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Black robes trash traditional marriage
WorldNetDaily ^ | May 15, 2008 | By Bob Unruh

Posted on 05/16/2008 7:44:07 AM PDT by DaveyB

The California Supreme Court today trashed society's traditional institution of marriage, opening it up for same-sex duos because retaining the historic definition "cannot properly be viewed as a compelling state interest."

In a 4-3 decision replete with concurring and dissenting opinions filed by individual members of the court, the majority opinion determined state laws specifying marriage as being between a man and a woman were unconstitutional....

"It is certainly disappointing that the court, in declaring a right to same-sex marriage in the California Constitution, has shown an outrageous lack of respect for a majority of California voters and ignored a long history of legal precedent supporting traditional marriage," said legal counsel Jennifer Monk of Advocates for Faith and Freedom, one of the organizations that worked on the case.

(Excerpt) Read more at worldnetdaily.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: activists; homosexual; marriage; sodom
"Power in the hands of people who are accountable to no one is still a formula for disaster." -- Dr. Thomas Sowell
1 posted on 05/16/2008 7:44:07 AM PDT by DaveyB
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To: DaveyB

You need to add “again” to the end of the title, since the Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court was the first to do the same thing.


2 posted on 05/16/2008 7:47:13 AM PDT by johnthebaptistmoore (Vote for conservatives AT ALL POLITICAL LEVELS! Encourage all others to do the same on November 4!)
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To: DaveyB

I have a three year-old Daughter.

I wonder what kind of perversion the courts will legitimize by the time she’s a grown woman.


3 posted on 05/16/2008 7:48:59 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (Average White Conservative)
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To: reagan_fanatic

Better start teaching her how to defend herself. If gender will no longer be a factor in marriage, how long do you want to bet age will be?


4 posted on 05/16/2008 7:51:47 AM PDT by RWB Patriot
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To: reagan_fanatic
I have a three year-old Daughter.

I wonder what kind of perversion the courts will legitimize by the time she’s a grown woman.

That's a good question. It's definitely scary.

5 posted on 05/16/2008 7:52:01 AM PDT by unkus
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To: DaveyB

Only a matter of time before “man marries dog” and other combinations.


6 posted on 05/16/2008 7:52:27 AM PDT by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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To: DaveyB
The California Supreme Court today trashed society's traditional institution of marriage, opening it up for same-sex duos because retaining the historic definition "cannot properly be viewed as a compelling state interest."

As long as any judge or body of judges do not look to God and look no further than each other, any human act ultimately can and will be considered acceptable, since they have become their own definition of morality, their own definition of right and wrong.

7 posted on 05/16/2008 7:52:30 AM PDT by kittycatonline.com
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To: DaveyB
These judges need to be impeached. I californication law protects them from that, the law needs to be changed!
8 posted on 05/16/2008 7:52:42 AM PDT by Edgerunner (At the heart of every absurdity, lies a liberal lie)
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To: kittycatonline.com

Remember there was a time when Republicans didn’t want to legislate morality, those days seem so long ago.


9 posted on 05/16/2008 7:55:32 AM PDT by Philly Nomad
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To: DaveyB

Crooks and dictators passing as judges have become the modus operandi of the left to thwart legislation and a representative form of government answerable to people. These black robes are traitors to a free society.


10 posted on 05/16/2008 7:57:16 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot ((Hallmarks of Liberalism: Ingratitude and Envy))
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To: DaveyB
As much as I oppose the concept of gay marriage the California Supreme Court got this one right. They interpreted the state constitution as written, not as ideologues on either side wanted them to. They ruled based upon strict language originated to strike down the ban on interracial marriage.

The voters do have recourse, though. There will be a ballot initiative on the November ballot to revise the state constitution to define marriage as a union between a man and a woman.

11 posted on 05/16/2008 7:59:00 AM PDT by Natural Law
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To: Edgerunner

Michael Savage went completely crazy yesterday right after the ruling came down. I have never heard him scream like that on the radio EVER! It was awesome — got my blood boiling. “We the People” of California spoke our will on this matter — and four elected “prostitutes” have bashed our constitutional rights! Love it!


12 posted on 05/16/2008 7:59:53 AM PDT by adopt4Christ (The main thing is to keep the main thing the main thing.)
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To: Natural Law
"As much as I oppose the concept of gay marriage the California Supreme Court got this one right. They interpreted the state constitution as written, not as ideologues on either side wanted them to. They ruled based upon strict language originated to strike down the ban on interracial marriage."

How do you know this? Sources please...

13 posted on 05/16/2008 8:05:02 AM PDT by EnigmaticAnomaly (Proud member of the largest 'Hate Group' in the USA...The Vast Right Wing Conspiracy")
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To: reagan_fanatic

If marriage is no longer defined as one man and one woman, poligamy is the next “logical” step. How can they prevent it since they have thrown out the previous definition?


14 posted on 05/16/2008 8:07:22 AM PDT by BubbaBasher (No matter who wins, we lose.)
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To: reagan_fanatic

I have a three year-old Daughter.

I wonder what kind of perversion the courts will legitimize by the time she’s a grown woman.
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I am from Massachusetts, and I would strongly suggest that you might want to consider homeschooling her, because cramming gay marriage down the throats of the American people against their will doesn’t stop with a “judicial fiat” from a handful of black-robes who justify their pronunciamentos with the excuse that allowing gay marriage “isn’t going to hurt anyone.”

Case in point.......DAVID PARKER!!!

“Lexington, Mass., father of 6-year-old arrested, spends night in jail over objections to homosexual curriculum in son’s kindergarten class.”

“Because of the same-sex marriage law people are treating this as a mandate to teach the youngest of children.”
- David Parker, parent of 6-year-old, arrested Apr. 27, 2005

http://www.article8.org/docs/news_events/parker/main.htm


15 posted on 05/16/2008 8:09:34 AM PDT by Sons of Union Vets (No taxation without representation!)
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To: BubbaBasher
Another court once did redefine "human" -- that was the ruling in Dred Scott. It ruled that blacks are not full humans.

Damn that ruling then, and as damned this ruling now.

16 posted on 05/16/2008 8:09:59 AM PDT by bvw
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To: DaveyB

It needs to be easier to impeach justices. The good news is that you can do all your wedding shower shopping at Cabela’s. :)


17 posted on 05/16/2008 8:10:38 AM PDT by Dead Dog
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To: reagan_fanatic

Mine is three also. I find my self repeating this daily :”In the world, not of the world”


18 posted on 05/16/2008 8:11:34 AM PDT by Dead Dog
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To: Edgerunner
These judges need to be impeached - or maybe 4 of them - three did the right thing
19 posted on 05/16/2008 8:12:47 AM PDT by SF Republican
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To: Philly Nomad
Remember there was a time when Republicans didn’t want to legislate morality, those days seem so long ago.

That phrase "legislate morality", you know what, all legislation is morality. That's what law is, morality codified.

20 posted on 05/16/2008 8:18:37 AM PDT by kittycatonline.com
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To: DaveyB

My wife works for the state, since we were living together before we were married she tried to get me on her insurance program. It didn’t work, we would have had to be same sex partners.


21 posted on 05/16/2008 8:33:52 AM PDT by Haddit (A Hunter Conservative)
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To: reagan_fanatic

Follow up on the David Parker story.
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“David Parker and other parents file federal civil rights lawsuit against Town of Lexington and numerous public school officials over teaching homosexuality to young children.
A groundbreaking legal action for the rights of parents!

On Thursday, April 27, 2006, Lexington parents David Parker and his wife, along with Rob and Robin Wirthlin, filed a major federal civil rights lawsuit in United States District Court in Boston.

The suit is against the Town of Lexington, and both individually and as public officials: Superintendent of Schools Paul Ash; former Superintendent of Schools William Hurley; School Committee Members Helen Cohen, Thomas Diaz, Olga Guttag, Scott Burson, and Thomas Griffith; Director of Education Andre Ravenelle; Health Education Coordinator Jennifer Wolfrum; Estabrook Principal Joni Jay; and second-grade teacher Heather Kramer.

According to a press release from the attorneys, the lawsuit has three counts: first, it alleges violations of the Federal Civil Rights of the plaintiffs by the defendants; second, it alleges violations of the plaintiffs’ Massachusetts Civil Rights; and third, violation of the State’s Parental Notification law [which we wrote and got passed in 1996] which ensures notification to parents prior to discussion with students regarding human sexuality issues.

The suit is seeking, among other things, injunctive relief, compensatory damages, punitive damages, exemplary damages, and attorney’s fees........read more

http://www.massresistance.org/docs/parker_lawsuit/filing_2006/press_conf_042705.html

Here are the consequences in Massachusetts of the Judicial usurpation of authority:
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“As WorldNetDaily reported, the controversy for the Wirthlins began March 24 when their second-grade son came home from school and repeated to his mother a story read to him earlier that day about men getting married to each other. His teacher had read the book “King and King” to the class, in which a prince won’t marry any princesses but instead falls in love with a princess’ brother and marries him in a big palace wedding.

The Wirthlins were particularly upset the teacher, Heather Kramer, argued parents could not opt out of the reading because same-sex marriage is legal in the state.

http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=49946
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More links............

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=54420

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Estabrook_School

http://kevinjthompson.wordpress.com/2007/12/28/an-update-in-the-david-parker-case/

http://www.enterstageright.com/archive/articles/0805/0805parrights.htm

http://www.davidparkerfund.org/html/2008/02/radio-interview-with-david-parker.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Estabrook_School

http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=52311


22 posted on 05/16/2008 8:50:15 AM PDT by Sons of Union Vets (No taxation without representation!)
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To: BubbaBasher

“If marriage is no longer defined as one man and one woman, poligamy is the next “logical” step. How can they prevent it since they have thrown out the previous definition?”

If we defined marriage as between any 2 humans, some would complain that it discriminates against animals. After all, gay animals need the protection of marriage too.


23 posted on 05/16/2008 8:54:34 AM PDT by Hacklehead (Crush the liberals, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentation of the hippies.)
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To: DaveyB

My German shepard wants to marry my neighbors cat...Can the California Supreme court help?.....


24 posted on 05/16/2008 8:54:42 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: Haddit

“My wife works for the state, since we were living together before we were married she tried to get me on her insurance program. It didn’t work, we would have had to be same sex partners.”

Ignoring the fact that a “conservative” admits shacking up with his gf, these days it’s possible to be designated as whatever sex you want. You could have insisted that you were a female named “Shirley” and claimed to be in same sex relationship. It’s just a matter of thinking creatively.


25 posted on 05/16/2008 9:00:18 AM PDT by Hacklehead (Crush the liberals, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentation of the hippies.)
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To: Sons of Union Vets
It's an uphill battle all the way around. The gay lobby has a very effective shaming tool that they use: publicly labeling anyone who disagrees with them as ‘intolerant’ or ‘bigoted’. No one wants to be identified as such, so they either keep silent or they are hounded and persecuted.

For the gay lobby and the left, free thought and free speech is a decidedly one-way street.

26 posted on 05/16/2008 9:01:48 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (Average White Conservative)
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To: reagan_fanatic

“For the gay lobby and the left, free thought and free speech is a decidedly one-way street.”.....

You bet!....right off the cliff.


27 posted on 05/16/2008 9:17:47 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: reagan_fanatic

“For the gay lobby and the left, free thought and free speech is a decidedly one-way street.”
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You will get no argument from me there, reagan_fanatic. Here is another nightmare that is happening here in the “gay state.” (formerly known as “the Bay State”) thanks in part to a judicial fiat from a handful of agenda-driven black-robed swine.
_______________________________________________________

“Boston Children’s Hospital Opens “Transgender” Children’s Clinic
Will reportedly offer the treatments to children as young as seven years old”

http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2007/may/07051806.html

“Children’s Hospital Boston Offers “Sex Change” to Adolescents
“They’ll probably be infertile” says “sex change” doctor”

http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2008/apr/08042107.html

The following article begs the question......how can anyone be sure that seven-year-olds presenting themselves as candidates for transgendering surgery didn’t get indoctrinated into their sexually befuddled mindset by manipulative politically correct teachers in kindergarten???
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Children’s Hospital Boston offers “sex change” to adolescents
Endocrinologist Norman Spack of the Children’s Hospital Boston (CHB) is continuing to promote the Gender Management Service Clinic, whose services include giving “transgendered” children puberty-delaying drugs so that they can choose the gender of their body.

“Unique in the Western hemisphere, the clinic will also care for children and young adults who present as transgendered - those who have no known anatomic or biochemical disorder, yet feel like a member of the opposite sex,” stated the Pediatric Views, a publication of the CHB........read more...........

http://www.christiantelegraph.com/issue1770.html

BRAVE NEW SCHOOLS
3rd-graders asked to help classmate in gender change
Parents given 1-day notice of presentation explaining boy would now wear girl clothes

Posted: May 10, 2008
6:55 pm Eastern

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.phpfa=PAGE.view&pageId=63978

And this from World Net Daily......
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Children’s hospital launches sex change for kids program
‘This isn’t conjecture, it’s happening now’

Posted: April 19, 2008
11:45 pm Eastern

By Bob Unruh
© 2008 WorldNetDaily

A doctor at the renowned Children’s Hospital Boston has launched a new program to drug children to delay puberty so they can decide whether they want a male or a female body, according to a report today in the Boston Globe.

Pediatric endocrinologist Norman Spack, 64, says he started the Gender Management Service Clinic because he found himself encountering 20-somethings who were “transgendered” and in good shape socially, “but they were having trouble getting their physique to conform to their identity.

“I knew the 20-somethings could have better chances of passing if they were treated earlier,” he said.

“We don’t think that demonic is too strong a word to describe this,” said a statement from the pro-family Mass Resistance organization. “It brings us thoughts of the Nazi doctors who thought they were doing good things.”

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?pageId=62010

Is this our future? Boston Children’s Hospital doctor operates clinic to change gender of prepubescent children - featured in Boston Globe.
Given powerful hormones to delay puberty, for body mutilation operations later
April 18, 2008
We don’t think that demonic is too strong a word to describe this. It brings us thoughts of the Nazi doctors who thought they were doing good things.

As MassResistance has reported in the past, this is going on at the world-renowned Children’s Hospital in Boston - not some backwater clinic. This is the elite of the medical profession. And the Boston Globe treats this with clinical nonchalance. This article is so disturbing that it’s difficult to say more.

http://www.massresistance.org/docs/gen/08b/spack/index.html

More links............

http://www.childrenshospital.org/clinicalservices/Site2280/mainpageS2280P4.html

http://massresistance.blogspot.com/2007/07/childrens-hospital-boston-trolling-for.html


28 posted on 05/16/2008 9:42:22 AM PDT by Sons of Union Vets (No taxation without representation!)
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To: reagan_fanatic

“For the gay lobby and the left, free thought and free speech is a decidedly one-way street.”
_____________________________________

You will get no argument from me there, reagan_fanatic. Here is another nightmare that is happening here in the “gay state.” (formerly known as “the Bay State”) thanks in part to a judicial fiat from a handful of agenda-driven black-robed swine.
_______________________________________________________

“Boston Children’s Hospital Opens “Transgender” Children’s Clinic
Will reportedly offer the treatments to children as young as seven years old”

http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2007/may/07051806.html

“Children’s Hospital Boston Offers “Sex Change” to Adolescents
“They’ll probably be infertile” says “sex change” doctor”

http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2008/apr/08042107.html

The following article begs the question......how can anyone be sure that seven-year-olds presenting themselves as candidates for transgendering surgery didn’t get indoctrinated into their sexually befuddled mindset by manipulative politically correct teachers in kindergarten???
_____________________________________________________

Children’s Hospital Boston offers “sex change” to adolescents
Endocrinologist Norman Spack of the Children’s Hospital Boston (CHB) is continuing to promote the Gender Management Service Clinic, whose services include giving “transgendered” children puberty-delaying drugs so that they can choose the gender of their body.

“Unique in the Western hemisphere, the clinic will also care for children and young adults who present as transgendered - those who have no known anatomic or biochemical disorder, yet feel like a member of the opposite sex,” stated the Pediatric Views, a publication of the CHB........read more...........

http://www.christiantelegraph.com/issue1770.html

BRAVE NEW SCHOOLS
3rd-graders asked to help classmate in gender change
Parents given 1-day notice of presentation explaining boy would now wear girl clothes

Posted: May 10, 2008
6:55 pm Eastern

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.phpfa=PAGE.view&pageId=63978

And this from World Net Daily......
________________________________________________

Children’s hospital launches sex change for kids program
‘This isn’t conjecture, it’s happening now’

Posted: April 19, 2008
11:45 pm Eastern

By Bob Unruh
© 2008 WorldNetDaily

A doctor at the renowned Children’s Hospital Boston has launched a new program to drug children to delay puberty so they can decide whether they want a male or a female body, according to a report today in the Boston Globe.

Pediatric endocrinologist Norman Spack, 64, says he started the Gender Management Service Clinic because he found himself encountering 20-somethings who were “transgendered” and in good shape socially, “but they were having trouble getting their physique to conform to their identity.

“I knew the 20-somethings could have better chances of passing if they were treated earlier,” he said.

“We don’t think that demonic is too strong a word to describe this,” said a statement from the pro-family Mass Resistance organization. “It brings us thoughts of the Nazi doctors who thought they were doing good things.”

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?pageId=62010

Is this our future? Boston Children’s Hospital doctor operates clinic to change gender of prepubescent children - featured in Boston Globe.
Given powerful hormones to delay puberty, for body mutilation operations later
April 18, 2008
We don’t think that demonic is too strong a word to describe this. It brings us thoughts of the Nazi doctors who thought they were doing good things.

As MassResistance has reported in the past, this is going on at the world-renowned Children’s Hospital in Boston - not some backwater clinic. This is the elite of the medical profession. And the Boston Globe treats this with clinical nonchalance. This article is so disturbing that it’s difficult to say more.

http://www.massresistance.org/docs/gen/08b/spack/index.html

More links............

http://www.childrenshospital.org/clinicalservices/Site2280/mainpageS2280P4.html

http://massresistance.blogspot.com/2007/07/childrens-hospital-boston-trolling-for.html


29 posted on 05/16/2008 9:42:40 AM PDT by Sons of Union Vets (No taxation without representation!)
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To: Sons of Union Vets

oops! Sorry, I don’t know how that got posted twice.....but in this case, two is definitely better than none!


30 posted on 05/16/2008 9:47:05 AM PDT by Sons of Union Vets (No taxation without representation!)
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To: EnigmaticAnomaly
"How do you know this? Sources please...

Links to the oral arguments and the written opinions can be found at:

http://www.courtinfo.ca.gov/courts/supreme/highprofile/

This is a very perplexing and vexing case for many so-called conservatives. While railing against legislation from the bench and activist judges they too often shriek like scalded cats when the Republican appointed, conservative justices rule on the law instead of the conservative agenda.

31 posted on 05/16/2008 10:18:42 AM PDT by Natural Law
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