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Immigration raids terrify kids, House is told
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | 5/21/8 | Zachary Coile

Posted on 05/21/2008 7:55:45 AM PDT by SmithL

(05-21) 04:00 PDT Washington - --

When federal agents raided a San Rafael apartment complex in the early morning hours of March 6, 2007, searching for 30 undocumented immigrants, they left behind a lot of terrified children, Kathryn Gibney, the principal at nearby San Pedro Elementary School, said.

The agents shone flashlights in the children's faces. Several parents were handcuffed in front of their kids. The next day 40 of the school's 400 students were too frightened to show up for class, and others arrived in tears. A year later, Gibney said the effects continue with higher absenteeism, lower test scores and increased counseling for her students.

"They left behind them a trail of fear," Gibney told lawmakers Tuesday in a hearing before a House Education and Labor subcommittee.

Petaluma Democratic Rep. Lynn Woolsey called the hearing in response to growing anxiety among immigrants and the schools, churches and social service agencies that serve them, that stepped-up raids by the Department of Homeland Security's Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agency are coming at a high cost to children. Woolsey said she is considering legislation that would require the agency to follow guidelines to protect children.

Earlier this month, the Oakland Unified School District sent uniformed officers into an elementary school in East Oakland to reassure parents and students after reports of ICE vans in the area. The agency insisted it was not targeting the school, but seeking adults in the area who had been named in arrest warrants.

Child required to translate

Gibney cited another incident on May 8 when federal agents stopped a father walking his daughter to Bahia Vista Elementary School in San Rafael. Since the agents could not communicate with the father, the second-grader had to serve as a translator. The father, who was undocumented, was arrested.

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government
KEYWORDS: aliens; ice; illegalimmigration; illegals; immigrantlist; itsforthechildren; juanmccainsbase
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Rep. Lynn Woolsey says she's heard of children who are too scared to go to school after raids.
1 posted on 05/21/2008 7:55:46 AM PDT by SmithL
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To: SmithL
Several parents were handcuffed in front of their kids.

And the fright the children received is the fault of law enforcement, not the law-breaking parents, because...?

2 posted on 05/21/2008 7:58:08 AM PDT by grellis (By order of the Ingham County Sheriff this tag has been seized for nonpayment of taxes)
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To: grellis

Post the photo of Elian Gonzalez please.


3 posted on 05/21/2008 7:59:20 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: SmithL; Liz; calcowgirl; Grunthor; indylindy; Calpernia; AuntB; Tennessee Nana; pissant; ...
"They left behind them a trail of fear," Gibney told lawmakers Tuesday in a hearing before a House Education and Labor subcommittee.

As opposed, of course, to illegal immigration/amnesty advocates, who leave a trail of slime in their wake.

4 posted on 05/21/2008 7:59:22 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (If McCain really CAN "win without conservatives," then why do you care if I vote for him or not?)
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To: grellis

Post the photo of Elian Gonzalez please.


5 posted on 05/21/2008 7:59:23 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: grellis

Post the photo of Elian Gonzalez please.


6 posted on 05/21/2008 7:59:27 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: massgopguy

Guess they weren’t terrified when the crossed the border and escaped our border agents....risking their lives.


7 posted on 05/21/2008 8:00:08 AM PDT by Blue Turtle
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To: SmithL
Flashlights? Handcuffs? Tigers, and lions, and bears? Oh my! At least it didn't go down like this:


8 posted on 05/21/2008 8:00:14 AM PDT by messierhunter
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To: SmithL

I suspect that kids whose parents routinely break the law always live in fear. That’s not something society is responsible for, however. It’s the fault of the parent(s). I don’t even feel guilty.

susie


9 posted on 05/21/2008 8:00:22 AM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: SmithL

Good information. We need to add “Endagering the welfare of a child” and “corrupting the morals of a minor” to the charges these parents are facing. Aren’t those the standard addons when arresting a drug head who has children in tow?


10 posted on 05/21/2008 8:00:31 AM PDT by GulfBreeze (McCain is our nominee. No one else.)
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To: SmithL

Sorry kids. Your parents chose to come here illegally and break the law; if you were alive when they did, you get to go back to Mexico with them because you’re illegal too. If you were born here...well, we’re still working that part out.

Put the blame here where it belongs—on the lawbreaking parents.

}:-)4


11 posted on 05/21/2008 8:00:43 AM PDT by Moose4 (http://moosedroppings.wordpress.com -- Because 20 million self-important blogs just aren't enough.)
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To: SmithL

Isn’t Lynn Woolsey the one that speaks like she is drunk?


12 posted on 05/21/2008 8:00:46 AM PDT by beaversmom
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To: massgopguy

Done.


13 posted on 05/21/2008 8:01:05 AM PDT by messierhunter
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To: SmithL

Quit breaking the law and the kiddies won’t see pop doing the perp walk.

This is no different than kids of drug dealers or crack house tennants.


14 posted on 05/21/2008 8:01:07 AM PDT by wrench
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To: SmithL
Make them feel safe, send them home where they will not be involved in illegals activities.
15 posted on 05/21/2008 8:01:35 AM PDT by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: SmithL
Congress stood behind the Clinton Administration for this ARMED raid:


16 posted on 05/21/2008 8:02:19 AM PDT by weegee (We cant keep our homes on 72 at all times & just expect that other countries are going to say OK -BO)
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To: SmithL

We must provide amnesty to these poor illegal parents. It’s for the chilrun’. /s/


17 posted on 05/21/2008 8:02:54 AM PDT by TADSLOS (The GOP death march to the gravesite is underway.)
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To: SmithL

A big BOOHOO. Perhaps the children should ask their parents why they don’t obey the law!
Should we not arrest other criminals because their kids might be traumatized????


18 posted on 05/21/2008 8:03:03 AM PDT by ROLF of the HILL COUNTRY ( The Constitution needs No interpreting, only APPLICATION!)
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To: SmithL
The government also approves of the stress they are putting on the FLDS kids:


19 posted on 05/21/2008 8:03:32 AM PDT by weegee (We cant keep our homes on 72 at all times & just expect that other countries are going to say OK -BO)
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To: SmithL

Better headline, “Criminal Immigrants Create Stressful Environment, Children Hit Hardest”.


20 posted on 05/21/2008 8:03:32 AM PDT by Red Dog #1
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To: SmithL

The illegal actions of parents will have negative consequences on the children of those who commit crimes regardless of race ... the principal of “reaping what you sow” at work


21 posted on 05/21/2008 8:03:34 AM PDT by DeLaVerdad
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To: SmithL

tough.


22 posted on 05/21/2008 8:03:35 AM PDT by pgkdan (Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions - G.K. Chesterton)
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To: SmithL

Tough crap. That is their illegal parents fault. Pack the parents back to their home craphole and send the anchors with them. The anchors can pick their country of citizenship when they turn 18. We are under no obligation to care for the spawn of illegals whether the kids are legal or not. It is the responsibility of the parents and the parent’s country of origin.


23 posted on 05/21/2008 8:03:39 AM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: SmithL

Do kids get sacred when their parents raise them in a crack house, are an FLDS pig barn.


24 posted on 05/21/2008 8:03:48 AM PDT by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: Tennessee Nana

ping


25 posted on 05/21/2008 8:03:52 AM PDT by beaversmom
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To: SmithL

Immigration Raids Terrify Kids......

And there are places in my city that I, an American Citizen, am terrified to drive through because of all the gang banger anchor babies but our politicians don’t care.
pffffffttttttt


26 posted on 05/21/2008 8:04:12 AM PDT by sheana
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To: SmithL
Did you happen to read any of the comments posted regarding the column? I only read the first 6 or 7 but they were all PRO-ICE! What the heck is going on in the Bay Area????

As for the point of the article...too dang bad. I feel for the kids as the situation is out of their control. However, it isn't out of the control of the parent who is here illegally. If they had come here following proper procedure the children wouldn't have any reason to be terrified.
27 posted on 05/21/2008 8:04:22 AM PDT by ninergold3 (Don't like my attitude? Then get one of your own!)
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To: SmithL
Well it looks like the raids are working and if the "problem" continnues, school costs will go down.

This is an example of where not enforcing a basic law, like illegal immigration, leads to ongoing nitpiking, distractions, and expense on government and tax payers.

28 posted on 05/21/2008 8:04:42 AM PDT by purpleraine
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To: weegee

See, that was ok because they were taking the kid from the adults who didn’t deserve to raise the child. It’s not ok to take the adults from the kid who deserves to be raised by the govern... wait a minute, that’s it! That’s how we convince the left that we need to deport some parents and keep the anchor babies here: the government gets to raise the leftovers!


29 posted on 05/21/2008 8:04:53 AM PDT by messierhunter
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To: SmithL

If you think that scaring the kids is a major problem, add child endangerment to the parent’s offenses.


30 posted on 05/21/2008 8:05:38 AM PDT by magslinger (cranky right-winger)
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To: SmithL

The kids are too scared to go to a school they have no business attending in the first place? Send them home with their criminal parents. Obviously, the parents are teaching their kids to have no respect for our laws. I’m guessing the kids now have a better appreciation for what can happen when our laws are ignored.

I have the same indignant look on my face as the three in the picture, but for a different reason.


31 posted on 05/21/2008 8:05:48 AM PDT by MichiganCheese (Vote for the liars, they promise you more of other people's stuff.)
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To: Moose4

What’s to work out?

If they are anchor babies, they still should go home with their PARENTS. Their PARENTS cannot use the child as an excuse to remain here.

The kids can hold contempt for the actions of their parents who USED their kids as a bargaining chip.

The parents first priority should be to take care of their kids, not to remain in this country.

If MEXICO does not want to accept immigration of American anchor babies, then the parents need to take the Mexican government to task.


32 posted on 05/21/2008 8:05:57 AM PDT by weegee (We cant keep our homes on 72 at all times & just expect that other countries are going to say OK -BO)
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To: SmithL

Oh boo-hoo, po wittle iwegals being unfaiwy tewowized by waw enforcement.

Let’s all cry in outrage.

Funny....I don’t recall any of these Amnesty proponents getting all misty-eyed when children were ripped away from their mothers in the FLDS raid.....

I guess, it’s okay to “terrorize” Americans and asylum seekers with guns to the face - but God forbid you actually try and apprehend a criminal invader....tsk, tsk.


33 posted on 05/21/2008 8:07:46 AM PDT by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: SmithL

I think I will vote for Democrats this time as an experiment. I want to see how much this country can take before it implodes.


34 posted on 05/21/2008 8:07:50 AM PDT by westmichman ( God said: "They cry 'peace! peace!' but there is no peace. Jeremiah 6:14)
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To: SmithL
Look at the practiced frowns on their faces. Too funny.

I guess they could use the same argument for not busting crack houses, branch davidian compounds, polygamist sects, jihadi sleeper cells, etc.

35 posted on 05/21/2008 8:07:55 AM PDT by Perchant
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To: purpleraine

I don’t see how testimony about stressed anchor babies has any part of Congress’ time. MY tax dollars pay for these hearings.


36 posted on 05/21/2008 8:08:11 AM PDT by weegee (We cant keep our homes on 72 at all times & just expect that other countries are going to say OK -BO)
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To: SmithL

The parents are the ones putting their children in this situation. Charge the parents with child endangerment. Simple as that.


37 posted on 05/21/2008 8:08:50 AM PDT by WesternPacific (I am tired of voting for the lesser of two evils!)
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To: SmithL

Gee, it sure didn’t bother them when Elian was taking by force and sent back to cuba.


38 posted on 05/21/2008 8:09:10 AM PDT by MsLady (If you died tonight, where would you go? Salvation, don't leave earth without it!)
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To: messierhunter

Already spoiled rotten from being here, no thanks, send them home with their parents just like Elian Gonzales.


39 posted on 05/21/2008 8:11:01 AM PDT by Son House (God Enlightened me through Charles Gibson, the top Income Tax Rate Should be 15% too!)
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To: weegee

All these problems arising from illegal immigration have the same solution, enforce the law. What they are doing is convoluting all of our institutions, schools, courts, hospitals etc. because they won’t do so.


40 posted on 05/21/2008 8:14:50 AM PDT by purpleraine
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To: WesternPacific

There are also millions of American kids terrorized daily by the gangs of illegal alien invaders.

There are also millions of American adults terrorized by the fact that our money is taken from us to enable these lawbreakers.

A flashlight shown in the face does not compare to the agony of the majority.


41 posted on 05/21/2008 8:18:01 AM PDT by MichiganCheese (Vote for the liars, they promise you more of other people's stuff.)
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To: SmithL
Yeah, and the children of crack dealers, thieves and other law-breakers are pretty scared when cops bust into their homes too.

Illegal immigrants are illegal, hence the raids. The children shouldn't even be here, going to our schools. Children born of illegals in this country should not be considered legal citizens. That law needs to change. Absolutely no incentives whatsoever should be given to those who wish to come here illegally. There should be as many disincentives as possible -- including the threat of being scared out of your wits by agents raiding your home.

42 posted on 05/21/2008 8:19:13 AM PDT by RepublitarianRoger2
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To: SmithL

The ‘family values’ of these aliens put their children in this situation. Stay home! Problem solved.


43 posted on 05/21/2008 8:19:32 AM PDT by AuntB (Vote Obama! ..........Because ya can't blame 'the man' when you are the 'man'.... Wanda Sikes)
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To: SmithL
Let's say I sneak my kids into Mexico...Illegally...

Let's just say!


Now, let's also say that I get raided by the Mexican police, who arrest me and frighten my kids...let's just say.

Let's say that it is MY job to make sure my children are protected from harm, including terribly frightening experiences....

Then whose to blame, ME...or the Mexican police?
44 posted on 05/21/2008 8:20:30 AM PDT by FrankR (OBAMA is the VAST WRIGHT-WING CONSPIRACY...)
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To: SmithL

If the kids got frightened, it is the parents’ fault for putting them in the situation.


45 posted on 05/21/2008 8:24:24 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall cause you to vote against the Democrats.)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle; SmithL; calcowgirl; Grunthor; indylindy; Calpernia; AuntB; ...

Americans get the feeling illegals are lying in wait to kill us or sue is-—whichever is more profitable.

This garbage will give illegals one more reason to sue us or kill us.


46 posted on 05/21/2008 8:25:59 AM PDT by Liz (Without the brave, there'd be no land of the free. Senator Fred Thompson)
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To: weegee

Yeah, they were so stressed they were smiling as they left the compound.


47 posted on 05/21/2008 8:27:06 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall cause you to vote against the Democrats.)
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To: SmithL

Tell that to the Branch Dividians and the Randy Weaver family.


48 posted on 05/21/2008 8:30:24 AM PDT by therut
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To: SmithL

Democrat Party members want to keep their slave class of illegal aliens.


49 posted on 05/21/2008 8:31:20 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: SmithL

Looks like a picture of the House Communism Caucus....


50 posted on 05/21/2008 8:33:50 AM PDT by bpjam (Drill For Oil or Lose Your Job!! Vote Nov 3, 2008)
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