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IOWA REMINDS DEMS WHITES WILL BACK BARACK
nypost.com ^ | May 21, 2008 | Charles Hurt

Posted on 05/22/2008 9:41:12 AM PDT by Free ThinkerNY

DES MOINES, Iowa - Barack Obama shied away from triumphantly proclaiming total victory over Hillary Rodham Clinton last night, but he certainly annihilated the central reason she gives for staying in the race.

The Clinton team claims that Sen. Obama is nothing more than a black candidate with a sidecar of liberal academics.

This is why, the Clintons argue, white Democrats in working-class and rural states simply can't pull the lever for this black guy with a foreign-sounding name.

And, the Clinton's implied reasoning goes, since she appeals so much to these racist white Democrats that are the "backbone" of the party, she would make a much better nominee against Republican Sen. John McCain.

So what about the claim that because of opposition from working-class white Democrats, Obama can't win in November?

It is hard to imagine that the hostility of these white voters would be quite so stark had Sen. Clinton not spent the past four months campaigning on precisely this schism.

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Politics/Elections; US: Iowa
KEYWORDS: blackvote; hillary; ia2008; mccain; obama; whitevote

1 posted on 05/22/2008 9:41:12 AM PDT by Free ThinkerNY
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To: Free ThinkerNY

No mention of all the primaries in which Hillary’s claim has proved correct.


2 posted on 05/22/2008 9:44:58 AM PDT by lexusppd
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To: Free ThinkerNY

let’s have an Iowa do-over, this time with the voters knowledge of ayers, wright, not covering his heart, flag pin, muslim background (regardless what he calls himself now) etc..etc..

betcha he doesn’t do as well..


3 posted on 05/22/2008 9:45:00 AM PDT by GeorgiaDawg32 (www.liberallunacy.bravehost.com..I'm a Patriot Guard Rider. www.patriotguard.org for info.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Of course Iowa voted BW. Before Wright.


4 posted on 05/22/2008 9:45:31 AM PDT by Patrick1
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Sorry. A state that repeatedly elects Tom Harkin and Chuck Grassley to the U.S. Senate is NOT a reliable bellwether for how ordinary, bitter, religion-clinging, gun-loving, hard-working whites will vote.


5 posted on 05/22/2008 9:45:41 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (La Raza hates white folks. And John McCain loves La Raza!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

We know a little more about Barry now. He’s had a chance to tell us what his plans are. Things have changed since Iowa.

Barry will probably have trouble in Iowa in the election.


6 posted on 05/22/2008 9:47:05 AM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: Free ThinkerNY

A. The election was before anyone knew Obama

B. Iowa is the most ridiculous state to vote first


7 posted on 05/22/2008 9:47:13 AM PDT by Retired Greyhound
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To: Free ThinkerNY
The Iowa caucus happened well before Obama’s connections to black supremacists like his own Rev. Wright and terrorists was known.

Oregon is the only state Obama has won with a wide margin since Hillary's surrogates planted those stories in the MSM.

8 posted on 05/22/2008 9:47:51 AM PDT by Paleo Conservative (1984 was supposed to be a warning not an instruction manual! ©)
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To: GeorgiaDawg32
et’s have an Iowa do-over, this time with the voters knowledge of ayers, wright, not covering his heart, flag pin, . . .


9 posted on 05/22/2008 9:48:19 AM PDT by Mike Bates (Irish Alzheimer's victim: I only remember the grudges.)
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To: Mike Bates

I thought Hussein put his flag pin on upside down.


10 posted on 05/22/2008 9:51:16 AM PDT by Paleo Conservative (1984 was supposed to be a warning not an instruction manual! ©)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I’m sick of all this white/black crap. I’ll vote for a person with absolutely no interest in any white/black/man/woman crap. Enough! We are going to be called racist if Obama loses, and sexist is Clinton loses.
I’m fed up with it! I would have voted for Alan Keyes in a heartbeat.


11 posted on 05/22/2008 9:54:17 AM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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To: Free ThinkerNY

IMO it’s a mistake to assume that the IA caucus results are representative of how white voters feel about Bambi. The IA caucuses are public; everyone in the room knows how you vote. People have been known to behave differently in the privacy of a voting booth vs. when their vote is known to others. The Bradley effect is a good example of this.


12 posted on 05/22/2008 9:54:24 AM PDT by freespirited
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To: Free ThinkerNY
An EMPTY SUIT of any color (suit and person) is not a qualified candidate for CIC:-()

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13 posted on 05/22/2008 9:54:50 AM PDT by geo40xyz (McCain, Obama or Hillarybeast possibility of 4 Supreme Court Justices, Gore @UN. The WINNER is?)
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

Hold a primary in Iowa and see if Obama wins. I agree.


14 posted on 05/22/2008 10:00:03 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (If you liked Carter and you like Kennedy, you'll love Obama.)
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To: lexusppd
Obama's inspired choice of venue last night - Des Moines - reminded everyone that once upon a time before the Wright and Ayers fiascos, rural and working-class white Democrats were pretty eager to get behind him as an agent of complete change in Washington.

Here in Iowa, where blacks make up less than three percent of the population, Democrats in January before the Wright and Ayers fiascos overwhelmingly chose an untested black man over the well-known Queen of the Party.

There, fixed it

15 posted on 05/22/2008 10:02:44 AM PDT by tx_eggman (Privatizing profits and socializing losses is no way to run an economy)
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To: Mike Bates

you gave him the wrong flag..you need to photoshop the flag with 57 states..


16 posted on 05/22/2008 10:09:39 AM PDT by GeorgiaDawg32 (www.liberallunacy.bravehost.com..I'm a Patriot Guard Rider. www.patriotguard.org for info.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

20,000 votes in Iowa. Barack CAN get SOME whites to vote for him, especially the really liberal ones. He’s got the anti-war, radical vote, and the liberal white guilt vote.

His problem is with the working class middle-american democrat white vote. He does well where they aren’t a big factor, like Oregon, and where the Dems use a caucus, since they can overcome the opposition with the more-involved and often under-employed liberal whites.


17 posted on 05/22/2008 10:09:54 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I hope the party leaders buy Charles Hurt’s screed so Charles Hurt can learn the truth come Nov.


18 posted on 05/22/2008 10:09:56 AM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Iowa was a caucus state, not a primary state. Hillary’s supporters were less able to take the time than the collection of students and other academics who make up Obama’s base.


19 posted on 05/22/2008 10:12:14 AM PDT by MovementConservative (John Roberts and Sam Alito.... Thank you GWB)
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To: Patrick1
Of course Iowa voted BW. Before Wright.

And, as I recall, was at a time when the consensus that Hillary! could not win the general. Voters flocked to the alternative, an unvetted B-HO.

20 posted on 05/22/2008 10:12:50 AM PDT by Loyal Buckeye
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Iowa and New Hampshire and Michigan and Floriduh also show that Democrats will back McCain. < /sarcasm >


21 posted on 05/22/2008 10:27:43 AM PDT by weegee (We cant keep our homes on 72 at all times & just expect that other countries are going to say OK -BO)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Iowa used to be a great place, but over the years became merely tolerable... now it is a cheerless place run by the NEA, contractors building state projects, and Big Ag.

(Big Ag isn't just ADM, VeraSun and ConAgra. There are "family farms" which are the American equivalent of an East Prussian fiefdom.)

Expecting common sense from the 'rats in this dump is as delusional as expecting effort from a 'pub.

Mr. niteowl77

22 posted on 05/22/2008 10:32:46 AM PDT by niteowl77
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To: Free ThinkerNY
This is why, the Clintons argue, white Democrats in working-class and rural states simply can't pull the lever for this black guy with a foreign-sounding name.

Um....an enemy-sounding name. A John Hitler Smith wouldn't have done so well against Eisenhower in 1952, either. ;)

23 posted on 05/22/2008 10:42:32 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("One man's 'magic' is another man's engineering. 'Supernatural' is a null word." -- Robert Heinlein)
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To: Leftism is Mentally Deranged
I’m sick of all this white/black crap. I’ll vote for a person with absolutely no interest in any white/black/man/woman crap.

Sing it, Bro!

In my 40 years of voting, spread over three states, I have voted for white, black, Asian, and Hispanic candidates of both genders.

Never voted for a Native American that I can remember, but don't ever remember having one on any of my ballots, either.

I'll hold my nose, and vote for McCain, but not because we are both angry old white men, with skin cancer scars!

24 posted on 05/22/2008 10:46:26 AM PDT by ApplegateRanch (The Great Obamanation of Desolation, attempting to sit in the Oval Office, where he ought not..)
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To: Paleo Conservative
I thought Hussein put his flag pin on upside down.

He probably does, but in the privacy of the Obama mansion. Something tells me Michelle wouldn't beef about it.

25 posted on 05/22/2008 11:23:24 AM PDT by Mike Bates (Irish Alzheimer's victim: I only remember the grudges.)
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To: GeorgiaDawg32
you gave him the wrong flag..you need to photoshop the flag with 57 states..

Like everything else, that was not - repeat, not - B. Hussein's fault. Those darn staffers feeding him bogus info. . . .

26 posted on 05/22/2008 11:25:30 AM PDT by Mike Bates (Irish Alzheimer's victim: I only remember the grudges.)
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To: ApplegateRanch

Actually, the Republican candidate against Herseth in SD in 2006 was Native American.


27 posted on 05/22/2008 11:28:35 AM PDT by MinnesotaLibertarian
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To: MinnesotaLibertarian
Then I did vote for a N.A.; just proves how little race,color, etc means relative to beliefs, policy, & creed.
28 posted on 05/22/2008 11:40:34 AM PDT by ApplegateRanch (The Great Obamanation of Desolation, attempting to sit in the Oval Office, where he ought not..)
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To: lexusppd

Iowa was a caucus. At night in mid-January in Iowa. It doesn’t prove much except about the politically obsessed who participate. Obama has completely overperformed in caucus states, and underperfomed in primaries.


29 posted on 05/22/2008 11:44:06 AM PDT by Jack Black
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To: tx_eggman

Right, I forgot about the timing.

Thanks


30 posted on 05/22/2008 1:38:27 PM PDT by lexusppd
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Did you guys hear RUSH LIMBAUGH today. He was really propping up HILLARY. Rush was telling a caller that if you’ve acquired a lot of common sense in your life and you’re certainly smart and that is precisely the vote that Mrs. Clinton gets and owns and there are a lot of people like that.

Sounds to me like RUSH might have some fond feelings for the Hildabeast. I’m starting to think that Rush dreams of life with the Hildabeast. After the election, Hillary dumps Bill and goes with Rush.

Thats right, you heard it here first. I’m the first to see it developing and I am taking credit for when it happens.


31 posted on 05/22/2008 4:34:32 PM PDT by UglyinLA
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To: UglyinLA

This is the future of America, not a soap opera.

E-mail your opinion to Oprah.


32 posted on 05/22/2008 7:32:37 PM PDT by Hilltop (Control the high ground. Control the battlefield.)
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To: Leftism is Mentally Deranged

I’m fed up with it! I would have voted for Alan Keyes in a heartbeat.

How do I get set up for Alan Keyes pings?


33 posted on 05/22/2008 9:04:15 PM PDT by ehit88 (I'm(not anymore)shoveling snow while a Cubs game is on?????(my Alan Keyes t-shirts are on order))
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