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Is it Possible that California Could Go for McCain?
May 30, 2008 | no dems

Posted on 05/30/2008 7:15:09 AM PDT by no dems

Is it possible that California could go for a Republican for the first time since 1988? One of the cable news networks reported last night that McCain had come within a few percentage points of B. Hussein Obama in CA.

What could make this happen?

#1. The referendum on the ballot that would reverse the State Supreme Court Ruling on same-sex marriage. This will bring Conservatives out in droves. (Hopefully out of their hatred for McCain they won’t vote for B. Hussein Obama.)

#2. The craziness that keeps going on in B. Hussein's church. I've got to believe that the majority of Californians are not crazy enough to align their politicl ideology with those nuts; the latest being Fr. Pfleger. Like most other Americans, the majority of Californians have got to realize that B. Hussein is the product of 20 years of indoctrination by preachers who hate White people.

#3. The fact that many Californians who would vote Democratic believe that B. Hussein is a closet Muslim who would be sympathetic to Islamo-Fascists; his autobiography indicates as much.
SIDE BAR: If, God forbid, there is another Terrorist Attack on our soil before November 4, Cindy McCain can start measuring for drapes in the White House.

#4. The large Hispanic vote in CA. There is a wide gulf between the Mexicans and the Blacks in America. They just don’t like or trust each other. The only thing that might offset this would be if Bill Richardson is on the ticket in the VEEP spot. And...

#5. There's a lot of ticked-off, Hillary-supporting, women out there who, if they just stay home, along with many men who feel that Hillary has been dissed by the media and the Obama Campaign, can give McCain a 5% point gain.

Hey, it could happen!


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: ca2008; california; hispanicvote; homosexualagenda; mccain; mccainsucks; noway; samesexmarriage
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1 posted on 05/30/2008 7:15:11 AM PDT by no dems
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To: no dems

He’s certainly enough of a liberal for Cali that’s for sure.


2 posted on 05/30/2008 7:16:54 AM PDT by unixfox (The 13th Amendment Abolished Slavery, The 16th Amendment Reinstated It !)
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To: no dems

possibly, California demographics have changed so much that anything should not be a surprise.


3 posted on 05/30/2008 7:17:24 AM PDT by television is just wrong
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To: no dems
Only if McCain turns out to be a much stronger campaigner than he appears to be at this point. That coupled with some McGovern-style gaffes (i.e., going to Hanoi and begging on his knees for the release of the POWs) might do it. But rather unlikely. The left coast is solid Ratland.
4 posted on 05/30/2008 7:17:41 AM PDT by chimera
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To: no dems

Not unless there is a serious mass deportation ...


5 posted on 05/30/2008 7:17:42 AM PDT by mgc1122
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To: no dems

6 posted on 05/30/2008 7:18:54 AM PDT by TonyInOhio ( Dedicated to the preservation of American Exceptionalism)
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To: no dems

Shhh! Don’t let the Dems hear this. They might decide to oust Obama in favor of Hillary.


7 posted on 05/30/2008 7:18:57 AM PDT by indylindy (I had almost forgotten that McCain is the nominee. Too bad I was reminded.)
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To: no dems
This will bring Conservatives out in droves. (Hopefully out of their hatred for McCain they won’t vote for B. Hussein Obama.)

Not sure I care.

8 posted on 05/30/2008 7:20:03 AM PDT by xjcsa (Has anyone seen my cornballer?)
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To: no dems

No


9 posted on 05/30/2008 7:20:23 AM PDT by devere
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To: no dems
McCain has an outside chance of taking California. If he did it would mean a McCain victory in November.

But...

I've got to believe that the majority of Californians are not crazy enough to align their political ideology with those nuts

I think you underestimate the level of dementia in this state. Too many people have smoked pot for too many years. They either are paying no attention to the Trinity Church story or actually think it is "cool"

The racist voters will come out strong for Obama as they have across America during the primaries. The Marxist voters (which includes many Hispanics) will come out strong for Obama.

10 posted on 05/30/2008 7:20:53 AM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: no dems

Mexifornia electing McCain’t? Fagetaboutit! The Messiah is too appealing to the fruits, nuts and tacos too.


11 posted on 05/30/2008 7:21:38 AM PDT by tflabo (Truth or tyranny)
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To: no dems

I don’t think it’s possible, but I am glad to pretend that it is, if that will prompt Obama to blow more of his wad in CA.


12 posted on 05/30/2008 7:22:07 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: no dems

Susan Sarandon vows move to Italy or Canada if McCain elected...

And the promised flight of anti-republicans begins for the new campaign season. I wonder if this one will actually leave, since all those who vowed to depart if Bush won decided living here under his presidency was better that leaving as they promised to do.


13 posted on 05/30/2008 7:22:15 AM PDT by GreyFriar ( 3rd Armored Division - Spearhead)
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To: no dems

Does the author know the difference between possibility vs. probability. For instance, it is possible I can win the lottery today, but is it probable.

This is why in Criminal Court cases you hear Probability vs. Possibility. Any thing is possible, but Probable I would say not.


14 posted on 05/30/2008 7:22:49 AM PDT by Sprite518
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To: no dems
McCain is going to get beat like a red haired step child in Kalifornia. They are in LOVE with Barack. The cities will turn out for him droves. I see you live in Texas. I lived in Kalifornia most of my adult life. They have turned on the Clinton's and now Barry is the savior. The rural areas will probably go McCain but any city bigger than 10,000 Barry will carry - except maybe Fresno.
15 posted on 05/30/2008 7:23:17 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Will this thread be jacked by a Mormon?)
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To: no dems

In a word, no.


16 posted on 05/30/2008 7:23:50 AM PDT by LiveFree99
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To: no dems
I think, barring any huge mistake by the Republicans, mccain will win in a landslide. The shine is already off Obama. So many young people who turned out in the primaries, won't in the general. And now that we've hear that Susan Sarandon will leave the country should McCain win...even Conservatives will turn up to vote McCain! All we need is Sean Penn to repeat that promise, and we're in the clear!!!! :)

I have to take back all I said about Rush.. his strategy was brilliant...just brilliant....

17 posted on 05/30/2008 7:23:53 AM PDT by Hildy
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To: no dems
>Comments anyone?

Yeah. Vanities suck.
Couldn't you find one news piece,
then comment on it?

18 posted on 05/30/2008 7:23:57 AM PDT by theFIRMbss
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To: mad_as_he$$

We seem to be on opposite sides of the spectrum on this. The Jewish vote in CA is big...McCain gives them a viable alternative. You wait and see.


19 posted on 05/30/2008 7:27:30 AM PDT by Hildy
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To: no dems
"Is it possible that California could go for a Republican for the first time since 1988?"

In a word, NO!

20 posted on 05/30/2008 7:27:55 AM PDT by penowa
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To: no dems
Is it Possible that California Could Go for McCain?

Nope.

21 posted on 05/30/2008 7:29:44 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: unixfox
He’s certainly enough of a liberal for Cali that’s for sure.

Many voters in my area don't think Feinstein, Boxer and Pelosi are liberal enough.

22 posted on 05/30/2008 7:31:14 AM PDT by null and void (Capitalism=>Audi, BMW, Porsche, Volkswagon. |WALL| Communism=>Trabi. Any questions?)
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To: null and void

Do you live in Tehran?


23 posted on 05/30/2008 7:33:37 AM PDT by Old Retired Army Guy (tHE)
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To: no dems

In order for McCain to take Kalifornia, he would have to spout his “Comprehensive Immigration Reform” crapola again, and at that point I wouldn’t care if he won or not.


24 posted on 05/30/2008 7:34:26 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (USAF, TAC, 12th AF, 366 TFW, 366 MG, 366 CRS, Mtn Home AFB, 1978-81)
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To: Old Retired Army Guy
Worse. San Fransisco Bat Bay Area.
25 posted on 05/30/2008 7:35:19 AM PDT by null and void (Capitalism=>Audi, BMW, Porsche, Volkswagon. |WALL| Communism=>Trabi. Any questions?)
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To: no dems
Is it Possible that California Could Go for McCain/Palin?

Is it? (Depending on how many of which constituency Obama alienates with his VP pick.)

26 posted on 05/30/2008 7:35:53 AM PDT by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: Hildy
Most Jews and citified Kalifornians will NEVER vote for anyone with a “R” behind their name no matter what their politics are.
27 posted on 05/30/2008 7:39:12 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Will this thread be jacked by a Mormon?)
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To: penowa

It’s possible. McCain vs. Obama certainly widens the playing field for both parties. My concern is that McCain won’t have enough money to really campaign in California and he might have to spend more than he would like in states like Georgia with large black populations. I think it is more likely that the electoral map from 2000 and 2004 stays about the same, but McCain gets a lot bigger share of the popular vote and picks off a few smaller states like New Hampshire.


28 posted on 05/30/2008 7:39:23 AM PDT by Dems_R_Losers (Another non-bitter Pennsylvanian)
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To: no dems

This is a joke, right?


29 posted on 05/30/2008 7:41:23 AM PDT by Psycho_Bunny
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To: no dems
Even if he could win, the elected state democrats who run the voting process and count the votes won't let it happen. The “get out the [fraud] vote” playbook will be in high gear, as will ballot box stuffing, and every other trick in the book that is used in Chicago, Philadelphia, and every other democrat hole in America.
30 posted on 05/30/2008 7:41:37 AM PDT by HwyChile
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To: no dems

Well, my father, a lifelong Democrat, is voting for McCain (at least Pop is consistant!). Mom usually goes along with him, so that is two ‘Hillary Dems’ in California for McCain.


31 posted on 05/30/2008 7:45:15 AM PDT by Michael.SF. ("They're not Americans. They're liberals! "-- Ann Coulter, May 15, 2008)
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To: Psycho_Bunny

Social conservatives who came out in droves in 2004 to vote on a ballot initiative, swung Ohio to Bush which turned out to be the state he needed to be reelected. I can definately see the same thing happening even in Califoria. In fact, lets try to get that issue on ballots across the U.S. McCain would win in a landslide.


32 posted on 05/30/2008 7:49:27 AM PDT by Russ (Repeal the 17th amendment)
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To: no dems

I think McCain has a shot. Hillary crushed Obama here.

Arnold won big in 2006. I think it depends on how big a joke Obama turns out to be.


33 posted on 05/30/2008 7:49:57 AM PDT by Retired Greyhound
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To: BenLurkin
I think you underestimate the level of dementia in this state.

Its good to talk with Californians just to make sure we outside the state have a good understanding of what goes on there.

I spent almost a month out there this spring and about nobody was paying attention.

That being said, McCain has an outside shot at winning CA. He also has a shot at winning PA too.

34 posted on 05/30/2008 7:52:29 AM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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To: no dems

Not a chance.

Look at the ‘04 results. Kerry won CA by 1.2 million votes.

600,000 votes was the margin he won LA county and 600,000 votes was the total margin combined he won the 5 largest bay area counties of San Francisco, Alameda, Santa Clara, Contra Costa, San Mateo counties.

Kerry took San Francisco county 220,000 to 40,000.

Just 6 counties need to go the same as ‘04 and McCain will be slaughtered here.

The bay area commies are entrenched, it doesn’t matter who the “D” is they’ll vote D for dumba**.


35 posted on 05/30/2008 7:52:29 AM PDT by A message
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To: HwyChile
Even if he could win, the elected state democrats who run the voting process and count the votes won't let it happen. The “get out the [fraud] vote” playbook will be in high gear, as will ballot box stuffing, and every other trick in the book that is used in Chicago, Philadelphia, and every other democrat hole in America.

Yep. It's how Sanchez "beat" B-1 Bob Dornan.

We knew there was massive fraud, had proof, and the 'pubiecan national party didn't lift a finger to challenge it.

Actually come to think of it, they did life one finger. For Dornan...

36 posted on 05/30/2008 7:54:11 AM PDT by null and void (Capitalism=>Audi, BMW, Porsche, Volkswagon. |WALL| Communism=>Trabi. Any questions?)
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To: Retired Greyhound
Arnold won big in 2006.

Well, he is a Kennedy, by marriage...

37 posted on 05/30/2008 7:55:52 AM PDT by null and void (Capitalism=>Audi, BMW, Porsche, Volkswagon. |WALL| Communism=>Trabi. Any questions?)
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To: null and void
Actually come to think of it, they did life one finger. For Dornan...

LOL! OUCH! (and true...)

38 posted on 05/30/2008 7:56:41 AM PDT by TADSLOS (The GOP death march to the gravesite is underway.)
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To: no dems

..if he loses CA by anything less than 10 points, I’ll eat my hat—with salsa...


39 posted on 05/30/2008 7:56:44 AM PDT by WalterSkinner ( In Memory of My Father--WWII Vet and Patriot 1926-2007)
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To: null and void

If ‘ol “B1” Bob hadn’t run for president and instead paid more attention to his own district he would have won. Too bad his ego got the better of him.


40 posted on 05/30/2008 7:59:15 AM PDT by LiveFree99
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To: LiveFree99

True. Even with the known and proven illegal alien votes, he lost by only a few hundred votes.


41 posted on 05/30/2008 8:02:26 AM PDT by null and void (Capitalism=>Audi, BMW, Porsche, Volkswagon. |WALL| Communism=>Trabi. Any questions?)
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To: devere

It COULD be another Reagan/Mondale blow out. Maybe.


42 posted on 05/30/2008 8:06:46 AM PDT by BunnySlippers (Buy a Mac ...)
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To: Dems_R_Losers
Even if McCain had a chance in CA which I don't believe he does, he will not have the $ to contest it. You're right about that. He'll be outspent everywhere to the point that many sheeple will only see his name when they get a ballot. I really don't think it would make any difference who the Democrats nominate, Obama, Hillary, or someone else, they are headed for a blowout.

McCain may turn NH red (while losing everything down ballot,) but I think there will be a number of former red states from the past 2 elections turning blue. I don't expect McCain to do anywhere near as well as Dole did.

43 posted on 05/30/2008 8:07:18 AM PDT by penowa
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To: null and void
"Even with the known and proven illegal alien votes, he [Dornan] lost by only a few hundred votes."

Yes, but the Republicans wanted Dornan gone almost as bad as the Democrats did, so nobody cared how he was beaten, as long as he was. Had control of the House turned on his election, then the Republicans and Newt would have made certain only legal votes counted, but they had seats to spare back then and saw an opportunity to get rid of one of those conservative types who embarrass them.

44 posted on 05/30/2008 8:17:25 AM PDT by penowa
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To: no dems
California? Its nearly as left-wing as Massachusetts. A rock-solid conservative has no hope of carrying the state in a good year. John McCain has none against Obama. That's the long and short of it. And if he's a realist, he will write it off.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

45 posted on 05/30/2008 9:01:12 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: theFIRMbss
Yeah. Vanities suck.

Vanities that are well-written and decently thought out are fine. This one falls into that category, in my opinion.

If you don't like it, don't post on it.
46 posted on 05/30/2008 9:06:01 AM PDT by Antoninus (John 6:54)
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To: no dems; oldglory; MinuteGal; gonzo; mcmuffin; sheikdetailfeather; seekthetruth; SE Mom; ...

My take:

Because of Operation Chaos, McCainiac will win in a land-slide.

Our job #1 will be to convince as many people as possible that they must also vote for their local/state Republican candidate who is running for the House or Senate seat in November.

We must convince them that they will be making a major mistake if they vote for the “RAT candidate (even if he seems/is more conservative than the Republican candidate), for this reason: McCain will not be able to come through on all the promises they like that he has made to them if the ‘RATS have a large enough majority in Congress to block everything he wants to do. We must keep ‘RATS from having enough votes to overturn his vetos.

If we can increase our numbers in Congress on McCain’’s coat-tails, we (conservatives) will be in a much better position to exert our influence to stop him from advancing the parts of his agenda we hate.

I cannot overstate the importance of our “Job # 1”, enough, but we should hold back until we get closer to the election (when the polls show McCain’s big lead) before we go into full-court-press in implementing it.


47 posted on 05/30/2008 10:10:16 AM PDT by Matchett-PI (Driving an Operation Chaos Hybrid that burns both gas AND rubber.)
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To: Retired Greyhound

” I think it depends on how big a joke Obama turns out to be.”

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Obama is a very big joke indeed! He may actually be a bigger joke than both Clintons and AlGore rolled up together. I never expected to see anything remotely resembling this clown running as a serious candidate for president.


48 posted on 05/30/2008 10:23:53 AM PDT by RipSawyer (Does anyone still believe this is a free country?)
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To: penowa
Bingo.

The money quote?

...an opportunity to get rid of one of those conservative types who embarrass them.

49 posted on 05/30/2008 10:28:17 AM PDT by null and void (Capitalism=>Audi, BMW, Porsche, Volkswagon. |WALL| Communism=>Trabi. Any questions?)
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To: no dems

how can #2 & #3 both be true? if they’re upset about his church why would they think he’s a muslim? they contradict each other


50 posted on 05/30/2008 11:24:25 AM PDT by houston1
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