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School 'Moment of Silence' ban extended in Ill.
Att.Net US News ^ | 5/29/08 | MIKE ROBINSON

Posted on 05/29/2008 7:29:53 PM PDT by rawhide

CHICAGO (AP) - A federal judge on Thursday barred school districts statewide from holding the daily moment of silence suitable for prayer that is required under state law.

U.S. District Judge Robert W. Gettleman said he had given school districts time to object to his March 28 preliminary injunction on enforcement of the moment of silence law but received no objections.

He therefore extended to the entire state the preliminary injunction originally designed to apply only to suburban Buffalo Grove District 214.

The law passed by the Illinois General Assembly says every school district in the state must hold a nonreligious moment of silence suitable for prayer or contemplating the day's activities at the start of the day.

Talk radio host Rob Sherman, an outspoken atheist whose daughter, Dawn, attends Buffalo Grove High School, sued to stop enforcement.

He expressed satisfaction after Gettleman issued his order.

"It's good, it's what I wanted," Sherman said. He said the law was designed to unconstitutionally "proselytize Christianity to a captive audience" of school children.

The preliminary injunction issued by Gettleman in March had applied not only to District 214 but to the Illinois State Board of Education.

Attorneys said that could be interpreted to mean that moments of silence already were barred statewide.

But the state board had maintained it had no authority to enforce such an injunction, leaving it unclear as to how the measure applied.

Legislation in response to the lawsuit has stalled.

Sherman said Thursday he would work with "friendly legislators" to reverse the law.


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: 1stamendment; atheism; atheist; churchandstate; education; firstamendment; judicialactivism; moment; momentofsilence; prayer; silence

1 posted on 05/29/2008 7:29:54 PM PDT by rawhide
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To: rawhide

Gettleman, Robert William
Born 1943 in Atlantic City, NJ

Federal Judicial Service:
Judge, U. S. District Court, Northern District of Illinois
Nominated by William J. Clinton on August 16, 1994, to a seat vacated by John F. Grady; Confirmed by the Senate on October 7, 1994, and received commission on October 11, 1994.

Education:
Boston University, B.S./B.A., 1965

Northwestern University School of Law, J.D., 1968

Professional Career:
Staff law clerk, U.S. Court of Appeals, 7th Circuit, 1968
Law clerk, Hon. Latham Castle, U.S. Court of Appeals, 7th Circuit, 1968-1969
Law clerk, Hon. Luther Swygert, U.S. Court of Appeals, 7th Circuit, 1970
Private practice, Chicago, Illinois, 1970-1994

Race or Ethnicity: White

Gender: Male


2 posted on 05/29/2008 7:33:07 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE toll-free tip hotline 1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRget!!!)
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To: NormsRevenge

there’s your legacy, Mr. Clinton, and it stinks.


3 posted on 05/29/2008 7:34:40 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (The road to hell is paved with euphemisms.)
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To: rawhide
So, any time you hear silence, someone is actually trying to "proselytize Christianity to a captive audience"?

Does this mean it's illegal to play John Cage's song 4'33"?

4 posted on 05/29/2008 7:35:18 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Et si omnes ego non)
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To: rawhide

Another anti-religion leftist liberal. A Clinton product of their sweeping attempt at absolute power from the bench. Again, the judiciary makes a sweeping decision that the voters DELIBERATELY do not get a chance to vote on.

The liberal modus operandi...


5 posted on 05/29/2008 7:35:51 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: rawhide
Take the radio show host, and the judge, and drop them 600 miles apart in the Alaskan Wilderness.

It's awful quiet...silent...up there. Perhaps by the time they both get out (if they do) they will have been prosylitized to Christianity.

If they are...they will drop the suite and vacate it. If they are not, it will prove their case a sham...with the same results.

6 posted on 05/29/2008 7:41:37 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: rawhide; traviskicks

They are banning a school wide moment of silence?

WTH is wrong with silence?

We need a few more mins. of silence in our day, if you ask me.


7 posted on 05/29/2008 7:43:53 PM PDT by fanfan ("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
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To: taraytarah

SILENT PING


8 posted on 05/29/2008 7:45:40 PM PDT by kingattax (99 % of liberals give the rest a bad name)
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To: Jeff Head

Our country is slowing falling into the hands of our enemies and in God’s anger he is allowing it. When Christians can’t pray anymore not even in silence all the while the MUSLIMS here can erect prayer towers and in Dearborn have prayer during their football games....WHAT’S WRONG WITH THIS PICTURE I ask you?!! I’m afraid we are losing our precious FREEDOMS and rights our forefathers had fought and died for. Now the muslims and liberals are pissing on their graves! IF we don’t take a stand NOW our country and our future generation is SCREWED!


9 posted on 05/29/2008 7:48:38 PM PDT by RoseofTexas
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To: RoseofTexas

We may be called upon, or our children or their children, to fight and die for those freedoms once again. Many hero volunteers already are fighting and dieing in foregin lands.


10 posted on 05/29/2008 7:50:21 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: RoseofTexas

Thank you for posting that Rose.

You said it better than I could.


11 posted on 05/29/2008 7:51:36 PM PDT by fanfan ("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
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To: fanfan

“They are banning a school wide moment of silence?”

It’s only OK if you have a day of silence for the homo’s dontcha know.


12 posted on 05/29/2008 7:56:30 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Election '08, the year McCain defined the word "dilemma")
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To: rawhide

I think that demanding someone sometime somewhere stop and be silent is an infringement on their personal rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

I am a freeman and will bow to no one, the government only passes laws like this because they can, no homage can be demanded from free people if they are truly free, slavery was abolished in America for everyone.


13 posted on 05/29/2008 8:06:45 PM PDT by DoingTheFrenchMistake
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To: Jeff Head; kingattax

Rob Sherman will someday be praying for Christians to help his sorry butt when he truly experiences forced religion.


14 posted on 05/29/2008 8:08:54 PM PDT by taraytarah
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To: rawhide

I’d love to hear this guy’s rationale behind his decision.


15 posted on 05/29/2008 8:23:40 PM PDT by wastedyears (Like a bat outta Hell.)
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To: Jeff Head

I prefer my generation to pick up our collective butts and do it. That would be 20-25 or 26. Plus we have an incredibly large source of vets for info.


16 posted on 05/29/2008 8:25:32 PM PDT by wastedyears (Like a bat outta Hell.)
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Legislating from the bench

17 posted on 05/29/2008 8:54:22 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham
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To: rawhide

Easy solution.....FREEZE

Brought to millions of students compliments of Verskyson, I’lltel and Spritzer...


18 posted on 05/29/2008 8:54:39 PM PDT by billmor (The American Voter--the Sleeping Tiger. Kicked in the back end.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

“Does this mean it’s illegal to play John Cage’s song 4’33”?”

It’s legal if you use oranges.
Breyer Rabbit


19 posted on 05/29/2008 9:04:25 PM PDT by billmor (The American Voter--the Sleeping Tiger. Kicked in the back end.)
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To: rawhide

“Congress shall make no law establishing silence.”

That’s in the Bill of Rights, isn’t it?


20 posted on 05/29/2008 9:13:08 PM PDT by Tex Pete (Obama for Change: from our pockets, our piggy banks, and our couch cushions!)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

So now will they be required to have a moment of noise on that day?


21 posted on 05/29/2008 9:16:10 PM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (The man who said "there's no such thing as a stupid question" has never talked to Helen Thomas.)
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To: NormsRevenge
Nominated by William J. Clinton on August 16, 1994, to a seat vacated by

A good reminder for those who refuse to vote for McCain because he's not a "perfect" conservative. Do you really want to see hundreds of new such appointments by President and Mrs. Obama?

22 posted on 05/29/2008 9:21:18 PM PDT by montag813
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To: holdonnow

ping


23 posted on 05/30/2008 5:06:39 AM PDT by TornadoAlley3 (Everytime McCain reaches out to conservatives, conservatives get poked in the eye.)
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To: rawhide

I’ve got a serious question related to this I hope someone can answer. Does this state also ban the “Day of Silence”?


24 posted on 05/30/2008 7:55:48 AM PDT by Senior Chief (Here I am, right where I left myself.)
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To: rawhide
Liberals always complain how others impose their values upon them. They have no compunction about imposing their values upon the rest of society.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

25 posted on 05/30/2008 9:58:52 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: rawhide

What part of “or the free exercise therof” don’t those morons get?


26 posted on 05/30/2008 3:38:18 PM PDT by Awestruck (All the usual suspects)
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To: Senior Chief

“I’ve got a serious question related to this I hope someone can answer. Does this state also ban the “Day of Silence”?”

Of course not. That’s different. You wouldn’t understand.


27 posted on 05/30/2008 4:43:12 PM PDT by rogator
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To: Awestruck
"What part of “or the free exercise therof” don’t those morons get?"

"Any law on the books is only as good as anyone's willingness to enforce it." - Rush Limbaugh

28 posted on 06/01/2008 2:02:56 PM PDT by oprahstheantichrist (Stop calling them "liberals," they're Bolsheviks!)
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To: oprahstheantichrist

What part of “or the free exercise therof” don’t those morons get?”
“Any law on the books is only as good as anyone’s willingness to enforce it.” - Rush Limbaugh

If that doesn’t say it all, I don’t know what does..


29 posted on 06/01/2008 4:45:51 PM PDT by Awestruck (All the usual suspects)
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To: Awestruck

Yep. This jerk lives three blocks from me, and my youngest will be attending the same school next year as his little “Madelyn Murray” protege.

I’m attempting to stir up a movement for a bunch of T-shirts that read “God Bless Buffalo Grove High School.” Can you imagine if fifty kids all showed up in them on one day?


30 posted on 06/01/2008 5:22:28 PM PDT by oprahstheantichrist (Stop calling them "liberals," they're Bolsheviks!)
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To: oprahstheantichrist

well i’m so sorry that your youngest has to attend public school.. and this one especially... sending prayers your way!


31 posted on 06/01/2008 9:05:20 PM PDT by Awestruck (All the usual suspects)
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