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1 posted on 05/10/2008 10:08:41 PM PDT by cdchik123
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“If he were to change the party platform,” to account for exceptions such as rape, incest or risk to the mother’s life, “I think that would be...”

Actually pretty smart since that’s about where the nation is at mentally.


2 posted on 05/10/2008 10:11:20 PM PDT by Grunthor (McCain voters believe that it's possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.)
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McCain truly goes against the Republican platform on so many issues that it’s not funny. Socialism is coming our way until socialism is here to stay!


3 posted on 05/10/2008 10:13:49 PM PDT by johnthebaptistmoore (Vote for conservatives AT ALL POLITICAL LEVELS! Encourage all others to do the same on November 4!)
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"I think he would be aborting his own campaign because that is such a critical issue to so many Republican voters and the Republican brand is already in trouble."

Already in trouble?

McAmnesty throws rotten tomatoes at Republicans on an almost daily basis. Why is he worried about "trouble" now? Could it be that he is out of cash, and is trying to fool us into donating some to him?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHrrkFJCqbM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qm457Tc-Fi0&watch_response

4 posted on 05/10/2008 10:16:01 PM PDT by Prole (Pray for the families of Chris and Channon.)
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his repeated commitment to change the GOP's platform on abortion.

"... ummmmmmm... well... errrrr... I... that is... OBAMA!OBAMA!OBAMAOBAMAOBAMAOBAMAOBAMA!!!" < /Team Juan shill>

5 posted on 05/10/2008 10:26:34 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (If McCain really CAN "win without conservatives," then why do you care if I vote for him or not?)
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To: cdchik123; wagglebee; Mr. Silverback

Considering the rate Liberals kill their offspring vs. the rate Conservatives kill their offspring, which is the best long-term strategy here, John?

Death by shredding, Partial-Birth Abortion cures Liberalism, at least for the infant...


7 posted on 05/10/2008 10:32:36 PM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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To: cdchik123
So much for the McCainiacs saying he is solidly Pro-Life.

Apparently John McCain believes a little bit of murder is OK, just so long as he can by some votes with it!
9 posted on 05/10/2008 10:37:45 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (GOP: If you reward bad behavior all you get is more bad behavior.)
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Why does it take almost every GOP nominee since ‘73 so long to figure out that the GOP wins when it’s socially and fiscally CONSERVATIVE??

Ford LOST
Reagan WON twice
Bush I WON once (& lost when he raised taxes & let Barbara bare her soul on abortion)
Dole LOST (the big tent guy)
Bush II WON twice (even though he waffled on the fiscal side).

The GOP platform is the ONLY thing in the party worth saving.


11 posted on 05/10/2008 10:43:10 PM PDT by Mach9 (.)
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"If he were to change the party platform," to account for exceptions such as rape, incest or risk to the mother's life, "I think that would be political suicide,"

I don't think that's necessarily true. I think that many pro-life voters would be willing to allow abortion in those situations if that's what it takes to have unrestricted abortion on demand re-criminalized. Outlawing abortion on demand with those exceptions would be a major step forward, and the exceptions could be dealt with later on.

Personally I would allow an exception for the life of the mother, but I can't accept legalizing the killing of an unborn baby who was conceived by rape or incest. The baby is totally innocent of any wrongdoing and doesn't deserve to be killed for the criminal act of his or her father.

Given the long waiting list for adoptive babies, there is no valid reason to kill any unborn baby except in those very rare cases where the mother's life is at serious risk if the baby is carried to term. If the mother doesn't want him or her for any or no reason after giving birth there are many couples who do.

There are many good reasons why I am very reluctant to vote for McCain. But if his position on abortion is to allow those three exceptions to the re-criminalizing of abortion, that alone wouldn't keep me from voting for him considering that both of his potential adversaries are committed proponents of totally unrestricted abortion on demand.

15 posted on 05/10/2008 10:56:01 PM PDT by epow ("A political career brings out the basest qualities in human nature," Lord Bryce)
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Since when did abortion rights become the leading issue for the conservative movement? In an age where massive deficits are leading this country to financial ruin, and when our government is sanctioning massive intrusions, socialistic and otherwise, into the rights of America’s citizens, I think it is irresponsible to say that the one issue that is going to determine who we support is abortion rights.


22 posted on 05/10/2008 11:31:52 PM PDT by onguard
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Whether he flips,flops,or you don’t like his hair:

The options are Hussein or McCain.


33 posted on 05/10/2008 11:58:42 PM PDT by NoLibZone (The Huge Demonstrations by Illegals in ‘06 prove they have more of the ‘Spirit of 76’ then we do)
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To: cdchik123; All
Yes, I can see where conservatives are coming from with respect to McCain's wanting to soften the Republican platform's no abortion stance.

However...

Quarreling about the Republican platform and abortion is pure politics, in my opinion. This is because the platform isn't law and can't stop abortions, even when Republicans controlled both the Oval Office and Congress; this is not to say that it hasn't helped to stop some federal abortion funding.

But given that I don't see an abortion amendment in the pipeline, McCain's pro-life stance evidenced by his web page is at least a step in the right direction from a constitutional perspective to help reduce abortions, in my opinion.

McCain's pro-life stance on abortion
What am I overlooking?
34 posted on 05/11/2008 12:25:07 AM PDT by Amendment10
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To: wagglebee

Life ping


36 posted on 05/11/2008 1:27:57 AM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just Socialism in a business suit.)
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To: cdchik123

Well the National Republican party has no support from me after the way they’ve treated conservatives in the party for the last decade and a half.
Until the party rids itself of RINO turds they will lose and deservedly so.


41 posted on 05/11/2008 4:15:17 AM PDT by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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McCrazy has been lying for many years on many topics, and this should be no surprise.

We’re seeing right now that his claims to have “heard the American people” on comprehensive immigration reform was a typical McCrazy whopper, because he’s out there RIGHT NOW talking up comprehensive immigration reform all over again.


43 posted on 05/11/2008 4:30:26 AM PDT by angkor
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More inclusive GOP. How very consistent. All God’s children, eh?


46 posted on 05/11/2008 4:47:08 AM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast
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BS. More Disinformation from the Obama media.

If this were true why did they pick as the head of the GOP Platform Committee for the Convention a solidly Pro Life Congressman?

47 posted on 05/11/2008 4:48:10 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (http://www.iraqvetsforcongress.com ---- Get involved, make a difference.)
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Flipper


51 posted on 05/11/2008 5:11:45 AM PDT by XR7
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I’ve posted this before and will do it again - abortion, as it is practised in 95+% of occurences is morally reprehensible and is state-sanctioned murder.

That being said, I don’t think it is upto me to decide what a victim of rape or incest must do when faced with the agonizing choices here. I am in favor of a rape/incest exception and think Tony Perkins is wrong.


52 posted on 05/11/2008 5:13:22 AM PDT by indcons (Please add the sarcasm tag, where appropriate)
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If he does flip on abortion, I will vote for everything but the Presidential slot.

Or, I might write in FRed.

IF he does this, he will lose in a landslide.

No cheers, unfortunately.

Full Disclosure: changing the party platform on abortion is inconsistent with appointing constructionist judges, as the underpinnings of Roe v. Wade are not supported by a strict reading of the Constitution.

54 posted on 05/11/2008 5:18:14 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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Don’t believe it...ABC news...HA!


56 posted on 05/11/2008 5:43:32 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion.....The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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I’m already banging my head on the keyboard.


57 posted on 05/11/2008 5:50:27 AM PDT by hershey
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Another article about the useless and inept GOP and it’s Presidential candidate redefining socialism as “conservatism.” Nothing really new, but I have to admit that it’s entertaining to watch the GOP apologists twist and bend themselves into rhetorical pretzels explaining how this is a good thing for conservatives.

When socialism came to America, it was called “conservatism” and was wrapped in a GOP election banner.


70 posted on 05/11/2008 6:47:40 AM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner!)
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Well, his job is to loose the election, and he is doing a good job at it.


71 posted on 05/11/2008 6:48:17 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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"and the Republican brand is already in trouble." Golly gee! Ya think? And why has he not yet announced a VP? Which won't matter much because the VP has little to nothing to do with the direction a President takes. They only attend luncheons and caucus functions and do little in the name of administration policy. If that were the case, then Chaney has really missed the bus and failed miserably at his job. The Bush Presidency was a disaster and this latest turn to joining the Enviro-wacos was it for me. Bush is so desperate to have some sort of Legacy. He did like his Father, who signed restrictive emissions standards bills and said he wanted to be remembered as "The Environmental President". Well, he is remembered alright, as a tax raising RINO.
73 posted on 05/11/2008 7:02:17 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (Juan McCain....The lesser of Three Liberals.")
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*head on desk*

Exactly. While the spittle flies among the RINOs who would cut the baby down a 99:1 split, the real discussion in the article you posted is not abortion, but ROE.

ROE has been a political liability for the DUmmies. They've shouted that very fact from the rooftops -- "I think we need to talk about this issue differently," Dean said. "The Republicans have painted us as a pro-abortion party...we would like the word 'abortion'’ struck from the political discourse." -- and why? Because the DUmmies own ROE.

The question at hand, therefore, is why McCain is seeking limp-lettuce RINOs at the expanse of the expansive conservative base?

Why give away an issue that is a political liability for the PBA-supporting Obama?

Why signal you're not going to appoint conservative Supreme Court judges that will send ROE back to the states?

Why give the finger to several logical conservative vice-presidential choices?

88 posted on 05/11/2008 8:11:02 AM PDT by StAnDeliver (I know why, but let the spittle fly...)
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More proof that McCain is just a tool to make the distinction between R and D irrelevant.

It is 1917 all over again.


97 posted on 05/11/2008 9:25:44 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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This abortion/platform is such pure BS. Every RINO simply throws a bone to the "no exception pro-life absolutists", they get the vapors, and in exchange McCain gets his amnesty and his other RINO desires.

The abortion platform is a meaningless distraction - every election cycle.

All the "true conservatives" hate McCain and my sit out the election...so why does this matter?

101 posted on 05/11/2008 9:49:33 AM PDT by stravinskyrules (Why is it that whenever I hear a piece of music I don't like, it's always by Villa-Lobos?)
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McCain is an idiot.


109 posted on 05/11/2008 11:36:22 AM PDT by Lady Heron
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McCain would have to go pretty far to lose even the hard-core pro-life vote:

God BLESS America, McCain 2008

114 posted on 05/11/2008 12:30:43 PM PDT by Winged Hussar (http://moveonpleasemoveon.blogspot.com/)
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The general election is nothing more than a DEMOCRAT PRIMARY between two factions of the socialist communist big government Democrat Party. The only difference between the two being the War in Iraq. McCain is for staying a little longer and there by possibly claiming a little honor, while Barry cuts and runs with all the dishonor of traditional Democrats. Otherwise their ain’t no difference. If McCain is smart and really wants to win, he just as well give in to the baby killers. He ain’t getting my vote no matter where he stands on babykilling. I would also recommend to the dislikable crossdressing old geezer, that he pick Joe Loserman as his vice-president, since he is running on a primarily Democrat platform, he could secure some Jewish votes and some Hillary voters that will not vote for Barry. McCain is what he is, and he the Keating Five Guy who tried to sell what little was left of his soul to Puff Daschle and the Democrats only to be grossly underbid for his treachery by the dolt Jimmy Jeffords.


121 posted on 05/11/2008 3:51:41 PM PDT by Biblebelter (If the big blue states got to choose the Republican nominee, I say let them elect him in the fall)
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