Posted on 06/01/2008 7:20:40 AM PDT by Bobkk47
With senator Barack Obama poised this week to clinch his party's nomination for President, there are growing fears in some quarters that the Democratic party may not be choosing its strongest candidate to beat Republican John McCain.
Senator Hillary Clinton has been making that argument for weeks. Now some recent polls and analysis, looking particularly at vital battleground states and support among white voters, have bolstered her case - even as Obama looks certain to become the nominee.
Obama supporters reject this argument and point to his record of boosting Democratic voter turnout, especially among the young. But sceptics in the party, already nervous about nominating Obama after the furore over outspoken pastor Jeremiah Wright, are growing increasingly concerned. 'There is an element of buyer's remorse in some areas. The question is whether it gets really strong now or in September - or even after the election is over, if he loses,' said Steve Mitchell, head of political consultancy Mitchell Research.
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The Dems did this to themselves. My prediction, though, is that Obama will pick Hillary to be his running mate, and everything will be smiles.
I guess the “rabble” are starting to sober-up?
When the curtain closes on the voting booth, there will be many libs voting McCain.
Osama ran a good campaign. By spouting meaningless platitudes early and often, his real persona stayed below the radar of most Americans. This allowed him to build up enough of a lead that the DNC dared not oppose him due to the racial issues toward the end. Actually, in my opinion, a very good, albeit cynical, campaign for the nomination. For the general election, I don’t think so.
The dirty little secret of the Dems is that they dare not offend their African-American plantation constituency. They could leave the plantation...Dems couldn’t live with that.
I believe Hillary would defeat McCain in a landslide...look at the electoral map and the polls...with Barry/McCain it’s a real horse race.
And it’s all racist whitey’s fault.
Hillary is the much stronger candidate.
The good news is, if McCain wins, Susan Sarandon is moving out of the country! Libs always keep their word, right? It’s the evil conservatives who lie, right? She wouldn’t be giving us false hope would she?
Paging Alec Baldwin....
Disenfranchising Voters is Obama’s “Change You Can Believe In!”
As Ickes said, “19 Democrats just disenfranchised 600,000+ Voters”. Rules, and VOTERS matter little to the More-Equal-Than-You-Are Democrat pigs.
Even though I’m watching the end of the Clinton’s with a bit of glee, they DID get screwed here.
Gee....ya think?
Duh.
“The dirty little secret of the Dems is that they dare not offend their African-American plantation constituency. They could leave the plantation...Dems couldn’t live with that.”
It’s not so secret. I’ve heard it said many times that the Dems have accepted the probability of a loss in the presidential race. As you rightly point out, anything other than an Obama nomination would end up destroying the Democrat party. The Dems will be content with gaining a strangle hold on Congress.
“And it’s all racist whitey’s fault.”
Bush’s fault.
In rational universe, Obama couldn’t win.
In reality, team McCain has a mountain of ammo, but so far refuses to use it in the name of honor. Perhaps there is something clever about this— maybe they’re trying to keep a clean image to appeal to pissed off Clinton voters. Sucking up to Democrats has always been McCain’s modus operandi anyway.
I think the bottom line is that neither of them can win and Hillary will bow out only to return to the stage to say “I Told You So”.
"From each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs." ~~Karl Marx
"Barack Obama will require you to work. He is going to demand that you shed your cynicism. That you put down your divisions. That you come out of your isolation, that you move out of your comfort zones. That you push yourselves to be better. And that you engage. Barack will never allow you to go back to your lives as usual, uninvolved, uninformed." ~~Michelle Obama, 2008
She sounds just like Mao's wife Jiang Qing, leader of the 'gang of four'.
Never interrupt your opponents when they are making a mistake, the Dhimmis have convinced themselves that the American Electorate has swung massively “left” of Center, and that idea is what is leading to the Obamao’s Nomination.
I don’t believe Hillary will be the VP nominee, Michele Obamao is said to despise her, and she has went out of her way to sink Obamao long term...
With all due respect I’ll place the Guardian’s predicitons on U.S. politics on the same level as a U.S. paper’s predicitions on U.K. politics.
I’m actually starting to get scared of just how badly Obama is going to lose. I could be wrong but I think he’s going to lose massively. A third party candidate might jump in the game late, while Obama’s hopes go down the toilet. Hillary will live to see another day. She is one tough cockroach, that one. We are not seeing the end of the Clinton anything. Not as long as she’s breathing.
Not sure the beast would accept second banana....goes against the grain. Some dirty deal may be worked out but Im convinced Hildebeast can beat McCain...McCain might even help her win!
Id enjoy the RATS fighting if conservatives had a candidate.
If he picks her and wins he knows that he has four (or eight) years of sleeping with one eye open to look forward to.
The Democrats may actually prefer that.
They get Congress. They get a left-wing Republican as Pres, who they can bend to their will, and put the blame on for everything. They can pressure McCain to put Dem-friendly people in all the cabinet posts.
And then they get 4 years of getting their own way while blaming everything that goes wrong on a Republican administration
Yes, this is the only rational explanation for their refusal to unload on Barry.
I don’t think that’s going to happen. I don’t believe that she will settle for playing second fiddle, especially given the way this whole campaign has gone down. No, I believe that Hillary will set her sights on 2012 and will do whatever she can to undermine Obama from here on out.
Otherwise, I agree. The Dems did indeed do this to themselves. They’re morons. It doesn’t matter how many times you tell them that their biggest lefty-loon-liberal candidate can’t win a national election in the US, they keep trying and trying and trying.
Hillary was always by far their best option, but because she wasn’t quite wacko enough for them, they reject her and appear headed for yet another loss.
After sitting for a couple of hours watching the democrat party in division and fighting mode, I realized how awful any representative they pick would be for the nation at the present time.
We do not need to hire an untested academic who is still on training wheels - the Presidency is not a ‘learn as you go job’. He isn’t up for it.
The whole group of delegates were in way over the muddled heads except Ickes. At least he had some gumption.
“And then they get 4 years of getting their own way while blaming everything that goes wrong on a Republican administration”
And, the Dems can claim moral superiority in that they were the party that nominated a black man.
We all are enjoying operation chaos, but it seems the Dems have navigated their way to a no lose position. My brother is a hardcore Dem, and there are times I wish the Dems would win so he would just shut up about every problem in the world being caused by Republicans.
It’ll be interesting to see how Rev. Wright reacts to Obama quitting. Somehow I doubt he’ll be allowed to this mess behind. Unless Clinton has a change of heart this week and decides to drop out, there’s going to be a full court press all the way up to the convention, and Obama’s church is going to be a key component of her argument.
While Obama offers Hope, Hope is not a good thing.
Pandora opened the box and all the evil it contained escaped except Hope. Hope was not considered good by the ancients. It still isn’t a good thing. It is deceit with a smiling face.
Watching the angst among the liberals is GRAND....
They are tearing each others throats out, all in the name of “Affirmative Action”. That phrase was mentioned SEVERAL times yesterday.
From Uber nutjob website, MyDD:
“The Democratic Party just lost all moral authority by deciding, Soviet style, to allocate delegate votes according to Party power plays by the Obama campaign on the RBC. It should be an outrage to all Americans who believe in democracy for a primary election result to be overturned by party powerful.
This is the most divisive type of power play by the Obama camp, and Clinton supporters will not ever forget this. Driving the wedge ever deeper between the two factions of the Democratic party is a special talent of the sneering Obama campaign. It guarantees failure in November, and rightfully so.”
Its not a fear, its the absolute truth.
This bush league shrub couldn’t win a dog catcher contest anywhere other than in Illinois where the machine made him.. and now that machine can’t help him.
This guy is so out of his league, he makes the biggest losers of the democratics party in the last decades look like giants. McGovern, Mondale etc look great compared to this guy.
The democrats have shown they are completely ineffective.. their leadership are going to put the party knowingly behind the weaker candidate all because they are to afraid of angering a voting block.
Stock up on popcorn, I guarantee Fauxbama will have a complete meltdown in front of cameras as will his wife, I guarantee it.
On the Sunday Panel today Byron York says Barry quit his church because he is LOSING ALTITUDE! Especially among white women. He is WHEEZING to the finish line—says Juan.
I too am wondering if the Democrats are comfortable with the idea of ditching Hillary and relying on Obama alone. I think before this is all over Obama will be forced by the DNC to choose Hillary as his VP, and if that is the ticket it could produce a landslide victory for the Democrats come November.
BTW This is exactly why neither Huckabee nor Romney can be McCain's choice for Veep. Too much ammo for the opposition to use in the campaign.
That is exactly correct. The Dems did so this to themselves, in no small part by refusing to adequately vett the dark and extreme racist core of Obama, which has been steadily and increasingly revealed to the voting public.
When the Rev Wright thing came up, Obama never heard the harsh words over 20 years, he said. Yet he had Wright step down from his campaign for that very reason, BEFORE the tapes became public. Then, after Wright made the second outburst, which I think was a mutually agreed-upon setup to get Wright out of the picture, Obama denounced Wright, saying his loyalty “was to the church, not the man.”
Now he’s quit the church. He said staying a member would be damaging to his campaign for the presidency.
Member for 20 years. Married there. Kids baptized there. All attended church there for 20 years, sitting with (and participating in ? ) yelling and screaming and rocking in the pews like the rest of the congregation at the racist and hateful rantings of Wright.
But now? Never mind! That’s all behind him now, says the world’s biggest liar, Sen. Robert Wexler.
Obama has, for what he hoped would be to his political advantage, made himself into into a low-lifed hypocrite, abandoning the entire religious experience of him and his family for, perhaps, a few more votes.
He has no ideals, at least none that anybody can depend upon from one day to the next. He has done irreparable damage to his candidacy. This is the worst mistake he’s made so far, IMHO.
Many say it will never happen, but they forget that politics makes strange bedfellows. Anything goes in love, war, and politics.
Trust me, that’s what’s going to happen on the Dem side.
Maybe also on the GOP side, although I give more remote odds for that.
It's a shame McCain is so thoroughly uninspirational.
.."any more Revs show up he might have to leave the country"
No doubt about it. They’ve been sowing a lot of anger, hatred, and discontent, particularly in the last 10 years. Now, the house of lies and deceit that the DNC built is collapsing upon itself and these hyena-like supporters they’ve been churning out are starting to eat their own. And indeed, ain’t it grand?
I’ve been to a few Dem sites in the last day or two, you know, just to see the slow-motion trainwreck as it occurs. They try to put up a unified front on mixed boards, but on liberal-only boards, its like a friggin’ warzone between the Obama and Clinton camps. I can’t help but LMAO.
“their leadership are going to put the party knowingly behind the weaker candidate all because they are to afraid of angering a voting block.”
.....yep, and a 3rd rate bloc at that....the 2nd largest minority are now the Hispanics....the last number I saw showed blacks are 13% of the population....but to hear the MSM go on and on you’d think blacks were half the country....too much effort/time/money is spent worrying about blacks.
Fears grow that Obama can’t win....
the truth is the truth....
unless b. HUSSEIN has the piaps on the ticket with bj campaigning....when voters go into the voting booths....no matter what they say at exit polls....they will NOT pull that lever for b. HUSSEIN and juan maccain could become POTUS!!!
Neither can McLame. The worst candidates since Jimmah Carter.
“Paging ALec Baldwin”....
Why the little SOB is right here in the States,pity he didn’t go to France-would have raised the IQ of both countries.
As we get in to middle and late summer, we will be BOMBARDED by the media with the “Inevitability” of President Obama.
Then it will begin to become clear to the most partisan of Dems that even WILDLY fixing polls cannot cover the fact that Obama is going to LOSE in November.
They will freakin’ EXPLODE on each other in hate and vile when that happens...
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