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Everyone in favor, say yargh!
The Boston Globe ^ | May 11, 2008 | Joanna Weiss

Posted on 05/15/2008 3:29:13 PM PDT by forkinsocket

AS A CHILD, Peter Leeson was pirate-obsessed. He cherished the ruby-eyed skull ring he got at Disney World, after riding Pirates of the Caribbean. He took up a collection of coconut pirate heads. He lapped up the pirate themes in "Goonies." And when he grew up to be an economics professor, and started studying pirate society, he found a new excuse for admiration. Pirates, it turns out, were pioneers of democracy.

Presidential candidates, take note: Long before they made their way into the workings of modern government, the democratic tenets we hold so dear were used to great effect on pirate ships. Checks and balances. Social insurance. Freedom of expression. So Leeson, an economics professor at George Mason University, will argue in his upcoming book, "The Invisible Hook: The Hidden Economics of Pirates."

Yes, those stereotypically lawless rum-chuggers turned out to be ardent democrats. And in their strange enlightenment, Leeson sees the answer to a riddle about human nature, worthy of "Lord of the Flies" or an early episode of "Lost." In the absence of government and law enforcement, what becomes of a band of men with a noted criminal streak? Do they descend into violence and chaos?

The pirates who roamed the seas in the late 17th and early 18th centuries developed a floating civilization that, in terms of political philosophy, was well ahead of its time. The notion of checks and balances, in which each branch of government limits the other's power, emerged in England in the Glorious Revolution of 1688. But by the 1670s, and likely before, pirates were developing democratic charters, establishing balance of power on their ships, and developing a nascent form of worker's compensation: A lost limb entitled one to payment from the booty [...]

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TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: anarchists; beyejimawkinsmate; democracy; doasthouwill; pirates; rapepillageplunder; revisionisthistory
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1 posted on 05/15/2008 3:29:13 PM PDT by forkinsocket
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To: forkinsocket

This thread is worthless without photos for the ladies!

2 posted on 05/15/2008 3:34:29 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

OMG, Thank you, thank you, THANK YOU!!! I’d be his wench anyday, lol.


3 posted on 05/15/2008 3:36:45 PM PDT by ktscarlett66 (Face it girls....I'm older and I have more insurance....)
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To: forkinsocket

So the episodes of rape and murder by Gilles de Rais (Bluebeard), the slave smuggling and bounty on Gov. Clairborne’s head by Jean Lafitte, etc. are overstated?


4 posted on 05/15/2008 3:38:59 PM PDT by weegee (Vote NO on Marxism in 2008.)
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To: forkinsocket
Meaning no disrespect, I am reminded of the kid's riddle:

"What kind of movies do pirates watch?"

"Aaarrrrgh-rated", of course!

5 posted on 05/15/2008 3:39:19 PM PDT by mil-vet (the difference between democrats & terrorists is their means of destroying freedom)
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To: ktscarlett66

Same movie, different hunk. :)

6 posted on 05/15/2008 3:44:28 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: mil-vet
Meaning no disrespect, I am reminded of the kid's riddle:

How do you know if you're a pirate?

You just Arrr...

7 posted on 05/15/2008 3:47:37 PM PDT by Ol' Dan Tucker (While the truncheon may be used in lieu of conversation, words will always retain their power.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

What a dilemma for poor Miss Swann. (What I wouldn’t give, to be in her shoes...;) Although Depp has always appealed to me, way pre-POTC days.


8 posted on 05/15/2008 3:52:03 PM PDT by ktscarlett66 (Face it girls....I'm older and I have more insurance....)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

I’ll have to keep my daughter away from this thread or I’ll never get to use the computer again.


9 posted on 05/15/2008 3:53:59 PM PDT by Redcloak (The 2nd Amendment: It's not about sporting goods.)
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To: Ol' Dan Tucker

“Do what you want `cause a pirate is free,

“YOU ARE A PIRATE!”

;^)


10 posted on 05/15/2008 3:54:35 PM PDT by elcid1970 (My cartridges are dipped in pig grease.)
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To: forkinsocket
Image hosted by Photobucket.comARRRrrrr...

Capt. Pissgums and his Perverted Pirates vs the Dyke's!!!

Pathos on the High Seas, below decks... on his ship the Quivering Thigh

11 posted on 05/15/2008 3:57:47 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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To: Chode

Avast, shipmate! Be ye Jim 'Awkins, sez I?


12 posted on 05/15/2008 4:11:02 PM PDT by Frank Sheed (Fr. V. R. Capodanno, Lt, USN, Catholic Chaplain. 3rd/5th, 1st Marine Div., FMF. MOH, posthumously.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin


... and one for the gentlemen!
13 posted on 05/15/2008 4:12:59 PM PDT by FortWorthPatriot (No better friend, no worse enemy)
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To: FortWorthPatriot


Or maybe two...
14 posted on 05/15/2008 4:22:21 PM PDT by FortWorthPatriot (No better friend, no worse enemy)
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To: FortWorthPatriot


...or three...
15 posted on 05/15/2008 4:23:58 PM PDT by FortWorthPatriot (No better friend, no worse enemy)
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To: FortWorthPatriot


Okay, okay. Four.
16 posted on 05/15/2008 4:25:24 PM PDT by FortWorthPatriot (No better friend, no worse enemy)
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To: elcid1970

"But I don't wanna be a pirate!" < /seinfeld >

17 posted on 05/15/2008 4:41:02 PM PDT by weegee (Vote NO on Marxism in 2008.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

A MUCH better choice......


18 posted on 05/15/2008 4:43:35 PM PDT by Politicalmom (Better a leftist Dem with energized GOP opposition, than a leftist "Republican" with no opposition.)
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To: ktscarlett66

I don’t hang around with men who wear more eye makeup than I do. :p


19 posted on 05/15/2008 4:44:35 PM PDT by Politicalmom (Better a leftist Dem with energized GOP opposition, than a leftist "Republican" with no opposition.)
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To: Politicalmom

I don’t care what he wears (or doesn’t wear). I like Johnny Depp, period (and his eyes are smokin’ when he’s his natural self. Besides, it would be nice to know what kind of waterproof eyeliner that is and have someone in the house to borrow a sharpener from when I can’t find mine!!


20 posted on 05/15/2008 4:52:53 PM PDT by ktscarlett66 (Face it girls....I'm older and I have more insurance....)
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To: ktscarlett66

I liked him when he was clean cut in 21 Jump Street.

Now he’s just too greasy for my taste.


21 posted on 05/15/2008 4:59:47 PM PDT by Politicalmom (Better a leftist Dem with energized GOP opposition, than a leftist "Republican" with no opposition.)
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To: ktscarlett66

22 posted on 05/15/2008 5:01:59 PM PDT by weegee (Vote NO on Marxism in 2008.)
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To: Frank Sheed
Image hosted by Photobucket.com ney i sez... i be a SpacePirate!!!
23 posted on 05/15/2008 5:15:53 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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To: weegee
So the episodes of rape and murder by Gilles de Rais (Bluebeard),

Actually Bluebeard was a landlubber, not a pirate. However Edward Thatch (Blackbeard) was a pirate, and a fine one at that. Thatch was a great believer in public relations. He wore a baldric equipped with at least 6 pistols, stuck lit slow matches up under his hat, so that when he attacked a ship his face was wreathed in smoke,”like the very devil himself”. When he captured a ship and thought the crew was holding out treasure on him, he started threatening with death, then got inventive. However, when researchers started to look closely at his career and that of his associate,”Black Sam” Bellamy, they found that with over 300 ships taken between them, there were precisely 0 casualties. Actually firing upon a ship risked loosing any possible plunder, and the ship was valuable in it's own right. Getting into any type of sword fight or close quarters pistol work risked your own skin, all that lovely booty goes for naught if your own personal booty is sharkbait. Yes, Thatch shot his own quartermaster, Israel Hands under the table once, just to remind the crew who he was. But, Hands survived and remained loyal to Blackbeard right till the end. None of this excuses Blackbeard or any of the other pirates for their actions, some of who were just as bloodthirsty as legend tells. They should have known that taking the product of others labor through fear, intimidation, and deadly force if necessary, is the proper role of government, and not independent contractors.

24 posted on 05/15/2008 5:19:54 PM PDT by 75thOVI ("The crews of all submarines captured should be treated as pirates and hanged". Sir Arthur Wilson)
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To: Chode

Arrrggggghhhhh, shipmate. I be off then. If’n ye be seein’ the rat, tell him Cap’in Frank ‘as the black spot fer ‘im.

Keep yer stern to the cosmic wind an’ grog in yer cup!

Fare thee well, mate!


25 posted on 05/15/2008 5:24:55 PM PDT by Frank Sheed (Fr. V. R. Capodanno, Lt, USN, Catholic Chaplain. 3rd/5th, 1st Marine Div., FMF. MOH, posthumously.)
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To: 75thOVI
They should have known that taking the product of others labor through fear, intimidation, and deadly force if necessary, is the proper role of government, and not independent contractors.

hahahahaha

26 posted on 05/15/2008 5:28:23 PM PDT by Lijahsbubbe
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
He's a joke. What role does he play that he doesn't look like a pirate?

Photobucket

27 posted on 05/15/2008 5:30:52 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (Buy a Mac ...)
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To: Frank Sheed
Image hosted by Photobucket.com Aye aye Matey... fair winds and following seas to you.
28 posted on 05/15/2008 5:49:48 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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To: BunnySlippers

Oh, let us Ladies have some fun; it’s just eye candy and we’re all Hale and Hearty Lasses! Post your own version. Let’s see your taste in “eye-candy.”

P.S. It’s not so much Depp as it is the Pirate-thing. To each her own. :)


29 posted on 05/15/2008 6:10:45 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
Are you sure?

Photobucket

30 posted on 05/15/2008 6:17:25 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (Buy a Mac ...)
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To: BunnySlippers

Well...maybe not, LOL! I’m guessing it most likely involves bunnies and slippers... ;)


31 posted on 05/15/2008 6:22:27 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
Photobucket
32 posted on 05/15/2008 6:29:28 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (Buy a Mac ...)
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To: Politicalmom

Good. Then we won’t have to fight over him, unlike a coworker who insists he’s hers. (lol)


33 posted on 05/16/2008 6:52:31 PM PDT by ktscarlett66 (Face it girls....I'm older and I have more insurance....)
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To: BunnySlippers

Umm. Recently, Sweeney Todd, Charlie and the Chocolate Factory. Earlier, What’s Eating Gilbert Grape, Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas, Edward Scissorhands, Nightmare On Elm Street, Once Upon a Time in Mexico, Crybaby, Dead Man, Donnie Brasco, From Hell.


34 posted on 05/16/2008 7:02:00 PM PDT by ktscarlett66 (Face it girls....I'm older and I have more insurance....)
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To: ktscarlett66

Always ratty, wispy hair, blacked over eyes ... a “type” ...

Made for teen girls.


35 posted on 05/16/2008 7:08:31 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (Buy a Mac ...)
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