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Home sales post unexpected April increase
Yahoo News ^ | May 27, 2008 | Martin Crutsinger

Posted on 05/27/2008 7:24:24 AM PDT by DaveLoneRanger

Sales of new homes rose in April for the first time in six months although the unexpected increase still left activity near the lowest level in 17 years.

The Commerce Department reported Tuesday that sales of new homes rose 3.3 percent in April to a seasonally adjusted annual rate of 526,000 units.

But the government revised March activity lower to show an even bigger drop of 11 percent to an annual rate of 509,000, which was the weakest pace for sales since April 1991. Economists believe that new home sales will remain weak for some time as the housing industry struggles with falling prices and rising mortgage foreclosures, which are dumping even more homes on an already glutted market.

The Commerce report showed that the median price of a new home sold in April dropped to $246,100 in April, down 4.2 percent from April 2007.

A separate report showed home prices falling during the first three months of this year at the sharpest rate in two decades. The Standard & Poor's/Case-Shiller index fell 14.1 percent in the first quarter compared with a year earlier, the biggest year-over-year decline since the index began in 1988.

The Commerce report on new home sales showed the April rebound was led by a huge 41.7 percent surge in sales in the Northeast. Sales were up 8.3 percent in the West and 5.8 percent in the Midwest. The only region which saw a decline in sales in April was the South, where sales fell by 2.4 percent.


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1 posted on 05/27/2008 7:24:25 AM PDT by DaveLoneRanger
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To: DaveLoneRanger

And where are most of the conservatives in this country? Oh yeah, the “south”, where we (for the most part) save instead of spend. We’ll all be sitting pretty when the !@#$ finally hits the fan and everyone will be screaming at us for using our oil to avoid financial ruin. It’s going to be beautiful.


2 posted on 05/27/2008 7:29:33 AM PDT by TheZMan (Bitter backwoods east Texan Christian gun clinger with the AC at 72 degrees.)
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To: DaveLoneRanger

I wonder if an editor can write a headline about economic statistics that does not include the word “unexpected” when the news is positive? It seems to be a tic that they have, or a poker tell of their inherent anti-Bush admin ideology.


3 posted on 05/27/2008 7:29:34 AM PDT by maica (Peace is the Aftermath of Victory)
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To: DaveLoneRanger

So, we’re NOT doomed? ;)


4 posted on 05/27/2008 7:33:57 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

I don’t know what I could have said to give you THAT idea!


5 posted on 05/27/2008 7:35:03 AM PDT by DaveLoneRanger (Gun-free zones aren't. Visit ConcealedCampus.com for more)
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To: DaveLoneRanger

I’d say that outside of Florida and possibly the Atlanta metro, the southeast didn’t have the huge drop in sales that other regions had, and it’s been more of a slow decline that is still ongoing. But, month over month declining sales, in the spring-summer selling season, is not a good sign, no matter how it’s presented. It’s expected, not unexpected, for sales to increase from March to April. People choose to put their homes on the market during this time frame, because it’s historically been the best time to do so.


6 posted on 05/27/2008 7:36:55 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: DaveLoneRanger
What a total bunch of crap this is. People do not buy homes in the winter. Sales always drop before Thanksgiving and pick back up in the Spring.

Gloom and doom, the Sky is Falling.

7 posted on 05/27/2008 7:38:30 AM PDT by Dustbunny (Freedom prospers when religion is vibrant and the rule of law under God is acknowledged. The Gipper)
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To: DaveLoneRanger

Home prices are dropping, and builders and lenders are getting desperate. So shoppers are out looking for bargains. The market will right itself eventually.


8 posted on 05/27/2008 7:38:42 AM PDT by popdonnelly (Concerned about the price of arugula)
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To: TheZMan
The Commerce report on new home sales showed the April rebound was led by a huge 41.7 percent surge in sales in the Northeast. Sales were up 8.3 percent in the West and 5.8 percent in the Midwest. The only region which saw a decline in sales in April was the South, where sales fell by 2.4 percent."

I live in NJ and these numbers support what i have been seeing in the community i live in. For the first time in 2 years the developer (Lennar) is gain building spec homes and they are selling very well, albeit with discounts. At the peak (for the buyer, not the seller), the discount was in the area of 15%, today they are discounting about 7%. Despite what this story tries to do as far as minimizing it's importance by saying last months figures were revised downward, it really doesn't matter because the trend is what is important and not last months news. As soon as people realize, as seems to be happening now, that to sell their homes so they may buy a new one, they must get to a price a buyer is willing to pay, the sooner the housing sector will first stabilize and then expand.

9 posted on 05/27/2008 7:38:56 AM PDT by lexusppd
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To: DaveLoneRanger

Housing market push-ups. Up, down, up, down...........


10 posted on 05/27/2008 7:46:27 AM PDT by Rebelbase (McCain: The Third Bush Term ?)
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To: popdonnelly
builders and lenders are getting desperate

Unless you're talking about in-house lending with the large builders, you're not going to find an aggressive deal on a mortgage. Rates are good, historically speaking, but underwriting standards have been tightened considerably. If a buyer has good, solid, verifiable income, a credit score above 720 and a decent down payment, they're good to go. If they don't, they're going to have to really work to find financing, and they won't be getting such a good interest rate.

11 posted on 05/27/2008 7:49:31 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: RegulatorCountry

Forbes has Oklahoma listed as one of the top states that is recession proof right now. Our home prices rose 1-2% a year over the past 10 years so homes are still affordable in OK and in the city I live home sales are not that far off from past years.

When home prices rose in some areas like FL to such high levels, sooner or later they were going to fall. Cannot believe how much people paid for such small homes in parts of FL. Not worth the money.


12 posted on 05/27/2008 8:33:35 AM PDT by PhiKapMom ( Broken Glass Republican -- http://democratsforsale.blogspot.com/ -- JUST SAY NO to OBAMA)
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To: RegulatorCountry

I think it’s year-to-year numbers they are presenting, not month-to-month.


13 posted on 05/27/2008 8:57:13 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: DaveLoneRanger

It shouldn’t be unexpected at all. Prices have plunged and interest rates are still at historic lows.

It is a great time to buy a house. I’m not so sure it’s a great time to build — I’m betting every variety of building supply has gone up. To build a decent home probably costs 125 - 150 a square foot in the midwest.


14 posted on 05/27/2008 9:15:36 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain -- Those denying the War was Necessary Do NOT Support the Troops!)
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To: RegulatorCountry

I’d say you’re correct. A lot of people list their homes this time of year because the school year is ending. They already planned to move but wanted to wait until their kids finished the current school year.

BTW, based purely on my anecdotal observations and not any stats, the Houston market also seems to have escaped the big drop.

MM (on extended sabbatical to Texas)


15 posted on 05/27/2008 9:23:25 AM PDT by MississippiMan
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To: RegulatorCountry

With a 620, no derogatory credit items in the last 1-2 years, and solid income, you can still get a decent rate on an FHA loan. In fact, a bit better than conventional at the moment.


16 posted on 05/27/2008 10:38:23 AM PDT by RockinRight (Supreme Court Justice Fred Thompson. The next best place for Fred.)
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To: DaveLoneRanger

There goes the MSM “talking up” the economy once again. No mention of the 42% year-over-year decline, which is terrible. If our paychecks went up 1.7% from March but was down 42% from last April, we would be screaming bloody murder.

The fact is,house sales for April 2008 were down 42% year-over-year and the 2nd worse April sales since 1991. How anybody can see that as good news is beyond me.

That sales were up a tad from March strikes me as nothing but normal seasonal behavior. April sales are almost always up from March. I’m sure there will be a parade of posts that the “bottom is in”. Right, after a 42% decline year over year.

I’m sure most Realtors and RE brokers understand the full effect of a 42% year-over-year decline in sales and I’m sure they aren’t calling that good news.


17 posted on 05/27/2008 10:41:35 AM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free
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To: DaveLoneRanger
You forgot the obligatory "It's All Bush's Fault"
18 posted on 05/27/2008 12:45:23 PM PDT by HOYA97 (Hoya Saxa = What Rocks)
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To: TheZMan
Oh yeah, the “south”, where we (for the most part) save instead of spend.

Bull. According to an A.G. Edwards report, the five states with the highest savings rates are New Jersey, Connecticut, Minnesota, New Hampshire and Massachusetts. The five states with the lowest savings rates are Mississppi, Louisiana, Arkansas, Oklahoma and Alabama.

source

19 posted on 05/27/2008 12:57:33 PM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: DaveLoneRanger

We bought two in our family in April.


20 posted on 05/27/2008 12:59:03 PM PDT by Hoodlum91 (I support global warming.)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

“There you go again Freedom...” This time I think I’ll just say good luck in your house hunting....and remember In order to have a rising market, you start with a bottom! I know you’re looking at existing homes, and this news was about new homes. But to be honest, I wouldn’t wait 5 years for the bottom in existing homes either!


21 posted on 05/27/2008 1:24:25 PM PDT by CRBDeuce (an armed society is a polite society)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep; TheZMan
According to an A.G. Edwards report, the five states with the highest savings rates are New Jersey...

The "Nest Egg Index" you linked has little to do with savings and is mostly about investments.

The "Personal Savings Rate" which deal strictly with savings has been running in the negatives since 2005.

22 posted on 05/27/2008 1:26:01 PM PDT by Between the Lines (I am very cognizant of my fallibility, sinfulness, and other limitations.)
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To: CRBDeuce

I can’t wait 5 years for a house. Not only do I expect the bottom come in within the next 2 years, but I expect mortgage rates to be in the double-digits in 5 years.

Bernanke is trying to inflate like heck. We are seeing it in commodities (along with a speculative bubble brought on by another round of almost free borrowing).

I expect inflation to kick in hard and the FED will have to really jack up rates. What good would it do for me to wait 5 years and have to pay 10.5% on a mortgage. I’ll be buying within 2 years.

If the other very possible scenario occurs — a decade of asset deflation ala Japan — then I will have guessed wrong on the mortgage interest rates, but at least I will have bought my asset (house) at a lower rate than today.

What I don’t expect is “business as usual”. I don’t expect to see a decade of low inflation, modest interest rates, modest increases in asset prices. I think we are heading to another round of 70s style inflation. I am going to want to be in a house with a 6% loan before that happens.

FWIW, if I find a good deal on a house this winter, I’ll buy. If not, then the year after.


23 posted on 05/27/2008 2:15:23 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

They’re being bought up by illegals, getting their loans from Bank of America.....


24 posted on 05/27/2008 2:44:27 PM PDT by sunny48
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To: CRBDeuce
This is why I am so negative on seeing a normal recovery in homes regarding both sales volume and selling prices. I am not financially trained, but when I look at curves on a graph like this, I know that the area above the curve generally has to eventually balance with the area beneath the curve. You have this MASSIVE run-up in sales volume that completely blows away historic volumes. But it is not based on, say, us being given a new nation with pristine coastline to give away to new home owners. So you know that the sales volume of new homes has to plunge and remain depressed for a good long time in order to balance that huge volume from 1996 to 2006. That is the way I read this chart. The larger and longer the record sales success was, the longer and lower the depressed sales volumes must be to balance that. People who believe otherwise or who believe this correction will follow historic patterns simply have no clue how dramatic this housing bubble was and how dramatic the flip side will be before a recovery is possible.


25 posted on 05/27/2008 5:21:06 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free
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To: CRBDeuce

Sorry, I forgot the link:

http://bespokeinvest.typepad.com/bespoke/2008/05/historical-new.html


26 posted on 05/27/2008 5:21:44 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free
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To: DaveLoneRanger
Sales of new homes rose in April for the first time in six months although the unexpected increase still left activity near the lowest level in 17 years.

If government took as much time to get their fingers into taking care of the slump in housing as they are taking in building a border fence, the market would take care of it in no time on it's own.

27 posted on 05/27/2008 5:54:07 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: DaveLoneRanger

We recently put our home on the market, $409,000. We hope it sells sooner than later, but we are having some doubts.


28 posted on 05/27/2008 6:05:31 PM PDT by Santa Fe_Conservative (The RINOs think that they have won but we shall see who has the last laugh in '08...)
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To: Santa Fe_Conservative

Santa Fe Conservative:

I just put my home on the market, too, due to a relocation. I am in Maryland and I had to list much lower than I bought and still couldn’t get anyone interested. Our house is uncluttered, clean, grass kept up, etc. We are in Maryland and are moving to Texas. We have seen no houses sell in our area for a long time.


29 posted on 05/27/2008 6:28:10 PM PDT by Shire
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To: DaveLoneRanger
If you watched ABC News this evening with Charles Gibson they had a very negative report on home valuations declining. Of course to skew the numbers they use valuations on homes in areas like CA, NV, FL, etc., where there have been wild and unsustainable increases in recent years. These numbers help immensely in putting the most negative light on the data, which helps the liberal MSM blame Bush and the pubbies.
30 posted on 05/27/2008 6:43:47 PM PDT by BluH2o
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To: DaveLoneRanger

This report only shows signed contracts, but many of these
contracts do not get financed!


31 posted on 05/27/2008 10:03:16 PM PDT by upcountryhorseman (An old fashioned conservative)
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To: DaveLoneRanger; AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; ...
Economists believe that new home sales will remain weak for some time as the housing industry struggles with falling prices and rising mortgage foreclosures, which are dumping even more homes on an already glutted market.
Of course, interest rates fell again, which means lots of foreclosures are actually being refinanced (the hard way). Thanks Dave for the topic, and thanks OPEC et al for destroying the world economy with high and ever-rising crude prices.
32 posted on 05/27/2008 10:18:47 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______________________Profile updated Monday, April 28, 2008)
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To: DaveLoneRanger

The only financial news I heard reported today was that “consumer confidence” has reached a new low.

Don’t get me started....


33 posted on 05/27/2008 10:19:41 PM PDT by littlehouse36 (Those who make peaceful revolution impossible make violent revolution inevitable - JFK)
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To: DaveLoneRanger

“Home sales post unexpected April increase.”

Just a dead-cat bounce. The trend is downward and will remain so until prices drop very significantly.


34 posted on 05/28/2008 2:28:56 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner!)
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To: DaveLoneRanger
Sales of new homes rose in April for the first time in six months although the unexpected increase still left activity near the lowest level in 17 years.

If it means anything, my agent in Southeast Tennessee noted that sales were up in the last few weeks as well. I'd like to see them rise in Northern Ohio where I have great interest in the market at this time.

35 posted on 05/28/2008 2:32:52 PM PDT by meyer (Still conservative, no longer Republican)
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To: DaveLoneRanger

The article, not you, Dave. :)


36 posted on 05/28/2008 3:44:26 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
"So, we’re NOT doomed? ;)

Just wait an hour or so...the sky will start falling again.

37 posted on 05/28/2008 3:48:29 PM PDT by ljco (Privatizing profits and socializing losses is no way to run an economy)
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To: ljco

It’s hard to keep up from day to day. ;)


38 posted on 05/28/2008 3:53:48 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: DaveLoneRanger

Gee, the housing market goes up, down, and then up. Just like average temperatures. The only reason that this is news to liberals is because they are so incredibly and shockingly ignorant and naive. I wouldn’t trust a liberal to polish my shoes, let alone run the government.


39 posted on 05/28/2008 5:55:28 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham ("The land of the Free...Because of the Brave")
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To: DaveLoneRanger

I expected this increase. The sperts never expect anything positive.


40 posted on 05/28/2008 5:59:22 PM PDT by gitmo (From now on, ending a sentence with a preposition is something up with which I will not put.)
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To: RegulatorCountry

In Charlotte, we’ve not experienced housing drops.


41 posted on 05/28/2008 6:00:26 PM PDT by gitmo (From now on, ending a sentence with a preposition is something up with which I will not put.)
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To: DaveLoneRanger

Unexpected? Not likely with prices falling and so many people desperate to unload, prices are bound to fall. Sheesh.


42 posted on 05/29/2008 9:07:59 AM PDT by Natchez Hawk (What's so funny about the first, second, and fourth Amendments?)
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To: Between the Lines

Investments = savings that grow.

NOT including investments in savings is intellectually dishonest.


43 posted on 05/29/2008 8:23:01 PM PDT by RockinRight (Supreme Court Justice Fred Thompson. The next best place for Fred.)
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To: Dustbunny

The comparisons aren’t between different seasons. The comparisons are between April of one year and April the previous year, March of one year and March the previous year. The numbers probably lie (what government “statistics” don’t?), but the seasonal problem you cited isn’t relevant.


44 posted on 05/30/2008 4:33:08 AM PDT by jammer
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To: RockinRight
Investments = savings that grow.

No. Investments = savings that CAN grown, they can also decline as we have seen in the current housing market. They can also totally disappear when companies discontinue pensions as we have seen so many times recently. or if the stock markets should go south.

NOT including investments in savings is intellectually dishonest.

No. Including saving investments is intellectually dishonest. That is why the Fed who puts out the "Savings Rate" has never included investments in the 70+ years they have been doing it. It is also why the report put out by AG Edwards is called the "Nest Egg Index" and not a savings index.

45 posted on 05/30/2008 4:50:15 AM PDT by Between the Lines (I am very cognizant of my fallibility, sinfulness, and other limitations.)
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To: Between the Lines

OK, but showing a negative savings rate to act as if Americans as a whole have not a pot to piss in is NOT correct, even if their money is tied up elsewhere.


46 posted on 05/30/2008 4:51:44 AM PDT by RockinRight (Supreme Court Justice Fred Thompson. The next best place for Fred.)
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To: RockinRight
I think the low savings rate is a good thing. It means people are investing their money instead of stashing it and that is good for the economy. It also means that many boomers that are hitting retirement age will not be retiring because they do not have enough savings. That is good for the economy for several reasons. They will keep putting money into the stock market, rather than taking it out, which is better for stock prices. They will continue paying taxes. And it will help prevent the “brain drain,” that will happen when boomers retire and there are not enough younger workers to fill their shoes.

The negative savings rate may be the best thing for our country at this time.

47 posted on 05/30/2008 5:19:30 AM PDT by Between the Lines (I am very cognizant of my fallibility, sinfulness, and other limitations.)
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To: jammer

If you say so.


48 posted on 05/30/2008 6:25:10 AM PDT by Dustbunny (Freedom prospers when religion is vibrant and the rule of law under God is acknowledged. The Gipper)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep

I suspected as much - thanks for posting that. I don’t understand why people complain about the “high housing costs”; as long as they’re not artificially high (like they have been in the West recently), then you get all the money back eventually. I’d rather live where the wages are higher and housing is more expensive, because I end up wealthier in the long run.


49 posted on 05/30/2008 7:02:33 AM PDT by MinnesotaLibertarian
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To: Between the Lines
The "Nest Egg Index" you linked has little to do with savings and is mostly about investments.

What exactly are investments if they're not savings? Aside from keeping just enough money in my checking account to cover basic expenses, all of my money is invested. That IS my savings.
50 posted on 05/30/2008 7:05:58 AM PDT by MinnesotaLibertarian
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