Posted on 05/12/2008 7:13:34 AM PDT by Victory111
When Al Gore and his global warming alarmists take over, one of the first citizens they’ll slap in a prison and charge with crimes against the (green) state will be Steven J. Milloy, founder and publisher of the popular Web site JunkScience.com.
For 12 years, JunkScience.com has worked to debunk the bad science that has been used to advance the harmful or merely silly political and social agendas of environmentalists that have led to things such as bans on DDT and incandescent light bulbs.
Dissent is the highest form of patriotism except when dissenting against know-it-all socialists.
Try telling the American Bald Eagle that DDT was good for the environment. It almost made them extinct!
Are you sure about that?..........
Al Gore should be arrested for the biggest con and scam job ever.
Phooey. That’s a MYTH and it’s JUNK SCIENCE.
And not using it made a WHOLE lot of people extinct.
Really? Whom? (There are other, safer insecticides you know)
Come on into 2008....From the article
>>Q: Is there a smaller example of junk science that is harmful? A: Global warming is obviously the up-and-coming issue. The biggest and probably the most lethal form of junk science so far has been the DDT controversy. Tens of millions of people in malaria regions have died needlessly because the U.S. – based on junk science – banned DDT in 1972 and the ban was promptly exported around the world. It wasn’t until just two years ago or so that the World Health Organization rolled back its ban on DDT – or at least said they did. DDT use really hasn’t expanded all that much and millions continue to die. That’s the environmentalists’ handiwork and that’s just the warm-up for what’s going to happen with global warming.<<
NOTHING is as cheap and effective as DDT.
LOL...Junk Science is believing the universe was created in just six 24-hour periods, that stemcell research is witchcraft, or that there really is no such thing as pollution. If you really believe DDT so safe why not try some in your coffee?
>>If you really believe DDT so safe why not try some in your coffee? <<
If I had mosquitoes in my coffee, I would.
How silly is that statement. It’s toxic, it’s an insecticide, meant to kill insects. If it wasn’t toxic, it wouldn’t work.
So you’ve got a bunch of people who can’t afford a pot to pee in, worried about birds while their children are dying of malaria. Right.
Priorities, FRiend.
>>that stemcell research is witchcraft<<
Embryo stem cells have never worked for research. Adult stemcells have.
Now who is talking Witchcraft. Not us. We know what is a pipedream with an agenda and what is actually working.
A great example of exactly the “junk science” that they’re debunking.
Meanwhile, how many humans died because of this fallacious conclusion?
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=45063
Check #19..............
From that article....
>>When Carson alludes to increased bird deaths during the DDT era, Edwards responds, “Is it possible that Carson was unaware of the great increases in mammals and game birds.” Her claim that robins were on the verge of extinction because of DDT and related chemicals he reveals to be transparently untrue. Observers, he points out, spotted 12 times more robins in the DDT era than before. As to her claim that DDT was originally tested as an “agent of death” for man, this he calls “despicable.” At the end of the day, beyond all reasonable doubt, Edwards revealed Carson’s claim that DDT is “deadly” to be “completely false.” <<
HA!!!!
Asbestos was once heralded as a great fire retardant and insulation product.
Mercury as a medicine.
Cocaine as a stimulant.
LSD was an psychoanalysts dream come true.
And Cigarettes didn't cause cancer...there are plenty of products out there, I presume, that fit in your definition of "Junk Science"!
Asbestos was once heralded as a great fire retardant and insulation product.
Mercury as a medicine.
Cocaine as a stimulant.
LSD was an psychoanalysts dream come true.
And Cigarettes didn't cause cancer...there are plenty of products out there, I presume, that fit in your definition of "Junk Science"!
It still is.
“And not using it made a WHOLE lot of people extinct.
Really? Whom? (There are other, safer insecticides you know)”
http://3billionandcounting.com/index2.php
There is no such thing as the American bald eagle; it should rightfully be called the Canadian bald eagle since that is where they are most plentiful; it seems as though nobody recognized that the hurricanes in Florida in the late 60s and early 70s wiped out the largest nesting areas in the continental U.S. (Naples area)
The eggshell thinning assertion remains in debate as there are other known causes of the same effect from other sources totally unrelated to pesticides.
Asbestos is a great fire retardant, it must be handled safely. Had it been used in the twin towers, the story may have been different.
Mercury is not as dangerous as they make out. We used to play with it.
Cocaine IS a stimulant. How about filling your teeth without a bit of novocaine? Guess where it comes from?
LSD was an experiment. I worked Psych. There are weirdos in every field.
And Cigarette dangers are still being studied while YOUR personal property rights are going away.
Now, the subject is DDT and you haven’t answered a thing.
You can safely drink DDT; just ask Dr. J. Gordon Edwards.
I looking to save lives with it. ;-)
Another example of junk science prevailing long after it is disproved. DDT has been proved to have no adverse environmental effects. The thinning of Bird egg shells, which was the purported impact of DDT has been shown to have no relationship to DDT.
Despite the fact that DDT has been shown to have no adverse environmental or health impact, millions of people continue to die of Malaria because DDT continues to be banned by the UN.
DDT effectively controls mosquito population - FACT!
DDT saved millions of lives - FACT!
DDT causes defects in bird egg shells - FICTION
DDT is a carcinogen - FICTION
http://dwb.unl.edu/Teacher/NSF/C06/C06Links/www.altgreen.com.au/Chemicals/ddt.html
I see that you were tightened up in my absence. Please don’t get caught stupid again.
Right, well we'll just have to agree to disagree. But, hey, I a libertarian at heart so feel free to continue to smoke your cigarettes and be sure to eat plenty of cholesterol-containing well-marbled red meat; and of course avoid your seat belt while driving if it is uncomfortable. But, please, don't ask me or anyone else to be responsible for your medical expenses or increased shared insurance premiums should you need assistance with long-term diabetes, heart disease, lung cancer, or injury in a car crash.
Asbestos is found in a quite friable state in the southwest U.S. on the surface of the soil; this is considered the less dangerous two of three main types found around the world due to its lack of the “fishhook” shape common to the etology of mesothelioma.
Far more deaths from silicosis have been recorded from afflicted quarry miners and we’ve yet to ban gravel and building stone.
Less than 3% of active smokers die from lung cancer each year; tobacco smoke would make a terrible poison as a weapon choice.
What does any of this have to do with DDT?
And why is it that you presume that I do any of the above?
I don’t assume that you are a liberal greenie eventhough you have closed your eyes and gone La-la-la when you have been presented with facts....
You’re living proof emotion trumps reason.
Shhhhh, well you can’t be putting out facts here now can ya?
The Bald Eagles may not like it.
>>Please don’t get caught stupid again<<
Great line!
You’ll never notice the pennies those conditions will cause you compared to the other worthless wastes of your tax dollar by the crooks in power.
Etiology; sorry.
U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service biologists fed large doses of DDT to captive bald eagles for 112 days and concluded that “DDT residues encountered by eagles in the environment would not adversely affect eagles or their eggs,” according to a 1966 report published in the “Transcripts of 31st North America Wildlife Conference.”http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,202447,00.htmlThe USFWS examined every bald eagle found dead in the U.S. between 1961-1977 (266 birds) and reported no adverse effects caused by DDT or its residues.
One of the most notorious DDT “factoids” is that it thinned bird egg shells. But a 1970 study published in Pesticides Monitoring Journal reported that DDT residues in bird egg shells were not correlated with thinning. Numerous other feeding studies on caged birds indicate that DDT isn’t associated with egg shell thinning.
In the few studies claiming to implicate DDT as the cause of thinning, the birds were fed diets that were either low in calcium, included other known egg shell-thinning substances, or that contained levels of DDT far in excess of levels that would be found in the environment – and even then, the massive doses produced much less thinning than what had been found in egg shells in the wild.
So what causes thin bird egg shells? The potential culprits are many. Some that have been reported in the scientific literature include: oil; lead; mercury; stress from noise, fear, excitement or disease; age; bird size (larger birds produce thicker shells); dehydration; temperature; decreased light; human and predator intrusion; restraint and nutrient deficiencies.
For the “DDT Kills Eagles” crowd, “FOXNEWS.COM HOME > VIEWS ‘Bald Eagle-DDT Myth Still Flying High’ Thursday, July 06, 2006 By Steven Milloy.
Check the article. Also ngm.nationalgeographic.com says some 128,000 eagles were killed under Alaska bounty system from 1917-1952 and it had little long lasting effects on populations.
Loss of habitant is a more likely culprit than DDT.
Do you know anyone killed by DDT? DDT has saved millions, no hundreds of millions of lives and yet you babble on about putting it in coffee.
DDT is saving lives and preventing people from being crippled for life. No other insecticide is as effective or cheap for poor countries with few dollars to spend and yes they use it safely against mosquitoes but of this you know nothing.
From Wahing Post, Semp. 16, 2006, WHO Urges Use of DDT inb Africa, “Swaziland and Madagascar each had malaria epidemics after suspending DDT spraying, the latter’s outbreak killing more than 100,000 people from 1986 to 1988. Both epidemics were stopped when DDT spraying resumed.”
TWO YEARS, 100,000 deaths after stopping use of DDT! and you say, “Really? Whom?”!
Well, if someone can show me peer-reviewed majority scientific fact, then I’ll stand corrected on DDT. But the evidence I’ve read is that the world community of science has regarded the pesticide as a deadly agent for fish, and birds that prey on fish and that DDT has an incredibly long half-life. There are other good insecticides (Carbary-C12H11NO2) that are relatively inexpensive and work effectively, too, and are regarded as much safer. As well, ask yourselves, why would the world health community seek a ban on DDT—and this was long before “global warming” nonsense?
(Carbary-C12H11NO2) does not come up on a Google search. What is it?
>>As well, ask yourselves, why would the world health community seek a ban on DDT—and this was long before “global warming” nonsense?<<
Bumpersticker mentality maybe? The bandwagon to feel good? Agenda driven $$$$
Lots of things.
But YOU are disregarding all of the articles and research here and asking for more. Read and comprehend what has been presented to you.
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