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John McCain's energy policy
The Oregonian ^ | May 13, 2008 | drugged editors

Posted on 05/13/2008 6:31:03 AM PDT by crazyhorse691

W hether or not his goals are ambitious enough, John McCain made it clear Monday in Portland that he will be the anti-George W. Bush when it comes to global warming and alternative energy policy.

"I will not shirk the mantle of leadership that the United States bears," the presumptive Republican nominee said to an audience of journalists and Vestas employees. "I will not accept the same dead-end of failed diplomacy that claimed Kyoto."

If he is elected president, McCain promised to propose a cap-and-trade system designed to ratchet down the volume of carbon emissions, which contribute to greenhouse gases. He also enthusiastically endorsed nuclear power -- though he barely mentioned such "well-known drawbacks" as the problem of how to safely store spent nuclear fuel. As a guest of Vestas, he spoke warmly of wind power and went on to mention solar power, fuel cells and cleaner-burning fuels.

He vowed to cooperate with other nations to help big polluters such as China and India reduce their emissions. He promised that federal purchasing practices will reflect his administration's "low-carbon" policies. He said his energy policies could benefit rural America, which could store carbon in the soils of farms.

His speech was immediately assailed by critics from Hillary Clinton to conservation groups, who said that McCain isn't aggressive enough in seeking to reduce greenhouse gases or in developing a credible plan to wean Americans from fossil fuels.

But what's noteworthy now is that McCain has joined his Democratic rivals in pronouncing global warming a serious problem that requires prompt and concerted action and international cooperation.

After months of jogging toward the right, so as to outflank such Republican rivals as Mitt Romney, Mike Huckabee and Rudy Giuliani, McCain on Monday angled sharply toward the middle of the field, closer to the Democrats' position. He even went so far as to applaud the leadership of Oregon Gov. Ted Kulongoski, the Democrat who introduced Vestas America President Jens Soby, who introduced McCain.

Fights will surely follow about how a cap-and-trade system is constructed, what safeguards are needed to expand nuclear power production, how and whether to subsidize the development of alternative energy technologies and how to engage China and India on global warming. But for one day, at least, McCain's new tune played well in Portland.


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: energy; rino
W hether or not his goals are ambitious enough, John McCain made it clear Monday in Portland that he will be the anti-George W. Bush when it comes to global warming...But for one day, at least, McCain's new tune played well in Portland. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- And we are still screwed.
1 posted on 05/13/2008 6:31:04 AM PDT by crazyhorse691
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To: crazyhorse691

Politically very smart of McCain to distance himself from a lame duck President with a 25% approval rating. I think Bush would whole heartedly agree. McCain knows that in politics, rhetoric is everything. God Bless McCain. God Bless President Bush.


2 posted on 05/13/2008 6:33:27 AM PDT by nwrep
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To: crazyhorse691

He wants us to be second world if not third, all on the basis of a hoax. At 71, he won’t live to see that possible legacy, he just feels good now about doing something.


3 posted on 05/13/2008 6:34:37 AM PDT by Sybeck1 (Ronald Reagan Fought Regulation, John McCain Brought Regulation...)
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To: crazyhorse691
----- And we are still screwed.

We are even more screwed

4 posted on 05/13/2008 6:35:00 AM PDT by YellowRoseofTx
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To: crazyhorse691

Maybe he’ll be just like Bush on being energy independent and all the other conservative stuff he said back in 2000. You know, say one thing while campaigning and do something completely different when in office.


5 posted on 05/13/2008 6:36:19 AM PDT by demshateGod (the GOP is dead to me)
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To: crazyhorse691

If McCain makes it choice between liberal-lite and a real liberal, the real liberal will always win.


6 posted on 05/13/2008 6:36:27 AM PDT by AU72
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To: crazyhorse691

What a maroon!


7 posted on 05/13/2008 6:36:33 AM PDT by kickonly88
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To: nwrep

Sarcasm?


8 posted on 05/13/2008 6:36:56 AM PDT by demshateGod (the GOP is dead to me)
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To: YellowRoseofTx

He might just get me to switch my vote - from third party to Obama. He’s making me wonder which would be worse for America. (Caveat: I cannot, nor will not, vote for any one of the remaining three Dims, even the one sith an R by his name.)


9 posted on 05/13/2008 6:37:38 AM PDT by Ingtar (Haley Barbour 2012, Because he has experience in Disaster Recovery. - ejonesie22)
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To: crazyhorse691

>> “I will not shirk the mantle of leadership that the United States bears,”

Right, John. It’s a tough and thankless job, screwing US and our economy, causing us pain for NOTHING because you let China and India off the hook, raising our taxes and the cost of everything we buy.

Of course, Cindy’s pot is pretty full, so that will take the sting out of it for you personally, John, you ignorant pandering ba$tard.


10 posted on 05/13/2008 6:39:13 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (La Raza hates white folks. And John McCain loves La Raza!)
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To: crazyhorse691
"He promised that federal purchasing practices will reflect his administration's "low-carbon" policies."Great, another public relation ploy to garner votes, McLame isn't stepping up and giving real solutions he just sounds like a Democrat.

If he is indeed the lesser of three evils he won't be getting much conservative votes, maybe I'll just write in pissant and have done with it.

11 posted on 05/13/2008 6:39:17 AM PDT by #1CTYankee (That's right, I have no proof. So what of it??)
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To: nwrep

I’m with President Bush, McCain can go to hell.


12 posted on 05/13/2008 6:40:31 AM PDT by roses of sharon ( (Who will be McCain's maverick?))
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To: crazyhorse691

I got a call from the RNC last night. Trolling for cash, the caller stated that we can’t “afford” to elect Hillary or Obama.

My response was: “We can’t afford McCain either, he’s a piece of crap!”...and hung up the phone.


13 posted on 05/13/2008 6:41:34 AM PDT by alice_in_bubbaland (Vote Obama! And we'll be picking shrapnel out of our butts for decades!)
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To: Nervous Tick

Any serious ideas about what Conservatives/Republicans can do at the convention to prevent this guy from running on OUR ticket?


14 posted on 05/13/2008 6:44:02 AM PDT by roses of sharon ( (Who will be McCain's maverick?))
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To: roses of sharon

“I’m with President Bush, McCain can go to hell.”

Hear, hear!!

Unfortunately, even President Bush has gone a little soft on the GW hoax too.


15 posted on 05/13/2008 6:46:10 AM PDT by Laserman
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To: crazyhorse691

How in the world do you vote when you have two idiots running for president? What in the world are we coming to?


16 posted on 05/13/2008 6:47:31 AM PDT by Piquaboy (22 year veteran of the Army, Air Force and Navy, Pray for all our military .)
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To: roses of sharon

He finally did it. I was going to vote for him holding my nose, but this attack on Bush was the last straw. I’m so frustrated with this a-hole that I will vote down ticket, but not for President.


17 posted on 05/13/2008 6:49:35 AM PDT by mortal19440
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To: crazyhorse691
"His speech was immediately assailed by critics from Hillary Clinton to conservation groups, who said that McCain isn't aggressive enough in seeking to reduce greenhouse gases or in developing a credible plan to wean Americans from fossil fuels."

This is why trying to outlib the Dems is doomed to failure. It ticks off the R base, and gets criticism instead of votes from the moderates and lefties, who, when offered pandering from the "R" or pandering plus $$ from the "D," will go with the "D" every time. That is the lesson the Pubbies SHOULD have learned form 2006, but obviously didn't.

18 posted on 05/13/2008 6:49:56 AM PDT by LadyNavyVet ("No more of those candidates who are pledged to the same goals as our opposition ..." Ronald Reagan)
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To: Laserman
Yes, but he has held the wolves at bay for 8 long years, starting with withdrawal from the awful Kyoto.
19 posted on 05/13/2008 6:51:39 AM PDT by roses of sharon ( (Who will be McCain's maverick?))
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To: Piquaboy

Kind of sad that these three stooges are the best that is left for this great country to choose. That semi conservative in Canada is looking better every day.


20 posted on 05/13/2008 6:52:49 AM PDT by mortal19440
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To: crazyhorse691
I am sure that he will, my question is if after his carbon reduction program is implemented and it is seen as not having any effect on the worlds climate, how long will it take to abolish his carbon program? Also, when the program sends the US economy in the toilet, how long will it take to abolish the program? And when the enormously unfair trade imbalances are revealed for those countries that don't have to participate (India, China etc.)how long will again take to repeal the program?
21 posted on 05/13/2008 6:55:35 AM PDT by 2001convSVT ("People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence")
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To: crazyhorse691

To this date, none of the Kyoto signatories have abided by Kyoto. Conversely, had Kyoto been universally implented, it’s estimated that by 2050, the earth might be one degree Centigrade cooler.


22 posted on 05/13/2008 7:01:26 AM PDT by sono (Islam is a religion of peace, and if you say that it isn't, we will kill you.)
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To: 2001convSVT

I saw a show a couple of weeks ago (can’t remember which one) and they had a guy on who had done some kind of study on what cap and trade would cost each household per yr. They came up with $3500 for a yr. but said it could possible be even higher.


23 posted on 05/13/2008 7:01:29 AM PDT by sheana
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To: mortal19440

I am an old goat and this is the worse thing I have ever undergone in my life time. These three or maybe I should say two have no more business being president than I do.


24 posted on 05/13/2008 7:04:02 AM PDT by Piquaboy (22 year veteran of the Army, Air Force and Navy, Pray for all our military .)
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To: crazyhorse691

“His speech was immediately assailed by critics from Hillary Clinton to conservation groups”

By “conservation groups”, the author means environmental lobbies in Washington that have a hammerlock on Congress.


25 posted on 05/13/2008 7:09:38 AM PDT by popdonnelly (Concerned about the price of arugula)
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To: nwrep
Politically very smart of McCain to distance himself from a lame duck President with a 25% approval rating.

So he should distance himself from one of the few things that W actually did right?

I think Bush would whole heartedly agree. McCain knows that in politics, rhetoric is everything.

If rhetoric is everything, you're suggesting that McCain doesn't believe what he's saying. You may be right - he may well be a liar. It's either that or he's a moron, and neither option makes me likely to vote for him.

26 posted on 05/13/2008 7:10:38 AM PDT by highball ("I never should have switched from scotch to martinis." -- the last words of Humphrey Bogart)
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To: crazyhorse691
And today he's in Washington, coming to Rattlesnake Lake then sounds like he'll hike up the Ledge (what 50 feet up the trail for a photo op?). He'll make more gut wrenching environmental statements and I'm waiting with baited breath to hear them.
He doesn't light my fire. For all the faults of previous republican nominees I don't recall a single one who took a position of any sort that comes from the radical left, like this one on the environment. I will end up voting for him, only because not doing so is a vote for Obama, but he's not getting an ounce of effort on my part to get him into office. And I am someone who spends many hours campaigning for George W.
27 posted on 05/13/2008 7:16:41 AM PDT by NavyCanDo
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To: sheana
No matter what the cost, the American family is expected to pay for it. At $3,500 a year it is going to hurt allot of people and businesses. It took about 13 years and a depression to repeal Prohibition, how much pain are the American people prepared to undergo. May the good Lord help us all.
28 posted on 05/13/2008 7:18:39 AM PDT by 2001convSVT ("People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence")
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To: Sybeck1
He wants us to be second world if not third, all on the basis of a hoax.
You're right. Sort of negates his patriotic support of our troops.

It's not very patriotic to work whole-heartedly towards the economic destruction of America.

McCain is a nincompoop trapped in the body of a human.

29 posted on 05/13/2008 7:19:10 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: Nervous Tick
It’s a tough and thankless job, screwing US and our economy, causing us pain for NOTHING because you let China and India off the hook, raising our taxes and the cost of everything we buy.

Of course, Cindy’s pot is pretty full, so that will take the sting out of it for you personally, John, you ignorant pandering ba$tard.

He's not alone in this. How many rich scumbags push the GW "solutions" knowing they'll tend to impoverish the rest of us but not caring because their own nests are pretty well feathered?

He's not alone, but he's conspicuously at the top of that scum-bag heap.

I will not vote for this lying, scurrilous, sanctimonious poser.

30 posted on 05/13/2008 7:22:46 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: crazyhorse691

I am rapidly moving from “don’t know if I can vote for him” to “no way in hell will I vote for him.” He better wake up, or I will be voting for Bob Barr.


31 posted on 05/13/2008 7:27:50 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: nwrep

Bush’s 25% approval rating means that LOT of Conseratives disapprove of him as well. He brought this on himself.


32 posted on 05/13/2008 7:39:40 AM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham ("The land of the Free...Because of the Brave")
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham

If I was a delegate to the RNCC, I would be dragged out for my obcenity laced tirade at the mental case getting our nomination. Can a candidate be labeled Non Compus Mentis and be removed?


33 posted on 05/13/2008 7:48:06 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: NavyCanDo

Here’s hoping it snows today on his hike....or at least rains.....someone from Washington, the STATE, needs to tell him that Mt. Rainier has snow accumulation (pack?) about 40% ABOVE normal....and they are not done counting yet. (July to July). And, that the US normal temp has dropped in the last 10 years.


34 posted on 05/13/2008 8:05:42 AM PDT by goodnesswins (Liberals learning curves are pretty flat,)
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To: Sybeck1
At 71, he won’t live to see that possible legacy, he just feels good now about doing something.

LOL. BTW, did you know that Mt. Rushmore, Bugs Bunny, Alaska, McDonald's, and both of Barack Obama's parents are all younger than John McCain?

35 posted on 05/13/2008 8:06:53 AM PDT by MurryMom
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To: GodGunsGuts
I am considering voting for Bob Barr and I've never voted Libertarian in my life.

Last night he briefly spoke with Glen Beck and I liked everything he said.

36 posted on 05/13/2008 8:12:48 AM PDT by alice_in_bubbaland (Vote Obama! And we'll be picking shrapnel out of our butts for decades!)
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To: Piquaboy
These three or maybe I should say two have no more business being president than I do.

Don't sell yourself short.

I'd vote for a Freeper in a minute.

37 posted on 05/13/2008 8:22:48 AM PDT by kidd
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To: alice_in_bubbaland

I’m pretty sure this is his official site. Can’t say I can disagree with much either (although, his policy of non-intervention needs to be fleshed out a bit). Time will tell. But again, if McCain continues to sell out conservatives, I’m voting for Bob Barr!

http://www.bobbarr2008.com/about/


38 posted on 05/13/2008 9:08:45 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: crazyhorse691

McCain loves Al Gore and wants to have his baby


39 posted on 05/13/2008 3:22:42 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (http://www.iraqvetsforcongress.com ---- Get involved, make a difference.)
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To: crazyhorse691; enough_idiocy; rdl6989; IrishCatholic; Normandy; Delacon; TenthAmendmentChampion; ...
 




Beam me to Planet Gore !

40 posted on 05/13/2008 4:09:40 PM PDT by steelyourfaith
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To: MurryMom

Tsk, tsk, such “ageism” is contemptible and certainly most politically incorrect for a leftist-in-good standing like MM.

Perhaps you should be focused upon getting the obvious Democrat CORRUPT fossilized deadwood like Byrd, Murtha, Lautenberg, et al into a comfortable retirement before you expend energy attacking a 71 year old man who probably still has better bowel movements than any of your Demagogue politicians. [maybe you should do a personal first-hand study of that subject]

I’m no McCain fan but he’s better than just about any of the Demagogues, hands down.


41 posted on 05/15/2008 5:49:26 PM PDT by Enchante (Obama: My 1930s Appeasement Policy Goes Well With My 1960s Socialist Policies!)
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To: Enchante
Tsk, tsk, such “ageism” is contemptible and certainly most politically incorrect for a leftist-in-good standing like MM.

My post was the opposite of ageism, mocking McCain for claiming that his age is a handicap equivalent to the hate and prejudice Senator Obama is daily subjected to by bigots more influenced by his race than by the strength of his ideas.

42 posted on 05/16/2008 7:46:39 AM PDT by MurryMom
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