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Man Accused Of Providing Illegal Taxi Service (Nanny State Alert)
Local10.com. ^ | May 9, 2008 | Local10.com.

Posted on 05/10/2008 10:27:46 PM PDT by Lusis

MIAMI GARDENS, Fla. -- A man who said he thought he was just helping a woman in need is accused of running an illegal taxi service.

Miami-Dade County's Consumer Services Department has slapped Rosco O'Neil with $2,000 worth of fines, but O'Neil claims he is falsely accused.

"I ain't running nothing illegal," O’Neil said.

The 78-year-old said he was walking into a Winn-Dixie to get some groceries when he was approached by a woman who said she needed a ride.

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How is this not entrapment?
1 posted on 05/10/2008 10:27:46 PM PDT by Lusis
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To: Lusis

What a waste of tax papers money.
It is just plain stupid.


2 posted on 05/10/2008 10:30:50 PM PDT by svcw (There is no plan B.)
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To: Lusis

Too many damn government employees. This one needs to go collect garbage and find out what a real job is like.


3 posted on 05/10/2008 10:39:10 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Ted Kennedy - Codename -> "Bobber")
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To: Lusis

This is stupid, but he didn’t help his case when he took money, especially when he let the woman talk him into setting a price.

On the other hand, I remember sharing rides from college, and we’d pay for gas.

My guess is the desire of government to prosecute competition with taxi services is directly related to the amount of taxes and fees the government gets licensing taxis.


4 posted on 05/10/2008 10:41:58 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Lusis

At least this story is on the local TV news. The arrest should be laughed out of court.

Quite likely he has good grounds for a false arrest suit.


5 posted on 05/10/2008 10:42:30 PM PDT by DeFault User
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To: Lusis

This is beyond preposterous.

Real criminals are running loose and the government is arresting a good Samaritan, for doing a good deed.


6 posted on 05/10/2008 10:52:08 PM PDT by FocusNexus ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: Lusis

I’d love to sit on his jury!
An unchangeable not-guilty vote.


7 posted on 05/10/2008 10:53:48 PM PDT by Bobalu (What do I know, I'm a Typical White Guy)
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To: DeFault User

There are several possibilities here for the “real” which the city has yet to tell. Perhaps a taxi “mafia” which controls things in town? A town is that going bankrupt because their revenue collection isn’t effective?

If I were the guy....I’d round up 40 friends and visit the next town council meeting. I’d demand an accounting on how many employees are on the city’s payroll and what their true functions are. When they come to the taxi inspector...you’ll find that its a cousin of someone on the city council (my bet). They invited a job for the guy.


8 posted on 05/10/2008 10:54:52 PM PDT by pepsionice
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To: Lusis

When the rates for murder, rape, theft, car jacking, kid napping, and gun running go down in this part of Florida I MIGHT entertain the idea of this kind of policing. Since it never will due to democrat leadership thwarting real policing I won’t hold my breath.

This is an insulting waste of time and assets and is a punch int he face of those who are SET UP simply for being kind to their fellow man.


9 posted on 05/10/2008 10:55:40 PM PDT by ICE-FLYER (God bless and keep the United States of America)
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To: Lusis
"consumer services department targeting people providing illegal taxi services"

Who knew there was such a thing?? Good grief! The gestapo is everywhere - even your neighborhood grocery store! :~(

10 posted on 05/10/2008 10:56:53 PM PDT by My hearts in London - Everett (I'd rather be single than wish I was.)
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To: Lusis

This is BS, I don’t care if he accepted money or not, this is BS. There can be no legitimate reason for this kind of utter BS. They can teach terrorists to fly jets and not land, but this poor old guy just does someone a favor and they are all over it.


11 posted on 05/10/2008 10:59:41 PM PDT by WildcatClan (Don't blame me...............I supported Duncan Hunter.)
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To: Lusis

Let’s see if I understand this...a 78yr old gentleman out for groceries is approached by a woman who says she needs a ride...He did not approach her....then SHE offers him money, SHE asks him to state a price...HE did not ask her for money...
WHERE IS THE CRIME!!!!
And we wonder why there are no good samaratains anymore...


12 posted on 05/10/2008 11:01:42 PM PDT by celticfreedom ("Meekness Isn't Weakness... it is power under control")
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To: Lusis

They would have a point if this man was taxing people back and forth from Winn Dixie all the time for pay without a permit. This kind man was doing a good deed. He wanted to help this woman get home. To fine this man for being a good samaritan is outrageous. Heck, I give him credit. These days I just wouldn’t feel safe letting a stranger in my car.


13 posted on 05/10/2008 11:02:12 PM PDT by Pinkbell
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To: Lusis
"She said the reason she targeted him (is because) she saw him sitting in his car for a few minutes"

...and a wide stance.

14 posted on 05/10/2008 11:07:58 PM PDT by endthematrix (Now that we use our corn for fuel, when do we eat coal for dinner?)
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To: Lusis
So now, thanks to government sting like this one, apparently the only safe course of action when a lady comes up to you asking for help is to refuse?

The 78-year-old said he was walking into a Winn-Dixie to get some groceries when he was approached by a woman who said she needed a ride.

...She said, 'I need help getting home.'"...

...As it turned out, the woman was an undercover employee with the consumer services department targeting people providing illegal taxi services...

...After O'Neil dropped off the woman, police surrounded him, issued him two citations and impounded his minivan. On top of the fees, it cost O'Neil an additional $400 to retrieve his minivan from the impound lot...

"It's not entrapment because she didn't expect him to provide her transportation," said Sonya Perez, a spokeswoman for the consumer services department.

O'Neil claims he was just being kind and providing a ride to a lady in need...

"She asked me, 'How much you charging?'" O'Neil said. "I said, 'Anything you give me....

15 posted on 05/10/2008 11:10:05 PM PDT by Screaming_Gerbil (How do you know that the light at the end of the tunnel isn't a muzzle flash?)
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To: Lusis

No good deed goes unpunished these days.


16 posted on 05/10/2008 11:26:28 PM PDT by microgood
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To: Bobalu
Yes, a case like this could very well end in jury nullification leading to what is called a dead-letter or appeal of said law.

/End lawyer mode. ;^)

17 posted on 05/10/2008 11:28:46 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Lusis
I wonder how much he asked for in the end. doesn't really matter in this case cause he wasn't asking her if she wanted a ride.

But it would be interesting if he was asking for gas money or the price a taxi would charge.

18 posted on 05/10/2008 11:30:10 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* 'I love you guys')
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To: celticfreedom

“There’s all kinds of possibilities, but the fact of this particular case, what our enforcement officers witnessed — because we had several on the scene, plus a Miami-Dade police officer — and all the information came back the same, that this was a business transaction,” Perez said.


So every officer backed up each other’s story? I’m shocked.


19 posted on 05/10/2008 11:30:14 PM PDT by kenth (Just think, .000001783% of the population is screwing it all up for the rest of us.)
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To: Lusis

No good deed goes unpunished.


20 posted on 05/10/2008 11:33:34 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: kenth

A business transaction???
Did he say that he’d give her a ride home only if she would agree to pay him?? Did he request any type of payment?? From what I read..SHE offered to pay him for what I’m assuming he thought was an act of kindness....this whole situation is just sickening!


21 posted on 05/10/2008 11:42:56 PM PDT by celticfreedom ("Meekness Isn't Weakness... it is power under control")
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To: Lusis

It is entrapment.


22 posted on 05/10/2008 11:52:21 PM PDT by antonia ("Information is terrain and someone will occupy it.")
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To: WildcatClan
This poor old guy, lets say, takes your mother home form Winn Dixie, and she pays him something for it. Before they get there, he gets t-boned (not his fault, lets say) and your mother gets killed. Now you sue. Guess what? You get nothing.

Every auto insurance in the state of Florida has an exception clause; you ride someone for hire and your insurance is null and void.

So. What do you think of your poor old guy now?

23 posted on 05/10/2008 11:52:51 PM PDT by tenthirteen
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To: tenthirteen

How would anyone know, in this case, that she was planning to pay him? It just looks like someone is giving her a ride.


24 posted on 05/11/2008 12:00:19 AM PDT by Marie2 (I used to be disgusted. . .now I try to be amused.)
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To: tenthirteen
I did that years ago. I helped someone find an all night auto part store it was late and they were stranded. As we were driving I got into my first traffic accident.

The insurance company kept asking me who he was and why he was riding in the car. Because they sued. I told them who they were. I know the insurance company in the end paid for it but it was a big ordeal.

25 posted on 05/11/2008 12:04:13 AM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* 'I love you guys')
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To: Lusis
Utterly ridiculous. At least this story will outrage the people of Miami and hopefully the tickets will be dismissed and he'll be reimbursed the impound fees. All crap like this does is make people afraid to do a good deed. But that's just what Democrats want...people totally dependent on government.
26 posted on 05/11/2008 12:07:35 AM PDT by AlaskaErik (I served and protected my country for 31 years. Democrats spent that time trying to destroy it.)
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To: Lusis

Obscene waste of time and energy. Miami residents can confidently vote themselves a tax break because they clearly have way too many public employees.


27 posted on 05/11/2008 12:08:36 AM PDT by monkeyshine
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To: Lusis
What a very stupid undercover entrapment operation.

I have helped give a person a ride home, and I am not a taxi service. It is my right to let anyone ride with me if I choose. I do not expect money, but if the other person insist, I may take something to cover the gas, but that is rare.

28 posted on 05/11/2008 12:16:14 AM PDT by rawhide
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To: Lusis

So picking up someone who is stranded on the side of the road, because their car broke down, can get you arrested, especially if you take something in return, whether it be a couple of dollars for your gas, or a nice cold can of Coca-Cola? Either way, you were paid for your services.


29 posted on 05/11/2008 12:21:51 AM PDT by rawhide
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To: Lusis

Look at the guy. He’s an older black guy just minding his own business. Then he gets asked for a favor and they’re off to the races.

This kind of thing destroys trust in the government. It angers me.


30 posted on 05/11/2008 12:34:18 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Who opposes John McCain's leftist agenda? The RNC, Rep Congress members, the Democrats? Good luck!)
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To: FocusNexus

No good deed goes unpunished.

It is alarming just how many things are taxed, regulated and against the law now.

Everyday there are more and more laws. More laws mean more government, more jails, more lawyers.

If all of the stupid laws were repealed, think of all the people who would be unemployed!

I understand we do need some laws in order to be a civilized society, but I can’t help wondering if it’s gotten to the point where our economy actually depends on excessive laws.

If all of the stupid laws were done away with, would our economy crumble?


31 posted on 05/11/2008 12:53:14 AM PDT by Califreak (Hangin' with Hunter-under the bus "Dread and Circuses")
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To: AlaskaErik

>people totally dependent on government.<

Which is why they are trying to destroy the middle class.


32 posted on 05/11/2008 12:57:08 AM PDT by Califreak (Hangin' with Hunter-under the bus "Dread and Circuses")
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To: Lusis
This article is over twenty years old, but it seems more relevant now than ever:

The Law Enforcement Growth Industry

33 posted on 05/11/2008 2:13:53 AM PDT by metesky ("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
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To: Lusis
I don't care if she paid him or not - if he's not advertizing himself as a taxi service, then he's not a taxi service. I guess the moral of the story is to not give rides to little old ladies in Miami Gardens, Florida.

It wouldn't bother me a bit if a couple of "Consumer Services" employees turned up missing.

34 posted on 05/11/2008 3:15:56 AM PDT by meyer (Still conservative, no longer Republican)
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To: svcw

Government robots have now the right to hurt citizens with impunity. People in government responsible for this should go to prison and get a clue. This is how things like runaway freight train bureaucratic lead genocide starts.


35 posted on 05/11/2008 3:37:51 AM PDT by JudgemAll (control freaks, their world & their problem with my gun and my protecting my private party)
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To: Lusis
The cops don't have anything better to do? Where's the ACLU on this? The guy needs some legal representation to defend himself against this pack of bureaucratic b***f***ers..
36 posted on 05/11/2008 3:54:39 AM PDT by csvset
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To: Red Steel
Jury Nullification
37 posted on 05/11/2008 4:03:14 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
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To: Lusis
"She asked me, 'How much you charging?'" O'Neil said. "I said, 'Anything you give me.' She said, 'No, I need a price.'"

This is where he made a mistake. The article didn’t mention if he quoted a price - but it is assumed. If he had stuck with “Whatever you want to give me” it would have been hard to make a case.
The way the article is written the same charge could apply to many who car pool. I know several people who each kick in $20 a week to the one with the best gas mileage to cover gas. I sometimes give a friend a ride to work, in exchange she gives me $10. It’s a 64 mile round trip and takes over an hour so I’m not making any money from it - am I operating an illegal taxi?

38 posted on 05/11/2008 4:06:04 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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To: Lusis

Sure is nice to see police resources being so well used to protect us from ferocious criminals like this. Taxpayer money well spent. /sarc of course/


39 posted on 05/11/2008 4:13:14 AM PDT by pyrless
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To: CharlesWayneCT
My guess is the desire of government to prosecute competition with taxi services is directly related to the amount of taxes and fees the government gets licensing taxis.

There’s more to it than just collecting licensing fees.
I drove a cab for several years. Our cars were inspected by the city every year, our meters checked for accuracy. Drivers had to undergo a police criminal background check every time we renewed our permits. Our companies had to have proper insurance coverage. Gypsy cabs are not regulated. I reported one myself - he had no insurance on his car, and no fixed rates. If he had been involved in an injury producing accident the passengers would have had to foot their medical bills themselves. He was also advertising - posting handbills at bus stops and near businesses.
In the case mentioned in the article, there wasn’t enough information given to determine if he was running Gypsy or was an innocent good Samaritan. I’m inclined to believe he was a good Samaritan. A Gypsy would have quoted a price right up front.

40 posted on 05/11/2008 4:20:44 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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To: Lusis

41 posted on 05/11/2008 4:25:30 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (The women got the vote and the Nation got Harding.)
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To: R. Scott
I sometimes give a friend a ride to work, in exchange she gives me $10.

Better check your insurance policy. If she's injured in an accident, the insurer may, in fact, claim that you were operating a commericial taxi service, taking passengers in carriage in exchange for money, and refuse to honor any claims.

42 posted on 05/11/2008 4:28:59 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (The women got the vote and the Nation got Harding.)
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To: Lusis

The Founding Fathers have to be looking down with absolute disgust and loathing on what we’ve allowed their creation to turn into.


43 posted on 05/11/2008 4:45:05 AM PDT by SUSSA
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To: svcw

Since violent and economic crimes were ended by the Democrat Metro area administration the police no longer have anything to do except march in parades, eat donuts and find ways to extract money from the population.


44 posted on 05/11/2008 5:35:33 AM PDT by arthurus
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To: Lusis
"It's not entrapment because she didn't expect him to provide her transportation," said Sonya Perez, a spokeswoman for the consumer services department.

What a POS liar! I can't see any judge, even a lib one, letting this outright piece of entrapment stand.

45 posted on 05/11/2008 5:38:59 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner ("We must not forget that there is a war on and our troops are in the thick of it!"--Duncan Hunter)
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To: Lusis
My bet is a jury says not guilty:

"She asked me, 'Do I do a service?'" O'Neil said. "I told her no. She said, 'I need help getting home.'"
O'Neil told the woman if she was still there when he finished his shopping, he would give her a ride. She was, so he did.

O'Neil said he never even discussed money until the woman insisted upon it.
"She asked me, 'How much you charging?'" O'Neil said. "I said, 'Anything you give me.' She said, 'No, I need a price.'"

46 posted on 05/11/2008 5:49:47 AM PDT by visualops (artlife.us . nature photography desktop wallpapers)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

BTTT


47 posted on 05/11/2008 5:52:07 AM PDT by Unicorn (Too many wimps around.)
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To: DoughtyOne

This kind of thing destroys trust in the government. It angers me.


There are people who trust the government?

A few days ago, someone started pounding on our door. As I was going to the door, realized it was two people, as one of them was cupping his hands to the window trying to look in then banged on the window. I decided first to peer from the blinds to see who it was.

It was our county deputies. So of course I went out to see what the problem was. They were looking for a different house number; ours is posted prominently at the end of the drive and on the house. They gave me a name and I told them the truth, had never heard of the guy. They then proceeded to ask me what he drives. Does that make any sense?

All this, trying to see inside our home, banging on the door and window, it was no mere knock, and they’ve got the wrong house or were too lazy to continue on up the road looking for the correct address.

The current sheriff is a democrat, and from what I’ve seen and heard, it’s run exactly that way. One of his lackeys is running for the sheriff position next. I’ve seen his website, he put a photo of himself in his pseudo-military gear on the site. There are two Republicans in the running. I’m definitely going to lend them some assistance.

Sorry for the rambling, but that was just my latest personal example of why I’m surprised that anyone trusts the government.


48 posted on 05/11/2008 6:23:19 AM PDT by kenth (Just think, .000001783% of the population is screwing it all up for the rest of us.)
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To: Lusis

I was visiting some people down in Maryland a few years back (2002, maybe), and my rental car broke down out in the sticks of the DelMar Peninsula. I got no help from the rental company. Pissed off, I fried the engine by gunning at top RPM until the engine clanked and stopped running. I left the keys in the ignition, pulled my luggage out and walked about a mile back to a farmhouse I had seen.

The farmer not only let me use his phone, but gave me a little tour of his farm. As some point, a bunch of people showed up to drive him somewhere, so he let me just stay there to wait. Left the front door open for me and everything. Just amazing.

So I called the people I was going to visit (two elderly men) and though they said they would come pick me up, they never did. They were simply confused and could not drive after dark when I called them four hours later asking where they were.

With no other option, I grabbed my luggage, got on the road and began hitchiking, something I had not done since the early Eighties.

I made the rest of the 50 miles through the rural area in two rides. The first half was in the back of a pickup truck, first time I had ridden in the back of one in years.

He left me off in a small town that was having some kind of small town festival and cookout...a marching band and all. I had a burger there and rested for an hour or so, then got back on the road and was immediately picked up by a black guy wearing a Redskins hat. Being a former Redskins fan myself, we had plenty to talk about. The guy was out of a job and had his family living with his brother, and he ended up going ten miles out of his way to deliver me to the doorstop of my destination.

Before I left to go back to the airport, I figured it was going to cost me a lot of money to hire a taxi or limo to take me to the Baltimore airport, I really enjoyed talking to this guy, so called him I told him if he was interested in making some money, I would treat him to lunch and pay him $100 cash for a ride the following Sunday (since he had mentioned he was on hard times).

He readily agreed, he had enjoyed the conversations as well, and he arrived on time when it came time to leave.

When I got home, a month or two later I wrote him a heartfelt thank you letter which bounced back “Addressee Unknown”. The letter I wrote to the farmer to thank him also bounced back. Very odd.

But it was a restorative experience in the goodness of human nature. The only thing that could have ruined it for me was some government agency prosecuting the poor guy for running an illegal taxi service.


49 posted on 05/11/2008 6:39:31 AM PDT by rlmorel (Clinging bitterly to Guns and God in Massachusetts...:)
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To: rlmorel

angels

...and you were unaware


50 posted on 05/11/2008 6:48:11 AM PDT by woollyone (entropy extirpates evolution and conservation confirms the Creator blessed forever.)
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