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BLOOMBERG OUTRAGE: ASKS JUDGE TO BAN 2ND AMENDMENT REFERENCES!
SAF ^ | May 9, 2008 | Staff

Posted on 05/09/2008 6:06:22 PM PDT by yoe

BELLEVUE, WA – New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg has moved from outrage to atrocity by asking anti-gun activist federal Judge Jack B. Weinstein to ban any reference to the Second Amendment during a civil lawsuit trial beginning May 27 against Georgia gun dealer Jay Wallace, proprietor at Adventure Outdoors.

The New York Sun reported that Bloomberg’s attorneys made the request. Alan Gottlieb, founder of the Second Amendment Foundation, said the move clearly shows that Bloomberg has “total disregard not only for the Second Amendment, but also the First.”

Bloomberg’s attorney on this case, Eric Proshansky, has reportedly argued in a brief that “Any references to the Second Amendment or analogous state constitutional provisions are likewise irrelevant” to the upcoming trial.

“This trial is supposed to be held in a federal court, not a kangaroo court,” Gottlieb stated. “What’s next, a request that Judge Weinstein not allow defense witnesses or rebuttal? Why not just dispense with the trial altogether and lynch Mr. Wallace from the limb of a tree out in Central Park?

“The civil prosecution, and un-civil persecution, of Jay Wallace has never really been about the Second Amendment, until right now,” he observed. “And, thanks to Mr. Proshansky’s brief, this trial is suddenly all about the First Amendment as well.

“We are neither surprised nor shocked at Mayor Bloomberg and the city’s attorney for making this move,” Gottlieb added. “This is the kind of behavior one should expect from a billionaire demagogue who considers himself so far above the law that he launched this vigilante campaign against firearms retailers by stepping outside legal channels in the first place. He sent private agents to several states without legal authority, jeopardizing legitimate on-going criminal investigations in the process.

“Now Bloomberg wants a gag order,” he concluded. “Apparently, in Mikey’s world, a fair trial is one in which a defense attorney is muzzled, and the defendant is already guilty until proven innocent. Bloomberg missed his calling. Instead of being mayor of an American city, he should have been the administrator of a gulag.”

The Second Amendment Foundation (www.saf.org) is the nations oldest and largest tax-exempt education, research, publishing and legal action group focusing on the Constitutional right and heritage to privately own and possess firearms. Founded in 1974, The Foundation has grown to more than 600,000 members and supporters and conducts many programs designed to better inform the public about the consequences of gun control. SAF has previously funded successful firearms-related suits against the cities of Los Angeles; New Haven, CT; and San Francisco on behalf of American gun owners, a lawsuit against the cities suing gun makers and an amicus brief and fund for the Emerson case holding the Second Amendment as an individual right.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: antigun; banglist; bloomberg; ny
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The Major seems to see himself in a different light than that for which he was elected. If he wants to crusade for the anti-gun crowd, then he ought to just quit being Mayor and work for his special interests; he is way out of line here and so would the judge be if he chooses to adhere to Bloomberg’s wishes.
1 posted on 05/09/2008 6:06:22 PM PDT by yoe
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To: yoe

I wonder how Bloomberg would feel if we banned his claim to the First Amendment rights?


2 posted on 05/09/2008 6:08:50 PM PDT by TommyDale (I) (Never forget the Republicans who voted for illegal immigrant amnesty in 2007!)
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To: TommyDale

When the Second Amendment goes, so too does the First. Bloomberg just got in a hurry.


3 posted on 05/09/2008 6:09:42 PM PDT by AD from SpringBay (We deserve the government we allow.)
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To: yoe
Why don't we get rid of the First Amendment for Mayor Bloombergs convenience?
4 posted on 05/09/2008 6:10:42 PM PDT by puppypusher (The world is going to the dogs.)
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To: yoe

You think that is bad, you ought to see mayor gloomberg react to cigars as well as fire arms. He seems to think that he knows what is good enought for us pesants, than we know for ourselves.


5 posted on 05/09/2008 6:11:08 PM PDT by TMSuchman (American by birth, MARINE by act of GOD!!)
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To: AD from SpringBay

A very profound observation. Great catch! ;-)


6 posted on 05/09/2008 6:12:43 PM PDT by doc1019 (Obama: "I Will Raise Taxes.")
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To: neverdem; Joe Brower
That pesky 2nd Amendment again.... How can we establish a Marxist utoopia, with all of those bitter God and guns fanatics in the way?


7 posted on 05/09/2008 6:13:15 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: yoe

Typical fascist: Let’s not discuss the Constitution in a court of law, dammit.


8 posted on 05/09/2008 6:13:27 PM PDT by HoosierHawk
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To: yoe

-—more—subject the same—

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2013558/posts


9 posted on 05/09/2008 6:15:13 PM PDT by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the MSM tells you about firearms or explosives--NRA Benefactor)
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To: yoe

Yes, that darned Constitution, always getting in the way of anti-American Marxists who would destroy our Constitutional Republic all in the name of socialist empowerment and control of the people.

Marx, Lenin and Trotsky would be proud of Bloomberg. A true socialist of the Rodina flavor...


10 posted on 05/09/2008 6:16:21 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: Joe Brower; SLB; Jeff Head; 300winmag; Lurker; glock rocks; ExSoldier; joanie-f; Larry Lucido; ...

Gheeeesh what a bloomin idgit this little store bought polidiot is !


11 posted on 05/09/2008 6:16:29 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: TommyDale
Well, he doesn't use his First Amendment rights properly so I suppose it would be OK to go after him to force a sale of his publishing assets to more worthy owners.

Besides, once he became the head of state he no longer had such rights ~ he's the jackbooted thug against whom those rights are protected, not the other way around.

12 posted on 05/09/2008 6:16:38 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: yoe
Bloomberg, proud member of the new national socialist party.
13 posted on 05/09/2008 6:17:30 PM PDT by meyer (Still conservative, no longer Republican)
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To: Travis McGee

What a radical view....kinda reminds me of the founding fathers....come and getem bloomberg....bring enough gun....


14 posted on 05/09/2008 6:18:27 PM PDT by homeguard ((SPQR))
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To: meyer

Any time I hear anything about him on the news or wherever I can’t help but think of the song “Bring In The Clowns”. ;-)


15 posted on 05/09/2008 6:22:55 PM PDT by doc1019 (Obama: "I Will Raise Taxes.")
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To: yoe

Bloomberg is rumored to be a possible VP candidate for Barak Hussein Obama. They’d make a lovely pair.


16 posted on 05/09/2008 6:24:50 PM PDT by Hamilcar_Barca
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To: TMSuchman
You think that is bad, you ought to see mayor gloomberg react to cigars as well as fire arms.

The Bloominidiot has no real problem with cigars, just cigarettes..........the tobacco of the little people...

17 posted on 05/09/2008 6:26:19 PM PDT by Gabz (Don't tell my mom I'm a lobbyist, she thinks I'm a piano player in a whorehouse)
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To: yoe

I sure hope that when I have his billions, I won’t be such a useless POS.


18 posted on 05/09/2008 6:31:51 PM PDT by Gator113 (Obama is a member of the Far Wright Conspiracy.......)
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To: Gabz

I listen to Cigar Dave on my Sirius satt. radio [channel 144, on Sat. noon to 2 PM] . and a few months ago there was an event in ny mayor gloomberg, threw a hissy fit that there were people smoking cigars, during a private event, and even had some folks arrested for smoking, then he and a few of his fat money, lib. friends went out and did the same thing.


19 posted on 05/09/2008 6:32:53 PM PDT by TMSuchman (American by birth, MARINE by act of GOD!!)
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To: Travis McGee; Squantos; B4Ranch; Pete-R-Bilt; tubebender; Jim Robinson; Brad's Gramma

You can burn the Constitution. It’s just paper.

You will never take from us our God given rights.

Never, and that’s a promise.


20 posted on 05/09/2008 6:33:59 PM PDT by glock rocks ( Woof.)
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To: yoe

Bloomberg is a schmuck, always has been, alway will be.


21 posted on 05/09/2008 6:34:34 PM PDT by Rumplemeyer
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To: yoe

I remember people here defending Bloomberg in ‘04 when I said he was one of the most disgusting authoritarians holding office in America. I wonder where they are now.


22 posted on 05/09/2008 6:34:45 PM PDT by mysterio
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To: Hamilcar_Barca
Bloomberg is rumored to be a possible VP candidate for Barak Hussein Obama. They’d make a lovely pair.

Their campaign motto could be "Shut up & Obey!"

23 posted on 05/09/2008 6:36:08 PM PDT by Repeal 16-17 (Let me know when the Shooting starts.)
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To: yoe

Bloomberg is a Stalinist with a bank account.


24 posted on 05/09/2008 6:38:14 PM PDT by DesScorp
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To: TMSuchman

Does not surprise me in the least.

He has made me embarrassed to say I was born and raised in NYC.


25 posted on 05/09/2008 6:39:25 PM PDT by Gabz (Don't tell my mom I'm a lobbyist, she thinks I'm a piano player in a whorehouse)
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To: Travis McGee

King Bloomboob repealed the Second Amendment in his dreams. Thanks for the ping.


26 posted on 05/09/2008 6:40:07 PM PDT by neverdem (I'm praying for a Divine Intervention.)
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To: glock rocks

Hear! Hear!


27 posted on 05/09/2008 6:41:00 PM PDT by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion)
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To: yoe

I wonder how he would feel if his guards were disarmed...


28 posted on 05/09/2008 6:47:10 PM PDT by KoRn (CTHULHU '08 - I won't settle for a lesser evil any longer!)
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To: Squantos
Gheeeesh what a bloomin idgit this little store bought polidiot is !

What's "little" about him? It's the same billionaire leftist attitude that Elliot Spritzer had. You could tell by the expression on his face that he wished he had the power to disappear all those peons who laughed when he got caught with his hand in the nookie jar.

29 posted on 05/09/2008 6:55:17 PM PDT by 300winmag (Deterrence is an activity, destruction is a profession)
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To: Gator113

In his case it seems that not only is arrogant, most likely due to his money, but he seems to confirm that along with arrogance and having money he confirm that he is also a moron who cares for nothing except himself.

Great leader you elected in New York.

You’re stuck with him just don’t whine about it though he was your choice.


30 posted on 05/09/2008 6:56:19 PM PDT by chiefqc
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To: mysterio
"I remember people here defending Bloomberg in ‘04 when I said he was one of the most disgusting authoritarians holding office in America. I wonder where they are now."

Damn! Bloomberg is indefensible. He's as bad as any leftist there is. When is the next election for NYC mayor anyway? I'll be happy to see him gone, regardless of what he's replaced with.

31 posted on 05/09/2008 6:56:51 PM PDT by KoRn (CTHULHU '08 - I won't settle for a lesser evil any longer!)
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To: glock rocks

That’s a winner!


32 posted on 05/09/2008 7:00:45 PM PDT by B4Ranch
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To: yoe

Actually I have heard some punnets said that Barak is going to pick Bloomberg as his VP candidate.


33 posted on 05/09/2008 7:00:58 PM PDT by mware (mware...killer of threads.)
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To: Gabz
He has made me embarrassed to say I was born and raised in NYC.

No one has any say in where they were born and probably not much more about where they were raised. Bloomboob is not a New Yorker by birth. That's one of NYC's biggest problems - all the idiots and freaks that move here.

34 posted on 05/09/2008 7:03:36 PM PDT by neverdem (I'm praying for a Divine Intervention.)
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To: glock rocks

Amen, FRiend.


35 posted on 05/09/2008 7:30:26 PM PDT by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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To: Gabz

Same here; Gravesend, Brooklyn from birth to a month before my 19th birthday.


36 posted on 05/09/2008 7:42:53 PM PDT by wastedyears (The US Military is what goes Bump in the night.)
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To: yoe
The New York Sun reported that Bloomberg’s attorneys made the request. Alan Gottlieb, founder of the Second Amendment Foundation, said the move clearly shows that Bloomberg has “total disregard not only for the Second Amendment, but also the First.”

I have no opinion about whether a ban would be appropriate, but this claim is disingenuous. There's no free speech inside a courtroom, where parties are routinely banned from mentioning irrelevant topics that might nonetheless sway the jury.

37 posted on 05/09/2008 8:02:47 PM PDT by Arguendo
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To: yoe
This was a PR move by the NSSF and SAF to win in the court of public opinion to make Bloomberg even more of a bad guy than he already is. There is no free speech in a court however, especially in civil litigation cases like this one. The district judge's job (simplistic description) is to apply the law based on statute and precident and leave questions of fact to juries.

I do find it strange that a city is suing a gun shop in Georgia.

I have another question. How do all of these federal gun cases in New York end up in front of LBJ appointee Jack Weinstein who is absolutely no friend of gun owners? There's 25 judges there. Jack's a senior judge, and I'm sure he's not the only one to do civil tort cases.

38 posted on 05/09/2008 8:37:50 PM PDT by Darren McCarty (Just when I thought I was out, they pull me back in - Michael Corleone)
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To: Arguendo
I like the quote from their attorney. He knows what he's doing.

Still, Mr. Renzulli said he did not plan to oppose the city’s request regarding references to the Second Amendment. Mr. Renzulli, who has defended suits against the gun industry in Judge Weinstein’s courtroom before, said that in the past the defense has struck a deal with the plaintiffs on the matter: Lawyers for the gun industry won’t mention the Bill of Rights to the jury, if the plaintiffs don’t mention the National Rifle Association.

“We usually say we’re not talking about the Second Amendment and you’re not talking about the NRA as a huge lobbying group that controls the legislature,” Mr. Renzulli said.

He said he expected a similar agreement to be struck in the Adventure Outdoors case.

39 posted on 05/09/2008 8:41:52 PM PDT by Darren McCarty (Just when I thought I was out, they pull me back in - Michael Corleone)
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To: Darren McCarty
Luckily, I doubt his opinion on the matter will be the final word.

And did Congress ever pass that bill protecting gun manufacturers? Does it cover sellers too?

40 posted on 05/09/2008 8:42:40 PM PDT by Arguendo
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To: Arguendo
There's the statute. It was signed by Bush in 05.

I don't think it applies here with the straw purchase claim. This protects against misuse and misconduct by third parties. I need to check up if any precident was set by this.

41 posted on 05/09/2008 9:03:08 PM PDT by Darren McCarty (Just when I thought I was out, they pull me back in - Michael Corleone)
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To: glock rocks
You can burn the Constitution. It’s just paper.

How DARE you!

That piece of pulped tree is over 200 years old, so burning it would release sequestered CO^2, contributing to Global Warming, thus destroying the world!

Can't we settle for just a simple shredding followed by composting?

42 posted on 05/09/2008 10:17:48 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (The Great Obamanation of Desolation, attempting to sit in the Oval Office, where he ought not..)
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To: ApplegateRanch

Bloomberg is a Liberal and as such, is an elitist who is opposed to freedoms for the masses.


43 posted on 05/10/2008 1:08:59 AM PDT by OldArmy52 (Vote Dem: vote the Clinton/Obama/McCain ticket)
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To: Gabz
"He has made me embarrassed to say I was born and raised in NYC."

David Dinkins didn't do that?

44 posted on 05/10/2008 6:33:00 AM PDT by Batrachian
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To: ApplegateRanch

Isn’t it written on hemp?


45 posted on 05/10/2008 6:44:29 AM PDT by patton (cuiquam in sua arte credendum)
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To: harpseal; TexasCowboy; nunya bidness; AAABEST; Travis McGee; Squantos; Shooter 2.5; wku man; SLB; ..
Once again we see Bloomberg's contempt and arrogance, relying on his money and influence to let him have his way. One dangerous little tin Hitler.

Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!

46 posted on 05/10/2008 6:57:36 AM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: Arguendo
I have no opinion about whether a ban would be appropriate, but this claim is disingenuous. There's no free speech inside a courtroom, where parties are routinely banned from mentioning irrelevant topics that might nonetheless sway the jury.

In the Nordyke v. King case, the plaintiff's attorney didn't mention the Second Amendment even though he wanted to, because California has no right to arms provision and the case was in state court. But the attorney for the county which banned gun shows mentioned it, and threw the door wide open for right-to-arms arguments in the briefs.

47 posted on 05/10/2008 7:12:19 AM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: yoe

I hope this gets wide press. It beautifully illustrates the fascist tyrant that lives just under the surface of (all) liberals.


48 posted on 05/10/2008 7:37:12 AM PDT by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must.)
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To: yoe

The problem with this situation is in the eventual outcome. Weinstein will probably allow this and Bloomberg will win. The defendent will then appeal and after the Heller decision is rendered get the case remanded to the lower court for re-trial.

All of a sudden we’re talking big money here and only Bloomberg can afford this sort of litigation. I imagine this has been the plan all along.


49 posted on 05/10/2008 7:39:14 AM PDT by oldfart (The most dangerous man is the one who has nothing left to lose.)
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To: Joe Brower

Too bad we can’t have Patrick Henry defend Wallace, with Washington, Madison and George Mason seated at the defense table.


50 posted on 05/10/2008 7:39:42 AM PDT by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must.)
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