Posted on 05/19/2008 8:56:27 AM PDT by prman
With Republican John McCain throwing down the global warming gauntlet, conservatives and those others worried about the future of the Republic Party have reason for concern.
McCains most recent effort to define himself against Barack Obama came in what might easily be called his pie-in-the-sky speech, in which he peers into his crystal ball and foresees the political landscape after a four-year McCain presidency.
(Excerpt) Read more at newsmax.com ...
“Is McCain the Bob Dole of 2008?”
Nope. I respected Bob Dole. McCain? Not so much.
“Is McCain the Bob Dole of 2008?”
No. Bob Dole is a Republican.
Is McCain the 2008 Bob Dole?
Nope, he’s the 2008 Fritz Mondale.
Well, at least he doesn’t refer to himself in the third person...
Obama is the Ralph Nader of ‘08.
McCain is not Bob Dole...in that the election is not the same, Bob Dole was running against an incumbent President .. Bubba Clinton. McCain will be running against an appeaser one term Senator whose middle name is Hussein, and whose father ,and step father were muslim, and whose Pastor , Rev Wright cursed America in the pulpit and whose wife is not proud of America until Obama come lately has been able to defeat Shrillary in a Democratic Primary. Obama only has his race to run on, and has never served this country in any capacity other than his own self fulfilment.
Glib comments aside, the main difference is that McCain will crush his opponent and Vigara Bob lost. Anybody who thinks they see parells between the two is delusional or writing on a deadline and HAS to write something.
*****No. Bob Dole is a Republican.****
LOL (depressed) LOL (depressed) LOL & WTF! Idiot Americans are gonna get what they deserve and I’m old enough I don’t give a crap anymore. Eat leftist dirt and die you groveling pukes.
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Obama wants to talk to Amanutjob in Iran, because he understands him, from all his time with other nutjobs who hate Jews and America
Many felt that Dole was the default candidate in 1996 because they field was weak. McCain won a tough primary packed full of decent candidates fair a square.
I’m sure you’ve seen the pics of Obamessiah and his worshippers up in Oregonnuts.
You think McQueeg can crush that. When a substantial percentage of conservatives can’t even bring themselves to vote for him?
Delusional.
Im sure youve seen the pics of Obamessiah and his worshippers up in Oregonnuts.
You think McQueeg can crush that. When a substantial percentage of conservatives cant even bring themselves to vote for him?
Delusional.
I see you are new here, and that you seem to think that consevatives are so fragmented that they will not unite to make sure Obama is not elected as Commander in chief of our troops... now who is delusional?
Against Obama???
Please.
No.
Not only is Bob Dole a much nicer human being he is way taller.
Bob Dole would’ve won, had people like the Iranan Dirtbag been openly endorsing Clinton. There will be a staggering “negative vote” against Obama. What a shame that McCain will benefit from it.
The old noob slight. Sorry. Does not apply.
All you have to do is read this very site to realize the conservative movement is sliced and diced into several factions who almost hate each other and couldn’t agree on what’s for lunch.
Obama is poised for a big landslide. America has become a nation of fools. Ripe for destruction. Did you see what the CINOs did with the Farm Bill? DC is an outpost of hell and our pols are just crooks. Ben Franklin was right. We couldn’t keep our Republic and the present population doesn’t deserve one anyway.
McCain WOULD BE the new Bob Dole, except that Obama is decidedly NOT the new Bill Clinton, at least in terms of public popularity.
This whole election is like having a debate about which caliber round to use at your own execution.
D’Oh!
Quit holding back. Tell us how you really feel. LOL...:-)
Cannot say at this time however....Obama is the Jimmy Carter of 1976..
I am having a very, very difficult time not completely identifying with your comments. However, my earnest prayers are that whatever does happen - big train wreck or not - that this nation will wake up from its deep spiritual and moral slumber.
No. I didn't always agree with Mr. Dole, but I respect him and thought/think that he believed what he said.
In other ways, who knows?
McCains personal integrity has also come into question among conservative party members because the candidate has thrown them under the bus when it suited him McCain-Feingold, McCain-Kennedy, the Gang of 14, and the amnesty bill for illegal immigrants come to mind.
Combine this with is AGW cap & trade idea plus his "close Gitmo" rhetoric and it becomes hard to see much difference between McCain and any other liberal.
A lot of Republicans claim McCain will be better on Iraq and we owe it to the troops to vote for him. Will he be better? This guy's all over the place and flip flops as much as Kerry. Who knows what he'll do?
Others claim we need to support him because of the SCOTUS. Remember the Gang of 14? We'll get appointments to the left of the moderate-Republican-appointed-Souter.
Will conservative Republicans be able to rally the troops to oppose the stupidest legislation of a liberal republican? Nope. But the fight might destroy the party, though it may not matter. The GOP will take the blame from the electorate over the dismal economy that results from McCain's tax and spend liberalism and become even more minimalized.
A President Obama would give us a bad few years. A President McCain would give us a bad decade to a bad quarter century. I can't vote for either.
Why cant the Republican Party plumb the depths of its membership, identify and rally behind a younger, energetic and proven vote-getter who can inspire people and draw them to his side, as has Obama? For all the business acumen latent in the party, they are certainly the worst communicators in public life.
This is what I can't figure out. You can't tell me that the crop of candidates we've offered since Reagan represents the best and brightest of the party. Why can't we get a candidate who can communicate as well as a talk radio show host?
Sigh. This is so depressing and I'm usually a real optimist.
Right. At least Bob Dole was merely inept, and didn’t DELIBERATELY run against his own party.
And for precisely the reasons you outline, Obama will win. He has no record, and no ideas, thus, nothing to fear but fear itself.
That's the right-side counterpart to the Democrat Party, maybe?
NewsMax needs a proofreader, once it finds some competent writers.
Are you having an Obamagasm on Free Republic? how disgusting.
I hear you. I pray that God’s will falls upon this planet without restraint.

Same Democrat choice for President , different face, please insert Obama's face in the Dukasis Tank last occupied by John Kerry
In the 1980`s both Bob Dole and John McCain were Reagan conservatives. By 1996 Dole had forgotten all about Reaganism and McCain started his move towards mavarick-moderate status. Today, neither McCain or Dole can be called a conservative.
People forget that if Ross Perot had kept out of the race Dole might have won. Hope this lunny from Georgia doesn’t hurt McCain the same way.
Libertarians made the Democrats the majority party in the US Senate. Kennedy and Ried probably thank them every day — or at least they should.
No, Obama will most likely win, Ralph on the other hand never had a chance.
Obama's own grandmother will think twice about voting for him. Real juggernaut. </sarcasm>
Why insult Bob Dole this way?
Newt Gingrich correctly characterized Bob Dole as “the tax collector for the welfare stte.” He’s certainly no conservative. (Dr. Dobson, for one, said openly that he didn’t vote for Dole.)
But he’s a LOT better than McCain. (Remembe his TV speech against HillaryCare? “And that little box way down there? That’s you.”) Can you honestly see McCain ever doing something like that?
But by accepting and supporting the likes of Dole, conservatives got themselves to the point where the now have McCain as the nominee. And by supporting McCain, in three or four Presidential elections, you’ll have a noiminee who makes McCain look about as good as McCain makes Dole look now.
Obama is poised for a big landslide. America has become a nation of fools. Ripe for destruction.
^^
Yep, practice saying it now: President Obama.
That idea is so disgusting I can’t believe so many here would prefer it to President McCain.
And it sure seems this website is really REALLY hoping for a president obama over McCain.
Why?
Self hatred? I dunno. Childish ‘I can’t get all I want, so screw YOU!’? Yep
For the record, I've got my eyes wide open and I'm not new here. Thinking that there isn't going to be a massive number of conservatives who DON'T vote for McCain is wishful at best. McCain may win, but it isn't going to be because he has the support of conservatives.
As a veteran of the Conservatives vs. McCain thread wars of 2007 and 2008, I chuckle at your sides' continued inability to make a coherent argument without calling the other side names.
As the recent outpouring of raw, naked outrage on the NRCC web site makes both manifest and plain: insofar as the voting conservative base is concerned, he demonstrably has not done so.
Responsibility for the adamant rejection of John McCain by the conservative voting bloc, therefore, rests ultimately with the unsatisfactory candidate, and he alone.
It does no good whatsoever to hop up and down like so many amphetamined spider monkeys, agitatedly shrilling "OBAMA! OBAMA! OBAMAOBAMAOBAMA!!!," as Barack Obama is not running as the Republican candidate for the presidency this year; McCain is. He either closes the deal himself, based on his ability to persuade conservatives what he himself has to offer them (if anything)... or: he does not.
LOL!
I am not a “Barr guy” but that was funny.
Dole is a decent man. McLame is a lunatic.
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