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Myths about the white male vote
Chicago Tribune ^ | 5/25/2008 | Michael Tackett

Posted on 05/25/2008 7:51:11 PM PDT by markomalley

This message is for that oppressed, neglected, passed over, bitter, gun-toting group of people otherwise known as working-class white males: You really don't matter.

To all the hand-wringing over Sen. Barack Obama's alleged problem with winning over the votes of those white men, let's counter with some other facts.

Obama has a lot of company. John Kerry. Al Gore. Bill Clinton. Michael Dukakis. Walter Mondale. Jimmy Carter. Just to name the six most recent Democratic nominees who lost the white, working-class, male vote.

In a matchup with Sen. John McCain, Sen. Hillary Clinton does no better than Obama among these voters, even though her candidacy is now portrayed as the second coming of Norma Rae.

The non-partisan Pew Research Center's latest survey shows that Obama and Clinton both would get 45 percent of the overall white vote in a matchup against McCain. Obama's appeal to white-collar men compensates for his shortcomings among blue-collar men, loosely defined as voters with only a high school education.

George W. Bush won 58 percent of the votes of all whites in 2004 and he won 54 percent of the votes of all whites in 2000. Among white males, you have to go back to 1964 to find a Democrat who won a majority, and that was Lyndon Johnson. Bill Clinton came close, winning a plurality in his 1996 rout of Republican Bob Dole.

There are a number of theories on why working-class white males have so abandoned the party they had joined with such vigor during the New Deal. The cultural identity of the Democratic Party changed, with a focus on civil rights, gender equality and opposition to the Vietnam War. Other programs of the Great Society helped to build a sturdy allegiance among minorities, while at the same time engendering resentment among many...

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; electionpresident; hillary; identitypolitics; malevote; mccain; obama; race; whites; whitevote
gotta look at the comments on the article...classic!
1 posted on 05/25/2008 7:51:11 PM PDT by markomalley
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To: markomalley
As a white male, I could less what the Democrats think of me. Besides, I'll soon be extinct.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

2 posted on 05/25/2008 7:52:27 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop

Speak for yourself I have no intention of going extinct.


3 posted on 05/25/2008 8:01:06 PM PDT by utherdoul
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To: goldstategop

Oh I think we will manage, funny thing is, this has been tried before and not by the Obamao, McGovern tried it, failed, Dukakis tried it, failed.

I’ve got to say, something about that article really pisses me off.


4 posted on 05/25/2008 8:01:56 PM PDT by padre35 (Conservative in Exile/ Isaiah 3.3/Cry havoc and let slip the RINOS)
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To: goldstategop
As a white male, I could less what the Democrats think of me. Besides, I'll soon be extinct.

No need to worry--we're needed to pay the taxes to support the rest, and for child support payments, too.

5 posted on 05/25/2008 8:10:22 PM PDT by lightman (Waiting for Godot and searching for Avignon)
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To: lightman
But... what happens when the last white male is dead?

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

6 posted on 05/25/2008 8:16:09 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: padre35

The disgusting, slanted, stupidly leftist way in which it’s written?


7 posted on 05/25/2008 8:20:26 PM PDT by darkangel82 (If you're not part of the solution, you are part of the problem. (Say no to RINOs))
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To: darkangel82

That is a part of it, the other part is how easily a entire segment of the country, a hard working, tax paying, God fearing part of America can so easily be pitched over the side of the deck by the Obamao and handlers.

The DC Republicans are out of touch with America, the Obamao and Friends and Fellow Travelors are out of this Galaxy with America.


8 posted on 05/25/2008 8:25:50 PM PDT by padre35 (Conservative in Exile/ Isaiah 3.3/Cry havoc and let slip the RINOS)
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To: goldstategop

I’m more concerned about the continuation of Judeo-Christian values. Who cares what race the perpetuator?


9 posted on 05/25/2008 8:47:56 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: markomalley
Obama has a lot of company. John Kerry. Al Gore. Bill Clinton. Michael Dukakis. Walter Mondale. Jimmy Carter. Just to name the six most recent Democratic nominees who lost the white, working-class, male vote.

Out of that list only Jimmy Carter managed to get 50% of the votes cast and he barely did it.

10 posted on 05/25/2008 8:52:19 PM PDT by Libertarianize the GOP (Make all taxes truly voluntary)
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To: markomalley

There’s a lot of comments from idiots supporting Obama too.

Don’t stay home folks. Vote against Obama this year. It *must* be done. We can’t let this Chicago politician into the White House. We’ll all regret it.


11 posted on 05/25/2008 9:02:46 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, John 11:25, 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13, John 6:69)
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To: utherdoul
Fo shizzle. What you say honkey.




Think anyone will notice my pasty white butt?

12 posted on 05/25/2008 9:10:15 PM PDT by MARTIAL MONK (I'm waiting for the POP!)
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To: padre35
Obamao

Brilliant to say the least! File a patent for it!
13 posted on 05/25/2008 9:29:35 PM PDT by The_Republican (Ovaries of the World Unite! Rush, Laura, Ann, Greta - Time for the Ovulation!)
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To: markomalley

Lotta “seminar” posters on that thread.


14 posted on 05/25/2008 9:30:37 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: markomalley
Other programs of the Great Society helped to build a sturdy allegiance among minorities, while at the same time engendering resentment among many...

And now that alliance of minority groups which threaten to tear the Dhimmicrat party into a million pieces. Let's sing along....Newsboys - Million Pieces

15 posted on 05/25/2008 9:58:01 PM PDT by Tamar1973 (Catch the Korean Wave, one Bae Yong Joon film at a time!)
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To: goldstategop

They say the redheads will go extinct first. LOL!


16 posted on 05/25/2008 9:59:04 PM PDT by Tamar1973 (Catch the Korean Wave, one Bae Yong Joon film at a time!)
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To: lightman
Don't forget about public housing...

Any person living in the Republic should be entitled to a free housing unit courtesy of the US taxpayer.

Only free stuff can end the "War on Poverty," right?


17 posted on 05/25/2008 10:36:48 PM PDT by Prole (Pray for the families of Chris and Channon.)
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To: goldstategop

Then no one else will be around to foot the bills for all the “free stuff” going to the “war on poverty.”


18 posted on 05/25/2008 10:38:35 PM PDT by Prole (Pray for the families of Chris and Channon.)
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To: markomalley

Dear Lughead,
The fact that so many other rat candidates failed to win the White male vote means nothing. It is a given that barack curious george mcgovern will not win the White male vote. If you disagree please stop reading because you are too stupid to understand the rest of my comments.
The question is :How much worse will he do with White males than frenchie and algore and that schmuck from Mass.
I think he will have trouble breaking 20% when you discount the Clearasil crowd.


19 posted on 05/26/2008 4:53:22 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatives live in the truth. Liberals live in lies.)
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To: markomalley
Mob rule...

The founding fathers originally only allowed productive members of society to vote. It seems there was a good frickin reason.

20 posted on 05/26/2008 5:41:34 AM PDT by varyouga ("Rove is some mysterious God of politics & mind control" - DU 10-24-06)
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To: markomalley

“The non-partisan Pew Research Center...”

Pew is non-partison about as much as Castro is pro-American. Pew is an unadulterated, freedom-hating propaganda machine for the Marxist rat party.


21 posted on 05/26/2008 5:48:16 AM PDT by sergeantdave (Governments hate armed citizens more than armed criminals)
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To: goldstategop
As a white male, I could less what the Democrats think of me. Besides, I'll soon be extinct.

Indeed! I'm seeing more and more of this discussion about the white, working-class, Christian male as some media pariah. It seems that this has been on the minds of the MSM for some time, but the thought, nay the exasperating glimmer of hope (/sarcasmOff) of an Obama presidency is bringing to the fore the possibility that, Hey... white men don't matter any more!

In many Caribbean nations and most parts of Africa, being black is a societal mark. The blacker you are, the less likely you are to ascend to any worthy post in society. Only the fairest skinned among the blacks make it in their society.

A young African man in one of my college English courses, bright as a whip, would constantly extoll the virtues of America and how wonderful it is to be here and to be educated. He was Nigerian and his skin was so black it looked blue (blue black, as he called it). He told me stories of how he was essentially made to transport heavy items in his village or otherwise be a mule. He wasn't considered important by anyone.

The point to my story here is that as we become more integrated as a society, and you only have to go to your local grocery to see more than a few handfuls of interracial couples, families and products of those unions to see it's happening, we are going to find the demonization of white people as more and more necessary to society at large. This will come about as a backlash response from the generations who don't want to be relegated to a racial caste system due to the fact that mommy (or daddy) decided to be multicultural in their mating decisions. They'll want this "equality" which they won't, in their minds, be able to achieve due to the fact that "whitey" is still out there "holding [them] down."

Make no mistake. White, Christian, working-class (and even white-collar) men are going to find it very difficult to live comfortably in this world in the next 50 years. I am a stalwart supporter of racial and gender transparency, but I don't think the militant race baiters and feminists see it quite the same way. They don't want to be equal, gentlemen... they want to be BETTER!

"Absolute power corrupts absolutely." - Lord Acton

22 posted on 05/26/2008 6:20:28 AM PDT by rarestia ("One man with a gun can control 100 without one." - Lenin / MOLWN LABE!)
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To: markomalley

God forbid white people make it known they are proud of their race. That would be racist! No Miss White America pageant either. No White Entertainment Network. No Congressional White Caucus. No United Caucasian College Fund. No Nat’l Assoc for the Advancement of White People either.


23 posted on 05/26/2008 9:08:19 AM PDT by rfreedom4u (My Freedom of speech trumps your feelings!)
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To: rfreedom4u
White folks don't NEED such events/organizations because we KNOW, we don't have to SHOW (get it!).

Folks of acheivement don't need "racial pride" to validate their existence. This is why even when you look at white "ethnic pride" events, they are usually dominated by schlepp class whites, not the cream of the crop.

24 posted on 05/26/2008 9:11:01 AM PDT by Clemenza (Why do I Find Myself Attracted to Amy Winehouse?)
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To: markomalley

My daughter lives in Philadelphia and she said most people she talks to there will vote for Hussein Obama just because he’s black. She asks them about the issues and they are clueless.

God help us all!


25 posted on 05/26/2008 9:12:05 AM PDT by rfreedom4u (My Freedom of speech trumps your feelings!)
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26 posted on 05/26/2008 9:17:31 AM PDT by cyberella
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To: rarestia
Well, I spent a long time working down in Panama, where whites are about 10-15% of the population, but dominate the higher ends of the business and professional classes. There is resentment among the masses (who curse the "rabiblancos" when they are not around), but to to educational/cultural limitations, can't do a damn thing about it, even if they had a "revolution."

The US is in an interesting position, as wealth shifts from the West to the East. The US will only benefit from this shift (provided we adopt a Realist foreign policy, instead of the "everyone must practice liberal democracy" BS pushed by everyone from Wilson to Bush II), although the cultural ramifications are yet to be determined.

The point is that the US is a fluid society that has adapted to social change very easily, especially compared to other developing/developed societies in Europe, Asia, and Latin America. People of intelligence will do fine in the emerging society. The folks who are going to fall behind are the less educated native born (especially in the rust belt/rural areas) and the descendants of the black and brown poor in the cities. Racial divisions, and the lack of organizational skills, however, will limit any "governing coalition" to form that could impose their will on the producers/creative/entrepreneurial elite. I think that the political elites will throw out crumbs as they always have (via government jobs) to handle this.

27 posted on 05/26/2008 9:21:18 AM PDT by Clemenza (Why do I Find Myself Attracted to Amy Winehouse?)
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To: markomalley
the white, working-class, male vote... In a matchup with Sen. John McCain, Sen. Hillary Clinton does no better than Obama among these voters

Which is why Obama would be nuts to put her on the ticket.

28 posted on 05/27/2008 1:51:51 PM PDT by T. Buzzard Trueblood ("a wee bit silly." -Lord Trimble on Hillary Clinton's claim of foreign policy "experience".)
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