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Immigration Raid Jars a Small Town
Washington Post Online ^ | Sunday, May 18, 2008 | Spencer S. Hsu

Posted on 05/18/2008 11:41:44 AM PDT by Reagan is King

POSTVILLE, Iowa -- Antonio Escobedo ran to get his wife Monday when he saw a helicopter circling overhead and immigration agents approaching the meatpacking plant where they both work. The couple hid for hours inside the plant before obtaining refuge in the pews and hall at St. Bridget's Catholic Church, where hundreds of other Guatemalan and Mexican families gathered, hoping to avoid arrest.

"I like my job. I like my work. I like it here in Iowa," said Escobedo, 38, an illegal immigrant from Yescas, Mexico, who has raised his three children for 11 years in Postville. "Are they mad because I'm working?"

Monday's raid on the Agriprocessors plant, in which 389 immigrants were arrested and many held at a cattle exhibit hall, was the Bush administration's largest crackdown on illegal workers at a single site. It has upended this tree-lined community, which calls itself "Hometown to the World." Half of the school system's 600 students were absent Tuesday, including 90 percent of Hispanic children, because their parents were arrested or in hiding.

Current and former officials of the Department of Homeland Security say its raid on the largest employer in northeast Iowa reflects the administration's decision to put pressure

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ice; illegal; immigration; policestate; raid; sobstory
"Are they mad because I'm working?"

No, we're mad because you snuck into our country illegally.

"They don't go after employers. They don't put CEOs in jail," complained the Postville Community Schools superintendent, David Strudthoff, 51, who said the sudden incarceration of more than 10 percent of the town's population of 2,300 "is like a natural disaster -- only this one is manmade."

I agree that CEO's need to be locked up but perhaps he's just mad because the loss of students will cut his schools per student funding. It doesn't sound like he's happy the laws are finally being enforced.

workers fear a chain of empty apartments, falling home prices and business downturns. The main street, punctuated by a single blinking traffic signal, has been quiet; a Guatemalan restaurant temporarily closed;

Oh cry me a river, that's what happens when you build your town up around illegal aliens.

and the storekeeper next door reported a steady trickle of families quietly booking flights to Central America via Chicago.

I thought the raids didn't work? If they're booking flights home I guess it does!

1 posted on 05/18/2008 11:41:44 AM PDT by Reagan is King
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To: Reagan is King

unemployment will become less than 4% when this is finished.


2 posted on 05/18/2008 11:46:18 AM PDT by television is just wrong
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To: Reagan is King
and the storekeeper next door reported a steady trickle of families quietly booking flights to Central America via Chicago.

So much for the nonsense that you can't deport them all.

Make it difficult enough for them, and they'll go back on their own. And make it difficult on employers, and they won't come here in the first place.

Attrition by enforcement works!

3 posted on 05/18/2008 11:47:59 AM PDT by oldbill
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To: Reagan is King

“. “Are they mad because I’m working?””

They really don’t get it do they?

Yo! Antonio, if 10 million US Citizens bounced over your border and demanded the Mexican government (at YOUR expense) raise their anchor babies, educate them, provide medical care and took your kids’ jobs, and kill 25 of you a day...would YOU be mad?


4 posted on 05/18/2008 11:49:12 AM PDT by AuntB (Vote Obama! ..........Because ya can't blame 'the man' when you are the 'man'.... Wanda Sikes)
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To: Reagan is King
"I like my job. I like my work. I like it here in Iowa," said Escobedo, 38, an illegal immigrant from Yescas, Mexico, who has raised his three children for 11 years in Postville. "Are they mad because I'm working?"

Here this dirt bag is, stealing from the American tax payer and he wants to know if we are mad. You are damn right, now go the H home.

5 posted on 05/18/2008 11:50:02 AM PDT by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: oldbill

“Attrition by enforcement works! “

It’s sure working in Oklahoma, oldbill.


6 posted on 05/18/2008 11:50:22 AM PDT by AuntB (Vote Obama! ..........Because ya can't blame 'the man' when you are the 'man'.... Wanda Sikes)
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To: Reagan is King
Current and former officials of the Department of Homeland Security

Never has so many been paid so much to do so little. That is the full description of home land security.

7 posted on 05/18/2008 11:53:19 AM PDT by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: Reagan is King

“.....and the storekeeper next door reported a steady trickle of families quietly booking flights to Central America via Chicago.”

I wish.

They’re booking flights here, to “Sanctuary Seattle.”


8 posted on 05/18/2008 11:53:57 AM PDT by zeestephen
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To: Reagan is King
Already posted.

Immigration Raid Jars a Small Town
9 posted on 05/18/2008 11:55:05 AM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: Reagan is King
I agree that CEO's need to be locked up

Please don't buy into such left-wing nonsense. Law enforcement is not the job of some guy who runs a meat packing factory, or other business. It is not his job to determine whether papers shown to him are counterfeit or not; or whether the social security numbers he is given by people he hires are legitimate. (I would agree that paying people "off the books" is an evasion of the law.) In today's AliceInWonderland environment though, he could probably be sued successfully for damages for not hiring someone who appears to be a Mexican if it would turn out that that person were here legally.

No. If the Law Enforcement folks know that the business owner has illegal aliens working for him, that means they know who the illegal aliens are. Let's deport them, and not criminalize businesses that need unskilled labor.

ML/NJ

10 posted on 05/18/2008 11:55:46 AM PDT by ml/nj
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To: Reagan is King
"said Escobedo, 38, an illegal immigrant from Yescas, Mexico..."

Holy shi'ite Batman! The author referrred to the undocumented worker as an "illegal immigrant."

11 posted on 05/18/2008 12:03:29 PM PDT by Cobra64 (www.BulletBras.net)
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To: Reagan is King; Abathar; Abcdefg; Abram; Abundy; akatel; albertp; AlexandriaDuke; ...
..the sudden incarceration of more than 10 percent of the town's population of 2,300 "is like a natural disaster -- only this one is manmade."

Libertarian ping! To be added or removed freepmail me or post a message here.
12 posted on 05/18/2008 12:06:12 PM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
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All CEO’s and hiring managers that repeatedly and knowingly hired illegals should be locked up too.


13 posted on 05/18/2008 12:06:26 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, John 11:25, 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13, John 6:69)
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To: Reagan is King
I've spoken of the shining city all my political life, but I don't know if I ever quite communicated what I saw when I said it. But in my mind it was a tall proud city built on rocks stronger than oceans, wind-swept, God-blessed, and teeming with people of all kinds living in harmony and peace, a city with free ports that hummed with commerce and creativity, and if there had to be city walls, the walls had doors and the doors were open to anyone with the will and the heart to get here. That's how I saw it and see it still.

And how stands the city on this winter night? More prosperous, more secure, and happier than it was eight years ago. But more than that; after 200 years, two centuries, she still stands strong and true on the granite ridge, and her glow has held steady no matter what storm. And she's still a beacon, still a magnet for all who must have freedom, for all the pilgrims from all the lost places who are hurtling through the darkness, toward home.


-Ronald Reagan
14 posted on 05/18/2008 12:10:46 PM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
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To: Reagan is King
These little raids with air show are simply to fool the foolish into believing the government is doing something . Treat the employers with the same zeal for forfeiture that awaits meth and marijuana producers or even deer poachers .
15 posted on 05/18/2008 12:36:51 PM PDT by kbennkc (For those who have fought for it , freedom has a flavor the protected will never know)
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To: Reagan is King
"Immigration Raid Jars Small Town," "Small Town Residents Living in Fear," "Raids Cause Panic in Small Town."

These sob-story articles appear like clockwork after any illegal employer gets raided. Like pushing buttons on a jukebox.

16 posted on 05/18/2008 1:11:24 PM PDT by VR-21
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To: ml/nj

Oh please. These companies know exactly what is going on. They advertize the jobs in Spanish language media, and everybody on the floor speaks Spanish. And they are located in states with traditionally almost no Hispanics. And they are the first to protest increased enforcement.

And yes, I really would like to see what “papers” they have on file. How many workers are using the same Social Security number? How many have valid drivers licenses from the state they are located in? Or are they accepting Consular Metricula cards?


17 posted on 05/18/2008 1:29:10 PM PDT by Hugin (Mecca delenda est!)
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To: ml/nj
Please don't buy into such left-wing nonsense. Law enforcement is not the job of some guy who runs a meat packing factory, or other business.

Does that mean that gun dealers will also not be required to do a back ground check. If it is fair for one it is fair for the other.

Put the plant owners and the board of directors in jail, and make them pay personally all unpaid medical bills at the local hospitals for the past twenty years..

18 posted on 05/18/2008 1:36:17 PM PDT by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: Hugin
How many workers are using the same Social Security number?

Come on. These numbers are filed on a regular basis with the IRS. That is, the Federal government. If they want to check for duplicates and frauds, they are the ones with the ability to do so. But they don't, I guess, and you would rather see the bureaucrats go free and jail the businessman. Count me out. Why don't you instead look to jail some bureaucrats. It would help us all.

ML/NJ

19 posted on 05/18/2008 1:45:09 PM PDT by ml/nj
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Does that mean that gun dealers will also not be required to do a back ground check.

I'm against gun background checks. I think they are exceedingly stupid.

How about background checks for being able to drive on the Jersey Turnpike. Or maybe to buy food? That way we could annoy even more law abiding citizens.

People like you who want to punish businessmen really belong over at du.com.

ML/NJ

20 posted on 05/18/2008 1:52:12 PM PDT by ml/nj
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To: Reagan is King

Be sure and check out the first thread:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2017588/posts


21 posted on 05/18/2008 1:53:48 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (Buy a Mac ...)
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To: ml/nj

No I want business owners to care for the country and the people who built it, above the almighty dollar. Not too much to ask is it!!!


22 posted on 05/18/2008 1:59:26 PM PDT by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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But we don’t like you illegals here.

Bye


23 posted on 05/18/2008 2:34:23 PM PDT by wastedyears (Freedom is the right of all sentient beings. - Optimus Prime)
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To: org.whodat
I want business owners to care for the country and the people who built it, above the almighty dollar. Not too much to ask is it!!!

Hillary. Is that you? (Maybe all business owners should be forced to serve in the military too?)

ML/NJ

24 posted on 05/18/2008 2:43:04 PM PDT by ml/nj
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To: Reagan is King

But what did the find in the jars?


25 posted on 05/18/2008 2:45:08 PM PDT by Puddleglum
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So are you saying that American business men should not care about their country. Do tell, and the ones that do, you compare to Hillary. WoW!!


26 posted on 05/18/2008 2:45:57 PM PDT by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: Puddleglum
d’oh, “but what did they find in the jars?”

Okay, it struck me as funny for the second it took me to type it and misspell a word.

27 posted on 05/18/2008 2:46:10 PM PDT by Puddleglum
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To: Reagan is King
get me a box of tissues, this such a sad story.......

Oops....did I say Tissues?...I meant, get me a box of ammo.

28 posted on 05/18/2008 2:47:45 PM PDT by gitmogrunt (You didn't ask, so I posted it anyway...........waiting for the backlash........)
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To: org.whodat
It's really nice that you want to deputize these businessmen. Could we at least fire all the people we are now paying whose job it is to identify people who are here illegally?

ML/NJ

29 posted on 05/18/2008 2:55:50 PM PDT by ml/nj
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It's really nice that you want to deputize these businessmen.

LOL, you apparently do know the scope of how many different business that already have such requirements. The firearms thing was just an attention getter. Try the ones that government puts on trucking companies and their CDL holders and the hazmat requirements and you Pi**m** over making sure that that they have the correct and legal SSI number. Grow up.

30 posted on 05/18/2008 3:32:41 PM PDT by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: ml/nj

Social Security already HAS done this legwork. They already KNOW how many SSN’s are being used in illegal manners.

They refuse to share the information with the IRS and they have been reluctant (until recently) to send out non-compliance letters to employers.

The SSA/IRS should have the ability to tell by the second or third month of employment that there is an issue in the SSN’s filed. As it is, the typical time between when you hire a worker with forged paperwork and when you get a non-compliant letter from the SSA is about four years.


31 posted on 05/18/2008 7:32:27 PM PDT by NVDave
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Why don't you instead look to jail some bureaucrats.

You have my vote.
32 posted on 05/18/2008 9:37:22 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: Army Air Corps
My faith in FR is renewed!

ML/NJ

33 posted on 05/19/2008 4:17:44 AM PDT by ml/nj
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Can we at least criminalize businesses who willfully, knowingly, and will full knowledge and aforethought, recruit and hire illegal immigrants?

Those that pay their illegal immigrant employees slave-labor wages with the knowledge that they have no legal recourse whatsoever to challenge such abuse?


34 posted on 05/19/2008 5:59:47 AM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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Sure. I have no problem with that. In fact, I would favor it.

ML/NJ

35 posted on 05/19/2008 6:29:59 AM PDT by ml/nj
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BTW, if there are such businesses, deporting all or most of their employees would probably put them out of business.

ML/NJ

36 posted on 05/19/2008 6:34:01 AM PDT by ml/nj
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BTW, if there are such businesses, deporting all or most of their employees would probably put them out of business.

For a week, maybe? Until they have time to hire a full replacement of their staff from among the estimated 21.5 million illegal immigrants in the US now or the hundreds of thousands of new illegal immigrants entering every year.

37 posted on 05/19/2008 7:45:56 AM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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For a week, maybe?

Forever, I suspect. Even the simplest jobs require some training so each turnover costs money, and if the wetbacks see that everyone who starts to work for Xyzzy Mfg disappears they wouldn't be too eager to sign up themselves.

To my mind this is all very simple. The whole immigration mess is the result of all sorts of government people turning their backs on the problem. E.g. if the guards on the border had orders to shoot to kill people who cross at unauthorized places as the invaders they are, probably no more than ten people would be killed. (fewer than die in the deserts) Word would get around that the gravy train was over and that would be the end.

But it's so much easier to blame eeeevil businessmen, isn't it?

ML/NJ

38 posted on 05/19/2008 8:27:03 AM PDT by ml/nj
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