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Length of Kennedy hospital stay raises questions
AP/Google ^ | 05/19/2008 | Glen Johnson

Posted on 05/19/2008 10:46:54 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

BOSTON (AP) — Sen. Edward M. Kennedy's hospitalization after a seizure stretched to a third day Monday, raising questions about the severity of his illness.

The senator's office announced that he is not expected to return to Washington this week, and a spokeswoman said the Massachusetts Democrat had not been available to take a call from President Bush earlier in the day.

"Take care of my friend," the president told Vicki Kennedy, who answered the call from the White House to Massachusetts General Hospital, according to Kennedy spokeswoman Stephanie Cutter.

There was no word on how long Kennedy, 76, would remain hospitalized. Physicians not involved in his care debated whether the length of his stay was an indication of something more serious or simply an outgrowth of caution in dealing with a prominent patient.

One neurologist said a patient coming in with the symptoms that have been publicly described could be released in a matter of hours after undergoing a series of brain and blood tests.

"In my experience, when people come in with a single seizure, if they can do the MRI and appropriate bloodwork in the emergency room, they're discharged from there," said Dr. Mark Schlosberg of the Washington Medical Center.

Dr. Steven Schachter, a neurology professor at Harvard Medical School, said diagnosis "is not always a linear process."

Schachter said doctors sometimes have to circle back to earlier test results as they glean new clues from subsequent tests or fresh elements of a patient's medical history. He said one major focus would be determining whether Kennedy actually had a seizure, and if so, whether it's the type of seizure likely to recur.

The liberal icon was admitted to Massachusetts General on Saturday after becoming ill following a walk with his dogs at his oceanfront home on Cape Cod.

No members of his family have spoken publicly about his condition, and a statement Saturday from his personal physician, Dr. Larry Ronan, contained the most spartan of details.

"Preliminary tests have determined that he has not suffered a stroke, and is not in any immediate danger," Ronan said Saturday. "Over the next couple of days, Senator Kennedy will undergo further evaluation to determine the cause of the seizure, and a course of treatment will be determined at that time."

Kennedy's office confirmed his likely absence from work after it was disclosed by several officials.

"He's doing well and anxious to get back to work. Doctors are still evaluating him and we expect the senator to remain in the hospital for a couple of days while they finish their work," according to a written statement. "It's likely the senator will take a few days off at home before returning to the Senate."

Previous statements have described the senator's visitors and the movies and television he has watched. No photograph of Kennedy has been released since he was hospitalized, although a request from The Associated Press was being considered.

Over the weekend, Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass., visited his colleague, but he declined public comment about his condition. Sen. Barack Obama of Illinois, the leading Democratic presidential contender, told reporters he was surprised by Kennedy's vigor during a phone call Saturday.

Sen. Christopher Dodd, D-Conn., said Kennedy's voice "couldn't have been stronger" when he called Sunday.

"My cell phone rang and I picked it up and here was this voice that sounded terribly familiar to me talking about how those nurses were picking on him up in that hospital. It had me laughing," Dodd told reporters.

"His voice was robust and strong and full of that laughter we've all heard a million times. He sounded great."

Kennedy appeared to have been the victim of a seizure, an electrical disturbance in the brain. Ronan and other physicians were conducting a battery of tests, the results of which may not be available until Tuesday.

Kennedy underwent surgery last October on the left carotid artery in his neck after doctors discovered a near-complete blockage that left him with an elevated risk of a stroke. The senator has since resumed a hectic schedule, including campaigning for Obama and bouncing between appointments on Capitol Hill and in Massachusetts.

Schlosberg, the Washington neurologist, said that if Kennedy were his patient he would investigate whether he suffered an undetected stroke during his surgery, since seizures can often come months after a stroke.

"Perhaps he didn't have any symptoms of a stroke at that time, but maybe it put him on the path to a seizure down the road," Schlosberg said. CAT scans, MRIs, blood tests and an EEG brain-wave test would also be used to search for evidence of a stroke, brain tumor or abnormal brain activity such as a seizure.

Schlosberg said seizures can also be caused by medication, undiagnosed diabetes or sudden alcohol withdrawal.

Doctors may be taking more time seeking a cause, he said, because they know there will be a public scrutiny of Kennedy's treatment.

John Roberts, chief justice of the Supreme Court, was hospitalized overnight last July after an episode similar to Kennedy's. Roberts previously had a seizure in 1993, so in a clinical sense, his second meant he had epilepsy — a disease that occurs in those having two or more seizures in their lifetime.

While there were some reports Kennedy may have had two seizures on Saturday, Schlosberg said most doctors would consider them a single event because of their proximity to one another. In that case, Kennedy would not be considered epileptic.


TOPICS: Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: 110th; kennedy; maryjosayshi; seizure; tedkennedy; tedward
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1 posted on 05/19/2008 10:46:54 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

About the best I can do is remain neutral on this one.


2 posted on 05/19/2008 10:49:21 PM PDT by RobinOfKingston (Man, that's stupid ... even by congressional standards.)
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To: RobinOfKingston

Same problem here, I assure you. ;)


3 posted on 05/19/2008 10:50:08 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (If McCain really CAN "win without conservatives," then why do you care if I vote for him or not?)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

He should remain indefinitely just to be safe.


4 posted on 05/19/2008 10:51:34 PM PDT by byteback
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

I wouldn’t be suprise if Teddy has Alcohol base hepatitis


5 posted on 05/19/2008 10:51:36 PM PDT by SevenofNine ("We are Freepers, all your media belong to us, resistence is futile")
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
"Kennedy and Sen. John F. Kerry are both supporting Obama in his battle against Clinton"
– Boston Herald 5/3/08

Just pointing this detail out. Nothing more.

6 posted on 05/19/2008 10:51:56 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* 'I love you guys')
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

There must be some Young Kennedy ready to take over for Teddy and serve another 45 years in the Senate.


7 posted on 05/19/2008 10:52:06 PM PDT by trumandogz ("He is erratic. He is hotheaded. He loses his temper and it worries me." Sen Cochran on McCain)
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To: RobinOfKingston
About the best I can do is remain neutral on this one.

I wish him well, but keep thinking of stuff surrounding Castro's not-so-brief hospitalization. I digress. Hope he's fine real soon.

8 posted on 05/19/2008 10:52:34 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
Schlosberg said seizures can also be caused by medication, undiagnosed diabetes or sudden alcohol withdrawal.
9 posted on 05/19/2008 10:53:01 PM PDT by LibFreeOrDie
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
I hope he recovers enough to enjoy a nice quiet retirement.

OTOH, if he's really in a bad way, we may have to hear about this for a long time.

May his illness be brief. Long illnesses suck for all concerned.

10 posted on 05/19/2008 10:53:06 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

May Ted Kennedy reap what he has sown a thousand fold.


11 posted on 05/19/2008 10:54:04 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (John McCain, the Manchurian Candidate.)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Perhaps the dear old gent is under too much pressure. I think he deserves a well earned retirement so he can enjoy life.


12 posted on 05/19/2008 10:56:01 PM PDT by passionfruit (When illegals become legal, even they won't do work American's won't do)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Prayers offered up.


13 posted on 05/19/2008 10:56:11 PM PDT by Ciexyz
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To: trumandogz

I don’t think so. The line has run completely to seed, politically.


14 posted on 05/19/2008 10:56:35 PM PDT by RobbyS (Ecce homo)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
>>Schlosberg said seizures can also be caused by medication, undiagnosed diabetes or sudden alcohol withdrawal.

I'm no doctor but I'd bet they got him on an alcohol drip.

15 posted on 05/19/2008 10:57:22 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (CHAOS)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
He probably had a seizure due to alcohol withdrawal. What he needs is a shot of this:

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16 posted on 05/19/2008 10:58:54 PM PDT by Cobra64 (www.BulletBras.net)
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To: passionfruit

I fear his body is giving him strong signals.


17 posted on 05/19/2008 10:59:00 PM PDT by RobbyS (Ecce homo)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

It’s a terrible hardship for the family when their loved one lingers like this. Hopefully the family will have closure soon.


18 posted on 05/19/2008 11:03:40 PM PDT by Perchant
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To: LibFreeOrDie
Schlosberg said seizures can also be caused by medication, undiagnosed diabetes or sudden alcohol withdrawal.

Unless he had been in jail or something for the past week, I think we can rule out the alcohol withdrawal possibility.

19 posted on 05/19/2008 11:03:42 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: dayglored

“May his illness be brief. Long illnesses suck for all concerned.”

Is Franco still dead?


20 posted on 05/19/2008 11:06:40 PM PDT by M1911A1
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To: RobinOfKingston
TAKE CARE OF MY FRIEND? TAKE CARE OF MY FRIEND. Is Bush really this stupid? Maybe the left has been right all this time... maybe I'm finally coming out of my denail. He could have sent best wishes from him and Laura...PERIOD....MY FRIEND? IS THIS GUY INSANE?

Memo to Bush: THEY HATE YOU and pray every night that you're the one in the hospital with a stroke.

21 posted on 05/19/2008 11:07:38 PM PDT by Hildy
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To: Cementjungle

“I wish him well”

I will save my well wishes for those who don’t make me puke...


22 posted on 05/19/2008 11:08:23 PM PDT by babygene (Never look into the laser with your last good eye...)
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To: Perchant
I hope he's still aware, even in this extremis, that it's never considered acceptable for a gentleman to keep a lady waiting.
23 posted on 05/19/2008 11:09:38 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (If McCain really CAN "win without conservatives," then why do you care if I vote for him or not?)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

I sincerely hope that Senator Kennedy takes his time getting back on his feet. The longer he stays away from Washington, the less damage he can do.


24 posted on 05/19/2008 11:09:59 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (During the Middle Ages, rats spread bubonic plague. Today, Rats spread the socialist plague.)
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To: Steve Van Doorn

Wink wink... Nudge nudge...


25 posted on 05/19/2008 11:14:27 PM PDT by The Electrician ("Government is the only enterprise in the world which expands in size when its failures increase.")
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To: Cobra64
Bigger-it's Ted Kennedy.


26 posted on 05/19/2008 11:18:11 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (This tagline has been banned or suspended.)
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To: Hildy

Oh give it a rest, Hildy. The President is simply a NICE person, and will be nice to others, regardless of how they treat him. YOU may not like it, but that’s the way it is. It has nothing to do with politics, it’s just his way.


27 posted on 05/19/2008 11:19:24 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

So many nurses. So little time....


28 posted on 05/19/2008 11:22:27 PM PDT by llevrok (I don't think outside the box. There is no box in my world.)
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To: RobinOfKingston

Ditto here, but suffice to say that the Dems seems to be wanting another ‘Godfather’ to look up to.


29 posted on 05/19/2008 11:24:25 PM PDT by prophetic (God, let Obama speak utter foolishness and confound the wisdom of his counselors)
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To: passionfruit
Perhaps the dear old gent is under too much pressure. I think he deserves a well earned retirement so he can enjoy life.

Doubtless he'll be crossing that bridge when he gets to it.

30 posted on 05/19/2008 11:26:15 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (If McCain really CAN "win without conservatives," then why do you care if I vote for him or not?)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Ouch. Ow. Ouch. Ouch. I’m biting my tongue here. Oww!


31 posted on 05/19/2008 11:33:22 PM PDT by webheart
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Ted, I think it is time to retire. Head off to some state you haven’t destroyed, someplace where your pension and savings will be stretched, where you will not be crushed by the high taxes you helped usher in, where the cost of living has not skyrocketed because of leftist regulations. Given your health problems, you may want to stay out of the southwest - too many hospital closings lately, plus you would have a much higher statistical chance of getting killed by a drunk driver’s car. When you recover a bit, you may want to take up swimming.


32 posted on 05/19/2008 11:36:01 PM PDT by M203M4 (True Universal Suffrage: Pets of dead illegal-immigrant felons voting Democrat (twice))
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To: RobinOfKingston
Parson Walker's wife laid very sick once, for a good while, and it seemed as if they warn't going to save her; but one morning he come in, and Smiley asked how she was, and he said she was considerable better—thank the Lord for his inf'nit mercy—and coming on so smart that, with the blessing of Prov'dence, she'd get well yet; and Smiley, before he thought, says, "Well, I'll risk two-and-a-half that she don't, anyway."
33 posted on 05/19/2008 11:37:44 PM PDT by dr_lew
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

That, sir, is funny.


34 posted on 05/19/2008 11:38:24 PM PDT by M1911A1
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To: LibFreeOrDie

“Schlosberg said seizures can also be caused by medication, undiagnosed diabetes or sudden alcohol withdrawal.”

Sounds like a good excuse not to give up drinking.


35 posted on 05/19/2008 11:38:58 PM PDT by FFranco
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To: SuziQ

I agree with you. President Bush is a decent man and remains so, despite the vileness of his political attackers.


36 posted on 05/19/2008 11:40:34 PM PDT by KJC1
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To: SuziQ; Hildy

President Bush is a classy guy. If he called Sen. Kennedy his friend at a time like this, it doesn’t surprise me. Makes me love him all the more. I wish he could run for a third term.


37 posted on 05/19/2008 11:52:13 PM PDT by derllak
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To: Cobra64

...and on a financial note, Chavis stock was down early today on corporate reports of a downturn in US sales.


38 posted on 05/20/2008 12:21:44 AM PDT by politicalwit (AKA... A Tradition Continues...Now a Hoosier Freeper)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
"Take care of my friend," the president told Vicki Kennedy, who answered the call from the White House to Massachusetts General Hospital

President Bush is a true gentleman.

The longer Kennedy is in the hospital, the less time he'll be in Washington screwing up the country.

39 posted on 05/20/2008 12:57:13 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

We don’t gain a thing by inciting ill will against Ted Kennedy at a time like this.

We do however, show ourselves to be nobler and kinder by offering sincere wishes for recovery and a return to health.

Then we can throw everything including the kitchen sink at him (in a rhetorical sense of course).

But right now, he’s like a giant tortoise on his back, virtually helpless. Any one of us could be in the hospital suffering, none of us ought to be gleeful about it happening to Kennedy.


40 posted on 05/20/2008 1:12:09 AM PDT by mkjessup
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To: mkjessup
We don’t gain a thing by inciting ill will against Ted Kennedy at a time like this.

... and I've done this where, precisely...?

41 posted on 05/20/2008 1:13:32 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (If McCain really CAN "win without conservatives," then why do you care if I vote for him or not?)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

It wouldn’t surprise me a bit if the rats wheeled Kennedy’s comatose rear-end into the Senate chamber so he can “vote” along with Robert Byrd, Tim Johnson, and Barbara Boxer.


42 posted on 05/20/2008 1:15:54 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

If Chris Dodd says Teddy is fit and healthy, who’s not to believe a US Senator? sarc(just in case)


43 posted on 05/20/2008 1:16:51 AM PDT by Randy Papadoo (HRC/BHMO/JMc........Which pile of doggy poop will you step in?)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
We don’t gain a thing by inciting ill will against Ted Kennedy at a time like this.
... and I've done this where, precisely...?


NOwhere Kent, I wasn't speaking of anything you've posted personally, I was just making a general observation.

You are as always, a gentleman and a scholar.
44 posted on 05/20/2008 1:23:35 AM PDT by mkjessup
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To: mkjessup
You are as always, a gentleman and a scholar.

:) :) Thanks! My Bad for misunderstanding, then, totally.

45 posted on 05/20/2008 1:25:10 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (If McCain really CAN "win without conservatives," then why do you care if I vote for him or not?)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

No biggie, have a great day! :)


46 posted on 05/20/2008 1:25:42 AM PDT by mkjessup
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To: mkjessup

You, too! ;)


47 posted on 05/20/2008 1:26:50 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (If McCain really CAN "win without conservatives," then why do you care if I vote for him or not?)
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To: Cementjungle

Old alcoholics have hard deaths.


48 posted on 05/20/2008 1:35:49 AM PDT by x_plus_one ("let them eat cake, drive small electric cars and take the bus")
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To: SevenofNine

"I wouldn’t be suprise if Teddy has Alcohol base hepatitis"

Well, I can see how a serious drinking problem could weaken his liver and make him more susceptible to disease, but hepatitis is a virus and just being an alcoholic would not give it to you.

49 posted on 05/20/2008 2:11:18 AM PDT by Mila
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To: Navy Patriot

This is one I’ll probably sit out, but your comment echos what I am thinking, 100%.


50 posted on 05/20/2008 2:24:53 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (If you continue to hold your nose and vote, your nation will stink worse after every election.)
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