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Is McCain Sailing Into a Storm?
RCP ^ | May 11th, 2008 | Steve Chapman

Posted on 05/11/2008 1:02:33 PM PDT by The_Republican

The last couple of months have been springtime in paradise for Republicans: the loveliest of all possible seasons. They have been watching two Democratic presidential candidates in an endless battle to destroy each other -- a process that does not appear to enhance the chance that the eventual nominee will win in November.

A recent Gallup poll shows John McCain leading both Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton in a head-to-head matchup. All this before Republicans even begin publicizing the worst that can be said about either of two candidates whose alleged defects provide a supremely target-rich environment.

But it's easy to let the individuals involved obscure larger factors that may prove more important. In a hurricane, even handsome, well-built boats can end up underwater. And right now, the GOP looks as though it may be sailing into a perfect storm.

Currently, 69 percent of Americans disapprove of the way President Bush is doing his job. That is the highest disapproval rating since Gallup began polling 70 years ago -- higher than Lyndon Johnson during the Vietnam War, Richard Nixon during Watergate, or Jimmy Carter during the Iran hostage crisis.

Today, notes polling expert Karlyn Bowman of the American Enterprise Institute, more Americans think the country is on the wrong track than at any time since the late 1970s -- which set the stage for the Republican resurgence of 1980, led by Ronald Reagan. The sentiment is even more negative now than it was in 1992, when the GOP lost the White House. Some 63 percent see the Iraq war as a mistake.

Bush's troubles have sent voters fleeing from his party. In 2004, 47 percent of Americans leaned toward the Democratic Party, with 44 percent leaning Republican -- a 3-point difference.

(Excerpt) Read more at realclearpolitics.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; barackobama; hillary; mccain; mccaintroubles; obama; osamaobama; storm

1 posted on 05/11/2008 1:02:33 PM PDT by The_Republican
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To: The_Republican
I thought this was about John McCaniac running into trouble.

This is nothing more than sour grapes about Bush.

2 posted on 05/11/2008 1:07:24 PM PDT by OKIEDOC (Kalifornia, a red state wannabe. I don't take Ex Lax I just read the New York Times.)
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To: The_Republican

McCain will be hit from all sides if the DEMS ever stop fighting.


3 posted on 05/11/2008 1:11:28 PM PDT by bmwcyle (I always rely on God and Guns in that order)
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To: bmwcyle
McCain will snooze through the general just like Bobdole did. He's a sacrificial candidate. He may even endorse his opponent.
4 posted on 05/11/2008 1:14:25 PM PDT by Luke21
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To: The_Republican

George Bush is in trouble because he chose to be a “compassionate conservative.” I.e., soft money, spending like a drunken congress, a war that he has utterly failed to explain adequately. I’m not anti-war, but all the reasons I have for supporting the war have been provided by people doing the President’s job of communicating.

And Bush has done nothing to challenge the Global Warming Hoax, the many other enviro-wacko hoaxes, the sealing up of our oil supply, and sealing up of the Escalante coal supply—which Clinton did in response to a massive bribe, etc., etc.

Bush has done nothing about the fact that Washington is swimming in a sea of Saudi oil-money bribes.

I vacillate between thinking the American people cannot elect an outright Red (Obama or Hillary!) but then I remember that about 100 million Americans have murdered their own babies, and more than 100 million Americans are receiving some form of welfare, and that more than half of American babies are born as a result of fornication and adultery, and I think—yes, they can easily elect a Red to the White House.

McCain can win, if he tries to win. On the other hand, he shows every sign of choosing to lose—by running a “positive,” “high-minded,” “nice” campaign. We can sure he’ll never mention that Obama/Hillary! are Reds, or their connections with Red Chinese donors, or Tony Rezko, or the abortion industry. He won’t propose anything exciting like the Fair Tax, or cleaning out the Congress of the bought-and-paid-for Arab-Oil-Money bribe-takers, or doing anything about the printing-press-mad Federal Reserve.

Obama/Hillary! can’t possibly win, but McCain seems determined to coast to a comfortable, high-minded, senile loss.


5 posted on 05/11/2008 1:15:35 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: The_Republican
To win, McCain will have to pry away a lot of voters who currently find the GOP unappealing.

The GOP is unappealing to me because of the likes of John McCain....not to mention their weak-in-the-knees approach to fighting the Democrats on important issues.

The only motivation I have in making a trip to the polls this election is reelecting Duncan Hunter as my congressman.

6 posted on 05/11/2008 1:19:13 PM PDT by Jagdgewehr
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To: bmwcyle
"McCain will be hit from all sides if the DEMS ever stop fighting."

Operation Caos?

7 posted on 05/11/2008 1:19:38 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron ("I fear we have woken a sleeping giant and filled her with a terrible resolve" - Osama 9-11-01?)
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To: The_Republican

And I forgot to mention: McCain is just as much in the pocket of the slave-traders (i.e., businesses who want cheap, malleable, illegal-alien workers) as the Democrats.

McCain is another Dole. An unimaginative, somnolent, bottom-feeding, corrupt, nasty drifter through the Washington cesspool.


8 posted on 05/11/2008 1:21:48 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: The_Republican
I wonder if the clintoons had anything to do with McPain? I think a pattern is emerging...


9 posted on 05/11/2008 1:25:54 PM PDT by WVKayaker ( "Life is pleasant. Death is peaceful. It's the transition that's troublesome..." I. Asimov)
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To: Las Vegas Ron
I see a Hitlery plot... or "Why is John McPain a wringer?" Unfortunately, Osama,bama has the playbook now!


10 posted on 05/11/2008 1:30:59 PM PDT by WVKayaker ( "Life is pleasant. Death is peaceful. It's the transition that's troublesome..." I. Asimov)
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To: The_Republican
The last couple of months have been springtime in paradise for Republicans

I don't agree. For the last couple of months, and really since 2006, Rush Limbaugh and much of the GOP attack machine has been on Hillary Clinton's side. That will change beginning now.

Those who wrongly saw Hillary as little more harmful than Bill, and calculated that establishment GOP could survive and even prosper under another Clinton presidency, are rightly opposed to the possibility of an Obama presidency. We now have them back on our side firing at the enemy instead of shooting us in the back.
11 posted on 05/11/2008 1:33:55 PM PDT by advance_copy (Stand for life or nothing at all)
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To: The_Republican

mclame is in the lead ONLY BECAUSE he is the lesser of the liberals, which brings some “hope” to our country afterall.


12 posted on 05/11/2008 1:38:18 PM PDT by NoGrayZone (A Lesser Evil Is Still Evil.)
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To: The_Republican

Prediction: The msm will ‘discover’ someone that heard John McCain use the n-word, and he will be painted as a racist.


13 posted on 05/11/2008 1:39:39 PM PDT by ConservaTexan (February 6, 1911)
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To: The_Republican

The Republicans have totally underestimated the severity of the Health Care problem in this country. Face it, market based solutions and tax credits aren’t going to work for the low to mid income middle class, especially the self employed, those in their 50s, and those with pre-existing conditions. Health Care costs are crushing these folks, and I fear that they will run to the Democrats for relief, despite the unintended consequenses of universal health care.


14 posted on 05/11/2008 1:41:40 PM PDT by liberateUS
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To: advance_copy
We now have them back on our side firing at the enemy instead of shooting us in the back.

No, you don't. McCain obviously wanted to run against Obama, but absent a magic bullet, he'll find himself reeling from the Obama/MSM punches by November, just like Hillary.

Can McCain even articulate what a socialist/Marxist mentality is? I doubt it, but that's what he's running against. If he intends to outpander it, good luck with that strategy.

15 posted on 05/11/2008 1:44:27 PM PDT by browardchad ("We are all mavericks now." -- Rush Limbaugh)
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To: The_Republican
Currently, 69 percent of Americans disapprove of the way President Bush is doing his job. That is the highest disapproval rating since Gallup began polling 70 years ago --

And Gallup probably went the the New York Times or Newsweak news room to push it there. So Gallup, what's the Democrat party Congresses approval rating? ... Yeah, I thought so.

16 posted on 05/11/2008 1:45:04 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: liberateUS
True, and the longer we mandate treatment regardless of willingness to pay, the more we bankrupt existing hospitals, making the problem worse. Eventually, the entire system will collapse, and the Feds will be there with the cure. Current law ensures that affordable health care will not exist. Emergency medicine will collapse first, taking down hospitals.

I hear a lot of Freeps saying that the government should just stay out of it, and while I agree with a lot of that, most people are not going to ignore something like a 65 year old woman with a broken hip who can't get treatment. They will demand a government solution. Health care WILL be an issue, and conservatives are going to have to come up with a plan that is something other than "get the government out and let the free market work." The government ain't getting out and things are going to happen.

17 posted on 05/11/2008 1:53:27 PM PDT by Richard Kimball (We're all criminals. They just haven't figured out what some of us have done yet.)
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To: The_Republican

Captain Queeg will lose in November. The GOP elite and the media picked a sure loser, guaranteeing President Hussein or President Hillary in the fall. We are in for very bad times ahead - all because the Republican party is composed of spineless weasels that have no courage or leadership qualities.


18 posted on 05/11/2008 2:02:45 PM PDT by Astronaut
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To: OKIEDOC

The article makes a wonderful and very important point.

When the voters thought the country was on the wrong track it voted for Reagan and conservatism.

The same applies here, most here know that Bush and his pack of RINO’s in league with their socialist pals in the DNC are in fact leading the country in the wrong direction, Socialism.

The answer is less socialism and the question that thaey should ask is what direction they think we should be heading.


19 posted on 05/11/2008 2:06:30 PM PDT by stockpirate (30,000,000 reasons to NOT support McCain, immigration.)
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To: bmwcyle

“McCain will be hit from all sides if the DEMS ever stop fighting.”

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Perhaps one or two posters here, could provide the Republican candidate, some cover and SUPPORT.

Just a thought. :)


20 posted on 05/11/2008 2:08:56 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (FLEX FUEL NOW! - send your fuel dollars to Kansas, not to Hugo Chavez)
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To: stockpirate

Excellent point, thanks.


21 posted on 05/11/2008 2:10:38 PM PDT by OKIEDOC (Kalifornia, a red state wannabe. I don't take Ex Lax I just read the New York Times.)
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To: Arthur McGowan

>> McCain can win, if he tries to win. On the other hand, he shows every sign of choosing to lose—by running a “positive,” “high-minded,” “nice” campaign.

+1 to that observation


22 posted on 05/11/2008 2:14:35 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (La Raza hates white folks. And John McCain loves La Raza!)
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To: stockpirate

The main difference is that the DNC candidates are Horrible choices. Dean really is whacked. They should have easily won this election. A campaign can’t be won based on gender or race. Those are factors for both of McCain’s opponents.

They are also choices that will motivate Republicans to get in line and do the right thing. Obama certainly motivates me to act!

The problem with Bush is that he is not a good communicator. Still, he is a good man and I think history will reflect that.

I think it will look more like Kerry/Bush. The swing vote will go to McCain.


23 posted on 05/11/2008 2:17:30 PM PDT by mgist
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To: The_Republican

Oh for Petes sake. McCain IS the storm. He is going to be obliterated in the general elections.

McCain cannot even get the base behind him. Democrats will vote for a true Democrat and McCain will will be the dumbass that the GOP elites thought could win.

Face it GOP elites. They are going for the non war democrat. That ain’t MCain. People are not going to vote for a freaking pro war republican. Ain’t going to happen. Problem with McCain, he is a Democrat on every issue that matters but the war, on that Dems are going to vote for Dems.


24 posted on 05/11/2008 2:23:01 PM PDT by indylindy (I had almost forgotten that McCain is the nominee. Too bad I was reminded.)
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To: Arthur McGowan
"McCain seems determined to coast to a comfortable, high-minded, senile loss."

It appears that way - doesn't it?

You don't defeat long toothed Reds by "taking the high road and not going negative" as McCain has promised....

In that strategy lies certain defeat.

Adversaries like Clinton or Obama need to be grasped firmly by the throat and squeezed until all the ugly facts are revealed.

McCain's pretended gentlemanly position is unlike all his prior political behavior...
McCain had no problem attacking and insulting Republicans, or the military families of our MIA/POWs during the kangaroo hearing he and Kerry mismanaged...

McCain is behaving as the "RINO" selected by the DNC to take a dive in the 8th round...

25 posted on 05/11/2008 2:25:51 PM PDT by river rat (Semper Fi - You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: browardchad
"he'll find himself reeling from the Obama/MSM punches by November"

I agree. McCain won't know what hit him. He'll be absolutely baffled when his "friends" in the media turn on him, chew him up and spit him out.

He may finally understand that his "buddies" were laughing at him, not with him, but by then it will be too late.

26 posted on 05/11/2008 2:29:44 PM PDT by EEDUDE
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To: All

Well then, if all this is inevitable why not just lay back and enjoy it? It does no good to get oneself in an upoar over something we have no control over anymore, does it?


27 posted on 05/11/2008 2:31:46 PM PDT by Russ
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To: river rat

“You don’t defeat long toothed Reds by “taking the high road and not going negative” as McCain has promised....”

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Actually it might work. Remember Obama used it quite effectively against Hillary.

There will be a time for McCain to say “ok enough is enough”, and to take a couple swings. But not to start out with.

He needs to appear a gentleman at first.

Plenty of time later, for the mudslinging. And it might help if Republicans (hint, hint) other than McCain, did the mud slinging when the time comes.

Sort of a James Carville role, for someone.

Sean Hannity. Ann Coulter.

John Bolton. :)


28 posted on 05/11/2008 2:39:01 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (FLEX FUEL NOW! - send your fuel dollars to Kansas, not to Hugo Chavez)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
The way it goes recently in FR, you sound like a Freeper mole in DU boards... :-)
29 posted on 05/11/2008 2:58:35 PM PDT by paudio (Michelle Obama: a Typical Black Woman)
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To: Arthur McGowan

“I’m not anti-war, but all the reasons I have for supporting the war have been provided by people doing the President’s job of communicating.”

You said it, brother. Bush has done a devastatingly horrendous job of COMMUNICATING with the American people, especially on the war. There were lots of good reasons to depose Saddam Hussein, but most of them seem to completely escape Bush and his staff.


30 posted on 05/11/2008 3:40:30 PM PDT by navyguy (Some days you are the pigeon, some days you are the statue.)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

No, if the DEMS can stop fighting, the press and the DEMS will unload on him.


31 posted on 05/11/2008 5:58:52 PM PDT by bmwcyle (I always rely on God and Guns in that order)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

McCain has to learn not to shoot his cover.


32 posted on 05/11/2008 5:59:51 PM PDT by bmwcyle (I always rely on God and Guns in that order)
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To: river rat
McCain's pretended gentlemanly position

Your right.

Imagine if this Larry Sinclair thing is supported by the Limo driver.... ole Mcdole will probably say that he doesn't comment on other peoples personal lifestyle.

But you know, a person doesn't change his short temper behavior of almost three quarters of a century in one year. He will lose his temper... count on it. Then he will apologize ... then repeat the process again and again

Larry Sinclair will end up saving the Union ... and or others like him.

33 posted on 05/11/2008 6:35:49 PM PDT by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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To: bmwcyle
"No, if the DEMS can stop fighting, the press and the DEMS will unload on him."

I am quite sure that when you reconsider my post, you will recognize that was exactly my point

34 posted on 05/11/2008 7:15:54 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron ("I fear we have woken a sleeping giant and filled her with a terrible resolve" - Osama 9-11-01?)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
Perhaps one or two posters here, could provide the Republican candidate, some cover and SUPPORT.

This is Free Republic, not Free Republican.

35 posted on 05/14/2008 1:50:02 PM PDT by MaggieCarta (Disobedience is in our DNA. - Charlton Heston)
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To: MaggieCarta
This is Free Republic, not Free Republican.

:::CLAPPING LOUDLY!!!:::

36 posted on 05/14/2008 1:56:54 PM PDT by TADSLOS (The GOP death march to the gravesite is underway.)
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To: TADSLOS
This is Free Republic, not Free Republican.

:::CLAPPING LOUDLY!!!:::

Thanks!

37 posted on 05/14/2008 4:20:43 PM PDT by MaggieCarta (Disobedience is in our DNA. - Charlton Heston)
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