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Why don't those hillbillies like Obama? [“Mountain people have long been considered exotic.”]
Salon ^
| May 20, 2008
| By Dee Davis
Posted on 05/20/2008 5:40:08 AM PDT by johnny7
WHITESBURG, Ky. -- In analyzing the returns from last week's West Virginia Democratic primary, a phalanx of reporters and commentators have explained Hillary Clinton's landslide victory by pointing out that West Virginians are a special set of Democrats, white, low income and undereducated.
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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Kentucky; US: West Virginia
KEYWORDS: hillary; ky2008; marines; obama; ruralvote
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The eminent British historian Sir Arnold Toynbee described the residents of Appalachia in 1947 as "the American counterparts of the latter-day white barbarians of the Old World -- Rifis, Albanians, Kurds, Pathans, and Hairy Ainus."
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posted on
05/20/2008 5:40:08 AM PDT
by
johnny7
To: johnny7
Hairy Ainus ??? I think they might object to being called a "Hairy Ainus".
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posted on
05/20/2008 5:42:32 AM PDT
by
techcor
To: johnny7
Could be that W. Virginians and Kentuckians know B.S. when they see it.
To: johnny7
...because country people have a modicum of common sense and see through the Emperor’s-New-Clothes Lies, THAT’S why they won’t vote for the Obamanation.
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posted on
05/20/2008 5:46:57 AM PDT
by
madison10
(“To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.”)
To: techcor
??? I think they might object to being called a "Hairy Ainus". Sounds like a Jeff Foxworthy set-up:
Jeff: "Hey, Harry, how you doin'?"
Harry: "Just fine, ainus?"
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posted on
05/20/2008 5:47:45 AM PDT
by
Jonah Hex
("Never underestimate the hungover side of the Force.")
To: johnny7
Maybe they just had the good sense to not take the gubmint marxist education system seriously.
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posted on
05/20/2008 5:48:30 AM PDT
by
gunnyg
To: johnny7
My great grandfather was a sixth generation inhabitant of those mountains until after the Civil war he traveled to central Missouri with his youngest son after his wife died. He fostered his other 13 children mostly with his oldest children and lived with his civil war buddy and the man’s maiden sister in LaMonte MO. My grandfather then married into a family of refuges from the Irish potato famine. I’m guessing my great grandfather was less than literate but the Irish branch pushed education.
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posted on
05/20/2008 5:49:06 AM PDT
by
Mercat
(the LORD himself will establish a house for you)
To: johnny7
How Obama fares in rural America may, in the end, have to do with whether he shows up. In politics not showing up and losing are kissing cousins. Obama made three visits to West Virginia. In Kentucky, he limited himself to appearances in the state's two biggest cities, Louisville and Lexington. He didn't come to my part of the state, or try to make any friends in rural areas. Mr Hussien dirty himself by actually pretending to suck up to white hicks?
HAHAHAHAHAHA! Flying pigs tossing snowballs comes to mind
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posted on
05/20/2008 5:50:09 AM PDT
by
TLI
( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
To: johnny7
"Why don't these hillbillies like Obama?"
Ask this man:
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posted on
05/20/2008 5:50:45 AM PDT
by
TommyDale
(I) (Never forget the Republicans who voted for illegal immigrant amnesty in 2007!)
To: johnny7
LOL! West Virginia has turned Red in the last two presidential elections. Its full of conservative Reagan Democrats. Not your typical Obama voter.
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus
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posted on
05/20/2008 5:52:06 AM PDT
by
goldstategop
(In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
To: johnny7
This one is actually pretty easy to figure out.
They are from Whitesburg.
Next question, Alex?
You knew it was coming.
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posted on
05/20/2008 5:54:54 AM PDT
by
Delta 21
( MKC USCG - ret)
To: madison10
HATS why they wont vote for the Obamanation. Instead, they voted for the hildebeeste.
Of course, all the choices suck this year.
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posted on
05/20/2008 5:55:26 AM PDT
by
ArrogantBustard
(Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
To: Mercat
He fostered his other 13 children mostly with his oldest children...
Does that mean what I think it means?
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posted on
05/20/2008 5:55:30 AM PDT
by
Krankor
(kROGER)
To: johnny7
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posted on
05/20/2008 5:55:52 AM PDT
by
Jeff Head
(Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
To: Krankor
hmm, no. His wife died giving birth to their 14th child. At the time he had several children, daughters, who were already married and some had children. He took my grandfather, then two and moved to Missouri, leaving the other younguns with his older children to raise. My dad remembers some of these aunts and uncles so they did keep in touch. Back then, men were not considered fit to raise children on their own. But the story was that them hills were full of those folks and their kin.
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posted on
05/20/2008 6:00:12 AM PDT
by
Mercat
(the LORD himself will establish a house for you)
To: techcor
??? I think they might object to being called a "Hairy Ainus". Well he didn't say it to their face.
To: johnny7
Having lived in West Virginia for a few years, I can tell you that yes, there are white, undereducated hillbillies out there, and there are also a lot of white, educated people who value patriotism and sovereignty and God. “Change” would not be well-received in West Virginia or Kentucky either, for the most part. There is a lot of respect for tradition, family and church. It isn’t just aversion to electing a black man, but rather aversion to electing a change man.
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posted on
05/20/2008 6:05:32 AM PDT
by
Sender
("Why is it that I can't just eat my waffle?" - Barack Hussein Obama)
To: Krankor
If you mean 16+ children, maybe...
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posted on
05/20/2008 6:07:04 AM PDT
by
Dust in the Wind
(Fund A Red Meat Eatery Regularly)
To: Dust in the Wind
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posted on
05/20/2008 6:09:44 AM PDT
by
Dust in the Wind
(Fund A Red Meat Eatery Regularly)
To: TommyDale
how old was he when he posed for that picture? Grey hair? he must have held LIFELONG BELIEFS in the KKK
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posted on
05/20/2008 6:10:20 AM PDT
by
Mr. K
(Some days even my lucky rocketship underpants don't help)
To: johnny7
I wonder how the eminent British historian, Sir Arnold Toynbee, would describe
this strain of garbage from San Francisco?
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posted on
05/20/2008 6:11:52 AM PDT
by
johnny7
(Don't mess with my tag-lines!)
To: johnny7
Barack and his lovely wife Michele, affirmative action babies who are legends in their own eyes, don’t have anything in common with working people who haven’t been to Haavaad.
Their only problem is that “hicks” vote.
To: Jeff Head
Holy macaroni and cheese! Ahmadinejad looks like he’s at about 3rd stage werewolf in that pic.
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posted on
05/20/2008 6:15:54 AM PDT
by
Krankor
(kROGER)
To: johnny7
IOW: If you don’t slavishly support Barrack Hussein Obama you are a white racist hillbilly.
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posted on
05/20/2008 6:16:13 AM PDT
by
Mike Darancette
(Obama: "America is the greatest country on earth, help me change America.")
To: Sender
Where I come from (San Francisco), Obama does not represent Change - he represents San Francisco Bay Area values, just like Hillary does. The left coast is hating Hillary because she won't enact extremes to the degree Obama will.
That shows smarts in them West Virginians.
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posted on
05/20/2008 6:17:19 AM PDT
by
Alia
To: Jeff Head
I am worried that casting Obama as ‘evil’ and a liar may turn out to be bad for conservatives
Hillary and Bill are EVIL
Obama is just naive and ignorant (not stupid- there is a difference) and NOT qualified to be president.
He seems charming and a nice guy, who just believes in too many things that are incorrect.
We risk plenty by calling an nice charming man a bad man, we end up looking and sounding like liberals (who call ALL republicans evil)
oh- and Neville Chamberlain was stupid and evil
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posted on
05/20/2008 6:18:14 AM PDT
by
Mr. K
(Some days even my lucky rocketship underpants don't help)
To: Mr. K
When you look at Obama’s background, his actual record in the IL Ssenate, and in the US senate...when you look at who he has chosen to surround himself with and then how easily he either simply ignores it, lies about it, or throws them aside...I believe he too is both.
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posted on
05/20/2008 6:21:02 AM PDT
by
Jeff Head
(Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
To: johnny7
Maybe he would recognize them as Hairy Ainus.
(Ainu are an ethnic group native to Japan, perhaps the earliest humans to reach the Japanese islands. I assume they are “hairy” compared to the Nipponese.)
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posted on
05/20/2008 6:21:11 AM PDT
by
Tax-chick
("If Global Warming did not exist, the left would have to invent it. In fact, they did." ~Don Feder)
To: johnny7
Since they keep electing KKK Byrd to the Senate, we can figure they just don’t like Change.
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posted on
05/20/2008 6:22:43 AM PDT
by
Tax-chick
("If Global Warming did not exist, the left would have to invent it. In fact, they did." ~Don Feder)
To: Alia
They are purty smart, even the ones that can’t spel. They know a socialist globalist Islamist hypocrite black man when they see one.
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posted on
05/20/2008 6:26:47 AM PDT
by
Sender
("Why is it that I can't just eat my waffle?" - Barack Hussein Obama)
To: johnny7
I wonder how the eminent British historian, Sir Arnold Toynbee, would describe
this strain of garbage from San Francisco?
The LSD branch.
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posted on
05/20/2008 6:32:15 AM PDT
by
crazyhorse691
(With McCain around we can proudly proclaim, WE ARE SO SCREWED)
To: ArrogantBustard
Instead, they voted for the hildebeeste. Let's not forget a little bit of Operation Chaos subterfuge thrown in for good measure.
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posted on
05/20/2008 6:34:48 AM PDT
by
tflabo
(Truth or tyranny)
To: Sender
You know what I really like about them "purty smart, even the ones that cant spel" -- they know how to do things, how to fix things, how to make life work. That get 'er done.
Hicks and hillbillies may not use 50 cent words, but when they do talk, they make more sense than overeducated boobs nattering nothings. Just amazes me that anyone who knows about self-sufficiency could vote Democrat, tho. I still don't get why they do that.
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posted on
05/20/2008 6:36:19 AM PDT
by
Alia
To: johnny7
That picture is a perfect illustration. When these politicians are more comfortable with that ilk than hard working rural folk, there is a very wide disconnect with those that make this country work.
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posted on
05/20/2008 6:38:24 AM PDT
by
Ghengis
(Of course freedom is free. If it wasn't, it would be called expensivedom. ~Cindy Sheehan 11/11/06)
To: tflabo
We’ll see what the Mountaineers do in November. If they vote for McCain (or don’t vote), we’ll know it was OC. Elsewise ...
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posted on
05/20/2008 6:39:05 AM PDT
by
ArrogantBustard
(Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
To: Mike Darancette
Ah, there’s the gist of the article.
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posted on
05/20/2008 6:39:08 AM PDT
by
kenth
(Just think, .000001783% of the population is screwing it all up for the rest of us.)
To: Mr. K
“He seems charming and a nice guy, who just believes in too many things that are incorrect.”
Two quotes spring to mind:
“The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.”
[From W.B. Yeats ‘Second Coming’] and
‘Villainy wears no deadlier guise than that of virtue.’
What seems to be mere, starry-eyed ignorance and naivety may mask a dark, clever and deadly agenda.
I think he’s completely aware of reality and determined to “change” it to benefit his Islamic/Marxist brethren.
[whether past or present]
If he is elected, in four short years this country will be utterly unrecognizable as the US of A.
That is close enough to “evil” for me.
Another Hil & Bill presidency is unthinkable, yes, but my screaming gut-feeling is that BO is FAR more dangerous to America.
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posted on
05/20/2008 6:45:56 AM PDT
by
Salamander
(And don't forget my Dog; fixed and consequent......)
To: ArrogantBustard
We have a lot of “old-style Dems” here in Appalachian W.MD.
I’m seeing “Hillary/Nobama” bumperstickers.
The Probama stickers are on cars heading back to DC via I-70 after spending the weekend out here, doing whatever it is they come to do in droves, every Friday night.
If local blacks are supporting him, they’re doing so invisibly.
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posted on
05/20/2008 6:51:22 AM PDT
by
Salamander
(And don't forget my Dog; fixed and consequent......)
To: kenth
Too true...and you’d be amazed how immune we are to any kind of “-ist” labels.
[listening to 30+ years of “Deliverance” cracks give you very thick skin]...;-D
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posted on
05/20/2008 6:55:17 AM PDT
by
Salamander
(And don't forget my Dog; fixed and consequent......)
To: Alia
Just remember they showed both Gore and Kerry to the door.
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posted on
05/20/2008 6:57:00 AM PDT
by
meatloaf
To: Alia
Where I come from (San Francisco), Obama does not represent Change - he represents San Francisco Bay Area values.The nice thing about an offer as open as "change" is that everyone can see it as whatever they want it to be.
It's like offering up tofu--or feces (same thing)--and telling everyone to just imagine it is their individual favorite dish.
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posted on
05/20/2008 7:08:02 AM PDT
by
bannie
(clintons CHEAT! It's their only weapon.; & Barry/Barack has two faces.)
To: johnny7
In analyzing the returns from last week's West Virginia Democratic primary, a phalanx of reporters and commentators have explained Hillary Clinton's landslide victory by pointing out that West Virginians are a special set of Democrats, white, low income and undereducated.And all those rural Southern Blacks who voted for Obama are intellectuals?
For some reason white people are the only population segment of America who aren't allowed to be poor, rural, and undereducated.
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posted on
05/20/2008 7:10:03 AM PDT
by
Zionist Conspirator
(Im-bechuqqotay telekhu; ve'et-mitzvotay tishmeru, va`asiytem 'otam.)
To: madison10
Why would they vote for Hillary?
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posted on
05/20/2008 7:11:46 AM PDT
by
mimaw
To: johnny7
“Undereducated and low income” I thought that was the Dem stock in trade?
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posted on
05/20/2008 7:13:04 AM PDT
by
junta
(It's Poltical Correctness stupid! Hold liberals accountable for their actions, a new idea.)
To: Sender
I have lived in WV for a number of years, and yes, West Virginians tend to be very patriotic. The “g damn America” statement by Obama’s pastor did not go down well at all with West Virginians.
I am a white hillbilly, I guess, but I don't care about the race, gender, or religion of a candidate, but I do care about what they stand for. As far as I'm concerned, both the democratic candidates are far too liberal, especially on the abortion, gay marriage, and tax and spend issues.
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posted on
05/20/2008 7:23:06 AM PDT
by
k omalley
(Caro Enim Mea, Vere est Cibus, et Sanguis Meus, Vere est Potus)
To: johnny7
"would describe this strain of garbage from San Francisco?"
Future $350,000.00 Medicaid cases at End of life Aids Hospital residents?
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posted on
05/20/2008 7:27:29 AM PDT
by
litehaus
(A memory tooooo long)
To: Mike Darancette
Hillbilly? I prefer the term Mountain William, thank you.
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posted on
05/20/2008 7:27:59 AM PDT
by
Tennessee_Bob
("Those who "abjure" violence can only do so because others are committing violence on their behalf.")
To: sportutegrl
I have it on good information that the Hairy Ainus are angry, bitter people, who cling to God and guns and xenophobia to make themselves feel better.
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posted on
05/20/2008 7:31:29 AM PDT
by
Tulane
To: Mercat
We are also in central MO. My husband's family was in Virginia and some of them moved out here years ago.
carolyn
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posted on
05/20/2008 7:31:55 AM PDT
by
CDHart
("It's too late to work within the system and too early to shoot the b@#$%^&s."--Claire Wolfe)
To: Alia
I think that the reason so many poor/rural/laboring people got addicted to the Democratic party was that in the past, the Democrats fought for causes they could relate to, like decent working conditions and mine safety and fair representation against what they perceived were the arrogant, industrial barons who would cheat them and humiliate them. We're talking the old Democratic party now. Even rural folks here in Georgia used to be Democrats. Now my county is about the highest-percentage Republican county in the US. Why? Because the Democratic party left them and moved to San Francisco.
It isn't because of the brilliance or the generosity of the Republican party that so many have switched; it's because the Democratic party has gone balls-out freaking liberal.
Unions still cling to the Democrats, but the unions have pretty much priced themselves out of existance. Not even Hillary can bring back legions of high-paying, guaranteed jobs and benefits for life with increases every contract. Now the unions are competing against workers in China who don't know what vacations or benefits are, and who are grateful for a few dollars a day. Good luck with that, Democrats, as you helped outsource all the jobs over there. Don't tell me you are going to bring them all back, you aren't.
The real question is why black people are addicted to the Democratic party. Don't they know that the Democrats fought tooth and nail against civil rights? Don't they know that the Southern Democrats were the slave owners, and the Northern Republicans were the abolitionists? I guess they don't. They aren't as smart as West Virginians.
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posted on
05/20/2008 8:44:10 AM PDT
by
Sender
("Why is it that I can't just eat my waffle?" - Barack Hussein Obama)
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