Rejecting Obama's Radical Friends (Unbelievable!)

Time Magazine ^ | May 29, 2008 | Michael Kinsley

[2ndDivisionVet]

Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn, best known recently as friends of Barack Obama, disappeared in 1969 after two of their colleagues in the Weather Underground died while building a bomb. Ayers and Dohrn spent 11 years setting off bombs and putting out statements threatening violent revolution. They promised to kill innocent Americans and praised the lunatic murderer Charles Manson. In 1981 two policemen and a security guard were killed in the botched holdup of a Brinks truck. Fake IDs used to rent getaway cars in an earlier robbery had been traced to a store where Dohrn worked. A grand jury wanted her testimony. She refused. Said she didn't believe in grand juries. Spent seven months in jail, and then the matter was dropped. Other charges against Ayers and Dohrn were dropped because the evidence was tainted by the Nixon Administration's illegal wiretaps. Ayers put it well: "Guilty as hell, and free as a bird. It's a great country."

Years later, Ayers threw a fund-raising party for Obama. They sat together on the board of a community group. Is this association between Obama and these dangerous radicals a scandal? Or is the scandal digging up all this ancient history? Those have been the options in the debate. But the truth is a third option: Ayers and Dohrn are despicable, and yet making an issue of Obama's relationship with them is absurd.

In America we believe in redemption and even self-reinvention. And we don't usually require stagy Stalinesque recantations. But Dohrn and Ayers test the limits of that generosity. They remain spectacularly unrepentant, self-indulgent, unreflective--still bloated with a sense of entitlement, still smug with certainty. They are dead to irony. Dohrn declared her contempt for the judicial system but wanted into the bar association.

[2ndDivisionVet]

Where is the country I was born in? Can anyone tell me where it went?

[iowamark]

Other charges against Ayers and Dohrn were dropped because the evidence was tainted by the Nixon Administration's illegal wiretaps.

It wasn't Nixon who SNAFUed the investigation, it was the FBI agent in charge, Mark Felt, later known as Deep Throat. Felt would have gone to prison if not pardoned by President Reagan. Perhaps he should have.

[flowerplough]

Dohrn and Ayers - they are dead to irony, and should be simply dead.

[combat_boots]

yet making an issue of Obama's relationship with them is absurd

Absurd. That a man would relish associations with saboteurs, seditionists and murderers, and yet the same man sees himself President of the US.

Absurd. That a man barely into a US Senate career and with only enough votes to keep his job thnks he can see himself President of the US.

Absurd. That a man's long friendship with people who hate the very country he claims as his own sees himself President of the US.

Absurd. That a man would want to disassemble the US military, space and naval efforts and yet can see himself President of the US.

Absurd. That a man who turns from common public displays of patriotism sees himself President of the US.

Absurd. That the voting public can see Barack Hussein Muhammad Obama as President of the US.

[laconic]

I remember when Felt died and his family was demanding money for his role as “Deep Throat”. Does anyone have thirty pieces of silver to throw at them?

[Kakaze]

Ayers and Dohrn never posed any real threat to U.S. national security. Their asinine chatter about killing people and their anti-American sloganeering were as ineffective as their bombs. But they did real harm. Their victims were liberals:

Good Lord could Kinsely be any more self indulgent.

These guys wreak havok on any American, in their way and Kinsely feels singled out as a liberal...pathetic.

I think the real, obvious truth about Obama, is the comapany he keeps.

Racist, traitors, terrorist, anarchist and even the mob have not been denounced by Obama......but his family, he all but dis-owns a Grand Mother, who's ,crime, was being afraid of the wrong colored man at a bus stop.

For B. Hussein, its about power, Anti-American Power.

[Sherman Logan]

Some good points in the article.

If Obama's relationship with Ayers, however tangential, exposes Obama as a radical himself, or at least as a man with terrible judgment, he shares that radicalism or terrible judgment with a comically respectable list of Chicagoans and others--including Republicans and conservatives--who have embraced Ayers and Dohrn as good company, good citizens, even experts on children's issues.

[Joe Boucher]

” 1981 two policemen and a security guard were killed “
I find it hard to believe after all this time other cops haven’t taken up the cause to end these cop murderers laughing.

[the invisib1e hand]

But the truth is a third option: Ayers and Dohrn are despicable, and yet making an issue of Obama's relationship with them is absurd.

And this "option" is, of course, absurd. Audacious, even. Which is why it works so well in the Obama campaign, which seems to run on "audacity."

[Always Right]

In America we believe in redemption and even self-reinvention.

The are unrepentant terrorist! People are dead because of them. What have they done to redeem themselves? They still promote the same hate-filled anit-American commie politics today. Of course, so does Time.

[ishabibble]

>>If Obama’s relationship with Ayers, however tangential, exposes Obama as a radical himself, or at least as a man with terrible judgment, he shares that radicalism or terrible judgment with a comically respectable list of Chicagoans and others—<<

Time is just doing the heavy lifting for Barry, trying to take the sting out of this relationship. I think the picture of Ayers standing on a crumpled American flag will be everywhere come election time.

For some reason, Barry's relationship with the bisexual Ayers makes me very uncomfortable. Much more so than those two men who have come forward with their alleged stories. I don't know why, it just seems like Barry tries to cover this up more than anything else. He was supposedly speaking extemporaneously during the debate where he said he was eight yrs. old when Ayers committed his crimes. He didn't even have to think about the math, he had it down cold. It was too quick and too slick. I think Barry wants to hide Ayers in plain sight with articles like this one.

[lentulusgracchus]

What's really absurd is Kinsley's bald-faced assertion that we should pay Obama's obeisances to the Weather Underground no mind.

Why, because he says so? Good luck with that one!

[lentulusgracchus]

I think Barry wants to hide Ayers in plain sight with articles like this one.

DING! DING! DING!

No more calls, please, we have a winner!

[sportutegrl]

People with such strong, unrepentant, anti-American feelings shouldn’t be anywhere near the President.

[Randy Papadoo]

The fact that Michael Kinsley wrote the article means he and a lot of other Obama$$e$ are concerned about the Ayers/Dohrn connection.

[EverOnward]

bookmarked for reference

[jmaroneps37]

Hey ayes wasn’t convicted. He is now an English professor at some university. If barack curious george mcgovern thinks he is fooling us about ayes why doesn’t he float his name for VP? Yeah right!

[SumProVita]

“I think the real, obvious truth about Obama, is the comapany he keeps.”

So do I !

[Misschuck]

I am glad I read this thread. The article does downplay Ayers and Dorhn’s effect now. Sort of like they were young so don't worry about it now. But what about all the poison they have managed to spread to young minds? What about all he poison Obama has internalized from Rev Wright? They say “Birds of a feather, flock together.” Someone was right about no overt action, like setting off bombs. We will just get a complete step down in our military preparedness. Most Americans probably won't even pay attention. This is deadly considering how the world is now. The money would also be gone in an instance for more dem programs. Israel is being squeezed more and more and Obama is already surrounded by anti-semite advisors. Look at the bigger picture. It's scary.

[bimbo]

We aren't seeing the real Obama ...

He speaks so smoothly about unity, healing, change. Meanwhile, all his associates are America-hating, bomb-throwing anarchists, ... or Black liberation, white-hating racists, ... or Chicago mob criminals. Even his wife - his closest relationship - an educationally elite woman, displays the "angry-Black-victim-mentality" of a drug addicted welfare queen. I believe that a man keeps the company he is most comfortable with.

We aren't seeing the real Obama.

[Hiddigeigei]

Hey ayes wasn’t convicted. He is now an English professor at some university.

Ayers is a professor of education. He is considered a big shot in education and has considerable influence on the direction of American education. He’s probably done more damage in this role than when he was making bombs.

[boycott]

Obama’s friend is basically a Timothy McVeigh want-a-be.

This dirtbag shouldn’t be free. He should have been executed years ago. The world would be better for it.

[Grateful One]

In America we believe in redemption and even re-invention........

Except with Watergate and Richard Nixon!

[stockpirate]

For some reason the DOJ decided not to prosecute people like this and John F. Kerry, who was a member of another terrorist group the VVAW.

Read my about me page to learn more from the FBI files on John Kerry and the VVAW.

[PghBaldy]

The reason why it is not a MORAL issue to libs is explained away by the everyone likes them. John Wayne Gacy met Ros Carter. Must have been a good guy too /sarc

[Chode]

[popdonnelly]

The fact that Ayers is considered an expert in education tells you all you need to know concerning how we have let leftist ____s take over our educational system. The leftist professoriat wants to influence our kids through the educational system.

If their academic peers won’t ostracize these people, we certainly can.

[popdonnelly]

“Other charges against Ayers and Dohrn were dropped because the evidence was tainted by the Nixon Administration’s illegal wiretaps.”

Liberals have free license to re-write history. Kinsley probably feels it’s all Nixon’s fault.

[SandRat]

Great Caesar’s Ghost! Is Kinsley auditioning for job as Keith Overbites writer?

[Excellence]

See tagline. It’s from an ed blog.

[GenXFreedomFighter]

Brace for this, folks: If Obama wins the election, as improbable as it may be, Ayers will be sleeping in the Lincoln Bedroom. Ponder that one for a moment!

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

It’s difficult to imagine they are so blatantly antiAmerican!

See this :

Unholy Alliance: Radical Islam and the American Left

And a review:

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By	Kat Bakhu (Albuquerque, NM United States) - See all my reviews

This review is from: Unholy Alliance: Radical Islam and the American Left (Hardcover)

I had long wondered why people on the Left had the propensity to speak more positively about people who would slit their throats than they do about their own country, which affords them more freedom and opportunity than anywhere else. David Horowitz has answered that question thoroughly and convincingly in his Unholy Alliance. Where I felt bewildered and confused, I now feel crystal clear. Unholy Alliance is such a great book.

It begins with the leftist movements at the beginning of the 20th Century, and works its way up to the present day, exploring the anti-American attitude of these movements in detail. Horowitz shows that the enemies of the US back then are largely the same group today, operating under the same misperceptions, making the same mistakes, and pursuing the same impossible utopia.

Individual chapters are included on the Patriot Act (I was persuaded that it is a GOOD thing); the democratic flip-flop on Iraq once G.W. Bush implemented what they agreed with Clinton needed to be done; the driving components of the current anti-war movement; as well as chapters on individual personalities who are major spokespeople of the Left. Horowitz covers a lot of ground, and he covers it concisely and clearly. Unholy Alliance is richly informative without ever being boring or plodding.

This book is so illuminating that I simply cannot do justice to it here. I love people who reason so clearly that they help me get my own reasoning clear. Horowitz is just that type of person! In the terrain of mindless clichés (no-blood-for-oil, etc.), he is a breath of real fresh air.

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

There is hope in stopping Obama and his leftist Friends in seizing the White House:

Tuesday May Not End Democratic Fight

[Starstruck]

Kinsley was Olberman before Olberman was Olberman.

[Poincare]

Yes. The whole Obama thing could be posed as, “Do we want entire country to be run like Chicago?”

[browardchad]

it just seems like Barry tries to cover this up more than anything else

Ayers is a key player in the saga of Obama, and I have a hunch Obama knew him even before his Chicago days. Ayers and Dohrn lived in NYC all the while Obama was there, in the same Columbia area (except, in Dohrn's case, the seven months she spent in a Manhattan federal jail in '82). Ayers got his Ed.D. at Columbia Teachers College in '87, then returned to Chicago, two years after Obama coincidentally got a job there. Obama doesn't want to talk about his years at Columbia, hardly mentions it in his memoirs, refuses to release his transcript and "doesn't remember" any of his friends or classmates there. Interesting.

Ayers is a legend in his own mind though, and just as egomaniacal as Wright and Pfleger -- but he's kept a low profile the past few years, even as his name is bandied about the media. It's unusual for a motormouth like Ayers, so let's hope the temptation to blow his own horn gets to be too much for him.

[Poincare]

I bet you could find a correlation between Professor Ayers’ theories on the education of black children (left brain/right brain) and what Rev Wright expounded upon before the National Press Club. ...Chicago.

Ayers is worse than the article lets on. Just ask some of the women he mistreated in the 60’s.

[Sherman Logan]

Redemption doesn’t apply to conservatives.

Unless they become liberals.

[Poincare]

The fact that Michael Kinsley wrote the article means he and a lot of other Obama$$e$ are concerned about the Ayers/Dohrn connection.

Actually there are those on the old New Left of the 60's that hate Ayers and Dohrn for "stealing" SDS from them. Some of that comes through in Kinsley's writing. Ayers was a despicable clown and is a despicable clown.

[BOBTHENAILER]

Horowitz is a great author. Thanks for the Ping.

[ozzymandus]

All we need now is Alan Colmes screaming “Guilt by association!”, as he does every time anybody mentions one of Obama’s sleazy anti-American friends.

[Big Horn]

seditionists

That is the word I was looking for.
It best describes who we are dealing with here.

[Big Horn]

I remember when Felt died and his family was demanding money for his role as “Deep Throat”. Does anyone have thirty pieces of silver to throw at them?
I have 30 pieces of something else to throw at them.

[joebuck]

"yet making an issue of Obama's relationship with them is absurd."

Left wing extremists don't thorw fund raising parties for people who disagree with them.

[wita]

It still resides in the hearts and minds of millions of patriots, depending of course on when and where you were born.

[BIGLOOK]

Most of the home grown terrorists and violent dissenters walked on legal technicalities or pardons and commutations ala Carter and Clinton. That was the 'Blame Nixon' era.

Hillary ought to do well in Puerto Rico if the FALN vote comes through. Or maybe they'll go with Obama since he has credentials with the likes of Ayers and Dohrn and has stated he'll shut down Gitmo, releasing sworn enemies back into the arena. They may be repatriated....or maybe they'll choose to settle in Islamberg, NY. What fun that'll be.

If either of these miscreants is successful in capturing the presidency, we'll see 'Change' and .....ahh.....what was the other thing?

Of course we can all look forward to a crackdown on 2nd amendment types who have become disenchanted with the 'Peace, Love, Dope' or 'Hope and Change' crowd that is wooing America for it's vote, seeking the power of the presidency. A few breaking news stories of some poor backwoods separatist who broke the law by owning sawed off shotguns finally being brought to justice ought to do it. Shoot his dog, his kid and his wife, fine him $10,000 and declare justice done.

[SandRat]

If B.O. gets in we can look forward to a future that equals what is now Zimbabwe under Robert Mugabe. At last report inflation there was at 1,795,000%. What was the bread basket of Africa as Rhodesia is now the trash heap of Africa.

[PhilDragoo]

Michelle calls America downright mean, but hubby's comrades cheer Charles Manson--

[dixiechick2000]

That is one awesome post, Phil!

Thank you!

[SunkenCiv]

> Ayers and Dohrn are despicable

so is Michael Kinsley.

Thanks Ernest.