Posted on 05/21/2008 4:24:37 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
Karl Rove, now a political analyst and contributor for Fox News, Newsweek, and The Wall Street Journal, believes the Democratic nomination will go to Sen. Barack Obama, but Rove is amazed that Obama cant put Hillary Clinton away.
Its awfully close, he told the cast of "Fox & Friends" this morning on the Fox News Channel, and yet, he cant put it away, Rove says.
I think what [Obama] saw in Oregon was the rumor that the polls were closing, and thats why he spent most of last weekend in Oregon rather than going on the offensive and trying to take away something in Kentucky, Rove says.
Its like, he only gets 30 percent of the vote in Kentucky, but feels compelled to go to Oregon. And even then, in that state, which is full of granola eaters and Birkenstock wearers, he gets 58 percent of the vote, and she gets 42 percent.
Rove added, The problems that Barack Obama has with working class voters are real, and theyre not going away. Its cultural. They view him as an elitist as somebody whos condescending and doesnt share their values.
Also, in Roves opinion, Obama should not have gone to Iowa last night and said, Ive got a majority of the elected delegates. Let somebody else do that. He should have focused on substance, not try to say, [look at me], Im ahead.
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Rove is a very interesting analyst. I pretty much like to hear whatever he has to say. He states facts and is clear in his thinking, unlike the sissy democrat “analysts.”
Hillary said today she is taking her attempt to seat the disputed delegates to the convention. My guess is she will do exactly that.
“And even then, in that state, which is full of granola eaters and Birkenstock wearers...”
Is this satire, or did he really say that?
Rove is right, Hussein is an idiot. The Dems are fooling themselves if they think Obama can win in November. Obama has the hard lefties & black vote locked up. Now its the other 75% of the voters he will have problems with winning over.
Unless they figger a way to stop her before August. I hope they don't.
This board is conflicted about this, but I say:
I am VERY worried about Obama winning in ‘08.
I know Hillary is shrewd and cunning, but I would STILL rather her win than Hussein.
The fact that Obama will most likely be the nominee makes me support McCain all the more (which I’m sure McCain is counting on).
Read my tagline.
Everyone who supports Israel needs to vote for McCain even if you loathe him.
“Rove is right, Hussein is an idiot. The Dems are fooling themselves if they think Obama can win in November.”
I really hope you are right.
It's the truth!
Rove was equally amazed the GOP lost so many house and Senate seats in 2006. Even Ted Williams failed to get a hit 6 or 7 times out of 10. Even Neil Armstrong missed a word or two as he stepped on the moon. Even some Hillary Clinton supporters still think she has a lock on the nomination.
Snortin’ Barry Obama has put it away, long ago. She just won’t lie down.
Yep...the Clintons will soon be taking their party to court.
I think the RATS would prefer to gouge their own eyeballs out than embrace any Republican rule such as seating half the delegates because of violation. Since Obama isn’t a stand-up guy in the first place, there’s absolutely no reason to expect him to show leadership in this situation.
Or any situation for that matter.
Rove and the RNC misread 2006 terribly. Hope he’s got a better handle on this election.
Uberliberals just love Barry.
To have her win the popular vote but lose the nomination would be incredibly useful for convincing Dems to stay home, or even crossover. Shaping up to be very interesting.
I felt the same way a few months ago, but since then, I've seen Barry O stumble. He doesn't walk on the same water in May that he did in January. But then, the lake was frozen, wasn't it?
If he limps into the White House, he will have to deal with:
1) No more RINOs to cozy up to, all that will remain of Republicans generally are the rock-ribbed, who will be tasked with the job of opposing everything he does.
2) Hillaryite feminazis who want him to fail so their 'girl' can say a big fat, "I told you so!"
3) The far left, who will be flat-out opposition to him when he does not withdraw half of the troops from Iraq within the first hundred days of his administration.
4) The idealistic dreamers who thought that just by chanting the word "Change" enough times, you could stop political bickering, make the price of oil come down, restore American jobs, have peace guide the planets, and love rule the stars.
He's going to have a damned rough time of it, and will set the table for the grown-ups (true conservative Republicans) to take over, starting with the 2010 mid-term elections.
Everyone who supports Israel needs to vote for McCain even if you loathe him.
Won't make a difference in my case, I live and vote in NY, where even Jerimiah Wright would get the state's electoral votes if he were the Rat candidate this year. Also, if Israel decides that Barry O is unable to stand by them, they nuke Tehran, something even Bush and McCain would never have the testicular fortitude to do. That's one less target for a true conservative President to hit in 2013!
I agree with you 100%. We know what to expect from Hillary. I think Obama is a great white shark in guppy clothing. I see him as extremely dangerous.
another 8 years of your clintons
and i’ll puke!
Obama is the anti-christ plain and simple.Things like his being worshipped just dont happen by chance. Something evil this way comin!
Obama is touting her effort and resilience. Well, he's already in on the plan when the Superdelegates nominate her (surprise!, not) where he'll graciously accept VP (they tipped their hand with the former 'offer'). The blacks leaving the plantation will suddenly find themselves buying a return ticket.
This will buy "unity" that not even a Nader can put asunder. (ironically, this will be the nadir moment in our nation's history). Since it's the Democrat's "turn" to serve in this game of politics, McCain will have to pull a rabbit outta his *ss to win in November. "Hey Rocky, watch me pull a rabbit outta my....."
Their solution is to pressure the two of them to kiss and make up, with Hillary taking the Veep slot. It could be a tough ticket to beat.
Great points.
Reminiscent of Al Gore's 2000 popular vote "victory" yet President Bush gaining the White House. Pray tell, how do they explain how that was "bad" in 2000 but okay in 2008?
See my tagline, as well...
I predicted that here about 3 weeks ago. 2000 all over again. And that’s why I don’t think they’ll (The Clintons)try again in 2012 the way some are already espousing. The longer they fight, the more people they piss off. I think they realize it’s now or never.
Quite the pickle no? Much gnashing of teeth and baying at the moon would ensue, with lots of hurt feelings. And the more hurt feelings, the more Dems who stay home.
What does this mean? Even Dems realize Obama is unelectable.
Close. Now reverse the ticket.
You're getting hotter. Remember the movie "The Sting"? The end to this primary will satisfy the Clintons.
If Hillary ends up the candidate, we still have a LOT to thank her for. The horror that is Obama she will have vanquished.
Add to this what I am STILL saying. Obama has NO BALLS. Some may say that he knew better than to contest Kentucky. But I say, you may think you know where to pick your battles, but the problem is you don’t always have the choice when it comes to international relations (aka Iran). All the ass kissing, the phony stands, the pretense at being tough. I need to puke.
The next four years, we will need, desperately, somebody who has balls, and is willing to cut balls off. Obama absolutely does not qualify in that regard. Sorry guys, Hillary does. McCain, maybe. Now, I am not so sure with the revelation that he did not even know that his campaign manager was a liberal democrat!!!!???!!! God help us all.
I heard on a cut on the radio a little while ago where Hillary said of the Michigan and Florida primary voters that if the Democrats don’t want their votes, maybe John McCain will.
She might end up being John McCain’s VP pick.
Recall that, after the 2000 debacle, Hillary said she'd introduce legislation as senator from New York to abolish the Electoral College. (If you had to abolish a college, I can think of a few higher on the list.)
I'm not surprised that Rove is "amazed"... After all, he and Bush couldn't manage to "put Gore or Kerry away" either. Each of those elections should have been blow-outs, yet Rove and Bush only managed to squeak by and nearly lost them both...
And speaking of the MSM, why don't we seize the opportunity provided by the MSM's deification of Obama to permanently de-claw the IRS and get God back into the public school classrooms?
After all, not only will the next president automatically have war-time, Commander in Chief responsibilities, but this post (<-click), while addressing taxes, helps to explain why rookie government "leaders" like Obama are actually in contempt of the Constitution that they have sworn to defend, foolishly following in the footsteps of FDR's dirty federal spending politics.
In fact, the article referenced below shows that Obama is the #1 federal spending proposer in the Senate for '08; Clinton is #2.
Obama, a big-shot federal spenderAnd this post (<-click) exposes how corrupt justices then began using FDR's politically correct license to ignore the 10th A. to unlawfully stifle traditional family values, including the USSC's scandalous legalization of abortion in Roe v. Wade. Note that the post first references two non-abortion cases in order to show Roe v. Wade in a different, troubling perspective.
In fact, consider that the states have the constitutional power (10th A.) to authorize public schools to lead non-mandatory (14th A.) classroom discussions on the pros and cons of evolution, creationism and ID, as examples, regardless that atheists, separatists, pagan-minded judges and the MSM are misleading the people to think that doing such things in public schools is unconstitutional.
The people need to reconnect with the Founder's division of federal and state government powers. The people then need to wise up to the major problems that, since the days of FDR's dirty politics, Congress has not only not been operating within the restraints of the federal Constitution, particularly where constitutionally unauthorized federal spending is concerned, but the USSC has wrongly been ignoring the 10th A. protected power of the states to address religious issues.
The bottom line is that the people need to get in the faces of judges, demanding that judges uphold their oaths to defend the 10th A. protected powers of the states to address religious issues - or get off the bench. The people also need to send big-shot, Constitution-ignoring federal spenders like Obama home as opposed to trying to send people like him to the Oval Office. The people need to get in the faces of members of Congress, demanding a stop to constitutionally unauthorized federal spending while appropriately lowering federal taxes - or get out of DC.
Lincoln put it this way.
"We the People are the rightful master of both congress and the courts - not to overthrow the Constitution, but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution." --Abraham Lincoln, Political debates between Lincoln and Douglas, 1858.
Awesome video:
The same kind of terrorists who support Obama did this:
http://www.frugalsites.net/911/attack/
Never apologize for them.
Never appease them.
Never forget.
Duh Karl, Bill has been trying to put the woman away for years. He never has acheived that. Why would you think a beaten down by his wife guy, like Obama could? Michelle is wearing the pants and running the show. Barry is a speaker only.
I am no Hillary fan, but hey, she knows many people hate her and she keeps on ticking like the energizer bunny.
If nothing else, she is a formidable opponent.
Obama has already lost the popular vote. The Democrats took away the delegates but they can't negate the vote.
What the heck is that picture? A hippy convention?
The next 4 years will be brutal for whoever wins in November. While I think Obama would fall on his smug face, because it will be no time to implement his policies of wealth redistribution all over the nation and the globe, he could do a lot of damage with his radical ideology from which we may never recover. If McCain wins, it WILL be GWB term 3, he’ll get the blame for oil prices and a sinking economy. BHO will have 4 more years of experience and a big ‘I told you so’ will sweep him into office in a far better position to stage his revolution. Hillary might be our best bet, as a 1 term president who has enough cojones to nuke somebody who really needs it. What was that Dolores Claiborne quote? “Sometimes being a b1tch is all a woman has to hang on to...”
You know, that time keeps coming and going. In fact, that happens a few times a day.
Nobody’s picked up the reigns from Henry Bowman.
So true, A-10. The thought of someone like this placing his hand on a bible (or Koran, or Mad Magazine for that matter) and 'swearing' to defend a document he'd rather use as a doormat is very troubling.
I await a bolt of lightning to strike those who take lightly the honor bestowed upon them, whose duty it is to implement the genius behind this country's founding and to follow it to the letter.
obama must have balls,
or he wouldn’t have
produced those kids!
When Hillary says something—she means it. I believe she hates Obama with a purple passion and will all in her power to keep him from the White House even if it wrecks the Dimocrat party, her own changes, and everything else.
LOL! The media loves Obama and, was it the Dems "turn" in '84? Had Regean done his 'eight' years? See, something's going on behind the scene we just don't get yet. We're being Three Card Monteyed.
$4.00/gal gas, home value bubble popped, war with Iran..err, Al Queda,err Hezbolla..err, Hamas..err, the whole middle east (where the oil comes from). Inflation about to raise it's ugly head. Butt, Gay marriage is now legal in California (again).
Times have changed. The candidates have adapted as well. It'll be Clinton/BHO or my name isn't Coorswiesest.
I know a lot of oregonians. They are mostly ex-Kalfornia and dress like that in the hope that it will stop the rain. Sort of like a reverse rain dance.
I mentioned that movie about a month ago on a thread. I tend to agree with you. It seems like the only logical way they...
...have a chance to win the presidency
...continue this un-ending propagandist coverage, imprinting the electorate & effectively shutting out ANY message McCain & his veep may have...
...give their shallow-minded, sycophantic supporters a reason-for-living, we-are-the-world orgasm.
It would be the greatest sting in the history of politics on planet earth.
What I find alarming is that the media (mainstream) is firmly in Obama’s corner. He is supposed to be a politician and does not know how to use the media to his advantage. This is the same guy that wants to be the leader of the Free World?
It is disturbing that he is not even utilizing resources that are right in front of him, which is a sign of solid management and leadership (sarcasm intended).
Well...you need to think about MO, Hussein’s loud mouthed Jerimah wright loving other half.
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