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Many Hispanics Are Hit Hard by Economic Slump
New York Times ^ | 13 May | Peter S. Goodman

Posted on 05/14/2008 7:14:03 AM PDT by flowerplough

In his first years in the United States, Carlos B. Jacinto endured the itinerant life of a Guatemalan migrant worker, from picking fruit in Florida to moving logs at a sawmill in Washington. Eventually, he settled here in northern Georgia and erected a middle-class American life.

The carpet factories that sustained this town were desperate for workers to supply a nationwide boom in home construction. The wages Mr. Jacinto earned over the last decade were enough to buy a minivan and a brick house with a yard and a swing set for his four young girls. It was a long way from his childhood home in Guatemala, a wooden shack without electricity or plumbing.

But last month, amid the shrinking fortunes of the American economy, Mr. Jacinto, 37, was laid off. Everything he has achieved is suddenly at risk.

“Am I going to be able to keep up the payments on my house?” he asked. “I never believed this could happen. Now, we don’t know the future.”

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: economy; immigration; sobstory
"Now, we don’t know the future.” While, before, he did "know the future"? What bleeding-heart, liberal fools publish such drivel?
1 posted on 05/14/2008 7:14:04 AM PDT by flowerplough
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To: flowerplough
"Economy Slows; Women, Minorities Hardest Hit"
2 posted on 05/14/2008 7:16:55 AM PDT by pabianice
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To: flowerplough
When the state is your guardian from cradle to grave you always, "Know the future."
3 posted on 05/14/2008 7:17:55 AM PDT by Baynative (www.motorlinellc.com)
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To: flowerplough

Is he a citizen yet or even a legal alien?

Will he begin collecting welfare no questions asked?

This makes me sick - why do we continue this farce at benevolence when it is constantly abused.


4 posted on 05/14/2008 7:18:31 AM PDT by imintrouble
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To: flowerplough
How is the economy affecting right handed men with blue eyes?
5 posted on 05/14/2008 7:18:40 AM PDT by Mark was here (The earth is bipolar.)
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To: flowerplough

If you think there’s a slump now, wait’ll you see what happens if the Democrats enact their platform.


6 posted on 05/14/2008 7:18:47 AM PDT by popdonnelly (Concerned about the price of arugula)
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To: flowerplough

“But last month, amid the shrinking fortunes of the American economy, Mr. Jacinto, 37, was laid off. Everything he has achieved is suddenly at risk.”

Sorry, how is his plight any more problematic than any other American?


7 posted on 05/14/2008 7:19:21 AM PDT by Slapshot68
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To: flowerplough
Hit Hard? Go sell that in China or Burma.
8 posted on 05/14/2008 7:19:57 AM PDT by BallyBill (Serial Hit-N-Run poster)
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To: flowerplough

Oooohhh, that’s so sad. Maybe he should go back to Guatemala and consult a good fortune teller there.


9 posted on 05/14/2008 7:20:07 AM PDT by L,TOWM (Liberals, The Other White Meat)
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To: pabianice
“Am I going to be able to keep up the payments on my house?” he asked. “I never believed this could happen. Now, we don’t know the future.”

As a "typical white person" I'm glad I don't have to worry about such things..........

10 posted on 05/14/2008 7:20:50 AM PDT by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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To: flowerplough

Oooooooooooooooooooooooo

20 years ago carpet mills in Dalton, GA, laid off many American citizen workers and hired illegall alien s in their place...

nobody cried for the Americans then...


11 posted on 05/14/2008 7:22:09 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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Oooooooooooooooooooooooo

20 years ago carpet mills in Dalton, GA, laid off many American citizen workers and hired illegal aliens in their place...

nobody cried for the Americans then...


12 posted on 05/14/2008 7:22:26 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Red Badger

““Am I going to be able to keep up the payments on my house?” he asked. “I never believed this could happen. Now, we don’t know the future.”

As a “typical white person” I’m glad I don’t have to worry about such things..........”

I was thinking the same thing. So glad I’m white...the bank won’t foreclose my house if I can’t make my mortgage payments. /s off


13 posted on 05/14/2008 7:23:22 AM PDT by Slapshot68
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To: flowerplough; 4CJ
I posted recently about the illegals employed at carpet mills in Dalton, GA. Nearly half of the town is hispanic.

Article fails to mention the legal American workers that lost jobs to illegal immigrant labor.

14 posted on 05/14/2008 7:23:29 AM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: flowerplough

How is a high GDP and low unemployment equate to a bad economy? The only bad thing right now is inflation and high energy costs. Granted it is a house of cards but the economy is fairing quite well for most who watch their wasteful spending.

Is he sad because he is not getting $25 a hour to mow someone’s friggin’ yard or because he is not getting a stimulus check?

If you don’t like it Paco get your butt south where you and your ilk belong.


15 posted on 05/14/2008 7:23:58 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: Tennessee Nana

same though, a minute apart


16 posted on 05/14/2008 7:25:23 AM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: flowerplough
Others in his situation have returned to Mexico, he said, discouraged by the deteriorating job market and a recent surge in crackdowns against illegal immigrants. If things do not improve soon, so will he

Bingo! Enforce laws and things start to improve! Get that damn fence built and this ahole won't be back.

17 posted on 05/14/2008 7:27:25 AM PDT by ontap (Just another backstabbing conservative)
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To: popdonnelly
If you think there’s a slump now, wait’ll you see what happens if the Democrats enact their platform.

Exactly. Hillary and Obama both want to do implement import controls and raise taxes.

The name of the last President that did those exact things to improve the economy was J. Edgar Hoover; architect in principle of The Great Depression.

18 posted on 05/14/2008 7:29:54 AM PDT by IamConservative (Character: What you do when no one is looking.)
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To: stainlessbanner

I had good friends who lived in Dalton and worked in the carpet mills in 1986-7

Dalton is only about 30 miles from me..

(In fact several local Tennesseans worked in the mills there too)

We went down just about every weekend to visit our friends..

So I heard a lot over some time about what was going on there..

My friends and many others they knew were laid off and they knew that illegal aliens were being brought into Dalton to take their places...

There was nothing they could do about it at the time...

And looked what has evolved from that...


19 posted on 05/14/2008 7:33:53 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: flowerplough

“news” articles like this are just plain

racist.


20 posted on 05/14/2008 7:36:00 AM PDT by ken21 ( people die + you never hear from them again.)
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To: Baynative
When the state is your guardian from cradle to grave you always, "Know the future."

Yes. Under such regimes, the future is always known. It's the past that's always changing.

21 posted on 05/14/2008 7:37:23 AM PDT by lesser_satan (Forget about it, McRino. I don't vote for ecofascists.)
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To: flowerplough
For the nearly 19 million Latino immigrants in the United States,...

In other words, the illegals. The NYT works very hard to avoid that word in this article.

22 posted on 05/14/2008 7:40:29 AM PDT by American Quilter (John McCain--today's Scoop Jackson democrat. He should change parties.)
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To: flowerplough
As always they neglect to mention if these ‘migrants’ are illegal.

When citizens and legal immigrants are no longer hit by the ‘slump’ and have everything they want, I might think about helping illegals.

Til then, they can piss off and ask their own country for help.

23 posted on 05/14/2008 7:40:30 AM PDT by varyouga ("Rove is some mysterious God of politics & mind control" - DU 10-24-06)
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To: flowerplough

Is the guy even a citizen, yet? Otherwise, let’s hope the door hits him in the butt, too.


24 posted on 05/14/2008 7:40:32 AM PDT by ConservativeMind
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To: lesser_satan

...the NYT would do well to quit whining about the illegals and start worrying about their own economic survivability....in two years their stock has gone from $40 to $20.


25 posted on 05/14/2008 7:47:49 AM PDT by STONEWALLS
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To: flowerplough; All

Send a Message to PETER S. GOODMAN

http://www.nytimes.com/gst/emailus.html


26 posted on 05/14/2008 7:48:43 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: flowerplough

“Many Hispanics Are Hit Hard by Economic Slump”

Well, welcome to the real world! Non-hispanics are hit hard too!


27 posted on 05/14/2008 7:50:20 AM PDT by AuntB (Vote Obama! ..........Because ya can't blame 'the man' when you are the 'man'.... Wanda Sikes)
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To: Red Badger

You beat me to it. Good thing we typical white people are guaranteed a paycheck and immune to layoffs, downsizing and other whims of our employers and the economy. Helps us sleep at night.


28 posted on 05/14/2008 7:50:33 AM PDT by McLynnan
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To: Tennessee Nana

“20 years ago carpet mills in Dalton, GA, laid off many American citizen workers and hired illegal aliens in their place...

nobody cried for the Americans then...”

Bam! You nailed that lady.


29 posted on 05/14/2008 7:52:06 AM PDT by AuntB (Vote Obama! ..........Because ya can't blame 'the man' when you are the 'man'.... Wanda Sikes)
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To: flowerplough

Now be a good little illeagle and go home!


30 posted on 05/14/2008 7:55:45 AM PDT by Iron head mike
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To: flowerplough
Others in his situation have returned to Mexico, he said, discouraged by the deteriorating job market and a recent surge in crackdowns against illegal immigrants. If things do not improve soon, so will he, though he is pained by the thought of having to lean on the very family he is supposed to be supporting.

Go on home man. Give up your life of crime and be a good example to your kids.

31 posted on 05/14/2008 8:00:56 AM PDT by SUSSA
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To: flowerplough

The change in home fashion from carpet to hard-surface floors preceded this economic slow-down. But of course, the NYT wouldn’t mention that because otherwise they couldn’t blame Bush for this poor illegals plight.


32 posted on 05/14/2008 8:07:31 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: AuntB

:)


33 posted on 05/14/2008 8:11:36 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: flowerplough

Good.

Now maybe they’ll GO HOME!!!!


34 posted on 05/14/2008 8:13:55 AM PDT by Dick Bachert
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...until McCain sends buses down there to bring them all back in November.


35 posted on 05/14/2008 8:16:06 AM PDT by Dick Bachert
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To: flowerplough

36 posted on 05/14/2008 8:23:58 AM PDT by traumer
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To: Dick Bachert

Before or after the election ???

Many of the illegasl aliens vote absentee...

No need for ID etc..


37 posted on 05/14/2008 8:31:15 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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“20 years ago carpet mills in Dalton, GA, laid off many American citizen workers and hired illegall alien s in their place...”

Where is your source? I worked in Dalton for a major carpet mill 20 years ago and the mills could not find enough help. The wages in the mills were always the best in the region because everyone was competing for labor.

38 posted on 05/14/2008 9:13:48 AM PDT by martinidon
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To: flowerplough

They could always go back to where they came from.


39 posted on 05/14/2008 9:16:40 AM PDT by Sig Sauer P220
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To: martinidon

I was there...

My American friends were laid off...


40 posted on 05/14/2008 9:17:16 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: flowerplough

New York Times must be thinking they have a new subscriber base....lol


41 posted on 05/14/2008 9:20:10 AM PDT by goodnesswins (Liberals learning curves are pretty flat,)
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To: Tennessee Nana
I was there too, and I did not see anything remotely close to what you are describing. I was also involved in the hiring process and I can tell you the company I worked for hired based on qualifications not on “illegal status” or low wages. The mills competed with each other on wages to keep employees from jumping from mill to mill. If your friends were laid off there were other mills willing and ready to hire them. If you were fired one day you could easily be employed the next day. That is why the Hispanic population grew so rapidly in Dalton because there was a shortage of workers.
42 posted on 05/14/2008 12:07:51 PM PDT by martinidon
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