Posted on 05/12/2008 9:21:44 AM PDT by BenLurkin
They eat from the same dishes and sleep in the same beds, but they seem to be operating in two different economies. From last November through this April, American women aged 20 and up gained nearly 300,000 jobs, according to the household survey of the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS). At the same time, American men lost nearly 700,000 jobs. You might even say American men are in recession, and American women are not.
For once, women and children are NOT the hardest hit!
Getting rid of the high salaried guys for a couple of lower salary gals. Nothing new here middle-aged WASP’s getting downsized.
There are many jobs that are “historically female” that gladly accept males and that men could do quite well if they wanted them. In fact, in my own particular field (legal assistant) the firm would probably prefer to hire men to do the work because the government mandates that if you get pregnant you get a year off with pay, and historically the women in this business tend to cluster in the prime breeding years. The days of a legal assistant being a “personal secretary” are in most cases long gone and the work is not that much different from what a civil lawyer does. Now that typing is not for “girls” anymore, there’s plenty of work for all.
What men need to do is change their attitudes about doing “girl jobs” and step up.
[Some analysts even argue that men are less suited than women to the knowledge economy, which rewards supposedly female traits such as sensitivity, intuition, and a willingness to collaborate. ]
Also the willingness to sit motionless in front of a computer screen all day while your watching your butt spread. I know it ill suits me.
“Also the willingness to sit motionless in front of a computer screen all day while your (sic) watching your butt spread. I know it ill suits me.”
That’s what I do all day. Am I safe then?
“What men need to do is change their attitudes about doing “girl jobs” and step up.”
Louis Prima: “I’m just a gigolo and everywhere I go, people know the part I’m playing.”
Gents, it’s time to step up and provide the services in demand from all these employed women!
Depends how you approach it. I look at that screen and see beasts that need taming -- by me.
That line you quoted about "female traits" is gibberish. How do "sensitivity" and "intuition" help to build real working systems, if hard-nosed logic and gritty determination are absent?
Wow, where do you live that the government mandates a year off with pay when you get pregnant? I wish I lived there when I had my baby. We get six weeks disability.
But, uh, wait! The gender lines are already blurring too much in this society. The world will come to an end if boys start acting like girls! Blah, blah, blah.
Seriously, though, there is such a gigantic and critical nursing shortage in this country right now. Nurses can get jobs anywhere, anytime at 100K+ with housing often covered as well. And you don't even have to wear the little cap anymore. Don't know why more guys are afraid to take on that career.
I'm just not good with color.
80 % of vetinary students are women, and over 50 % of medical students and law students are women. Two thirds of incoming college students are women.
Is it because men are stupider, on average ? Or is there something about an educational system (where 80 % of the teachers are women) that encourages failure in boys and shoves them out of school, where working with their hands or joing the army are the only way to go? Do ya think that could be a factor?? Duh!
And of course, the feminist lawyers want to put quotas on engineering like they did on college sports , the last bastion of well paying jobs for men. All in the name of equity!!
Why would politicians care? They have been doing everything they can to destroy opportunities for men and to penalize them in every way possible.
and WHITE males are losing jobs to affirmative action.
“Seriously, though, there is such a gigantic and critical nursing shortage in this country right now. Nurses can get jobs anywhere, anytime at 100K+ with housing often covered as well.”
Wouldn’t that be a function of the fact that nursing schools are still taking in to few students? Everyone I know that wants to enter the field of nursing, finds it very difficult to get into the schools, and these aren’t dumb people.
BTW, I find it interesting how a thread linked to an article about how men are finally at a disadvantage, becomes a thread bashing men. I suppose I should just consider it a victory by the feminazis that their success in abusing men has created this conundrum.
You're quite the elitist. You sound like Stephen King or John Kerry (or Barack Obama, for that matter). If you don't read or finish school, you'll end up in Iraq.
Joining the army is failure? Working with your hands is failure? Both can be very honorable careers, I think.
I don’t see any women where I work.
From March...
Is Obama Lying About NAFTAGate?
Austan Goolsbee. Snort.
If you’re implying that I’m bashing men, I really think you’ve got me wrong. My late husband was a nurse, and I was very proud of him. If you think there are few male nurses now, you should have seen it back then. And yes, it’s tough to get into nursing school. It’s tough to get into med school or law school or engineering school, too, because these are all hard professions that take people with some smarts and a lot of dedication.
LMAO yesterday.
Had to gas up the lawn mower, the car and truck.
Citgo on US 1 & NE 6th ST in Pompnao was “asking” $3.89/gal.
I say “asking”, b/c driving by it 4 times, I saw nobody dumb enough to buy there, when down on Atlantic, the shell was packed full at $3.69.
I was near tempted to walk in just to give ‘em a Nelson muntz.
And that’s as cheap as it got in Pompano this weekend.
Is it because men are stupider, on average ? Or is there something about an educational system (where 80 % of the teachers are women) that encourages failure in boys and shoves them out of school, where working with their hands or joing the army are the only way to go?
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Bingo! Former teacher here, BTW.
It isn’t as good as you think. My wife is an RN supervisor in a hospital ICU unit, and the male nurses are not allowed to treat many female patients. Anything of a personal nature involving a female patient must be cared for by a female nurse. Not so if the situation is reversed. Male nurses are often put down by the reigning females, given menial jobs that involve heavy lifting, and treated as second class citizens.
The other day, male nursing students were denied access to the women’s health unit (maternity) during residency. Feminism is a horrible philosophy.
There was a time when men dominated all the good paying proffesions; now we are being directed to only the ones women dont want to do. Wake up and get your head out of your a$$. The feminazis now want to dumb down engineering in college because they say its too "technical" (ie hard) for women to do. They also want quotas, a la Title 9.
In their book, men should fight wars and work on oil rigs and airplane engines. Theyll work in non-profit offices at 200 k a year, having gone to "school" for "womens Studies", etc. The average guy doesent know hes being reemed up the butt by the System. Oh, and the Republican administraion could give a crap about it , either. Not in their periscope.
Yes they are, go down the article a couple of paragraphs where it talks about “wages stagnant for women”...
Canada. When I moved up here it was six months with pay. Now it’s a year. Re-elect the Liberals and you’ll get five years! (No, they have not promised that yet, but trust me.)
Any man who wants to be a legal assistant could have a job tomorrow and make good money at it too. If he could do the work. As far as women engineers go, my boss was an engineer before she was a lawyer, and I was an engineer before I became a legal assistant. People don’t stay in one field for their whole lives anymore. Or is that a “girl thing” too?
“People don’t stay in one field for their whole lives anymore.”
...is a b.s. line, in the job shop (precision metal working) environment anyone with under 15 years of experience is condsidered newbies.
Most of us laugh at the joke; do you know why they call it tool and die.
...cause you tool till you die.
All kidding aside, most the men I work with have been in this industry for decades and will remain there.
You should thank God for these souls, but that is grist for another entire thread.
So what's your answer to that, more women in combat?
...and work on oil rigs and airplane engines.
Again, as I asked before, is there something wrong with doing manual labor? We need oil to be drilled and airplanes to fly. I have one son who works with his hands and another who works behind a desk. I'm equally proud of both of them because they work hard and take care of their families and follow the law. You seem to want to belittle people who work with their hands and bodies to do a good job, and I don't understand why.
“The average guy doesent know hes being reemed up the butt by the System.”
I do!
...and I got it dry!
I should have said “all people” don’t stay in one career for a lifetime anymore — my mistake. Some people do. Especially people who find a job they do well and enjoy doing.
And I do thank God daily for those who come to work every day and do their job to the best of their ability and don’t clock out a minute early. They are thinner on the ground than they were, and we miss them.
Are you really that obtuse? We work the manual labor because it pays well and we're good at it and its rewarding. We're blocked out of the academic jobs and the government jobs and the high paying proffesional jobs , not because we dont like them or that we're bad at it, but because the educational system discourages us from pursuing them. The unemployment rate for men is higher than for women, does that make sense? Thats unprecedented and the trend is for more of the same.
Does it make sense for women to dominate the medical proffession when many take months at a time off to havbe a baby and then quit altogether when they are in their 30's? The answer is.. no, it doesent,its a waste of resources. In a truly gender unbiased society, colleges would be 50-50 men to women. It used to be that way 35 yrs ago, but no more.
Women are graduating college in ever greater proportion to men. Men used to account for the majority of college graduates, while women now account for the majority. The USA still needs skilled labor. Unskilled men are being laid off while skilled women with college diplomas are being sought after.
The moral: stay in school.
“Don’t know why more guys are afraid to take on that career.”
This is what you said. By implying that the reason men are not joining the nursing ranks is because they are “afraid” might not be blatant, but it is bashing none the less.
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