Posted on 05/12/2008 1:28:25 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
WASHINGTON, D.C. -- John McCain, who has spent the last two months trying to consolidate right-wing support as the Republican candidate for president, has a problem of disputed dimensions with a vital component of the conservative coalition: the evangelicals. The biggest question is whether Mike Huckabee is part of the problem or the solution for McCain.
An element of the Christian community is not reconciled to McCain's candidacy but instead regards the prospective presidency of Barack Obama in the nature of a Biblical plague visited upon a sinful people. These militants look at former Baptist preacher Huckabee as "God's candidate" running for president in 2012. Whether they can be written off as merely a troublesome fringe group depends on Huckabee's course.
Huckabee's announced support of McCain is unequivocal, and he is regarded in the McCain camp as a friend and ally. But credible activists are spreading the word that Huckabee secretly allies himself with the bitter-end opposition. That hardly seems possible considering his public backing, but critics of Huckabee's 10 years as governor of Arkansas say he is all too capable of playing a double game.
McCain and Huckabee were friendly rivals in this year's Republican competition, sharing contempt for Mitt Romney. Indeed, McCain could not be where he is today had not Huckabee mobilized born-again voters to upset Romney in the Iowa caucuses. All efforts by Romney to overtake McCain in conservative Southern state primaries were stifled by Huckabee's success in those contests. Huckabee quickly endorsed McCain once he clinched the nomination. They bonded publicly in Little Rock, Ark., April 24 during McCain's recent tour.
Nevertheless, reports out of the evangelical community dispute Huckabee's support. One experienced, credible activist in Christian politics who would not let his name be used told me Huckabee in personal conversation with him embraced the concept that an Obama presidency might be what the American people deserve. That fits what has largely been a fringe position among evangelicals that the pain of an Obama presidency is in keeping with the Bible's prophecy.
According to this activist, at the heart of the let-Obama-win movement is longtime Virginia conservative leader Michael Farris -- the nation's leading home-school advocate, who is now chancellor of Patrick Henry College (in Purcellville, Va.) for home-schooled students. Best known politically as the losing Republican candidate for lieutenant governor of Virginia in 1993, Farris is regarded as one of the hardest-edged Christian politicians. He is reported in evangelical circles to promote the Biblical justification for an Obama plague-like presidency.
In conversations with me, Huckabee and Farris both denied advocating that an Obama presidency should be inflicted on the country. Huckabee was enthusiastic in his support for McCain, noting how well they had bonded during their primary competition.
Farris is another matter. A vigorous supporter of Huckabee for president, he has not endorsed McCain and may never do so (though he quickly adds he never would vote for Obama or Hillary Clinton). "I am concerned about what judges he (McCain) may name," Farris told me, "and the test will be who he selects for vice president." He made it clear that Huckabee would be his choice, and ruefully adds, "I understand he is not under consideration."
At McCain headquarters, there is no doubt expressed about Huckabee's loyalty. "I feel we haven't used him (Huckabee) enough," McCain campaign manger Rick Davis told me. McCain's strategists are more concerned that the libertarian Rep. Ron Paul has not abandoned his candidacy, keeps fighting for delegates and says he will not endorse McCain.
Even taking Huckabee's professions of support for McCain at face value, he is not leaving politics for the lecture circuit. He has formed the Huck PAC to back Republican candidates, his supporters have established a Website (Huck4America.com), and Huckabee backers are behind the Government Is Not God PAC to discourage McCain from naming Romney as his vice president.
Mike Huckabee has emerged from obscurity to become a major factor in American politics leading evangelical Christians. The McCain campaign counts on him to energize supporters who would rather wait for Huckabee 2012, not to encourage those dreams.
No Conservative who knows Huckster’s record as Governor could support him for President... ever. Or is shrinking your state GOP and handing ALL the state offices to the Democrats on a silver platter the new qualification for the highest office ? Bizarro world.
There’s a lot of speculation in the above article. If Huckabee is endorsing that a Barack Obama presidency is somehow good for America, he needs to be publically castigated for it and rightfully dealt his death knell in the Republican Party. I’m not at all willing to make that statement, and he deserves the benefit of the doubt. Backroom he-said, she-said conversations aren’t exactly solid stuff until there’s a constant murmur.
That said, does it really surprise anyone that the brain children behnd the “Government is not God” PAC are Huckabee supporters? What kind of a name is that, anyway? If you want to establish some kind of PAC to fight Mitt Romney, okay... It’s more than a little weird. Generally PACs actually stand for something. But who names a PAC “Government is Not God?” It’s true....but incredibly lame. And begs the question of why they’re bringing God into it, anyway, if their PAC isn’t more than just a bit bigoted against Mormons. Why even further open yourself up to that sort of speculation?
Not a good PR move, that one.
Bob Novak has forgotten more about politics that all of CNN & MSNBC’s entire staff ever knew. If Bob says it’s gonna rain, grab your buckets...
I’m not very religious minded but I thought masochism was a sin. Not to mention that to deliberately and knowingly bring such a plague on us with full awareness of the consequencies is simply unconscionable. Its like playing god. I thought religion taught humility.
Just going by what I’ve seen of him in the primaries, I have a pretty low regard for Huckabee who seems to be a populist and a social engineer.
If Gomer Huckleberry somehow wormed his way into the White House he’d be our Cromwell, and I don’t mean that in a good way.
Yeah, I’ll comment. I can do so as an evangelical, and a strong one at that.
Huck is not doing anyone any favors. His class warfare rhetoric and his shilling for McCain showed me he really cares more about himself than the nation.
I hope he chooses not to run again.
Huckabee is *not* a conservative, and most Christians are well aware of it.
Yes you did! A wasted vote is the same as pulling the leaver for the opposition.
Conservative Christians gave Huckabee wins in Southern states.
When was the consensus taken to decide that voting for one's convictions is a waste?
Later read
Open Letter to Senator McCain:
Dear Johnnyboy,
You need a CONSERVATIVE!!!!
Try Duncan Hunter.
That is true, Huckabee did spoil Romney’s campaign this time around, Christians (Conservative and less so) went for Huck in large enough numbers to keep Mitt from making any moves upward.
That said, Farris would have more pull then Huck if Patrick Henry College is THE destination for Homeschoolers, those folks are dead serious and would be willing to go in the direction Farris points them.
As for “Obamao is seen as a key element of end times prophecy”...Give me a break, were in the world did that pap spring forth from? Sounds like the writer visited some KOOK website somewhere, I’ve never heard that one..
???????????? Make no sense as Huckleberry is NO conservative.
I knew there was something I did'nt like about this a___ole. America deserves Hussein as much as my cat deserves to be waterboarded.
>>When was the consensus taken to decide that voting for one’s convictions is a waste?<<
When Bill Clinton got elected.
Fits the Huck persona. Huck lost me with his subtle indictments of mormonism early on, and his hostility to Mitt. In my mind Huck is a true bigot, slicker than WJC, plain mean spirited.
It is probably true.
Neither are his supporters. "Religious Right" is a far better term.
Really? I don't think he's been doing this.
May be? No, it definitely is in vain, voting for a guy who has never won an election, and has in fact lost miserably to the DEM nominee once. Keyes is an embarassment and anyone who votes for him needs meds.
Huckabee is definitely slick. He’s got a very soft touch while being very wily. Talented politician, that one.
Politics may be about principles, but Election Day is about the allocation of power. In a race where one of two candidates will certainly be the winner, every vote is a vote to allocate power to one person or another, even if the vote you cast is for someone other than the two with a chance.
In November you will vote to allocate the power to command the U.S. armed forces, direct U.S. relations with 5.7 bilion humans, issue executive orders and appoint SCOTUS justices to one person. That person will not be Alan Keyes.
Bingo.
He has, though some would argue he hasn't been trying hard enough. That was the point of his CPAC speech, and some of the policy stuff he's been talking about, like a tax credit/free market based health care plan.
THANK YOU!!!!!
Oh...the recent judicial speech was aimed at conservatives, IMHO, though I will admit that judicial activists aren’t popular with independents, either.
I have said over and over, that I would NEVER vote for John”ACE” McCain. I have had to go back and rethink what the consequence would be I stayed home. I will just eat my words and vote Republican this election cycle.
Twas nothing, FRiend. :-)
Thanks for keeping you eye on the road, as it were.
I just watched that speech last night, the Wake Forest speech. Excellent speech. Clever too, because he says he wants justices in the mold of Alito and Roberts, avoiding that big scary curse word (Scalia.) And in a way there is a difference, because they are quiet about it, whereas Scalia is quite outspoken. Anyway, call me crazy, I took that as a policy speech about judges, not an attempt to shore up the base. I know I’ll get laughed at, but I didn’t see that as pandering.
Which is definitely a better way to go than the DEMs. Again, call me crazy, but I see this as the articulation of a plan he supports, not pandering.
No, I certainly wouldn’t use the word “pandering” to describe any of the stuff he’s been doing to get conservatives on board. He’s doing what’s smart both for the swing voter audience and folks like us: reminding them that maverick or not, he’s going to provide a steady hand on the wheel. Left unspoken at this point is the fact that both of his oppponents are radical collectivists.
In November you will vote to allocate the power to command the U.S. armed forces, direct U.S. relations with 5.7 bilion humans, issue executive orders and appoint SCOTUS justices to one person. That person will not be Alan Keyes.
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Excellent words, excellent.
This hardshell Baptist has decided for the benefit of America and my family to cast his lot with McCaniac.
I do not like what he did on the amnesty bill or with McCaniac Finegold.
However, the travesty that Obama will bring to the POTUS is beyond comprehension and will undoubtedly change America for ever.
Just the judges of the SCOTUS who will either retire or die in office while he is president will guarantee that will happen.
If Obama wins in November, I will have been dead and gone and my children suffered for years before America could possibly recover from the devastation this radical brings to the office.
I'm just not in the mood to bet with my children's future on such a big chance.
Just the lowly opinion of a red state wannabe.
Theocrats,liberals and Chicken Pluckers...strange bedfellows.
Excellent words from you as well, FRiend.
This is one year where “just win, baby” is just fine with me.
This conservative Christian Texan was a FredHead from start to finish. Far too many of my close friends, however, seemed to support Huck reflexively.
Me too, but you won't have to write him in. He is running as an independent, supported by the American Independent Party, and will be on the ballot.
Duncan Hunter has already said he would not, as did Alan Keyes. That Huck considers it speaks volumes.
Yup. And I knew if that asshat was our nominee, we’d be p(huck)ed.
Fred couldn't even take Tennessee.
Maybe. But wasn't that after he and McCain (and, of course, Ron Paul) were the only ones left? Although I can't remember the exact order of each state's election, I do remember that every time a polling group would produce a breakdown on how each subgroup voted, it was always clear that conservative Christians never voted for Huckabee in any great majority.
On this issue, here are the comments of Mike Huckabee himself;
I was very disturbed by a column by Robert Novak that quoted some “anonymous source” in saying that while I strongly supported Senator McCain, I thought that maybe America “deserves Obama,” as if to say that I secretly hoped he won.
Where do people dream up this stuff? Forget the “anonymous” sources—there’s nothing anonymous about my stand and here it is. We don’t “deserve” Obama—we DESERVE a President with the character, convictions, experience, and wisdom to see the problems we face and try to lead us to solve them. We deserve a President who truly loves this country and from whom there is no doubt as to his respect for Faith, Family, and the kind of Freedom that those before us have given their lives to pass on to us. John McCain meets that criteria and that’s why I am campaigning for him and not hoping for Obama. The nonsense that I want Obama to win this year so I can run in 2012 is absurd. I love my country more than my own ambition. So let the record and truth be clear. And let the “anonymous” sources either show the courage to stand up and be accountable for their comments or shut up and leave commentary to people who aren’t afraid of their own shadow.
Excerpts taken from; http://www.huckpac.com/?FuseAction=Blogs.View&Blog_id=1638
I am really, really surprised at McCain’s choice of campaign buddies (chuckle).
Remember——as he departed the race a major loser, Rooty Giuliani endorsed McCain and famously said he would willingly campaign by McCain’s side.
To date, the only place Rooty has surfaced was in St Pat’s during the Pope’s visit-——being revived after choking on a Communion host.
Rooty was not even at Ground Zero Papal ceremonies. I guess Rooty was too weak to attend (/sarc).
McCain should consider campaigning with his good friend Rooty Giuliani by his side. They make a great team. The RINO and the Reconquistador.......ROTFL.
I have wondered what happened to Rudy.
“He is reported in evangelical circles to promote the Biblical justification for an Obama plague-like presidency”.
Does anyone know what this is about?
Thanks,
AR
Please be sure to post Keyes' big numbers in November. That is if you can do so without embarrassment.
Whatever public good will he may have accumulated has long since been dissipated.
Revelations about his mayoralty using public funds for his mistress, that he calculatedly hid in the budgets of obscure city agencies, was a deal breaker.
He torpedoed himself with that cockamamie presidential campaign strategy-——campaigning and losing every primary/caucus while saying he was “saving himself” for Fla.........there, he campaigned 61 days straight and came in a distant third.
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