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GOP Senate Massacre of '08
FrontPageMagazine.com ^ | 5/23/2008 | Dick Morris

Posted on 05/23/2008 7:40:15 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY

While Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) hangs in there, locked in a tough race with Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.), the Republican undercard is facing obliteration in the 2008 general elections for the Senate. Polling suggests that a massacre may be in the offing — and one that’s possibly even greater than the worst of previous GOP years: 1958, 1964, 1974, 1986 and 2006.

Scott Rasmussen, whose site, www.rasmussenreports.com, follows these races closely, is producing truly hair-raising polling data.

Of the open Republican Senate seats in contention, Democratic victory seems very likely in Virginia (Democratic former Gov. Mark Warner now has 55 percent, while fellow former Republican Gov. Jim Gilmore stands at 37) and New Mexico (where Democratic Rep. Tom Udall takes 53 percent to GOP Rep. Steve Pearce’s 37 and 57 percent to Republican Rep. Heather Wilson’s 36). In Colorado, Democratic Rep. Mark Udall has a narrow lead over Republican Bob Schaffer (45-42). Nebraska would seem safely Republican, but a humongous black turnout in Mississippi could elect former Democratic Gov. Ronnie Musgrove, just as it led to a Democratic congressional victory in a bi-election this month. Score them: two Democrat, one leaning Democrat, one leaning Republican, and one Republican. A net loss of two or three seats.

And then there are the endangered incumbents. Three GOP senators are actually behind their Democratic challengers. Alaska’s Ted Stevens is behind Mark Begich by 47-45. Elizabeth Dole trails Kay Hagan in North Carolina by 48-47. And Jeanne Shaheen is well ahead of John Sununu in New Hampshire, 51-43. Stevens’s legal problems and the likely huge black turnout in North Carolina make all three states lean Democratic at this point.

Even when GOP incumbents lead, they are perilously under 50 percent. In Oregon, as of this writing, Gordon Smith leads Jeff Merkley by only 45-42 and Steve Novick by 47-41. And in Texas, John Cornyn leads Rick Noriega by only 47-43. In addition, Norm Coleman in Minnesota is hanging on by his teeth against Al Franken, 50-43; Susan Collins is only narrowly ahead of Rep. Tom Allen in Maine, 52-42; and in Kansas, Pat Roberts holds only a 52-40 lead over Jim Slattery. Mitch McConnell in Kentucky may also be in trouble.

So, among incumbents, score it three leaning Democratic, two tossups, and three leaning Republican.

Overall, that’s a likely Democratic pickup of five seats, with an eight-seat gain possible, and, in a partisan wipeout, a 12-seat shift.

Mon dieu!

In all likelihood, the filibuster will still remain a theoretical Republican option, but, in practical terms, may be beyond reach, especially if Obama wins the White House.

Driving the GOP’s imperiled Senate situation, or course, is a massive shift in party identification. While the two parties are normally about tied in party ID, the Democrats now enjoy a 44-30 advantage in the latest Fox News poll of April 29.A combination of the Iraq war, gas prices, the credit crisis and a looming recession are dragging down the Republican Party, big time.

So is a president with a 28 percent approval rating. Bush needs to go out and tell America that things are bad, but not that bad. There are solid signs that the economy may not be tanking after all. Unemployment, while rising, is still at historic lows. The credit crisis has not led to a wholesale collapse of the financial industry and the instability appears to be easing. And, in Iraq, we are approaching a more stable situation with lower combat deaths. Bush, who has largely been hunkered down in the White House, needs to hit the trail and move his ratings up into the mid- or high 30s, not an insurmountable challenge.

Will the endangered Republicans recover? Most have prevailed, in the past, by lifting their personal ratings out of possible danger early in the race. But when long-term incumbents find themselves mired in the high 40s or low 50s in vote share, it indicates a massive voter desire for change that is not likely to abate.

In the House, the incredible three Democratic bi-election victories, combined with the retirements of so many Republican incumbents, indicates that the GOP may be facing disaster there as well.

This is not a good year to be a Republican.


TOPICS: Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 110th; 2008; dickmorris; gop; massacre; mccain; republicans; senate; toesucker
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1 posted on 05/23/2008 7:40:15 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Considering that McCain has merged his campaign with the RNC itself, that takes all of the cash away from the undercards to prop up McCain's failure to raise money.

This story is not an overstatement by any means.
I see a 57 seat Senate for the dems and maybe more than that.

2 posted on 05/23/2008 7:45:18 PM PDT by bill1952 (I will vote for McCain if he resigns his Senate seat before this election.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

If we lose the filibuster in the Senate, we are screwed. Almost as bad as if McCain wins and pushes through his amnesty for illegals and other nonsense.


3 posted on 05/23/2008 7:45:27 PM PDT by tips up
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Kiss my ass.. in French.. Mon Deiu!


4 posted on 05/23/2008 7:45:49 PM PDT by acapesket
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To: Free ThinkerNY

it’s not over until

the fat lady in a pantsuit fires her gun.


5 posted on 05/23/2008 7:48:35 PM PDT by ken21 ( people die + you never hear from them again.)
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To: acapesket

Dick Morris is just what he claims to be......
A Dick.


6 posted on 05/23/2008 7:48:41 PM PDT by acapesket
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To: bill1952

McCain just picked a guy to head his VP search who has donated in the past to McCain, Richard Lugar and Arlen Specter. We’re SCREWED from the top of the ticket on down.


7 posted on 05/23/2008 7:59:42 PM PDT by NavVet ( If you don't defend Conservatism in the Primaries, you won't have it to defend in November)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

was worried until I noticed the Dick Morris byline. He gets everything backwards.


8 posted on 05/23/2008 8:00:06 PM PDT by 6SJ7
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Well if this was October 24 instead of May 24 I would be terrified by these numbers. As it is they should serve as a wake up call that the party has a LOT of work to do between now and then. Luckily 5+ months is a lifetime in politics and we might find ourselves in a totally different political environment now than we have now. I'm not being over realistic about the party's chances, I'm just saying plenty of time remains to stem the tide and maybe even reverse it.
9 posted on 05/23/2008 8:03:14 PM PDT by apillar
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To: NavVet

Given the trend of current events, I have started making arrangements for my minor children to have the ability, schooling, and wherewithall to leave America itself.
I consider it a sort of “hedge.”

And that is nothing that I have ever even dreamed of in my entire life.
Thank you for your post - bill


10 posted on 05/23/2008 8:05:24 PM PDT by bill1952 (I will vote for McCain if he resigns his Senate seat before this election.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

It could be a good year to be a Republican. Jim Gilmore should be able to clean the clock of Warner who raised taxes and supports extremely liberal views. He also helped fund the effort to block the Virginia marriage ammendment.
http://hamptonroads.com/node/168941

Come on and help support a true conservative Jim Gilmore.
http://www.jimgilmoreforsenate.com/index.php

It will be our ability to deliver the Senate to the GOP that will determine how well we get our way on judges and other issues with McCain provided he wins.

We really don’t want a McCain presidency with both houses controled by Democrats. Get out the word. Mark Warner and most of the Democrats running are liberals. There are a lot of conservatives running nationwide. Quit griping about McCain and help conservatives win the day to keep McCain honest.


11 posted on 05/23/2008 8:07:17 PM PDT by Maelstorm (They will tell you what to drive, tell you what to eat, and tell you what to believe.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I think the toe-sucker has this one right.


12 posted on 05/23/2008 8:09:11 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Who would McQueeg rather have mad at him: You or the liberals?)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

One more thing, Isn’t it time for the bridge to nowhere Ted Stevens to retire in embarrassment? Just put up a conservative in Alaska and they will win. Why run the earmark retread? Isn’t Robert Byrd enough of a pork king without one of our own vying for the crown?


13 posted on 05/23/2008 8:16:16 PM PDT by Maelstorm (They will tell you what to drive, tell you what to eat, and tell you what to believe.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
GOP Senate Massacre of '08

Dick meant to say: GOP Senate, House and Presidential Massacre of '08.

Unfortunately Dick might be right this time.

14 posted on 05/23/2008 8:23:34 PM PDT by Anticommie
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To: apillar
I'm not being over realistic about the party's chances, I'm just saying plenty of time remains to stem the tide and maybe even reverse it.

In other words, the GOP has time to make the changes they feel need to be made: they will undoubtedly see these numbers and conclude that their ties to conservatism are killing them.

They'll say, "It's obvious we need to be more like McCain if we want to succeed."

Which will only make the fall much worst then it looks now. Bye, bye freedom- hello socialism!!!

15 posted on 05/23/2008 8:33:46 PM PDT by Fox_Mulder77
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To: Free ThinkerNY; zencat

It will be with great joy that I wake up to a filibuster proof democrat majority in the senate, a steamroller democrat majority in the house, and Barak Hussein Obama as president.

I want the American electorate to be given exactly what they want good and hard for 2 to 4 years WITHOUT benefit of lubrication and with ABSOLUTELY NO CHANCE of any conservative being given the slightest shred of credit


16 posted on 05/23/2008 9:01:32 PM PDT by GravityFree (Death is not the end, nor the beginning of the end, but only the end of the beginning.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Is DC statehood a matter of passing a law or does that have to go to a Constitutional Amendment??


17 posted on 05/23/2008 9:02:35 PM PDT by incredulous joe
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To: GravityFree

“I want the American electorate to be given exactly what they want good and hard for 2 to 4 years”

Careful what you wish for. If the Dems get that kind of power the Republic may be forever changed.

There may be no Conservative tide to return the adults to power.


18 posted on 05/23/2008 9:06:28 PM PDT by incredulous joe
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To: Free ThinkerNY
A combination of the Iraq war, gas prices, the credit crisis and a looming recession are dragging down the Republican Party, big time.

So their behavior has nothing to do with it? Gee. How unlucky. </sarcasm>

19 posted on 05/23/2008 9:17:39 PM PDT by irv
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To: incredulous joe

My bet is when oil hits $500.00 per barrel and gasoline is $25.00 per gallon “the people” will be burning hippies to keep their homes warm and “drilling” every environmentalist in sight to find oil. Once the tide turns the politicians will follow the lead of the people ( that’s where the votes are ) and oil rigs will be sprouting like dandelions on a spring day.


20 posted on 05/23/2008 9:26:41 PM PDT by GravityFree (Death is not the end, nor the beginning of the end, but only the end of the beginning.)
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To: incredulous joe
“I want the American electorate to be given exactly what they want good and hard for 2 to 4 years”

Go blank yourself. My family and I deserve no such disasters, just because in your childish view of the World it will lead to someone else getting the "credit". The Supreme Court will be lost for thirty years. The millions of new "legal" citizens will ensure dem majorities for generations. The loss of life to terrorsist or maybe Chinese attacks could be in the millions.

Glad you're having fun though. Yeah we'll show them by losing elections this time. Brilliant.

21 posted on 05/23/2008 9:31:40 PM PDT by Williams
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To: Free ThinkerNY

The GOP richly deserves to have their a$$es kicked this fall. They’ve provided fodder to the liberals, they’ve ignored and even provoked their conservative base, and they act like a bunch of patricians. Since we can’t upset party rules to replace worn out incumbents then toos them all out this fall and perhaps we can get a new Newt Gingrich to bring the party back to its senses in 2010.


22 posted on 05/23/2008 9:34:05 PM PDT by PeterFinn (McCain in 2008 means Hillary in 2012.)
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To: Williams

Losing elections is the ONLY thing that will get their attention. If you’ve found something that’s a better “attention getter” I’m open to any suggestion you might make.


23 posted on 05/23/2008 9:36:46 PM PDT by GravityFree (Death is not the end, nor the beginning of the end, but only the end of the beginning.)
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To: PeterFinn

I'm hoping that John McCain will go down in flames and it will finally bring to and end the tradition of old GOP war horses like Dole and McCain singing "It's My Turn" once they've maxed out their party seniority and a general election comes up.

Maybe 2010 or 2012 will bring us a crop of "cowering in their boots" freshman who will follow the lead of an old hand like Duncan Hunter.


24 posted on 05/23/2008 9:53:10 PM PDT by GravityFree (Death is not the end, nor the beginning of the end, but only the end of the beginning.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
the Republican undercard is facing obliteration in the 2008 general elections for the Senate.

The Republican Party, circa 2008: pro-amnesty for illegal aliens... steadfastly refusing to take serious action on earmarks and rampant government spending... running a naked and unapologetic liberal as their candidate for the office of the U.S. Presidency...

The old maxim "actions have consequences" does inevitably occur to one, here.

25 posted on 05/23/2008 9:59:09 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (If McCain really CAN "win without conservatives," then why do you care if I vote for him or not?)
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To: GravityFree
“I want the American electorate to be given exactly what they want good and hard for 2 to 4 years WITHOUT benefit of lubrication and with ABSOLUTELY NO CHANCE of any conservative being given the slightest shred of credit”

Well how mature you have grown up to be!

Why would you use such references in a political forum? Is that the same things you said about the Dems in the previous elections where they were about to lost big?

Now turn off the lights before the baby sitter gets mad.

26 posted on 05/23/2008 10:02:58 PM PDT by JSteff (This election is NOT a presidential only. 3 to 5 Supremes' will retire! Vote accordingly)
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To: Williams
The millions of new "legal" citizens will ensure dem majorities for generations.

Yeah. If only some major political party were actually willing to run a candidate dedicated (or even moderately interested) to preventing that from happening. Might actually manage to scare up a little in way of genuine support from the conservative voting base, that fellah.

Oh, well.

27 posted on 05/23/2008 10:03:13 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (If McCain really CAN "win without conservatives," then why do you care if I vote for him or not?)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

btt


28 posted on 05/23/2008 10:15:13 PM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: JSteff

I must confess to more than just a little pent up, blazing, white hot, anger. McCain & Kennedy both tried to sell us down the river with the Amnesty Bill. Jorge Bush signed McCain-Feingold after acknowledging it was unconstitutional. The GOP squandered a perfectly good majority they had since 1994 by saying no to no one and spending money as fast as the US Treasury could print it. Still by some miracle the economy continues to chug along and the Mexican drug gangs haven’t tried to takeover the southwest . . . yet.


29 posted on 05/23/2008 10:16:15 PM PDT by GravityFree (Death is not the end, nor the beginning of the end, but only the end of the beginning.)
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To: GravityFree

I so heartily agree!


30 posted on 05/23/2008 10:18:52 PM PDT by PeterFinn (McCain in 2008 means Hillary in 2012.)
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To: GravityFree
PRESIDENT Bush signed McCain-Feingold after acknowledging it was unconstitutional.

Yep, after handing it to the President with a near veto proof majority.
There were 11 back benchers waiting to jump to attention if necessary to override a veto.

31 posted on 05/23/2008 10:49:08 PM PDT by Just A Nobody (PISSANT for President '08 - NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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To: PeterFinn; JSteff; KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle; Williams; incredulous joe

Headline from the summer of 2014



Obama holds employment to modest 11%


AP-Today the U.S. Department of Labor released the revised unemployment figures for the first quarter of 2014 and unemployment continues to hold steady for the third consecutive quarter at a relatively modest 11%.

President Obama's council of economic advisors are forecasting substantial economic growth of 0.1% to 0.2% to begin either during the fourth quarter of 2014 or early in the first quarter of 2015. The President remains optimistic about the economic future of the United States and promises to hold inflation in check at or below its current level of 23%.

32 posted on 05/23/2008 10:50:10 PM PDT by GravityFree (Death is not the end, nor the beginning of the end, but only the end of the beginning.)
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To: Maelstorm

The Republican Party could change its official name to “Log Cabin Republican Party” and would only be slightly worse off.


33 posted on 05/23/2008 11:03:18 PM PDT by buck jarret
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To: incredulous joe; GravityFree
You have it right, the conservative movement may never be able to find its way out of the wilderness.

I used to think that such a view betrayed ignorance of the natural flow of history, especially the tendency for centuries in America for a counter influence to set in when the pendulum has swung too far. Having lived for many years for part of each year in Germany, where there is essentially no concept of conservatism, I can now see that when the left seizes all the levers of society, the Academy, the media, the legislature, the Green movement, and the church, there is no coming back.


34 posted on 05/23/2008 11:24:31 PM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: Maelstorm

“we really don’t want a McCain presidency with both houses controlled by Democrats.”

Very good point. The economy, the whole country, would rapidly go to hell with a dem dominated legislature even if McCain as CIC far exceeded our feeble expectations. McCain, and by extension the GOP, would bear the brunt of public outrage over the parade of catastrophes a solidly democratic legislature would engineer for the nation. McCain’s popularity would end up much worse than Bush, Jr.’s

Unfortunately I have to support McCain in any event in hopes of keeping an outspoken and dangerous Marxist, and sympathizer with and enabler of America’s enemies, as far from the oval office as possible. Also, we obviously won’t be certain what the score in Congress will be until after the we’ve voted (or not voted).

It’ll be a dismal time if we lose any ground Congress. We’ll have an immitigable disaster if Barack Hussein wins in the general. Without any doubt that would prompt (together with myriad other dire consequences) swift resignations on the SCOTUS as aging leftist justices make room for like-minded, equally radical young successors.

God help us. Everyone who cares anymore needs to step up and help themselves and their country to ensure He does. I doubt anyone would disagree that this is the most important election, very likely, in the history of the world. Some conservatives really want to sit it out and withdraw support from the effort to keep Hussein (or Hillary) from the WH?

I understand and share the lack of enthusiasm right now. Why can’t conservatives unite NOW, even in the absence of candidate or party enthusiasm, in light of the imminent urgency, our resolve and our love for all that we’ll almost certainly lose otherwise? In one of Bill Whittle’s essays he described “pink”, emotion-driven personalities (visualize any Obama rally) vs. the cold, hard grey reality-driven types who create, make the world work and make everything leftists take for granted but would DIE without possible. The reality today, in my view, is the only logical course for any true conservative, aware of what’s at stake, is to put everything we have into the fight. Even (holding collective noses) voting for McCain.

Divided we’re sure to fall. The very worst case scenario looms and is a very real possibility. It doesn’t take a lot of imagination to visualize what we can expect if that happens.


35 posted on 05/23/2008 11:25:25 PM PDT by fire and forget
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To: GravityFree; Williams
Losing elections is the ONLY thing that will get their attention.

This sounds like one teenager telling another teenager, "Suicide is the ONLY thing that will get your parents attention".

36 posted on 05/23/2008 11:43:52 PM PDT by CardCarryingMember.VastRightWC
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To: GravityFree

“Obama holds employment to modest 11%”

Outstanding! Maybe after that, when everyone really is riding a bicycle and eating overpriced uncooked rice, only the media will still be eating out of his hands.

The thought flow here at FR is great (some thoughts aside) but maybe we should organize one or more think tanks. We might focus on crystalizing the very foreseeable consequences that would follow from each of the possible outcomes in November. Spell out conclusions every informed conservative will stipulate to and maybe be galvanized by. We’re only making things worse for ourselves and our country with all this divisiveness.


37 posted on 05/23/2008 11:44:42 PM PDT by fire and forget
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Guess everyone is so happy with $4.00/gal gasoline that they’re voting democRAT so they can have $8.00/gal gasoline.


38 posted on 05/23/2008 11:47:26 PM PDT by Mogollon (Vote straight GOP for congress....our only protection against Obama-Clinton, or McCain.)
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To: GravityFree
Headline from the summer of 2014 - Obama holds employment to modest 11%

Another headline from 2014:

Obama holds gasoline prices to new low - $1.99/gallon! ***
*** price does not include federal gasoline taxes of $17.77 per gallon

39 posted on 05/23/2008 11:53:10 PM PDT by CardCarryingMember.VastRightWC
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To: Williams

Dude,...you misred my note.

Mine was a reply to post 16. I had quotes around the previous posters comments. I should probably learn how to html tag stuff, so as to add clarity.

Regardless. I share your passion and sentiment. Your post to me is the reply that I first dreamed up for Mr. Vaseline before I stopped and counted to 10 drank a beer and stood on my head for 20 minutes.

I can’t stand McCain. It’s clear that 4 years of Obama would be an absolute disaster!!

I think such responses as that poster; “the we desrve what we get syndrome” may be something along the lines of the liberal version of “Operation Chaos”.

The difference is that conservatives aren’t as dumb as rocks.


40 posted on 05/24/2008 4:51:00 AM PDT by incredulous joe
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To: Free ThinkerNY

The G.O.P. has been acting like democrat lite for about 12 years.
RINOs and stupid big govt. spenders will not get my vote nor will supporters of amnesty.
Act like true conservatives and you will get my vote regardless of party.


41 posted on 05/24/2008 4:53:02 AM PDT by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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To: Mogollon
Guess everyone is so happy with $4.00/gal gasoline that they’re voting democRAT so they can have $8.00/gal gasoline.

And the Republicans will do exactly what about gas prices? Hell, your own candidate won't take the necessary steps to increase domestic production.

42 posted on 05/24/2008 5:00:31 AM PDT by nonliberal (Graduate: Curtis E. LeMay School of International Relations)
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To: nathanbedford

Good point of reference. In my mind, I always think of the English.
Is there any longer a conservative party in Great Britain? When do you think that they may ever return to power?? I know of conservative Brtis who are basically trying to get away from it altogether by moving to this country.

I believe our nation will become a european-styled socialist government with Democratic elections for Democrats and RINOS.

Mrs. Obama will take the cash directly from us to give to wacked out friends in academia, who will get rich on our money, while brainwashing our children.

It’s not worth it. I may actually get out there and work for Juan McCain, then live to fight in another 4 years.


43 posted on 05/24/2008 5:02:58 AM PDT by incredulous joe
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To: GravityFree
"Losing elections is the ONLY thing that will get their attention. If you’ve found something that’s a better “attention getter” I’m open to any suggestion you might make..."

Winning elections.

44 posted on 05/24/2008 6:26:20 AM PDT by Williams
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To: incredulous joe
My apology, I def was replying only to the part in quotes.

I have told the story before, I'll summarize here. In my town the republicans said EXACTLY the same thing when the democrats took over - they'll screw things up so bad people will be dying to elect us.

Well they were half right. Taxes are way up. Dems are corrupt as usual. Unfortunately, the republican party here is extinct, dems win every election in a walk over, republicans now hold zero seats on any town board. Last year the republican candidate for town council quit before the election.

The dems play for keeps and those who advocate giving them power so they can screw up the country, IMHO, are immoral.

45 posted on 05/24/2008 6:31:50 AM PDT by Williams
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To: apillar

I agree with your analysis. Obama is NOT going to be strong heading their ticket and anyone who doubts McCain and his attraction to a lot of voters has their head buried in the sand.

The following is for the naysayers that always look at the glass half empty:

You can win Congress without the major bucks if you are willing to get out and work for it. Too many lazy candidates. Walk a lot of doors, quit being on TV so much wasting money, and be smart with mailouts — don’t need three of the same mailout sent to my house — send it to the family not the individual.

For voters, donate straight to candidates and ignore RNC, NRSC, and NRCC. Then you will get the most bang for your buck. Also how about the naysayers rolling up their sleeves and donating their time to help get good candidates elected instead of whining all the time about how we are going to lose. We may lose but we will have go down fighting instead of the pity us because the candidates don’t match their choice 100%!

IOTW, I think Morris is full of himself and could care less what he has to say. All Congressional elections are local and it is time for people to quit talking about how they don’t like McCain and work to win the House and Senate seats we need to make a difference. I don’t agree McCain 100% but he is sure a lot better then the Alternative Obama who loves heads of state who support terrorism.

You want to see your tax dollars on the way to Africa and other 3rd world places? Then keep up the whining about what you don’t like and you will be able to witness it first hand.

Get off your computer and go volunteer to a local candidate. The national election will take care of itself but all of you need to help elect Republicans back to Congress. In PA we have three great women candidates for the House that need help because NRCC doesn’t know how to spend their money wisely. In fact, if they were rolling in money, women are not a priority to get that money when running.

Stop the whining and do something!

My two cents!


46 posted on 05/24/2008 6:47:09 AM PDT by PhiKapMom ( Broken Glass Republican -- http://democratsforsale.blogspot.com/ -- JUST SAY NO to OBAMA)
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To: Williams

That’s okay. I fully agree with your last paragraph. The GOP is flawed. The Death Cult Party is flat out wicked.

I like that whole “Go blank yourself” thing before I even had my first cup of coffee. I admit the original note riled me a bit, too. I think these “losers’ are a small minority. I don’t even really know that they’re true conservatives, and possibly trolls.

I done my moanin and groanin about McCain. I said that I’d NEVER vote for him and I’ll probably get a major nose plug between now and steping into the booth, but I do not plan on willingly turning over the keys of this country to Barry O.

It’s a lot more than just about the judges. We can get some stuff done with McCain, maybe the old maniac will even surprise us??


47 posted on 05/24/2008 8:29:28 AM PDT by incredulous joe
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To: Williams; incredulous joe; apillar; PhiKapMom; nathanbedford

My basic theory of operation is to believe NOTHING a public official says when seeking election or re-election. Study their record between elections to understand what they’ll do once in office. Why . . . I’ll call it the “prom night” syndrome and leave it at that. McCain tells us how he’s seen the light but you only have to look at McCain-Kennedy and McCain-Feingold to see the true nature of the beast. The Republicans will tell you that lettuce will be $10.00 per head if we halt illegal immigration. Yeah, just like crime will skyrocket if we permit concealed carry. The GOP is completely in the pocket of the US Chamber of Commerce and their “We like workers who are too terrified to complain crowd”. They complain they can’t build the fence because the virtual recognition software isn’t fully integrated with the system they plan to use. Hmmm . . . . . . . if I remember correctly there was a very effective fence in Europe and all it used was concrete, rebar and concertina wire. If they’re too STUPID to figure it our call the EAST GERMANS they probably still have the instructions ! ! !


48 posted on 05/24/2008 9:03:59 AM PDT by GravityFree (Death is not the end, nor the beginning of the end, but only the end of the beginning.)
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To: Just A Nobody

I say he should have vetoed it and called their bluff and made all 11 of them stand up and be counted as supporting something unconstitutional. That way there would have been something to hold over them when they campaigned for re-election


49 posted on 05/24/2008 9:22:56 AM PDT by GravityFree (Death is not the end, nor the beginning of the end, but only the end of the beginning.)
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To: GravityFree
I don't agree with Bush or McCain on immigration. Generally I don't understand where they're coming from. I don't know that it's all big business. I think there's also a big steaming pile of compassionate conservatism to blame.

Regardless, I'd prefer McCain to Obama, especially if the legislatures are going to be taken over by the Dems. Obama will have all those illegals voting in 2010 and I have a feeling that they won't be voting GOP. Some of the mods and indies would come over to our side, but it would be too little too late. You and your children will live in a socialist country and your vote won't count for doody-scoot stacked up against 3 votes per illegal.

I understand why you don't trust McCain, neither do I really. I just trust Barry 200% less. I'd rather have McCain pick the judges, lay off taxes and run the war. On the rest of the issues, such as immigration we are just going to have to beat the freakin' brow out of him; at a grass roots level, in what's left of conservatives in the house and through our voice in conservative media outlets.

Didn't you hear those quotes from Obama last week? Not driving our SUVs, eating as much as we want and keeping the temperature at 72? He's not making suggestions! He's not asking please. He's going to make us do whatever BIG government wants.

To be honest with ya, and at this stage, I really don't like McCains odds anyway. But I feel like I have little choice. I respect your right not to vote for him based on all of the issues that you cite, but I disagree with the reasoning that 4 years of Dem rule will slap the Republic back into shape.

4 years of Dem rule will turn the US into Los Angeles and the conquest of the Mexicans will be complete, just like in the Absolut ad. Except you and I won't be able to drink vodka, unless you know how to cook it up yourself. Get used to Corona.


50 posted on 05/24/2008 12:28:23 PM PDT by incredulous joe
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