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Blockading Iran
Commentary Magazine ^ | 5/21/08 | Gordon G. Chang

Posted on 05/21/2008 11:14:17 AM PDT by Dawnsblood

On Monday, Prime Minister Ehud Olmert proposed a U.S. naval blockade of Iran. In talks with House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, he also suggested that nations not allow the entry of Iranian business people and senior regime leaders. Both measures are intended to prevent Iran from building nuclear weapons. “The present economic sanctions on Iran have exhausted themselves,” Olmert said, according to today’s Haaretz, the Israeli paper, in its online edition.

At about the same time that Haaretz reported the news of Olmert’s proposals, the Washington-based Institute for Science and International Security released a May 13 letter from Iranian Foreign Minister Manouchehr Mottaki to U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon. In the letter, Iran proposed talks on its nuclear program and other topics, such as nuclear disarmament, the Palestinian issue, and democracy in the Balkans. “I see it as a way to start negotiations,” said Institute for Science and International Secutrity President David Albright, referring to Iran’s wide-ranging offer.

Is there anything left to negotiate at this point? After all, most everything that could be said about Iran’s enrichment of uranium has already been uttered. Most every proposal has already been made in one form or another. Mottaki, in his letter, notes his country wants “constructive interaction and reasonable and just negotiations, without preconditions and based on mutual respect.” Of course, what the foreign minister is really saying is that Iran will not stop enrichment as the Security Council has demanded.

So, despite Tehran’s defiance of U.N. demands, should we start discussions with its representatives on the problems of the world? I say, let’s talk. But let’s also impose the blockade before we sit down with the mullahs’ representatives. As Defense Secretary Robert Gates said yesterday,

The key here is developing leverage, either through economic or diplomatic or military pressures on the Iranian government so they believe they must have talks with the United States because there is something they want from us, and that is the relief of the pressure.

There’s nothing wrong about talking with repugnant and dangerous adversaries–as long as they come to surrender.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: blockade; iran; olmert; rice

1 posted on 05/21/2008 11:14:18 AM PDT by Dawnsblood
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To: Dawnsblood

......On Monday, Prime Minister Ehud Olmert proposed a U.S. naval blockade of Iran......

In private remarks after the meeting, Speaker Pelosi said she didn’t condone piercing type body art. In spite of the fact many of her constituents have naval piercings,some even with rather large stones, a naval blockade might be harmful to ones health.


2 posted on 05/21/2008 11:19:13 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . The Bitcons will elect a Democrat by default)
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To: Dawnsblood

How effective would a naval blockade of Iran be? It has a Black Sea shore as well a a Persian Gulf shore along with borders with Turkey, Pakistan and Russian satellites in the Caucasus.

Sounds unworkable.


3 posted on 05/21/2008 11:19:21 AM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: Dawnsblood
A blockade is, under international law, an Act of War. That makes this a bad idea.

Additionally, Iran has the ability to effectively blockade the entire Persian Gulf by denying oil tankers the use of the Straights of Hormuz. 30% of the world's oil supply passes through the Straights. If you think oil at $132/barrel is bad, you haven't seen anything.

4 posted on 05/21/2008 11:21:52 AM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: Alter Kaker

No doubt they would try to stop oil shipments. Their first salvo would bring about an end to the Iranian Navy and any others foolish enough to take on our carriers.


5 posted on 05/21/2008 11:24:58 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: ZULU

Oil, the only reason. No oil, no cash = very unhappy citizens.


6 posted on 05/21/2008 11:29:29 AM PDT by moose2004
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To: moose2004

$133.17


7 posted on 05/21/2008 11:37:12 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

That’s a lot of cash to lose every day.


8 posted on 05/21/2008 11:42:10 AM PDT by moose2004
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General Olmert yapping with Admiral Pelosi. In the unlikely evern we're going to blockade Iran, a clear act of war, we need to take out their nuclear programs and defensive capabilities first.

9 posted on 05/21/2008 12:09:24 PM PDT by SJackson (It is impossible to build a peace process based on blood, Natan Sharansky)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
Their first salvo would bring about an end to the Iranian Navy and any others foolish enough to take on our carriers

And double the price of a barrel of oil. All Iran has to do is just hint at closing the Strait and the speculators will bid prices into the stratosphere.
10 posted on 05/21/2008 12:18:00 PM PDT by reagan_fanatic (Average White Conservative)
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To: reagan_fanatic

Like the first Iraq war, do doubt oil would go straight up, then come down in a week or two with the realization that the threat was taken out. As far as Iran’s hints, this wouldn’t be news to the world and speculators seem to doing OK right now. Crude oil today carries a $40/bbl higher cost precisely because of the potential for disruption by Iran.


11 posted on 05/21/2008 1:00:26 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: ZULU
1. Iran is on the Caspian Sea and Persian Gulf. No blockade would work without Russian help. However, Russia alone cannot send enough refined oil for Iranian needs.
2. The "Russian Satellites" in the Caucuses are allies of the us, Armenia, Georgia and Azerbaijan. Azerbaijan may be Shia Muslim but they want to liberate the 1/2 of Azeri territory in Iran or at least stop the mistreatment of Shia and Sunni Azeris. Likewise, Turkmenistan on the other side has a territorial and ethnic dispute with Iran.
12 posted on 05/21/2008 3:53:15 PM PDT by rmlew (Down with the ersatz immanentization of the eschaton known as Globalism.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks; Alter Kaker
The Iranian navy would not try to go toe to toe with the US fleet. They would rather try to lay as many mines as possible before ieing and per haps see if they can't launch a few silkworms at us. Speaking of which, Iran has quite a few stationary and portable anti-ship missle launchers with various French, Russian and Chinese missiles. They only need to take out one or two super tankers to make life difficult.

Iran would also use Shia terrorists in other countries to strike oil production and transportation.

13 posted on 05/21/2008 3:56:58 PM PDT by rmlew (Down with the ersatz immanentization of the eschaton known as Globalism.)
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To: rmlew
They only need to take out one or two super tankers to make life difficult.

Taking out one or two super tankers in the Straits of Hormuz with land-based Silkworms would bottleneck 30% of the world's supply of crude oil. The Iranians can blockade the United States a lot easier than the United States can blockade Iran.

Either way, it's hard to see how a blockade doesn't result in a full scale escalation.

14 posted on 05/21/2008 5:08:22 PM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: Alter Kaker
Either way, it's hard to see how a blockade doesn't result in a full scale escalation.

According to the Geneva Convention, a blockade is "an act of war".

15 posted on 05/21/2008 5:18:30 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: Alter Kaker

I suspect the US Navy has considered what is required to reopen the Straits.


16 posted on 05/21/2008 5:29:16 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: okie01
According to the Geneva Convention, a blockade is "an act of war".

Correct. And there are small wars and there are major wars. If the US blockades Iran and Iran responds by sinking supertankers, then it's difficult to see how the two sides aren't pulled into a major regional war. Would not be a good idea imho.

17 posted on 05/21/2008 5:29:20 PM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
I suspect the US Navy has considered what is required to reopen the Straits.

The only real option is a full-scale amphibious invasion of Iran. Iran has a population of 70 million -- and the US lacks the manpower to support an invasion.

18 posted on 05/21/2008 5:31:03 PM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: Alter Kaker

I don’t think a parachute or amphibious landing will be part of this.


19 posted on 05/21/2008 5:37:06 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Alter Kaker

One account here (FR) relating to the Tanker War claimed that 90% of Irans military capabilities were destroyed in that conflict and the Iran-Iraq war.I can’t find the reference and I am sure the Iran would have rebuilt to avoid a similar scenario but we could put them in a world of hurt.


20 posted on 05/21/2008 5:49:59 PM PDT by MARTIAL MONK (I'm waiting for the POP!)
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To: MARTIAL MONK

The only capabilities Iran needs are shore-to-ship missiles. Iran has literally thousands of those. The rest of its military assets — F14s, gunboats, etc. are completely irrelevant. The missile technology Iran has today is far beyond its capabilities in the Tanker War.


21 posted on 05/21/2008 5:55:14 PM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: rmlew

So you think a blockade will work?

It didn’t work with that other nut Saddam.


22 posted on 05/21/2008 6:04:46 PM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks; Alter Kaker; ZULU; ASA Vet; Grampa Dave; LonePalm
On the CBS Radio News this morning it was reported that Iran has 28 oil tankers (270,000 bbl capacity) laden with heavy crude parked in the Iranian port of Bandar Abbas. They don't seem to be going any where.

Haven't heard any further reports on this nor have I been successful in searching for an article confirming it. Anyone heard of this?
23 posted on 05/21/2008 7:43:55 PM PDT by BIGLOOK
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To: BIGLOOK

I did hear something about this but I didn’t hear why. It might simply be a contango play by Iran.


24 posted on 05/22/2008 5:57:51 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Alter Kaker
A blockade is, under international law, an Act of War. That makes this a bad idea.

International law? LOL. You're right. Let's just send in military forces and take the damned oil. Give the Liberals exactly what they've been saying we're doing all along. Let's show them what "it's all about oil" REALLY means.
25 posted on 05/22/2008 7:00:40 AM PDT by Rick.Donaldson (http://www.transasianaxis.com - Please visit for latest on DPRK/Russia/China/et al.)
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To: Rick.Donaldson
Let's just send in military forces and take the damned oil.

Military forces? What would those be, exactly? This isn't Playstation, this is real life, and the US doesn't have the capacity to wage a ground war in Iran if it wanted to.

26 posted on 05/22/2008 11:08:44 AM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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