Posted on 05/23/2008 7:40:15 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY
While Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) hangs in there, locked in a tough race with Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.), the Republican undercard is facing obliteration in the 2008 general elections for the Senate. Polling suggests that a massacre may be in the offing and one thats possibly even greater than the worst of previous GOP years: 1958, 1964, 1974, 1986 and 2006.
Scott Rasmussen, whose site, www.rasmussenreports.com, follows these races closely, is producing truly hair-raising polling data.
Of the open Republican Senate seats in contention, Democratic victory seems very likely in Virginia (Democratic former Gov. Mark Warner now has 55 percent, while fellow former Republican Gov. Jim Gilmore stands at 37) and New Mexico (where Democratic Rep. Tom Udall takes 53 percent to GOP Rep. Steve Pearces 37 and 57 percent to Republican Rep. Heather Wilsons 36). In Colorado, Democratic Rep. Mark Udall has a narrow lead over Republican Bob Schaffer (45-42). Nebraska would seem safely Republican, but a humongous black turnout in Mississippi could elect former Democratic Gov. Ronnie Musgrove, just as it led to a Democratic congressional victory in a bi-election this month. Score them: two Democrat, one leaning Democrat, one leaning Republican, and one Republican. A net loss of two or three seats.
And then there are the endangered incumbents. Three GOP senators are actually behind their Democratic challengers. Alaskas Ted Stevens is behind Mark Begich by 47-45. Elizabeth Dole trails Kay Hagan in North Carolina by 48-47. And Jeanne Shaheen is well ahead of John Sununu in New Hampshire, 51-43. Stevenss legal problems and the likely huge black turnout in North Carolina make all three states lean Democratic at this point.
Even when GOP incumbents lead, they are perilously under 50 percent. In Oregon, as of this writing, Gordon Smith leads Jeff Merkley by only 45-42 and Steve Novick by 47-41. And in Texas, John Cornyn leads Rick Noriega by only 47-43. In addition, Norm Coleman in Minnesota is hanging on by his teeth against Al Franken, 50-43; Susan Collins is only narrowly ahead of Rep. Tom Allen in Maine, 52-42; and in Kansas, Pat Roberts holds only a 52-40 lead over Jim Slattery. Mitch McConnell in Kentucky may also be in trouble.
So, among incumbents, score it three leaning Democratic, two tossups, and three leaning Republican.
Overall, thats a likely Democratic pickup of five seats, with an eight-seat gain possible, and, in a partisan wipeout, a 12-seat shift.
Mon dieu!
In all likelihood, the filibuster will still remain a theoretical Republican option, but, in practical terms, may be beyond reach, especially if Obama wins the White House.
Driving the GOPs imperiled Senate situation, or course, is a massive shift in party identification. While the two parties are normally about tied in party ID, the Democrats now enjoy a 44-30 advantage in the latest Fox News poll of April 29.A combination of the Iraq war, gas prices, the credit crisis and a looming recession are dragging down the Republican Party, big time.
So is a president with a 28 percent approval rating. Bush needs to go out and tell America that things are bad, but not that bad. There are solid signs that the economy may not be tanking after all. Unemployment, while rising, is still at historic lows. The credit crisis has not led to a wholesale collapse of the financial industry and the instability appears to be easing. And, in Iraq, we are approaching a more stable situation with lower combat deaths. Bush, who has largely been hunkered down in the White House, needs to hit the trail and move his ratings up into the mid- or high 30s, not an insurmountable challenge.
Will the endangered Republicans recover? Most have prevailed, in the past, by lifting their personal ratings out of possible danger early in the race. But when long-term incumbents find themselves mired in the high 40s or low 50s in vote share, it indicates a massive voter desire for change that is not likely to abate.
In the House, the incredible three Democratic bi-election victories, combined with the retirements of so many Republican incumbents, indicates that the GOP may be facing disaster there as well.
This is not a good year to be a Republican.
This story is not an overstatement by any means.
I see a 57 seat Senate for the dems and maybe more than that.
If we lose the filibuster in the Senate, we are screwed. Almost as bad as if McCain wins and pushes through his amnesty for illegals and other nonsense.
Kiss my ass.. in French.. Mon Deiu!
it’s not over until
the fat lady in a pantsuit fires her gun.
Dick Morris is just what he claims to be......
A Dick.
McCain just picked a guy to head his VP search who has donated in the past to McCain, Richard Lugar and Arlen Specter. We’re SCREWED from the top of the ticket on down.
was worried until I noticed the Dick Morris byline. He gets everything backwards.
Given the trend of current events, I have started making arrangements for my minor children to have the ability, schooling, and wherewithall to leave America itself.
I consider it a sort of “hedge.”
And that is nothing that I have ever even dreamed of in my entire life.
Thank you for your post - bill
It could be a good year to be a Republican. Jim Gilmore should be able to clean the clock of Warner who raised taxes and supports extremely liberal views. He also helped fund the effort to block the Virginia marriage ammendment.
http://hamptonroads.com/node/168941
Come on and help support a true conservative Jim Gilmore.
http://www.jimgilmoreforsenate.com/index.php
It will be our ability to deliver the Senate to the GOP that will determine how well we get our way on judges and other issues with McCain provided he wins.
We really don’t want a McCain presidency with both houses controled by Democrats. Get out the word. Mark Warner and most of the Democrats running are liberals. There are a lot of conservatives running nationwide. Quit griping about McCain and help conservatives win the day to keep McCain honest.
I think the toe-sucker has this one right.
One more thing, Isn’t it time for the bridge to nowhere Ted Stevens to retire in embarrassment? Just put up a conservative in Alaska and they will win. Why run the earmark retread? Isn’t Robert Byrd enough of a pork king without one of our own vying for the crown?
Dick meant to say: GOP Senate, House and Presidential Massacre of '08.
Unfortunately Dick might be right this time.
In other words, the GOP has time to make the changes they feel need to be made: they will undoubtedly see these numbers and conclude that their ties to conservatism are killing them.
They'll say, "It's obvious we need to be more like McCain if we want to succeed."
Which will only make the fall much worst then it looks now. Bye, bye freedom- hello socialism!!!

Is DC statehood a matter of passing a law or does that have to go to a Constitutional Amendment??
“I want the American electorate to be given exactly what they want good and hard for 2 to 4 years”
Careful what you wish for. If the Dems get that kind of power the Republic may be forever changed.
There may be no Conservative tide to return the adults to power.
So their behavior has nothing to do with it? Gee. How unlucky. </sarcasm>
My bet is when oil hits $500.00 per barrel and gasoline is $25.00 per gallon “the people” will be burning hippies to keep their homes warm and “drilling” every environmentalist in sight to find oil. Once the tide turns the politicians will follow the lead of the people ( that’s where the votes are ) and oil rigs will be sprouting like dandelions on a spring day.
Go blank yourself. My family and I deserve no such disasters, just because in your childish view of the World it will lead to someone else getting the "credit". The Supreme Court will be lost for thirty years. The millions of new "legal" citizens will ensure dem majorities for generations. The loss of life to terrorsist or maybe Chinese attacks could be in the millions.
Glad you're having fun though. Yeah we'll show them by losing elections this time. Brilliant.
The GOP richly deserves to have their a$$es kicked this fall. They’ve provided fodder to the liberals, they’ve ignored and even provoked their conservative base, and they act like a bunch of patricians. Since we can’t upset party rules to replace worn out incumbents then toos them all out this fall and perhaps we can get a new Newt Gingrich to bring the party back to its senses in 2010.
Losing elections is the ONLY thing that will get their attention. If you’ve found something that’s a better “attention getter” I’m open to any suggestion you might make.
The Republican Party, circa 2008: pro-amnesty for illegal aliens... steadfastly refusing to take serious action on earmarks and rampant government spending... running a naked and unapologetic liberal as their candidate for the office of the U.S. Presidency...
The old maxim "actions have consequences" does inevitably occur to one, here.
Well how mature you have grown up to be!
Why would you use such references in a political forum? Is that the same things you said about the Dems in the previous elections where they were about to lost big?
Now turn off the lights before the baby sitter gets mad.
Yeah. If only some major political party were actually willing to run a candidate dedicated (or even moderately interested) to preventing that from happening. Might actually manage to scare up a little in way of genuine support from the conservative voting base, that fellah.
Oh, well.
btt
I must confess to more than just a little pent up, blazing, white hot, anger. McCain & Kennedy both tried to sell us down the river with the Amnesty Bill. Jorge Bush signed McCain-Feingold after acknowledging it was unconstitutional. The GOP squandered a perfectly good majority they had since 1994 by saying no to no one and spending money as fast as the US Treasury could print it. Still by some miracle the economy continues to chug along and the Mexican drug gangs haven’t tried to takeover the southwest . . . yet.
I so heartily agree!
Yep, after handing it to the President with a near veto proof majority.
There were 11 back benchers waiting to jump to attention if necessary to override a veto.
AP-Today the U.S. Department of Labor released the revised unemployment figures for the first quarter of 2014 and unemployment continues to hold steady for the third consecutive quarter at a relatively modest 11%.President Obama's council of economic advisors are forecasting substantial economic growth of 0.1% to 0.2% to begin either during the fourth quarter of 2014 or early in the first quarter of 2015. The President remains optimistic about the economic future of the United States and promises to hold inflation in check at or below its current level of 23%.
The Republican Party could change its official name to “Log Cabin Republican Party” and would only be slightly worse off.
I used to think that such a view betrayed ignorance of the natural flow of history, especially the tendency for centuries in America for a counter influence to set in when the pendulum has swung too far. Having lived for many years for part of each year in Germany, where there is essentially no concept of conservatism, I can now see that when the left seizes all the levers of society, the Academy, the media, the legislature, the Green movement, and the church, there is no coming back.
“we really don’t want a McCain presidency with both houses controlled by Democrats.”
Very good point. The economy, the whole country, would rapidly go to hell with a dem dominated legislature even if McCain as CIC far exceeded our feeble expectations. McCain, and by extension the GOP, would bear the brunt of public outrage over the parade of catastrophes a solidly democratic legislature would engineer for the nation. McCain’s popularity would end up much worse than Bush, Jr.’s
Unfortunately I have to support McCain in any event in hopes of keeping an outspoken and dangerous Marxist, and sympathizer with and enabler of America’s enemies, as far from the oval office as possible. Also, we obviously won’t be certain what the score in Congress will be until after the we’ve voted (or not voted).
It’ll be a dismal time if we lose any ground Congress. We’ll have an immitigable disaster if Barack Hussein wins in the general. Without any doubt that would prompt (together with myriad other dire consequences) swift resignations on the SCOTUS as aging leftist justices make room for like-minded, equally radical young successors.
God help us. Everyone who cares anymore needs to step up and help themselves and their country to ensure He does. I doubt anyone would disagree that this is the most important election, very likely, in the history of the world. Some conservatives really want to sit it out and withdraw support from the effort to keep Hussein (or Hillary) from the WH?
I understand and share the lack of enthusiasm right now. Why can’t conservatives unite NOW, even in the absence of candidate or party enthusiasm, in light of the imminent urgency, our resolve and our love for all that we’ll almost certainly lose otherwise? In one of Bill Whittle’s essays he described “pink”, emotion-driven personalities (visualize any Obama rally) vs. the cold, hard grey reality-driven types who create, make the world work and make everything leftists take for granted but would DIE without possible. The reality today, in my view, is the only logical course for any true conservative, aware of what’s at stake, is to put everything we have into the fight. Even (holding collective noses) voting for McCain.
Divided we’re sure to fall. The very worst case scenario looms and is a very real possibility. It doesn’t take a lot of imagination to visualize what we can expect if that happens.
This sounds like one teenager telling another teenager, "Suicide is the ONLY thing that will get your parents attention".
“Obama holds employment to modest 11%”
Outstanding! Maybe after that, when everyone really is riding a bicycle and eating overpriced uncooked rice, only the media will still be eating out of his hands.
The thought flow here at FR is great (some thoughts aside) but maybe we should organize one or more think tanks. We might focus on crystalizing the very foreseeable consequences that would follow from each of the possible outcomes in November. Spell out conclusions every informed conservative will stipulate to and maybe be galvanized by. We’re only making things worse for ourselves and our country with all this divisiveness.
Guess everyone is so happy with $4.00/gal gasoline that they’re voting democRAT so they can have $8.00/gal gasoline.
Another headline from 2014:
Obama holds gasoline prices to new low - $1.99/gallon! ***
*** price does not include federal gasoline taxes of $17.77 per gallon
Dude,...you misred my note.
Mine was a reply to post 16. I had quotes around the previous posters comments. I should probably learn how to html tag stuff, so as to add clarity.
Regardless. I share your passion and sentiment. Your post to me is the reply that I first dreamed up for Mr. Vaseline before I stopped and counted to 10 drank a beer and stood on my head for 20 minutes.
I can’t stand McCain. It’s clear that 4 years of Obama would be an absolute disaster!!
I think such responses as that poster; “the we desrve what we get syndrome” may be something along the lines of the liberal version of “Operation Chaos”.
The difference is that conservatives aren’t as dumb as rocks.
The G.O.P. has been acting like democrat lite for about 12 years.
RINOs and stupid big govt. spenders will not get my vote nor will supporters of amnesty.
Act like true conservatives and you will get my vote regardless of party.
And the Republicans will do exactly what about gas prices? Hell, your own candidate won't take the necessary steps to increase domestic production.
Good point of reference. In my mind, I always think of the English.
Is there any longer a conservative party in Great Britain? When do you think that they may ever return to power?? I know of conservative Brtis who are basically trying to get away from it altogether by moving to this country.
I believe our nation will become a european-styled socialist government with Democratic elections for Democrats and RINOS.
Mrs. Obama will take the cash directly from us to give to wacked out friends in academia, who will get rich on our money, while brainwashing our children.
It’s not worth it. I may actually get out there and work for Juan McCain, then live to fight in another 4 years.
Winning elections.
I have told the story before, I'll summarize here. In my town the republicans said EXACTLY the same thing when the democrats took over - they'll screw things up so bad people will be dying to elect us.
Well they were half right. Taxes are way up. Dems are corrupt as usual. Unfortunately, the republican party here is extinct, dems win every election in a walk over, republicans now hold zero seats on any town board. Last year the republican candidate for town council quit before the election.
The dems play for keeps and those who advocate giving them power so they can screw up the country, IMHO, are immoral.
I agree with your analysis. Obama is NOT going to be strong heading their ticket and anyone who doubts McCain and his attraction to a lot of voters has their head buried in the sand.
The following is for the naysayers that always look at the glass half empty:
You can win Congress without the major bucks if you are willing to get out and work for it. Too many lazy candidates. Walk a lot of doors, quit being on TV so much wasting money, and be smart with mailouts — don’t need three of the same mailout sent to my house — send it to the family not the individual.
For voters, donate straight to candidates and ignore RNC, NRSC, and NRCC. Then you will get the most bang for your buck. Also how about the naysayers rolling up their sleeves and donating their time to help get good candidates elected instead of whining all the time about how we are going to lose. We may lose but we will have go down fighting instead of the pity us because the candidates don’t match their choice 100%!
IOTW, I think Morris is full of himself and could care less what he has to say. All Congressional elections are local and it is time for people to quit talking about how they don’t like McCain and work to win the House and Senate seats we need to make a difference. I don’t agree McCain 100% but he is sure a lot better then the Alternative Obama who loves heads of state who support terrorism.
You want to see your tax dollars on the way to Africa and other 3rd world places? Then keep up the whining about what you don’t like and you will be able to witness it first hand.
Get off your computer and go volunteer to a local candidate. The national election will take care of itself but all of you need to help elect Republicans back to Congress. In PA we have three great women candidates for the House that need help because NRCC doesn’t know how to spend their money wisely. In fact, if they were rolling in money, women are not a priority to get that money when running.
Stop the whining and do something!
My two cents!
That’s okay. I fully agree with your last paragraph. The GOP is flawed. The Death Cult Party is flat out wicked.
I like that whole “Go blank yourself” thing before I even had my first cup of coffee. I admit the original note riled me a bit, too. I think these “losers’ are a small minority. I don’t even really know that they’re true conservatives, and possibly trolls.
I done my moanin and groanin about McCain. I said that I’d NEVER vote for him and I’ll probably get a major nose plug between now and steping into the booth, but I do not plan on willingly turning over the keys of this country to Barry O.
It’s a lot more than just about the judges. We can get some stuff done with McCain, maybe the old maniac will even surprise us??
My basic theory of operation is to believe NOTHING a public official says when seeking election or re-election. Study their record between elections to understand what they’ll do once in office. Why . . . I’ll call it the “prom night” syndrome and leave it at that. McCain tells us how he’s seen the light but you only have to look at McCain-Kennedy and McCain-Feingold to see the true nature of the beast. The Republicans will tell you that lettuce will be $10.00 per head if we halt illegal immigration. Yeah, just like crime will skyrocket if we permit concealed carry. The GOP is completely in the pocket of the US Chamber of Commerce and their “We like workers who are too terrified to complain crowd”. They complain they can’t build the fence because the virtual recognition software isn’t fully integrated with the system they plan to use. Hmmm . . . . . . . if I remember correctly there was a very effective fence in Europe and all it used was concrete, rebar and concertina wire. If they’re too STUPID to figure it our call the EAST GERMANS they probably still have the instructions ! ! !
I say he should have vetoed it and called their bluff and made all 11 of them stand up and be counted as supporting something unconstitutional. That way there would have been something to hold over them when they campaigned for re-election
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