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54% Say Push for Alternative Energy Sources Driving Up Food Prices (Only 23% disagree)
Rasmussen ^ | May 04, 2008 | Rasmussen

Posted on 05/13/2008 12:24:22 AM PDT by Red Steel

The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 54% of American adults believe that the push for alternative energy sources is driving up food prices. The survey found that only 23% disagree while the rest are not sure. These views are generally shared across partisan and demographic lines.

The U.S. Department of Agriculture estimates that roughly 30% of corn grown in this nation is being diverted from food consumption to ethanol production. Government subsidies have encouraged this diversion of the food supply and it is having a lifestyle impact on many Americans—particularly lower-income Americans.

Thirty-five percent (35%) of Americans say that rising food prices have had a big impact on their lifestyle. That figure includes 63% of those who earn less than $20,000 annually.

Fifty percent (50%) have had to cut back on other spending to buy groceries. That figure includes 82% of those earning less than $20,000 a year and 63% of those earning $20,000 to $40,000 a year.

Seventy-six percent (76%) expect food prices to increase further in the coming months. Fifty-five percent (55%) say they are following news coverage of the topic Very Closely while another 31% are following it Somewhat Closely.

Rising gas prices have also had an impact on lower-income workers over the past several months. That’s one of the reasons that the Rasmussen Consumer Index shows consumer confidence tumbling to record lows. Sixty percent (60%) of Americans favor a suspension of the federal gasoline tax. Support for gas tax relief is strongest among low-income Americans.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: biofuels; energy

1 posted on 05/13/2008 12:24:23 AM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

This is a good indication that the public is not
being duped by the MSM/ green brigade.

There is hope.


2 posted on 05/13/2008 12:32:30 AM PDT by ChiMark
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To: Red Steel

I know our weekly grocery bill continues to climb and most items we buy have jumped 15-30 cents per item in the last few weeks.


3 posted on 05/13/2008 12:39:38 AM PDT by RetiredArmy (IT IS A SAD STATE OF AFFAIRS IF OBAMA, HILLARY OR MCCAIN IS THE BEST WE HAVE TO OFFER AS PREZ.)
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To: Red Steel

It’s not ethanol alone; the rising price of fuel makes food more expensive. Ethanol production is simply adding to the misery, particularly since it takes fossil fuel to produce ethanol.


4 posted on 05/13/2008 12:44:19 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Who's worried about the Bolsheviks? They couldn't be worse than the Tsar!)
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To: ChiMark
This is a good indication that the public is not being duped by the MSM/ green brigade.

What are you talking about? The MSM has been on the forefront of blaming biofuels for increased food costs.

About a month ago, there was an article nearly every day that perpetuated this flat-out lie.

5 posted on 05/13/2008 12:50:55 AM PDT by garandgal
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To: Mr Ramsbotham
ArabLaughing http://www.slate.com/id/2122961/
6 posted on 05/13/2008 12:55:04 AM PDT by preacher (A government which robs from Peter to pay Paul will always have the support of Paul.)
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To: preacher

Yet another lie...from Slate.com, no less.


7 posted on 05/13/2008 12:58:23 AM PDT by garandgal
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To: garandgal

what is the actual figure then?


8 posted on 05/13/2008 1:03:29 AM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* 'I love you guys')
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To: preacher
That's a very illustrative cartoon!

I can't help but wonder if the 1.29 gallons figure reflects only the amount of fossil fuel needed to actually distill the ethanol, or whether it includes the cost of growing, harvesting and transporting it?

This whole scam reminds me of the person who thought we could get all the energy we needed by water electrolysis. When quizzed as to where the electricity would come from he replied, "why, it comes out of the wall, of course!"

9 posted on 05/13/2008 1:32:45 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Who's worried about the Bolsheviks? They couldn't be worse than the Tsar!)
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To: Steve Van Doorn

Generally, it is a net energy gain of around 60%. The figures that are bandied about by these nitwits are twenty years old. As far as the net energy gain, a long time critic of ethanol (who was responsible for some of this tripe) said this just a few weeks ago:

http://www.foodandfuelamerica.com/2008/03/pimentel-pumps-up-ethanol.html

As far as food costs are concerned, take it up with Texas A&M. They really should have given their alumnus, Governor Perry, a heads up before he made a fool out of himself several days after they released this study:

http://www.afpc.tamu.edu/pubs/2/515/RR-08-01.pdf

Food costs are largely being driven by the price of oil; the devaluation of the dollar; increased demand; and crop failures.


10 posted on 05/13/2008 1:41:45 AM PDT by garandgal
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To: Mr Ramsbotham
See post 10; one of the heroes of the "Church of the Perpetual Energy Losing Ethanol Myth" has apparently committed the heresy of admitting the facts.

Whatever will you do?

Incidentally, they not only include the cost to grow and transport the crop in their studies...some of the true wackos actually include the energy of the sun.

11 posted on 05/13/2008 1:53:06 AM PDT by garandgal
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To: garandgal
Thank you.

It doesn't help anyone when we get bad information.

12 posted on 05/13/2008 1:57:24 AM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* 'I love you guys')
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

The 1.29 figure is suppossed to be all inclusive as to costs. The web site I put with the cartoon explains it in detail.

It looks like the folly of ethanol produced by corn is being universily recognized.


13 posted on 05/13/2008 2:09:21 AM PDT by preacher (A government which robs from Peter to pay Paul will always have the support of Paul.)
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To: garandgal

I thought the energy came from the corn.


14 posted on 05/13/2008 2:37:37 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Who's worried about the Bolsheviks? They couldn't be worse than the Tsar!)
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To: garandgal
I'm sure everyone would admit that we have to break our addiction to foreign oil. The question that remains is if what we are doing right now with corn based ethanol is improving the situation, or making things worse overall for consumers. Other than a suspension or an elimination of tax on oil and gas, I do not see any short term relief to the consumer. In terms of long term relief there are several things that need to be initiated now: 1) Greatly increase domestic drilling for oil and natural gas while at the same time ensuring that whatever uses these oil based products work more efficiently. 2) If we are going to use ethanol as an additive in gasoline we need to find a more efficient way to produce, or obtain it. The game has been rigged by Washington with farm based subsidies for the production of domestic corn based ethanol while tariffs restrict sugar cane based ethanol which can be produced at a greatly reduced price. 3) Both of my first two points have to be seen as a means to transitioning to a point where another form of energy, i.e. hydrogen, natural gas etc., makes up a greater and greater percentage of cars and trucks produced for use in the United States.
15 posted on 05/13/2008 2:49:12 AM PDT by RU88 (The false messiah can not change water into wine any more than he can get unity from diversity.)
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To: Red Steel

The price of raw material in a box of cornflakes has increased from 6 to 9 cents in the past 18 months.


16 posted on 05/13/2008 3:26:46 AM PDT by rsobin
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To: Red Steel
Quick glance Alternative Energy Guide so that everybody is on the same page and no one can skew any arguments about the options, pros and cons, and everybody is on the same page.

17 posted on 05/13/2008 3:46:28 AM PDT by freerepublic_or_die (Islam:Truly the opium of the morons with apologies to Karl Marx)
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To: RU88

I’m with you regarding being a bit suspicious of the ‘success’ in ethanol production. Rarely do the supporters address the side effects of redirecting the output of a significant crop. Nor does one hear about the lower energy potential of the ethanol itself.

In light of these ommissions, it looks like the question should not be ‘Can we produce ethanol’ but ‘Should we produce ethanol’.


18 posted on 05/13/2008 3:57:47 AM PDT by ByteMercenary (9-11: supported everywhere by followers of the the cult of islam.)
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To: Red Steel

We’ve been saying drill in ANWAR and off the coasts, clean coal, windmills for years. WE are paying the price! Congress simply doesn’t listen.


19 posted on 05/13/2008 4:01:10 AM PDT by Sacajaweau ("The Cracker" will be renamed "The Crapper")
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To: garandgal

Tying our agricultural markets and our energy markets together is just plain goofy


20 posted on 05/13/2008 4:56:05 AM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Red Steel

“23% of people polled disagree that grass is green and the sky is blue, 54% know this to be true and the rest are not sure.”


21 posted on 05/13/2008 4:56:15 AM PDT by reaganator
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To: Red Steel

Polls like this should always add, “0.05% of respondents actually have a clue as to what they are talking about”.


22 posted on 05/13/2008 4:58:51 AM PDT by Jim Noble (ride 'em like you stole 'em)
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To: Red Steel
Laws of supply and demand dictate the cost. If they take 25% of our food supply off the market there will be an increase in price. The American people are less interested in this “Goin Green” crapola than getting out there and fixing the problem. The only problem is we won't get our own oil.
23 posted on 05/13/2008 6:35:50 AM PDT by tobyhill (The media lies so much the truth is the exception)
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