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Posted on 06/01/2008 5:13:27 AM PDT by Clive
Just say it: Kyoto's a crock
Stephen Harper should call the environmental accord what it is -- a train wreck
Could Prime Minister Stephen Harper or Environment Minister John Baird please explain what they mean when they say Canada continues to be a participant in the Kyoto accord?
How can we be a participant when the PM has said we cannot do what Kyoto requires of us -- lower our greenhouse gas (GHG) emissions by an average of 6% below 1990 levels between now and 2012?
We're 29.1% above our Kyoto target. Achieving that target is the point of Kyoto.
So what, exactly, are we participating in?
Yes, the Liberals are hypocrites for ratifying Kyoto and then doing zilch to implement it.
Yes, Liberal Leader Stephane Dion supports a carbon tax he once opposed.
But the Conservatives have been no more coherent.
In opposition, they didn't complain the Liberals were doing too little to implement Kyoto, as they do now. They complained they were doing too much, consistent with Harper's views at the time that Kyoto was a socialist, money-sucking scheme.
Kyoto is a socialist, money-sucking scheme. Why don't the Conservatives just say it?
I know -- I hear it from Conservatives supporters all the time -- Harper has to pay lip service to Kyoto to win the next election.
Nonsense. First off, voters know when politicians are bulls...ting them. If the Conservatives think they're getting a boost from pretending to support Kyoto, they're not.
Worshipping at the altar
More important, with the Liberals, Bloc, NDP and Green parties, and most of the provinces, all insanely worshipping at the altar of Kyoto and ready to "green" tax us to death, is there not one mainstream party with the courage to denounce Kyoto for the train wreck it is?
Look at the thing. Why do you suppose the main instigators of Kyoto -- the United Kingdom, the European Union and the United Nations -- happened to pick 1990 as the base year for reducing GHG emissions?
It wasn't written in stone. Kyoto wasn't even agreed to until 1997 and didn't come into effect until 2005. The drafters could have picked any year as the base year.
They retroactively chose 1990 because that was just before the Soviet Union imploded, meaning the European Union was able to take advantage of the dramatic drop-off in GHG emissions of the former Soviet satellites which later became part of Europe, countries which dramatically cut their GHG emissions not by doing anything, but by suffering a recession.
Also by 1990, the U.K.'s "dash for gas" was well underway -- again, unrelated to Kyoto. But by replacing coal power with natural gas, the U.K. was also able to benefit from Kyoto without doing anything.
These countries, along with the UN, whose interest was transferring wealth from the First World to the Third, crafted the treaty right down to exempting the entire developing world, led by China and India, with one purpose in mind.
Not ratified
That was to damage the U.S. economy by putting it at a competitive disadvantage had the Americans been stupid enough to ratify Kyoto. But even with Al Gore as their vice-president, they weren't.
We were. We ratified it because a reckless Jean Chretien was looking for an environmental legacy.
Chretien's top political aide, Eddie Goldenberg, has since acknowledged the Liberals knew Canadians weren't ready for what Kyoto required when they ratified it in 2002.
Of course, the Liberals weren't ready either, the proof being what they did to implement Kyoto after they ratified it. Nothing.
Ironically, even with all the advantages the U.K. and EU handed themselves in Kyoto, many of their own citizens are now revolting against the usurious carbon and green taxes they're being asked to pay.
Kyoto's Clean Development Mechanism, under which developed countries fund environmental projects in developing ones, is rife with charges of corruption and profiteering.
Even if every one of the 37 member states in Kyoto (including us) required to reduce their GHG emissions (as opposed to the 143, which aren't) meet their emission targets (which they won't), the coal plants China and India alone are building will more than wipe out all the cuts Kyoto calls for.
And this is the deal the Conservatives say we need to be part of?
Why?
Are we nuts?
lorrie.goldstein@sunmedia.ca
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Oh no.
The author of the above piece is probably going to need round the clock, professional, protection from now until the day the earth doesn’t fry or freeze or whatever it’s supposed to do.
I suspect there’s already a stake with a pile of kindling heaped around its base just waiting for her.
Are we nuts?
Perhaps not, but the squirrels making the decisions surely must be.
Wow, the Canucks are starting to open their eyes to what their lib politicans have signed them up for.
This guy's making sense..............get rid of him.
Send him down to the US Senate. Lieberman’s carbon trade and tax bill is up on Monday.
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Common sense here ... Kyoto is garbage
Hey Freepers.
Kyoto's not a crock. And I've got a Nobel Prize, an award winning
Dorcumentary, and thousands of Hollywierd Loons who say I'm right.
So lay off!
Kyoto is worse than a crock. A crock holds water. Kyoto doesn’t.
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“Wow, the Canucks are starting to open their eyes to what their lib politicans have signed them up for.”
Hopefully US voters will wake up as well. I’d like to see the Dems catch some heat for blocking energy production.
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus
I have always wondered even if one buys into the anthropogenic global warming argument, why is it the (developed world) end users who are burdened with the accounting and paying of this green tax. Why wasn’t Kyoto drafted so that the producers of potential GHG pay the tax. There are far fewer producers than users. It would be so much easier to track. Economically, I know that there is no free lunch and that ultimately this tax would be paid by the end user, however, I suspect it was designed for the end user to pay because countries like Saudi Arabia, Nigeria, Mexico, Iran and Venezuela want a free rider. They are also too corrupt and environmentally negligent to ever agree to pay these taxes. Besides this would mean their own people would have to participate in paying the tax. Only the developed world is foolish enough to believe the science is perfectly understood and to take on such a burden for the rest of the world. Is this the “developed world’s burden?”
Thanks for the ping.
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