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Senate drops farm guest-worker legislation
Daily Herald ^ | Thursday, 22 May 2008 | Michael Doyle

Posted on 05/24/2008 6:36:51 PM PDT by Delacon

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Just after the depressing(and not suprising) news that McCain is yet again touting "comprehensive immigration reform", this quietly hit the news. WE WON AGAIN. Opponents of amnesty were able to beat back the enemy once more. Feinstein and Craig tried to attach this act(EARA) to the supplementary war funding bill and they lost the other day. For those that think its hopeless to fight DC on this issue, think again. With both parties politicians, aided by big business, they still can't get the job done because the American people wont sit still for it.
1 posted on 05/24/2008 6:36:51 PM PDT by Delacon
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To: dynachrome; BGHater; radar101; Sybeck1; K-oneTexas; zeestephen; AuntB; TheMom; Checkers

ping


2 posted on 05/24/2008 6:38:45 PM PDT by Delacon ("The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." H. L. Mencken)
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To: Delacon

Is there a reason why we can’t have Sessions replace McLame for the POTUS run? Sessions is one of the VERY few who will actually butt heads with the Dems.


3 posted on 05/24/2008 6:44:12 PM PDT by Ladysmith ((NRA, SAS) Praise God and pass the ammunition!)
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To: Ladysmith

Damn, I forgot to add thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you Senator Sessions.


4 posted on 05/24/2008 6:46:56 PM PDT by Delacon ("The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." H. L. Mencken)
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And wouldn’t it be nice to hear McCain’s thoughts on the matter?


5 posted on 05/24/2008 6:53:40 PM PDT by the anti-liberal (Write in: Fred Thompson)
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This was only "half" a win. The amnesty was shot down, but the other part increasing visas for unskilled workers was left in the bill.
6 posted on 05/24/2008 6:55:16 PM PDT by Myrddin
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"WE WON AGAIN"

It was only campaign strategy.

It was not an accident that it was brought forth to coincide with the farm bill to demonstrate to agribusiness where the GOP stands. And, true to form, the GOP started jerking their knee.

Why would the dems fool with immigration now when they will have a much stronger negotiating position next year?

7 posted on 05/24/2008 6:58:23 PM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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“And wouldn’t it be nice to hear McCain’s thoughts on the matter?”

Nah. At this point in the game, his thoughts on the matter don’t count for a bucket of warm spit. Whats important is that he hear OUR thoughts on the matter...again and again and as loudly as possible. It isn’t just McCain either. All pols run for cover when they try to sneak an amnesty bill by us and get caught.


8 posted on 05/24/2008 7:06:41 PM PDT by Delacon ("The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." H. L. Mencken)
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To: Ben Ficklin

Actually I thought it was because Feinstein et al were getting loads of pressure from the left for being to weak on pushing amnesty.


9 posted on 05/24/2008 7:08:52 PM PDT by Delacon ("The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." H. L. Mencken)
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True, true.

Given the fact that the guy is running for Presidential office though - it would be nice to force him to speak his mind on the matter (though I expect dissimulating response) after his recent comments vis-a-vis 'comprehensive immigration reform.'

Notice that these recent comments are in contradistinction from his earlier statements on "hearing the people": enforcement first.

10 posted on 05/24/2008 7:13:11 PM PDT by the anti-liberal (Write in: Fred Thompson)
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To: Myrddin
Merlin, I am ambivalent on this visa issue. As long as immigrants are coming into the country legal and visas aren't messing with demand that could be met by citizens, I am receptive to the argument for increasing their number.
11 posted on 05/24/2008 7:14:58 PM PDT by Delacon ("The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." H. L. Mencken)
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If that were the case, the dems wouldn’t be blocking attempts to raise the quota on the H2B.


12 posted on 05/24/2008 7:23:08 PM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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If all conservative candidates for Congress truly side with the majority of American citizens and with a majority of legal immigrants on the issue of pro-law enforcement solutions to all illegal immigration issues and problems along with full borders security, then they can truly win. All conservatives everywhere must fight for their political lives from now on because the U.S. is still at risk for long-term socialism from mid-January ‘09 on! It’s not acceptable for ANY conservative voter to decide to stay at home on November 4, just because they don’t like any choices for POTUS in ‘08. Truly making the next Congress as well as truly making all political offices at every political level as conservative as they could possibly be is far too important to ignore, and the future of the entire U.S. as a country will truly depend upon what political direction as a whole the U.S. ends up taking after mid-January ‘09.


13 posted on 05/24/2008 7:26:48 PM PDT by johnthebaptistmoore (Vote for conservatives AT ALL POLITICAL LEVELS! Encourage all others to do the same on November 4!)
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I’ve reading that the La Raza kind of groups are using an all or nothing strategy. They want amnesty or nothing right now. They want all 12 million or more illegals granted amnesty. They see increasing visa limits as a pressure valve that they dont have exist. Rightly they know that if we get our visa act in order, then they lose power.


14 posted on 05/24/2008 7:31:54 PM PDT by Delacon ("The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." H. L. Mencken)
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If there is an all or nothing(the whole enchilada) strategy, why would Feinstein’s amendment deal with only the narrow segment of ag workers?


15 posted on 05/24/2008 7:44:49 PM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Delacon

Thank God for Senator Jeff Sessions.


16 posted on 05/24/2008 8:10:15 PM PDT by JustaDumbBlonde ("When the government fears the people there is liberty ... " Thomas Jefferson)
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I like that “whole enchilada”. Because it was the best she could hope for. Listen I picked up on the “whole enchilada” strategy during the SAVE Act dust up. La Raza got mad at the dems because the bill was supposed to provide dems with cover during campaigning because it was an enforcement bill. La Raza went crazy because it had no amnesty provisions. They demand an amnesty provision in any immigration bill. Once that camel’s nose is under the tent La Raza has a victory they can build on. Visas, fence, enforcement? These are reforms La Raza can’t hang their hat on. Its amnesty(no matter how big or how small) that increase their power. Now Feinstein can say she tried one last time before November.


17 posted on 05/24/2008 8:27:08 PM PDT by Delacon ("The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." H. L. Mencken)
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To: JustaDumbBlonde

Read my post #4 :)


18 posted on 05/24/2008 8:29:15 PM PDT by Delacon ("The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." H. L. Mencken)
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Where I said “Listen I picked up on the “whole enchilada” strategy during the SAVE Act dust up. La Raza got mad at the dems because the bill was supposed to provide dems with cover during campaigning because it was an enforcement bill. La Raza went crazy because it had no amnesty provisions” I meant to add EVEN THOUGH THE DEMS NEVER INTENDED FOR THE BILL TO PASS, LA RAZA GOT MAD AT THEIR FRIENDS FOR NOT INCLUDING SOME FORM OF AMNESTY. All or nothing.


19 posted on 05/24/2008 8:43:15 PM PDT by Delacon ("The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." H. L. Mencken)
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Hey! Senator Inofe was a major part of that defeat of amnesty, too.


20 posted on 05/24/2008 10:10:35 PM PDT by SatinDoll (Desperately desiring a conservative government.)
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