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Bashers Beware
IBD ^ | May 19, 2008

Posted on 05/19/2008 5:55:34 PM PDT by Kaslin

The Presidency: It takes little courage — or brains — to join the mob vilifying President Bush. But the Democrats (and Republicans, too) depicting him as villain will one day regret it.


In the eyes of members of both parties, George W. Bush seems to be the cause of everything from the recent GOP special election losses to a flagging economy to today's bad weather.

Barack Obama plans to reach the White House by claiming the presidency of Sen. John McCain would amount to a third Bush term. McCain, meanwhile, seems to think it a wise campaign strategy to highlight his differences with the president, such as outgreening the greens on global warming.

Rep. Tom Davis, former chairman of the National Republican Congressional Committee, reflected the panic engulfing many Republicans in Congress last week when he called President Bush "absolutely radioactive" and warned, "They've got to get some separation from the president" if they want to win this November.

How about a dose of reality?

(Excerpt) Read more at ibdeditorials.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 110th; 2008; bdw; bush; elpresidente; georgebush; gop; president; tomdavis
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1 posted on 05/19/2008 5:55:34 PM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

I think Bush is a great man and President and one day history will treat him as such.


2 posted on 05/19/2008 6:03:06 PM PDT by Diggity
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To: Diggity

I was so proud this weekend when my 7 and 11 year old boys told their 16 year old stepsister (after she made a derogatory Bush comment) that she needed to respect her president.


3 posted on 05/19/2008 6:06:22 PM PDT by proudtobeanamerican1 (Media -)
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To: Diggity
Pres. Bush has no-one to blame but himself. He thought he could set a “new tone” in DC. But he ended up doing the political equivalent of a fetal position on the floor for 8 years while he was kicked at from all sides. All the time he should have been fighting back - hard, dirty, and brutal.

I'm really tired of wimpy republicans but it looks like we're going to get more of the same.

4 posted on 05/19/2008 6:09:53 PM PDT by wewereright
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To: Diggity

I think Bush sold out the North Korean people for the sake of a ‘legacy’, he’s talking out of both sides of his mouth, telling the Israeli Knesset that on the one hand, they shouldn’t negotiate with terrorists, but he continues to push his ‘Road Map To Rest-In-Peace Israel’ which would end up dividing their land, giving it to terrorists, and pretending it’s a “Two State Solution”.

I also think that for all his prattle about “not allowing” Iran to have a nuclear weapon, he has failed to take effective action not only against the Islamofascist regime in Tehran, but to retaliate against proven Iranian forces and proxies that have been killing our troops in Iraq with impunity.

And do we need yet another reminder about how our illustrious Commander-in-Chief has failed to secure our borders, and has condoned the railroading of two of our Bord Patrol agents by a corrupt prosecutor?

Greatness is not achieved by doing a half-ass job and running one’s mouth instead of taking action.

That will be the judgment of history on George W. Bush.


5 posted on 05/19/2008 6:10:38 PM PDT by mkjessup
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To: Diggity

Bush has done a great job in many ways. He should have vetoed more Republican spending bills before they lost the majority. The ONE issue that hurts the Republicans now is the high gas prices. Every day, when someone fills up, they think it’s Bush’s fault. They forget that in 1994, Bill Clinton vetoed a Republican bill to drill in ANWR. Bill said it would take ten years to get it up and running. That would have been 2004. Now it’s 2008 and everyone’s forgot what Bill Clinton did. The Republicans need to make their case for more drilling, more refineries, better gas mileage. People need to be reminded of what the Dems want to do. THEY are the reason for high gas prices with no alternatives for us.


6 posted on 05/19/2008 6:13:00 PM PDT by rtbwood
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To: Diggity

When history is written, it will find President Bush as one of the greatest President of this century, if not all times. No matter what the left and the republican Bush bashers say


7 posted on 05/19/2008 6:13:26 PM PDT by Kaslin (Peace is the aftermath of victory)
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To: Kaslin

Thank you for posting this. I’m as angry at the spineless republicans as I am at the LSOS democrats. I don’t know of any of them I will feel as confident in as I have this President.


8 posted on 05/19/2008 6:13:36 PM PDT by mimaw
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To: Kaslin
I do not regard President Bush as a “villain” but I do regard him as incompetent. A villain is someone who deliberately lies, obfuscates or twists for his advantage. Nixon was a villain, so was Clinton. “Read My Lips” Bush, “Mission Accomplished” Bush, Carter, and LBJ were/are simply incompetent. While Reagan and Kennedy, to a much lesser degree while he lived, were pure political geniuses. Ford and Eisenhower were neither genius or incompetent but were two presidents that I regard as thoroughly honest and moderate men. Those are the presidents of my lifetime. Of them I rate Reagan 1. Kennedy 2. Eisenhower 3. Ford 4. "Read My Lips" Bush 5. LBJ 6. Nixon 7. "Mission Accomplished" Bush 8. Carter 9. and Clinton 10.
9 posted on 05/19/2008 6:15:01 PM PDT by meandog ((please pray for future President McCain, day minus 250 and counting))
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To: Kaslin

I have got say, for my Domestic Issues, there has never been a better President of the United States, from appointing Conservatives to the Bench and the SCOTUS, to protecting Firearms makers from crushing lawsuits, to Tax Cuts, to Federal Funds for Abortions, to creating the largest nature preserve in US History..

Now it can be said that in the political silly season, candidates will try to distance themselves from President Bush, that is politics and it is a rough business, butas for the “worst president ever” crap, his critics may whine, but he has accomplished a heck of alot for the American People and Conservatives who care about our Culture.

Right now, we all have seen so much of GWB, we maybe don’t realize what a good President that he is.

Thus endeth the sermon...


10 posted on 05/19/2008 6:16:15 PM PDT by padre35 (Conservative in Exile/ Isaiah 3.3/Cry havoc and let slip the RINOS)
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To: Kaslin

GREAT POST!!!! Why in God’s name doesn’t he, Bush, get out there and tell the public that things are not as bad as they have been made out to be...?

We had a Pearl Harbor attack seven years ago, Katrina, Iraq war etc etc. The democrats undermine him at every turn...

He’s been a great president...but a poor peeese poor communicator...

nick


11 posted on 05/19/2008 6:16:42 PM PDT by nikos1121 (Thank you, Jimmy Carter for all you've done to make the world a safer place.)
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To: Kaslin

If this was praise of Bush, if was faint indeed. I kept looking for something in this article that referred to what Bush did with those six years of congressional majorities and what legislation was passed that forwarded a conservative agenda.


12 posted on 05/19/2008 6:17:52 PM PDT by Biblebelter (If the big blue states got to choose the Republican nominee, I say let them elect him in the fall)
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To: Kaslin

Michael Savage says Bush is the worst CIC in history.


13 posted on 05/19/2008 6:20:47 PM PDT by Griddlee (e)
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To: meandog

President Bush never said “Mission Accomplished” I wished you would read the whole transcript


14 posted on 05/19/2008 6:21:16 PM PDT by Kaslin (Peace is the aftermath of victory)
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To: Griddlee

I don’t care what Michael Savage says. He is wrong


15 posted on 05/19/2008 6:24:19 PM PDT by Kaslin (Peace is the aftermath of victory)
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To: Kaslin
Bush is not 'nuclear'. This is inside the beltway paranoia at it's best. The Repubs do not have time to 'reinvent' themselves. Better they should stand up for their President and insure he fulfills his agenda.

These Repubs need to buck up; find their spine, if possible. . .look their Constituency in the eye; better the MSM and Lefties et al; and Rino's; and show some WILL and some pride that they are Republicans; and America IS better off now; than it was on 9/11.

Take a page from Obama's book; if nothing else. . .but mean it.

16 posted on 05/19/2008 6:25:46 PM PDT by cricket (Damn Political Correctness; before it irretrievably, damns us all. . .)
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To: Kaslin

bush has been awesome

All of his detractors have done little more than aid our enemies.


17 posted on 05/19/2008 6:26:05 PM PDT by lonestar67 (Its time to withdraw from the War on Bush-- your side is hopelessly lost in a quagmire.)
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To: Kaslin

You better be the one writing the history.

Ignoring and exacerbating the immigration situation (especially after the free hand he was given on 9/11) is an inexcusable guffaw. I could go on, but that one thing there is enough to torpedo your incredible claim.


18 posted on 05/19/2008 6:26:09 PM PDT by word_warrior_bob (You can now see my amazing doggie and new puppy on my homepage!! Come say hello to Jake & Sonny)
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To: Griddlee

Savage is an idiot if he said that.


19 posted on 05/19/2008 6:27:01 PM PDT by 1035rep
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To: wewereright

“But he ended up doing the political equivalent of a fetal position on the floor for 8 years while he was kicked at from all sides. All the time he should have been fighting back - hard, dirty, and brutal.”

Wrong. President Bush isn’t a talking head, so he didn’t waste precious time fighting every slur that came his way. He has held firm on his key beliefs and has accomplished more than many Presidents could hope to (I think some Freeper compiled an amazing list a while back).

As someone pointed out here recently, for example, who would have thought Schroeder and Chirac would meet their downfall during a “cowboy” Presidency? Yet they’re gone, and their replacements are downright pro-American compared to them.


20 posted on 05/19/2008 6:28:04 PM PDT by avenir
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To: 1035rep
Savage is an idiot if he said that.

And a genius if he didn't!

21 posted on 05/19/2008 6:29:01 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (You're gonna cry 96 Tears on my Pillow!)
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To: Kaslin; Diggity
Greatness as defined in a president's term is something, IMO, you can hang a legacy on; i.e.:
Eisenhower--The interstate highway system and the atomic age.
Kennedy--The Space Race takes off, faces down the Russians in Cuba.
LBJ--Civil Rights legislation, but ruins his presidency in Vietnam.
Nixon--the opening of China then ruined his presidency with Watergate.
Ford--the restoration of government after Watergate.
Carter--(nothing really substantial but I suppose you have to give him the Israeli/Egyptian peace accord.)
Reagan--Good God! He ended the Cold War, began SDI, expanded space exploration, restored a disastrous economy, the list is too numerous for this bandwith.
"Read My Lips" Bush--he pulled a stalemate out of an overwhelming Iraqi victory and lost an election to a two-bit huckster from Arkansas.
Clinton??? (cannot think of one thing except allowing terrorism to grow while presiding over a pretty good economy)
"Mission Accomplished" Bush??? (Did respond after 9-11, but squandered the good will of a united nation by refusing to employ overwhelming force in a two-front war and ran up a huge deficit while presiding over record energy prices).
22 posted on 05/19/2008 6:31:56 PM PDT by meandog ((please pray for future President McCain, day minus 250 and counting))
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To: Griddlee
Michael Savage says Bush is the worst CIC in history.

If so, then Michael Savage is an idiot.

23 posted on 05/19/2008 6:34:25 PM PDT by libertylover (How does enabling Mrs. Clinton or Obama help The United States of America?)
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To: lonestar67

Here Here!

Let’s see, the appointments of Roberts and Alito have shifted the balance of the Supreme Court, we have seen things like the Ten Commandments declared Constitutional, Partial Brith Abortion Bans upheld.

Not bad for a guy libeled with a whole bunch of stuff, I disagreed with him on Amnesty, other then that he has been fine.


24 posted on 05/19/2008 6:34:31 PM PDT by padre35 (Conservative in Exile/ Isaiah 3.3/Cry havoc and let slip the RINOS)
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To: lonestar67

Indeed. And the worst thing is the distrators here in FR


25 posted on 05/19/2008 6:34:48 PM PDT by Kaslin (Peace is the aftermath of victory)
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To: Kaslin

Bush has done some fine even very great things. But what I cannot get over is the out of control spending and the lack of vetoes. We have been worse stewards of the taxpayer’s dollars than the Clinton administration. There was no leadership on that issue.


26 posted on 05/19/2008 6:34:56 PM PDT by Norman Bates (Freepmail me to be part of the McCain List!)
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To: Kaslin

Bush has done some things, and not done others that have really pissed me off........... but, on balance, I’d say he’s a pretty darn good president who’s poll numbers have been driven down by an unrelentnig attack media.


27 posted on 05/19/2008 6:37:14 PM PDT by umgud (Hillary still has broad support......... in her girdle)
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To: word_warrior_bob

This is not an immigration thread, so don’t even think about making it one.


28 posted on 05/19/2008 6:37:18 PM PDT by Kaslin (Peace is the aftermath of victory)
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To: wewereright

Pres. Bush has no-one to blame but himself. He thought he could set a “new tone” in DC. But he ended up doing the political equivalent of a fetal position on the floor for 8 years while he was kicked at from all sides. All the time he should have been fighting back - hard, dirty, and brutal.

I’m really tired of wimpy republicans but it looks like we’re going to get more of the same.

___

Politics and professional sports are similar, I think the fans care a lot more than the players.

Bush did a HORRIBLE job of selling the War on Terror, never stood on message, while allowing himself to be savaged daily with no response.

It doesn’t take a genius to know there is no need to invite Teddy Kennedy to Movie Night. He will stab you in the back no matter what you do, how could HE not know who he’s playing against?

Him and his father have done everything they can to resurrect and legitimatize the vile vermin known as William Jefferson Clinton, instead of rightfully marginalizing him.

The Bush family has a wonderful life and all of their decisions to increase government will never have an effect on 100 generations of THEIR families, only ours, and does he care for or fight for our rights, no.

How can I defend a man who REFUSES to defend himself, he whistles merrily along while the party goes down the toilet, some figurehead.


29 posted on 05/19/2008 6:37:40 PM PDT by word_warrior_bob (You can now see my amazing doggie and new puppy on my homepage!! Come say hello to Jake & Sonny)
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To: Kaslin
He did not. . .but the truth of the matter was; for those soldiers who set out to insure that Saddam no longer ruled Iraq; their mission WAS accomplished.

Bush's biggest mistake; was letting the 'Left' ever take an inch of truth. . .on anything. He should have known they would soon take their mile. . .then a hundred miles. . .ad nauseum.

They survive and are empowered on their reinventions of truth. And Bush and the rest of the Repub Party never bother to 'edit'

30 posted on 05/19/2008 6:38:22 PM PDT by cricket (Damn Political Correctness; before it irretrievably, damns us all. . .)
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To: Kaslin

Theodore Roosevelt once said “It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat.”


31 posted on 05/19/2008 6:38:35 PM PDT by roses of sharon ( (Who will be McCain's maverick?))
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To: Kaslin
I wouldn't expect to read a detached view on this site. But so far, none of the critics' points have been answered. History has not been written, I'm afraid, and in near term it will be written by liberal academics. Predictions of what will be written are kinda embarassingly ridiculous.

It all kinda depends on what happens afterwards, then the comparisons will be made. In the meantime, the dollar has been deliberately driven down, the energy crisis is for real and no one is showing any leadership on it, Social Security and the tax code are both a mess, unchanged from 8 years ago, and the endless war continues. Quite a legacy.

32 posted on 05/19/2008 6:38:45 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (You're gonna cry 96 Tears on my Pillow!)
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To: Kaslin
Didn't have to say it...


33 posted on 05/19/2008 6:40:12 PM PDT by TheBattman (LORD God, please give us a Christian Patriot with a backbone for President in 08, Amen.)
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To: Kaslin

I used one issue as a disqualifier to the outlandish claim that Bush is the greatest CIC in the past 100 years and quite possibly in history, you interpreting that as turning it into an immigration thread is solely you’re doing.


34 posted on 05/19/2008 6:41:10 PM PDT by word_warrior_bob (You can now see my amazing doggie and new puppy on my homepage!! Come say hello to Jake & Sonny)
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To: Norman Bates

The blame on that question rests primarily with Congress.

Bush’s leadership is not key on the question. I still believe that the domestic spending necessary for security and the war spending put Bush in a much better light than his Cold War cash in critics give him.


35 posted on 05/19/2008 6:41:53 PM PDT by lonestar67 (Its time to withdraw from the War on Bush-- your side is hopelessly lost in a quagmire.)
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To: Norman Bates

News Flash to you. Read the constitution. Only Congress can spend money. Not the President. And did it ever occur to to the reason why he didn’t veto any bills from 2001 to 2006 was because we had the majority in both houses?


36 posted on 05/19/2008 6:41:58 PM PDT by Kaslin (Peace is the aftermath of victory)
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To: TheBattman

It was and is Mission Accomplished

I hope there is no disagreement on this point.


37 posted on 05/19/2008 6:43:39 PM PDT by lonestar67 (Its time to withdraw from the War on Bush-- your side is hopelessly lost in a quagmire.)
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To: Kaslin

I love George Bush.


38 posted on 05/19/2008 6:45:03 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys--Reagan and Bush)
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To: Kaslin

Of course only Congress can spend. But the President can communicate clearly what he expects, he can lead, and if necessary veto. Our government should not be running deficits. The fact that we held Congress and he couldn’t or wouldn’t get them to get spending under control is even more embarrassing.


39 posted on 05/19/2008 6:45:40 PM PDT by Norman Bates (Freepmail me to be part of the McCain List!)
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To: lonestar67

What he should’ve done his first year with his first budget - yes, before 9/11 and national security expenditures went up - was go after unnecessary subsidies especially Title V. There’s no reason to be throwing all this money down the drain. That agenda shouldn’t been set from the beginning but it was unfortunately set as a get-along go-along approach - and once you give them and inch and a lax impression - they’ll run out of control all over you. Precisely what happened.


40 posted on 05/19/2008 6:48:41 PM PDT by Norman Bates (Freepmail me to be part of the McCain List!)
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To: roses of sharon

I don’t know if you’re using the Roosevelt quote to praise of damn Bush.

He is in the arena alright, but is he fighting? Is his face marred with dust, sweat and blood??? No, that is a problem a lot of conservatives have with him, he’s not mixing it up, he doesn’t call out the democrats on their lies about him, so they get repeated ad nauseum and you continue to refuse to fight until you wake up one day with his approval ratings. The side effect is, the party is run into the ground because you lose the propaganda war, or shall I say FORFEITED the propaganda war. Wouldn’t want to upset anyone would you George.

Sorry, I have pretty much always kept my mouth shut about Bush, but just seeing the comment that he is the greatest CIC in the past 100 years and possibly ever is just delusional.


41 posted on 05/19/2008 6:48:46 PM PDT by word_warrior_bob (You can now see my amazing doggie and new puppy on my homepage!! Come say hello to Jake & Sonny)
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To: rtbwood
" Now it’s 2008 and everyone’s forgot what Bill Clinton did. The Republicans need to make their case for more drilling, more refineries, better gas mileage."

Yes, and in 2008 -- last week, as a matter of fact -- enough republicans joined with democrats to prevent any additional domestic drilling for oil and gas. Most republicans, headed by John McCain, aren't going to do squat to battle liberals and assist 'Big Oil' in providing us with more energy.

42 posted on 05/19/2008 6:48:48 PM PDT by JustaDumbBlonde ("When the government fears the people there is liberty ... " Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Kaslin
I think history will be kinder to him than the general opinion fed to us by the MSM today.

Record boom...enriching homeowners and small business. No attacks post September 11th, 2001.

That should be enough to get a B+...you'd think? But as Billy says..."But wait, there's more!!"

He also removed, with years of UN involvement, a dictator who had used WMDs on his own people and had nuclear ambitions. And was a friend and funder of terrorists. In that act, he freed 25 Million people from rape rooms and shredders.

So...he's a A+, baby!

He also restored dignity to the Office. Thank you Mr. President.
PS: Oh...and he loves baseball! ;^)

43 posted on 05/19/2008 6:50:37 PM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: Norman Bates
We have been worse stewards of the taxpayer’s dollars than the Clinton administration. There was no leadership on that issue.

Think, post 9/11; we were a 'wounded nation'. Think Bush treated our Country like a sick patient; that needed gifts and attention so as to get ourselves back in the game. . .and it was a different game for more than a couple of years.

May be just an excuse for some of the 'give-aways'; but think it was a factor.

44 posted on 05/19/2008 6:50:39 PM PDT by cricket (Damn Political Correctness; before it irretrievably, damns us all. . .)
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To: Griddlee

Michael Savage endorsed Jerry Brown. In 2006. California attorney general’s race. That’s not the worst part. This is: Moonbeam won and is now making plans to run for Governor again. And since he served his first two terms before term limits, Moonbeam can potentially run for ANOTHER two terms. Genius. Sheer genius.

Michael Savage should feel perfectly free to go to hell, as far as I’m concerned.


45 posted on 05/19/2008 6:51:42 PM PDT by RichInOC (Conservatives don't let conservatives vote Democrat.)
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To: Kaslin
"President Bush never said “Mission Accomplished” I wished you would read the whole transcript"

No, he didn't say those words. But he did stand in front of a huge banner that made that declaration and didn't say a word about what that banner actually represented. Then, when the left jumped all over the event, the President and/or his staff failed to set the record straight.

46 posted on 05/19/2008 6:53:47 PM PDT by JustaDumbBlonde ("When the government fears the people there is liberty ... " Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Kaslin

George W Bush is the best Republican POTUS the Democratic Party has ever had working for them.


47 posted on 05/19/2008 6:54:04 PM PDT by cva66snipe (Three Blind Rats. Three Blind Rats, See How They Run. See How They Run. Hillbomacain)
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To: Kaslin
Okay. I give President Bush credit for a successful war on terror, a mostly stable economy, and fabulous Supreme Court Justices.

But I still criticize him for expanding the size, scope and cost of government (that is simply undeniable), for contributing to rising food prices around the world (for most of the world corn is a primary source of food...President Bush wants us to put the crap in our gas tanks. Also undeniable.), and for continuing our dependence of foreign oil instead of telling environmentalists to kiss his ass and pressing towards drilling in Alaska and off the coasts of California and Florida.

I'll add more as they occur to me. I'm still an admirer of President Bush for the most part but I have lost a tremendous amount of respect for him.

I wish him and his family well, though.

48 posted on 05/19/2008 6:57:02 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (Could pacifists exist if there weren't people brave enough to go to war for their right to exist?)
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To: cricket

It was. Perhaps I’m being unfair. I was unflagging with Bush until 2005. Then the doubts began. When I look back I now see the excuses I made as they were - excuses. Perhaps I am being unfair. All I know is we have an election coming up and we have a President, who I actually like and think is a decent man, who has an approval rating somewhere below 35% and above 25% (LOL, I think) and the arrogant dems headed by Obama are able to drag him through the mud and by implication all of us and Americans have no problem with it. It’s very frustrating to be caught in this mix. Of course the number one issue with Americans is not spending but the war and I can see why it is.


49 posted on 05/19/2008 6:58:11 PM PDT by Norman Bates (Freepmail me to be part of the McCain List!)
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To: umgud

I give GW credit for the positives, including judicial nominees (although he has put up a few stinkers as well- thankfully one withdrew her name...), protection of the firearms industry, and cutting taxes.

But he has brought on a great deal of deserved and undeserved criticism- both in his poor judgment on several issues, and his lack of an aggressive PR campaign.

Conducting a war on terror while allowing the borders to basically remain open...bad policy.

Conducting a war on terror while coddling terrorists suvh as Hamas and the Palestinians...bad policy

Failing to publicly push the TRUTH about our energy issues into the spotlight, while failing to actually put a plan together in the first place - bad policy.

Failure to place blame where blame is due instead of being silent when the media attached every disaster and bad news on him...bad philosophy.

Failure to reign in out of control spending...very bad policy.

Some of the perceived problems or perceived failures of the Bush administration could have been averted had he just come out in a Reagan-esque way and openly sold the American people on his thinking. But his silence on many issues combined with inaction doomed many areas of what could have been a truly admirable presidency.


50 posted on 05/19/2008 6:58:25 PM PDT by TheBattman (LORD God, please give us a Christian Patriot with a backbone for President in 08, Amen.)
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