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Calif. court considers if doctors can withhold care based on beliefs
First Amendment Center ^ | 05.30.08 | The Associated Press

Posted on 05/31/2008 10:15:34 PM PDT by Tzimisce

SAN FRANCISCO — California's highest court considered this week whether doctors' religious beliefs give them the right to withhold medical treatment from lesbians and gay men, a group specifically protected under state anti-discrimination laws.

Taking up a case that has pitted the promise of religious liberty against the guarantee of equal access, the state Supreme Court heard oral arguments May 28 in a lawsuit brought by a woman who claims her Christian doctors refused to perform artificial insemination on her because of her sexual orientation.

(Excerpt) Read more at firstamendmentcenter.org ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: california; gayagenda; judeochristian; queerlybeloved; traditionalvalues
So what do you think of that?
1 posted on 05/31/2008 10:15:34 PM PDT by Tzimisce
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To: Tzimisce
What kind of person would want to have a medical procedure performed by a Doctor who was being forced by the government to act contrary to his religious beliefs ? IMHO this person does not want to be a parent , nor a patient , but rather a plaintiff .
2 posted on 05/31/2008 10:31:26 PM PDT by kbennkc (For those who have fought for it , freedom has a flavor the protected will never know)
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To: Tzimisce

It’s not like they are denying care that the gays need to be healthy.

If the gay couples want a baby let them make one the old fashioned way.


3 posted on 05/31/2008 10:34:04 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: kbennkc
"Christian doctors refused to perform artificial insemination on her because of her sexual orientation."

Whoa, that's a big difference from refusing "care". Artificial insemination is not medical care. No true Christian physician would withold necessary medical treatment to anyone based on perceived sinfulness because we are all sinners. On the other hand, no true Christian physician should ever use their God given talent to perpetuate or further sin.

4 posted on 05/31/2008 10:36:53 PM PDT by joebuck (Finitum non capax infinitum!)
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To: joebuck

Nailed it. Good for you, joebuck!


5 posted on 05/31/2008 10:38:37 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: Tzimisce
Laissez-faire in CA, or for that matter the USA? LOL. My wager is on “never say national healthcare” McCain 2011...
6 posted on 05/31/2008 10:40:31 PM PDT by endthematrix (Now that we use our corn for fuel, when do we eat coal for dinner?)
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To: Tzimisce
Taking up a case that has pitted the promise of religious liberty against the guarantee of equal access, the state Supreme Court heard oral arguments May 28 in a lawsuit brought by a woman who claims her Christian doctors refused to perform artificial insemination on her because of her sexual orientation.

It seems to me that the real issue is whether elective procedures are guaranteed. I wholeheartily support the idea that in emergency and primary care, when lives are at stake, there should be a requirement to treat any and all.

Here we have a case of an elective procedure in the form of artificial insemination. My conservative gut says that this should be a procedure a doctor can opt out of. The easiest answer is to simply mandate that artificial insemination be a medical specialty where all that are certified for the position are guaranteed to perform the procedure.

The cruel irony is if somehow a mandate was to be made resulting from this case a doctor will be required to assist in creating life for a woman, gay or not, and said woman has the right to terminate that life in the ninth month if she decides as such. Sickening.

7 posted on 05/31/2008 10:47:08 PM PDT by torchthemummy (W's Margin Of Victory In Florida 2000 - 537 / FL House Bill Number To Move Up Florida Primary - 537)
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To: Tzimisce

I believe the word we’re looking for is “slavery.”


8 posted on 05/31/2008 10:47:15 PM PDT by denydenydeny (Expel the priest and you don't inaugurate the age of reason, you get the witch doctor--Paul Johnson)
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To: Tzimisce

What do I think of that?

I think it’s crap.

The real question is whether the state can compel a medical professional to act against his own moral beliefs.


9 posted on 05/31/2008 10:55:09 PM PDT by Petronski (Scripture & Tradition must be accepted & honored w/equal sentiments of devotion & reverence. CCC 82)
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To: joebuck; onedoug
Not to the courts. There have been precedents on how it is a “right” to receive contraceptives.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Griswold_v._Connecticut

10 posted on 05/31/2008 11:10:15 PM PDT by endthematrix (Now that we use our corn for fuel, when do we eat coal for dinner?)
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To: Tzimisce

The headline is incredibly misleading. Artificial insemination is NOT medical care. It’s an optional, elective procedure and people can elect to have it done or not just as doctors and nurses can decide whether they want to do that or specalise it in.

Liberals think they have a right to everything but responsible for nothing.


11 posted on 05/31/2008 11:32:15 PM PDT by Tamar1973 (Catch the Korean Wave, one Bae Yong Joon film at a time!)
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To: Tzimisce

Care is what you need when ill or injured. These people want an elective proceedure. That is NOT care no matter what the headline says. [I was shocked by the headline and wondered how a doctor would want to deny care and predictably no doctor wants to deny care.]


12 posted on 05/31/2008 11:35:36 PM PDT by JLS
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To: Petronski
If this was a muslim Dr not wanting to go against their beliefs, there would be no quarrel with their belief..
13 posted on 05/31/2008 11:43:18 PM PDT by JoanneSD (illegals represented without taxation.. Americans taxed without representation)
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To: endthematrix

That is a misreading of Griswald. Griswald said citizens have a right to privacy with regard to reproductive decisions involving contraception. Thus, if someone wants a contraceptive and there is someone willing to sell them then the Govt. cannot prohibit the same. This is a far cry a right to contraceptive and there is no duty on the part of anyone to provide them. At least not in Griswald.


14 posted on 05/31/2008 11:44:05 PM PDT by joebuck (Finitum non capax infinitum!)
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To: joebuck

Tell that to PP and NOW...

“Emergency” contraceptives.


15 posted on 06/01/2008 12:26:33 AM PDT by endthematrix (Now that we use our corn for fuel, when do we eat coal for dinner?)
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To: Tzimisce
The California Supremes will rule again for the queerly beloved. If they have a constitutional right to get married, it follows they have a constitutional right to receive medical care. Religious objections? That's bigotry and besides its now quaint.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

16 posted on 06/01/2008 1:27:24 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Tzimisce

My view is that, at the rate we are devolving, it is only a matter of time before the poor start suing the rich for their right to the same lifestyle.


17 posted on 06/01/2008 2:18:56 AM PDT by NTHockey
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To: Tzimisce

They should provide Gays with free euthanasia, or sterlization, at camps set-up specially to provde them voluntary treatment, they could also get a free train-ride to these camps.


18 posted on 06/01/2008 5:18:19 AM PDT by gitmogrunt (............waiting for the backlash........)
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To: gitmogrunt

How about suing a lawyer because he refused to take a case — it’s the very same thing! If the courts ruled for the plaintiff in that case, the law would be changed overnight.


19 posted on 06/01/2008 7:00:09 AM PDT by JTR1888
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