Posted on 05/11/2008 12:14:47 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
Refusing to go gently into that good night, Clinton supporter Jerome Armstrong stubbornly sticks to the message that Hillary Clinton can win the Democratic Presidential nomination. He points to West Virginia as a state that serves as a good indicator of what Armstrong believes to be Barack Obama's general election problems. Sensitive to charges that fretting about Obama's general election appeal in West Virginia could be tantamount to giving credence to the views of racists, Armstrong spends a goodly amount of time denouncing anyone who would dismiss as racists anti-Obama voters in West Virginia.
This isn't particularly interesting save for two observations:
The Clinton folks actually believe that their candidate might yet pull off some sort of miracle and capture the nomination.
Despite all of the talk that Obama's nomination is now inevitable and that with said inevitability will come newfound party unity, seething anger and resentment continues to define the mood of Clinton supporters. This is, perhaps, somewhat understandable; at the beginning of the nomination contest, I don't imagine that people like Armstrong really ever thought that Obama would be able to wrest the nomination away from Clinton when they consulted the stars. Nevertheless, one would have thought that the various pro-Clinton factions in the netroots would have begun to reconcile themselves to an Obama nomination and then line up to support him against John McCain and the Republicans.
Well, perhaps eventually, they will. But for now, there remains seething anger and resentment and since it is almost the middle of May already, one could easily see the resentment continuing through the summer--especially if Hillary Clinton decides to push through the rest of the primary schedule and goes to the Democratic National Convention without having fallen on her sword. Ted Kennedy kept on fighting up to and during the convention in New York in 1980 even though he had significantly less support then than Clinton does and will have during this electoral contest. I am sure that this information will not be lost on the Clintons, I would not be surprised if they continued to play every trick in the book--and some that may not be in the book--to try to win the nomination at the last moment during a knife fight in Denver and while I have not recently checked the stock prices for popcorn companies, I don't imagine that they have gone down all that much.
Yes! Hell hath no fury like Hillary Clinton scorned, and she feels scorned that the MSM, Dems, and camp Obama are trying to take what she feels is owed to her away.
HILLARY: Over? Did you say "over"? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when Vince Foster took that headshot from the Schoolbook Depository? Hell no!
HOWARD WOLFSON: [whispering] Vince Foster?
TERRY MCAULIFFE: Forget it, she's rolling.
HILLARY: And it ain't over now. 'Cause when the goin' gets tough... [thinks hard] the tough get elected! Who's with me? Let's go! [runs out, alone; then returns] What the f--- happened to the Clinton Machine I used to know? Where's the spirit? Where's the chutzpah? "Ooh, we're afraid to go with you Hillary, we might get indicted." Well just kiss my ass from now on! Not me! I'm not gonna take this. Obama, he's a loser! McCain, loser! Ron Paul--
TERRY MCAULIFFE: F---ing Loser! Hillary's right. Menopausal, but absolutely right. We gotta take these bastards. Now we could do it by rebuilding our campaign around the issues, and by always telling the American People the truth, but that would take four more years and cost millions of dollars of her money. No, I think we have to go all out. I think that this situation absolutely requires a really futile and stupid gesture be done at the Convention.
HILLARY: We're just the guys to do it.
BILL: Let's do it.
Obama campaign meme: If your not with us you are racist.
I would never have believed that I would have wanted Hill over
anyone, sad to say its true.
barbra ann
'Why Grandmother, what big eyes you have!'
Me too.
You are not alone. It is a reflection of the sad state of affairs in the U.S. of A. that B.O. may actually infest the White House. Given that prospect, I’d choose (swallowing hard) the Hildebeast.
If Hillary can beat Obama in Oregon, what will the Democrats do?
"Cut the Cake!"
THAT’S the spirit beast! Don’t stop fighting until August 28!
“By the time we got to Denver-stock we were half a million strong!”
Stay with it Rhino butt!
Rush still thinks his “Operation Chaos” is still alive. Personally, by continuing this garbage, Rush is losing his credibility.
Hillary says she will stay in to the convention, until a candidate has been selected. Rush admits that Obama is the weaker candidate, yet he is continuing to support the beast. WHY?
He should be out supporting the republican candidate McCain whom he hates.
hilllereee is SO yesterday. She has no dignity...hanging on like a beggar.
I wish he would start supporting McCain with at least half the enthusiasm he has supported Hillary.
“Nothing’s Over Until We Decide It Is!”
Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
It is fitting, no? All of these "FOBs" whom the Clintons historically threw overboard the instant there was trouble are now bailing on them when they are needed most. What goes around comes around.
Message, Juan? You cannot give the finger to those who would be your strongest allies and hope to win.
We need Hellary to fight to the bitter end and annoy the RAT party so much that she has no chance at the nomination in 2012 or 2016. Also to drive her personal finances into bancrupcy.
oops...villian=villain
If the Clintons aren't dispatched NOW, Chelsea will be President in a few years also!!
Obama will get NOTHING done....Hillary will.
Would anyone be surprised if Obamma had an unfortunate accident within the next couple months? Or maybe without rational explanation, decided he didn’t want to be president after all? The Clinton Machine is just getting started...
Again, the profanity is TERRIBLE...But it's in text form, not something that will come out over the speakers.
Hillary's Downfall (YouTube -- Hilarious)
Hillary in the bunker BUMP!
Cheers!
Currently Obama leads Hillary in pledged delegates 1592 to 1424. Hillary leads in pledged superdelegates 273 to 272, which means that Obama has 167 delegate lead. He needs 161 delegates to reach 2025, the magic number for the nomination.
There are 6 primaries left with a total of 217 pledged delegates at stake and there are 251 uncommitted super delegates. Assuming that Obama and Hillary split the remaining pledged delegates [108 for Obama], Obama would need 59 out of the remaining 251 super delegates to get the nomination.
Even assuming that Hillary gets 60% of the remaining pledge delegates, an unlikely possibility since Hillary has surpassed 60% of the vote in only one state, Arkansas, that would give her 130 delegates to Obama's 87. Hillary would then have a total of 1,827 delegates to Obama's 1,951. Hillary would need to win 198 of the remaining 251 uncommitted super delegates or 79%. In contrast, even under the scenario of Hillary winning 60% of the remaining pledged delegates, Obama would need 74 of the uncommitted 251 superdelegates or 29%.
Stick a fork in her, Hillary is done.
Hillary tells a lot of lies but she did state at least one truth. "He can't win Bill. He just can't win."
The dems have put themselves in a position where she can't win the nomination and he can't win the election.
8 years in the White House DOWN THE DRAIN!
CLASSIc JOHN BELUSHI. “It ain’t over until we decide it’s over.” http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpSFExhRdBA&NR=1
Gore wouldn’t go quietly either...like some villian in a bad horror movie who won’t die!
Ha,ha,ha...and...we see where all of that got HIM! Well, maybe hillllereee can follow in his footsteps and create a “Global Cooling” scam too.
“nothing’s over until we decide it is!”
jawohl and heil hillary!!!
Good work, very creative!
Maybe add line like “Get Carville to do it, he’s a sneaky little ——”
“Road trip!”
“Do you mind if we dance wif your dates?”
OBamBam doesn’t have a chance.
Mark my words....
“obambam doesn’t have a chance.”
they say hillary has more than a thirty-point lead over obama in west virginia and one or two other states. (forgot which ones)
The Clintons need to be retired for good!
Who wouldn't smell a rat then?
The Clintons cannot win without the Black vote and they would not accept Hillary replacing Obama under 'mysterious' circumstances.
The argument that Hillary is making to the Super-Delegates is that she is the best candidate, not that Obama cannot win.
The Super-delegates were only set in place to make sure someone did not get nominated who clearly could not win the General election.
Hillary has admitted that Obama could win the General herself.
Being the 'better' candidate is not going to be the basis of overturning the popular will of the Democratic primary voters.
The Super-delegates are moving to him slowly but surely.
Much will be made about the size of Hillary's win in W.Vir but it is irrelevant.
“much will be said about the size of hillary’s win in west virginia but it is irrelevant.”
some reports have said that hillary does well with “working people” (in west virginia and kentucky) and obama with the “educated” (in oregon and wyoming).
will so-called working people go with mccain or will they stay with the democrat if obama gets the nomination?
(one guesses that the self-proclaimed intellectual geniuses will stay with obama under any circumstances.)
Exactly.
Hildabeast better hope Bambam doesnt’ have any true accidents because nobody would believe it was an accident given her history with dealing with her enemies.
Because by giving Hillary a reason to stay in the race (the faint hope of actually getting the nomination, not just sheer willpower), Obama must take Hillary seriously and both must shred each other for a long time. McCain is helped hugely because he doesn't actually have to take either of them on so long as the other is doing his dirty work. The Democratic party hemmhorages resources and is approaching tearing itself apart.
Hillary can't win. Obama is, indeed, ahead - and his supporters will make sure he gets the nomination by any means necessary. ...but so long as the race continues, both are well on their way to burning out. Simply declaring "I'm staying in this race" isn't enough, the statistical non-zero chance of her winning must be maintained and the outcome kept uncertain due to rule changes.
If not for Operation Chaos, Hillary would be the Democratic version of Ron Paul: still running, but nobody cares. Thanks to Rush, chaos reigns on the left.
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