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'Squawk Box' Guest Warns of $12-15-a-Gallon Gas
businessandmedia.org ^ | May 21, 2008 | Jeff Poor

Posted on 05/21/2008 12:47:05 PM PDT by Rufus2007

It may be the mother of all doom and gloom gas price predictions: $12 for a gallon of gas is “inevitable.”

Robert Hirsch, Management Information Services Senior Energy Advisor, gave a dire warning about the potential future of gas prices on CNBC’s May 20 “Squawk Box”. He told host Becky Quick there was no single thing that would solve the problem, due to the enormity of the problem.

“[T]he prices that we’re paying at the pump today are, I think, going to be ‘the good old days,’ because others who watch this very closely forecast that we’re going to be hitting $12 and $15 per gallon,” Hirsch said. “And then, after that, when oil – world oil production goes into decline, we’re going to talk about rationing. In other words, not only are we going to be paying high prices and have considerable economic problems, but in addition to that, we’re not going to be able to get the fuel when we want it.”

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: economy; gasprices; iran; oil; recession
How long until we can get somebody with a drill to move a few caribou out of the way and say to hell with it?
1 posted on 05/21/2008 12:47:07 PM PDT by Rufus2007
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To: Rufus2007

Geez, everyone is predicting higher costs than the other guy just to get people to read their blog. A lot of these predictions are just hot air, but they cause the costs to increase even a little more.


2 posted on 05/21/2008 12:49:26 PM PDT by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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To: Rufus2007

I’m betting not that long, but probably will take a looong time before it gets to our cars.


3 posted on 05/21/2008 12:49:56 PM PDT by stuartcr (Election year.....Who we gonna hate, in '08?)
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To: Rufus2007
$12 for a gallon of gas is “inevitable.”

This guys is a flaming moron! We have oil. The myth of all of the globe's oil running out is just that. Plus, way before this price point is hit, a slew of alternate sources would become very, very viable.

4 posted on 05/21/2008 12:52:03 PM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: Rufus2007

Incremental supply will only help incrementally. We need more than that. There is oil shale in the Rockies which would be profitable to extract at Crude prices above $120. Our economy will adapt eventually however the short term will be a nightmare.


5 posted on 05/21/2008 12:52:50 PM PDT by Saberwielder
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To: Rufus2007

The outrageous the claim, the more attention these kooks get.


6 posted on 05/21/2008 12:53:51 PM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: Rufus2007

Not going to happen. If it gets to $7 or $8 a gallon the economy will collapse or we will find something cheaper to power our cars with.


7 posted on 05/21/2008 12:54:33 PM PDT by lesser_satan (Cthulu '08! Why vote for the lesser evil?)
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To: Lazamataz

We’re dead. Concentration camps and radioactive Nazi zombies on the way...


8 posted on 05/21/2008 12:55:15 PM PDT by JamesP81 (George Orwell's 1984 was a warning, not a suggestion)
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To: Rufus2007

I think the continued demand for gasoline will cause two phenomena:

1. the irrational fear of drilling for oil and building new refineries will disappear and an abundance of oil and gasoline will become available

2. a market-driven demand for alternative sources of energy will cause flurry of private investment and viable fuels and technologies

3. oil extraction from shale will become viable and will explode


9 posted on 05/21/2008 12:56:00 PM PDT by Notwithstanding ("You are either with America in our time of need or you are not" - Hillary from Senate well 9/12/01)
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To: Rufus2007

Laz A. Mataz, owner of Laz Asset Management, predicted today that there is a 100% eventuality of $349.99 a gallon gasoline, in an effort to drive more people to his blog.


10 posted on 05/21/2008 12:56:14 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Secondhand Aztlan Smoke causes drug addiction obesity in global warming cancer immigrant terrorists.)
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To: Rufus2007

Economy tanks at $6 to $7 a gallon, so it’s probably not going to hit $12.


11 posted on 05/21/2008 12:57:02 PM PDT by mysterio
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To: JamesP81
We’re dead. Concentration camps and radioactive Nazi zombies on the way...

God I hope so.

Nazi Zombie chicks are kinda sexy.

12 posted on 05/21/2008 12:57:58 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Secondhand Aztlan Smoke causes drug addiction obesity in global warming cancer immigrant terrorists.)
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To: Rufus2007

I predict that a gallon of gas will eventually reach $87 a gallon. Can I be a guest on a financial show now?


13 posted on 05/21/2008 12:59:20 PM PDT by Phantom Lord (Fall on to your knees for the Phantom Lord)
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To: Notwithstanding

this time, the old saw is true, “hurts poor and minorities the worst.” Add the burden of increasing hunger around the world, and it’s criminal not to make the moves you mention. McCain better get himself out of the green box in a hurry.


14 posted on 05/21/2008 1:00:04 PM PDT by gusopol3
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To: Rufus2007

15 posted on 05/21/2008 1:00:19 PM PDT by weegee (We cant keep our homes on 72 at all times & just expect that other countries are going to say OK -BO)
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To: lesser_satan
Not going to happen. If it gets to $7 or $8 a gallon the economy will collapse or we will find something cheaper to power our cars with.

If there is not a viable alternative that is price competitive today at $4 a gallon or in the near future, how will an alternative be invented and produced on a scale the size of gasoline in quick fashion?

16 posted on 05/21/2008 1:01:31 PM PDT by Phantom Lord (Fall on to your knees for the Phantom Lord)
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To: theDentist

If this is true, invest in oil futures now. You’ll triple or quadruple your investment. And the more people that take this course of action (speculating in oil futures) the more certain the tulip market price will continue to rise.

Buy now! Sell high!!!

Or buy gold to protect your buying power. Purple Prince colored $5 bills is a BAD investment. The government will just print more and Soros will work against our greenbacks.


17 posted on 05/21/2008 1:03:06 PM PDT by weegee (We cant keep our homes on 72 at all times & just expect that other countries are going to say OK -BO)
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To: Rufus2007

And every time one of these clowns opens his piehole, the price goes up more because of speculators.

I hate to say it, but the liberals are succeeding. They’ve gotten us into the kind of price spiral that resembles their wet dream of global warming’s tipping point, where the increase takes on its own energy and drives itself.

I still think Soros is behind it. He’s probably driving up the price of oil on the QT, which is why he didn’t want to lose the dollar as the currency of record just yet.


18 posted on 05/21/2008 1:03:21 PM PDT by SlowBoat407 (ANWR would look great in pumps.)
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To: Rufus2007

Well, sure $12 is inevitable if the Dems are writing the budget and need tax dollars and want to push a “green” agenda.


19 posted on 05/21/2008 1:06:01 PM PDT by Tanniker Smith (Tony Stark makes you feel he's a cool exec with a heart of steel . . .)
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To: Rufus2007

We used to play a card game called “Setback” - a sort of back-alley Bridge; when you or your partner got a bit giddy or tipsy one would “Shoot-the-moon!”

It’s about Oh dark-thirty out there right now, it seems.


20 posted on 05/21/2008 1:07:31 PM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: lesser_satan

THERE IS NOTHING ELSE, like turtles, it’s carbon all the way down.


21 posted on 05/21/2008 1:09:11 PM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: JamesP81

“We’re dead. Concentration camps and radioactive Nazi zombies on the way...”

Good! In the words of R.E.M, “I’ve had my fun and now it is time for me to go”


22 posted on 05/21/2008 1:09:38 PM PDT by wolfcreek (I see miles and miles of Texas....let's keep it that way.)
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To: Lazamataz

Got a link?


23 posted on 05/21/2008 1:13:03 PM PDT by EdReform (The right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed *NRA*JPFO*SAF*GOA*SAS*RWVA)
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To: EdReform
Got a link?


24 posted on 05/21/2008 1:22:00 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Secondhand Aztlan Smoke causes drug addiction obesity in global warming cancer immigrant terrorists.)
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To: Rufus2007; All

This Hirsch is a moron. Gas Prices are going to go higher but not that high. Nowhere near that high. I think gas prices will top out at about $5-6 a gallon over the next couple of years. At these prices we will get very serious about drilling and synthetics.


25 posted on 05/21/2008 1:22:38 PM PDT by truthguy (Good intentions are not enough!)
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To: SlowBoat407

I think the whole point of crude skyrocketing is to get a Dem elected president and the muslim oil countries are supporting this.


26 posted on 05/21/2008 1:23:37 PM PDT by subterfuge (changed tagline just for this thread..........)
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To: Rufus2007

Let me make another prediction that’s probably more accurate than this guy:

Within the next 12 months, oil will crash to somewhere in the $70’s. Gas prices, having topped out at $4/gallon around August 1, will be around $2.29 or so by June of 2009, brought on by a slowly strengthening dollar, and the speculators finally running out of steam.


27 posted on 05/21/2008 1:30:00 PM PDT by RockinRight (Supreme Court Justice Fred Thompson. The next best place for Fred.)
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To: Rufus2007

I can save the country. I’ll buy some oil stock. That will surely cause it to drop like a rock. It never fails to happen to me.


28 posted on 05/21/2008 1:31:11 PM PDT by Sig Sauer P220
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To: SlowBoat407
I still think Soros is behind it. He’s probably driving up the price of oil on the QT, which is why he didn’t want to lose the dollar as the currency of record just yet.

This scenario wouldn't surprise me in the least. How long before the pranksters that once hit Soros in his with a cream pie trade in their desserts for firearms?

29 posted on 05/21/2008 1:32:16 PM PDT by AngryJawa ({IDPA, NRA} All Hail John Moses Browning)
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To: Rufus2007

All we have to do is chase the over-commitment of speculative money out of the futures markets. There’s far, far, far too much spec money being thrown into commodity futures.

Regulators need to:

1. Eliminate swap transactions.
2. Raise margin requirements.

We need to get the hedge funds and their oh-too-clever kids with their huge leverage out of commodities markets before we see Yet Another Bubble hurt the economy even further.

Price is now completely divorced from supply/demand fundamentals in oil markets. Today’s contango is at odds with what supply/demand projections are going forward out to 2012 and beyond.

Republicans could be spearheading this move, but they won’t, because they’re wedded to this mental masturbation of “free markets.” The GOP is perfectly happy to stand by and watch financial anarchy occur while mumbling their mantra of “we support free markets!” - all the while, there is no such thing as a free market outside of contraband such as drugs, prostitution and gun-running.


30 posted on 05/21/2008 1:34:04 PM PDT by NVDave
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To: Sig Sauer P220
Thanks in advance.

Wait a minute .. I already own some oil stock.

31 posted on 05/21/2008 1:41:28 PM PDT by wideminded
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To: Rufus2007
Tain't the caribou which is holding things up. It's our deal with the Saudi's who promised to buy our debt and peg their oil to the dollar if we buy Saudi oil.

The oilfields in Alaska will remain untapped, even though discoveries confirmed a 400-years supply of oil ready to be pumped. Plenty of oil

32 posted on 05/21/2008 1:51:58 PM PDT by Eastbound
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To: Eastbound
Oops. Try this link:

Plenty of oil.

33 posted on 05/21/2008 1:54:04 PM PDT by Eastbound
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To: Sig Sauer P220

Worst-case scenario, you’ll break even. When the hex is put on oil, it’ll fall, you’ll lose your ass, but think of all the money you’ll save in gas costs.


34 posted on 05/21/2008 1:54:18 PM PDT by Rufus2007
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To: Rufus2007

The economy will go belly-up long before gas prices reach $12.00 per gallon. The problem is that the crude oil that is used to make gasoline also makes diesel fuel, jet fuel, heating oil and petrochemicals. Before crude oil gets high enough to make gasoline $12.00 per gallon, it will have driven those other fractional distillates ( which are used heavily inindustry) to the point that they will bankrupt the economy.


35 posted on 05/21/2008 2:15:32 PM PDT by NRG1973
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To: Rufus2007

We need to get rid of that nut in Iran now. Imanutjob is partially responsible for the high oil prices.


36 posted on 05/21/2008 2:22:47 PM PDT by Thunder90
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To: Thunder90
We need to get rid of that nut in Iran now.

The prices sure went down after we got rid of the Butcher of Baghdad. oh wait. They didn't. No one ever even jokes about "No war for oil" anymore. Congress and the Federal Reserve are more responsible in that Congress caused the (sub-prime mortgage fueled) credit crisis that was supposedly fixed by the Fed successively weakening the dollar, which predictably caused inflation of the price of commodities.

We are all government largesse addicted smiley-faced-fascists these days and we get what we deserve. "Imanutjob" just needs to sit back and let us kill ourselves. Liberalism/fascism/socialism/environmentalism will kill us. That is inevitable.

37 posted on 05/21/2008 3:06:45 PM PDT by MichiganConservative (You won't have any friends in the camps. Fools get what they deserve in the end.)
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To: Rufus2007
......and burn oil shales etc.

I would think $12 a gallon would do it! Although it will be fun to hang politicians and others first.

38 posted on 05/21/2008 3:21:26 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Sig Sauer P220

Do it. Do it for your countrymen.


39 posted on 05/21/2008 11:23:29 PM PDT by beaversmom
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To: Eastbound

Thanks for the link. I’ll have to finish watching that at a better hour. I think I heard him on Coast to Coast a few months back.


40 posted on 05/21/2008 11:31:49 PM PDT by beaversmom
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To: RockinRight

your prediction of June 2009 seems about right for the fall. I think America will come out stronger and more fuel efficient and less dependent on outside energy.


41 posted on 05/22/2008 1:25:04 AM PDT by Cronos ("Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant" - Omar Ahmed, CAIR)
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To: beaversmom

You’re welcome!


42 posted on 05/22/2008 2:27:20 AM PDT by Eastbound
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