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Poll shows Clinton with big [43 point] lead in West Virginia
CNN ^ | May 9, 2008 | Alexander Mooney

Posted on 05/09/2008 2:25:06 PM PDT by Zakeet

Even as she faces pressure from some to call her White House bid quits, Hillary Clinton holds a commanding lead in West Virginia, according to a new poll released Friday.

Clinton has a 43-point advantage over Obama, 66 percent to 23 percent, according to a new survey from the American Research Group.

(Excerpt) Read more at politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: West Virginia
KEYWORDS: 2008election; clinton; democrat; hillary; wv2008
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Operation Chaos is working especially well in West Virginia

1 posted on 05/09/2008 2:25:06 PM PDT by Zakeet
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To: Zakeet
YOU GO GIRL!!
2 posted on 05/09/2008 2:25:40 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat (Just say NObama!)
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To: Zakeet

Rush cracked me up today, he likened the Klintonstas to those annoying as hell roaches under your sink. No matter what you do to get rid of them, they simply refuse to go away!


3 posted on 05/09/2008 2:27:41 PM PDT by infantrywhooah
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To: Zakeet

Operation Chaos rolls on, America! Liberals in the media like Chris Matthews are jealous of it and can’t stop it, so they lie about it.

Chaos! Bill Clinton rips an Obama questioner who dared criticize Hillary for doing nothing on health care. But wait! Not long ago, Bill said Hillary had nothing to do with health care. An inconsistent Clinton? It can’t be.

Chaos! Sharpton tells Hillary it’s over. The Breck Girl, hoping to be someone’s AG, weighs in. Obama whines (Can you take four years of that?) and Bill Clinton nails him for moving the goalposts. Barack said Indiana would be the tiebreaker before the primaries. Now he says it was North Carolina.

Hamas endorsed Obama; his campaign manager welcomed it. But McCain mentioned it, and it’s an “attack.” This is how messiahs act.

Pearl of Wisdom: “CNN ran a story: North Korean kids are taught to hate the USA. So? What’s unique about that? That’s happening right here in the United States!”

God’s creation is so complex, it’s human vanity to think we can influence it much less destroy it. Rush illustrates his point with astounding photos of an erupting volcano, the lack of cooling in Antarctica and more.

From Londoners overtaxed for a climate that never seem to improve, to Greenland seeking independence, the hoaxers are in retreat.

Pearl of Wisdom: “We’ve been conditioned to hate every big corporate interest — Big Oil, Big Tobacco, Big Retail, Big Drug, Big Pharmaceutical, Big Food, Big Insurance, Big Medicine — and to love government, because it’s genuinely out to help us.”

Rush, and lesser experts, predict the price of oil will drop. Stay out of the way, politicians. The market will correct high prices as people adjust their lives accordingly.

Pearl of Wisdom: “All the money from these big-time tobacco settlements was going to fund education, health care, and anti-smoking campaigns. But politicians see that money and take it to fund other budget items.”


4 posted on 05/09/2008 2:29:28 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (I heard it on the grapevine and saw it in the paper, so it must be true.)
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To: Zakeet

Gee, this is a big surprise. </sarcasm off>


5 posted on 05/09/2008 2:29:50 PM PDT by dirtbiker (I 'm a liberal's worst nightmare:A redneck with a pickup, a library card, and a conceal carry permit)
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To: Zakeet

Looks like Hildabeast has the “bitter” vote wrapped up.


6 posted on 05/09/2008 2:29:51 PM PDT by A message
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To: Zakeet

My business is located in West Virginia, the democrats there absolutely HATE Obama. They’re totally for Hillary. I don’t know if there is a racist component there or what - because they’re big government liberals - they should love Obama’s message.


7 posted on 05/09/2008 2:30:45 PM PDT by alicewonders (I'm a conservative, and I'm hated by the GOP & the Dems - I must be doing something right!)
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To: Zakeet
survey from the American Research Group

It helps to be friends with CNN's polling company's head:


8 posted on 05/09/2008 2:31:39 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: Zakeet
I went to a town in WV to put in an Environmental testing site had a black worker with me, he was advised it would be beneficial to leave before night. KKK Birds state.
9 posted on 05/09/2008 2:31:39 PM PDT by boomop1
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To: Zakeet
1. It's ARG

2. She could win 100% - 0% and it wouldn't make a difference. The bucket of water was thrown on the witch by the good people of North Carolina.

3. It's over.

10 posted on 05/09/2008 2:31:48 PM PDT by freedomwarrior998
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To: Zakeet

11 posted on 05/09/2008 2:33:29 PM PDT by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: Recovering_Democrat
Why on earth are you cheering for Hitlery? Especially considering that it's over. Obama is the nominee. The media has finally come to realize what should have been realized after Wisconsin. The math is impossible for her, no matter what you or Rush would like to happen.

Let's get to the real task, supporting McCain and defeating Obama in November.

12 posted on 05/09/2008 2:33:48 PM PDT by freedomwarrior998
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To: Zakeet

13 posted on 05/09/2008 2:33:54 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (Vote for McCain but trust in the Lord)
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To: Zakeet

Another goofy Hillary pic.


14 posted on 05/09/2008 2:35:21 PM PDT by Fido969 ("The hardest thing in the world to understand is income tax." - Albert Einstein)
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To: Zakeet
If she wins by 14 or more points then the Rats are idiots for anointing Obama King before Queen Hillary.
15 posted on 05/09/2008 2:35:26 PM PDT by tobyhill (The media lies so much the truth is the exception)
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To: Zakeet

When was the last time a Republican carried West Virginia in the general election? Ohio, PA, and WV and McCain could be a shoo-in.


16 posted on 05/09/2008 2:35:41 PM PDT by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: Zakeet

obviously bitter WV racists


17 posted on 05/09/2008 2:37:18 PM PDT by Retired Greyhound
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To: Zakeet

Of course she does. They even keep electing an ex KKK member (Byrd).

Nope! No racism in West Virginia. (sarc.)


18 posted on 05/09/2008 2:37:40 PM PDT by diverteach (http://foolishpleasurestudio.com/eyewool/slap_hillary.html)
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To: Zakeet

It’s those “typical white” folks in WV. doncha know.
My husband’s family is West Virginian. So I know a little about those folks up in the hollows and hills.


19 posted on 05/09/2008 2:37:56 PM PDT by Babsig (Mark Sanford 2012)
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To: Zakeet

Sounds like she’s got the Byrd vote sewed up......


20 posted on 05/09/2008 2:38:19 PM PDT by deport ( -- Cue Spooky Music --)
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To: freedomwarrior998

She needs a gifted thaumaturge to win honestly!


21 posted on 05/09/2008 2:38:27 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ("Don't touch that thing")
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To: infantrywhooah
Rush cracked me up today, he likened the Klintonstas to those annoying as hell roaches under your sink. No matter what you do to get rid of them, they simply refuse to go away!




22 posted on 05/09/2008 2:38:37 PM PDT by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: freedomwarrior998
The math is impossible for her...

Huh??? There are superdelegates who can do anything they want. Either Obama or Hitlery can win with enough stupidelegates...

She has to change them by convincing them Obama can't win. (She won't, but she can keep trying.)

23 posted on 05/09/2008 2:38:38 PM PDT by Onelifetogive (Simple-minded conservative...)
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To: freedomwarrior998
The math is impossible for her...

Huh??? There are superdelegates who can do anything they want. Either Obama or Hitlery can win with enough stupidelegates...

She has to change them by convincing them Obama can't win. (She won't, but she can keep trying.)

24 posted on 05/09/2008 2:38:40 PM PDT by Onelifetogive (Simple-minded conservative...)
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To: Zakeet

25 posted on 05/09/2008 2:38:50 PM PDT by jimbo123
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To: tobyhill
Where do you come up with that brilliant analysis? It was a foregone conclusion that Obama was going to lose West Virginia and Kentucky, and lose them by HUGE margins.

Rasmussen is stopping the daily Obama vs Hillary Tracking Poll for a reason.

The primary is over. Obama is the nominee no matter how much you might not like it.

We should be celebrating. HE CAN'T BEAT MCCAIN! Hitlery would have.

The rats just made November a whole lot easier for us. We need to focus on beating Obama in November. The Hitlery train is derailed.

North Carolina put the nail in her coffin.

26 posted on 05/09/2008 2:38:50 PM PDT by freedomwarrior998
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To: Zakeet

She has a 43 point lead? She should drop out. /sarc


27 posted on 05/09/2008 2:40:12 PM PDT by philled (Rest in Peace, Sgt Merlin German. www.merlinsmiracles.com)
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To: Onelifetogive
Hitlery might dream that the Superdelegates are going to hand the election to Hitlery, but it won't happen.

The tone of the entire campaign changed after Tuesday. Everyone is resigned to the fact that Obama is the nominee.

The math is this. Obama needs less than 80 of the uncommitted supers to go his way to clinch the nomination. Hitlery needs over well over 200 of them.

Obama picked up 8 today. Hitlery got 1.

It's over.

28 posted on 05/09/2008 2:41:18 PM PDT by freedomwarrior998
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To: freedomwarrior998
I know she won't win but I can't stand to see Operation Chaos come to such a dramatic end. The Rats need to be questioning their decision from now till election time and it will eat through their brains if it does.
29 posted on 05/09/2008 2:42:27 PM PDT by tobyhill (The media lies so much the truth is the exception)
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To: freedomwarrior998
It's over.

Without a June suprise...

30 posted on 05/09/2008 2:44:00 PM PDT by Onelifetogive (Simple-minded conservative...)
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To: Zakeet

I want to know what Senator Robert Byrd is going to do after Barack Obama probably becomes the Democratic nominee for POTUS? Also, Senator Byrd has been against all amnesty for illegal immigration legislation, and all of the remaining major candidates for POTUS are pro-amnesty for illegal immigrants. At least Byrd votes correctly when it comes to all illegal immigration legislation.


31 posted on 05/09/2008 2:44:28 PM PDT by johnthebaptistmoore (Vote for conservatives AT ALL POLITICAL LEVELS! Encourage all others to do the same on November 4!)
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To: freedomwarrior998
The math is impossible for her, no matter what you or Rush would like to happen.

That is the point behind operation chaos. The Hildebeast can't win. There is no downside to cheering her on.

Are you a secret democrat sympathizer?

32 posted on 05/09/2008 2:45:12 PM PDT by LeGrande
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To: Zakeet

All those racist racist democrats... (I am NOT joking.)


33 posted on 05/09/2008 2:47:51 PM PDT by GulfBreeze (McCain is our nominee. No one else.)
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To: Zakeet

Well, we all know there isn’t any racism in West Virginia, home of Senator Robert ‘Grand Wizard’ Byrd...


34 posted on 05/09/2008 2:49:46 PM PDT by TommyDale (I) (Never forget the Republicans who voted for illegal immigrant amnesty in 2007!)
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To: LeGrande
That is the point behind operation chaos. The Hildebeast can't win. There is no downside to cheering her on.

That's what Rush claimed. But then on his program he continually trashed McCain and did everything in his power to ensure that the filthy beast (who CAN beat McCain) was elected.

He failed. I am glad that people were not stupid enough to buy his bill of goods. I used to be a loyal Rush fan. After he almost turned the tide and got the filthy witch elected, I'm never listening to him again.

He wants McCain defeated more than anything, he knows Obama can't beat McCain, so he wanted Hitlery to be the nominee.

Never-mind that our nation could have never survived a hitlery Presidency. You should be thankful that Rush failed.

Are you a secret democrat sympathizer?

Yeah, that's it.

35 posted on 05/09/2008 2:55:50 PM PDT by freedomwarrior998
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To: freedomwarrior998
The reality of the math is this. Let's say Hillary wins West Virginia big time, by a 3-1 blowout. Let's say she wins Kentucky and Puerto Rico by a 2-1 blowout where she is currently favored to win by 10-15 points. Let's even go out on a limb and say she eeks out narrow 52-48 victories in Oregon, Montana and South Dakota where she is currently down.

What will all this get her?

She'll still be about 100 pledged delegated behind Obama. Let's say she pulls a rabbit out of the hat and gets both the delegations of Florida and Michigan included with a "slap on the wrist" type penalty such as exclusion of their superdelgates. She is still 35 delegates behind Obama despite a half-million or so vote lead among all primary participants (primaries + caucus goers).

Is that going to be enough to wrest the nomination from Obama? Before last Tuesday, I would have given her a slim chance. But not now. Still, I hope she keeps trying.

Anyone who wants my analytical spreadsheet (both normal scenario and big Hillary momentum scenario) is welcome to freepmail me with a valid e-mail address.

36 posted on 05/09/2008 2:58:47 PM PDT by Vigilanteman ((Are there any men left in Washington? Or are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud))
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To: freedomwarrior998

I think you are completely missing the point. The whole idea is not to necessarily get Hillary as the Dem nominee, but to keep the fight going as long as possible, giving whoever the Dem candidate is (Obama) less time to patch up relations and to lick wounds.

Of course, all of that is pointless for folks like myself who cannot vote for LaRaza-Juan McCain.


37 posted on 05/09/2008 3:01:50 PM PDT by TheBattman (LORD God, please give us a Christian Patriot with a backbone for President in 08, Amen.)
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To: Sooth2222
WV in my opinion harbors more racial hatred and is more segregated than any other state in the union.

That said,Obama can carry the state if he can stay away from second admendment issues. After all, it will boil down to gasoline prices and the economy come November.

38 posted on 05/09/2008 3:02:19 PM PDT by buckalfa
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To: diverteach
Of course she does. They even keep electing an ex KKK member (Byrd).

Spoken as a true Democrat: everyone in WV is an inbred white racist, right? Let's continue that logic: everyone in MA is a pro-abortion fanatic; everyone in NC is a black racist; everyone in CA is an environmental whacko; everyone in NY is an anti-gun fanatic, and everyone in AZ in an open-borders supporter.

See how that looks?

39 posted on 05/09/2008 3:05:51 PM PDT by browardchad ("We are all mavericks now." -- Rush Limbaugh)
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To: Vigilanteman

Informative post, thanks.


40 posted on 05/09/2008 3:06:39 PM PDT by 1035rep
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To: Vigilanteman

Her claim will be popular vote. It’s not a meaningless claim.

WVA and Kentucky can net her 270K votes with big wins. Obama’s lead is about 530K with Florida included. Michigan can’t be included because he got 0 votes there as a result of not being on the ballot.

It comes down to Puerto Rico, oddly. Can she net 260K votes there? Oregon, Montana and South Dakota follow and Obama is expected to win them, but not big.

She has to catch up 530K net votes to be able to make a claim. She IS going to get huge wins in WVA and Kentucky. Turnout will matter. Turnout will actually be all important.


41 posted on 05/09/2008 3:06:48 PM PDT by Owen
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To: freedomwarrior998
That's what Rush claimed. But then on his program he continually trashed McCain and did everything in his power to ensure that the filthy beast (who CAN beat McCain) was elected.

You are simply wrong. Rush didn't start operation Chaos until after it became extremely unlikely that the Hildebeast couldn't win and McCain had the nomination sewed up.

Rush and I both intensely dislike McCain and yet we both realize that he is slightly better than the Liar or the Racist. Rush knows that McCain won't fight for the nomination but Hillary will. Rush is doing McCain the biggest favor in the world. In the end most true conservatives will probably curse and pull the lever for McCain. McCains only hope of winning the presidency is if the Dems are apathetic because the conservatives certainly are.

I was joking about you being a democratic sympathizer : )

42 posted on 05/09/2008 3:07:56 PM PDT by LeGrande
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To: buckalfa
After all, it will boil down to gasoline prices and the economy come November.

Things have certainly gone downhill since the Democrats became the majority in congress.  

43 posted on 05/09/2008 3:11:23 PM PDT by 1035rep
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To: TheBattman
Conservatives need to realize that the Supreme Court is the Ultimate Prize this November. McCain is the only Shot we have at getting anything resembling a Conservative Court.

Stevens and Ginsberg are going to retire under the next President.

The only question that remains is do you want McCain to pick their replacements or Obama.

Period.

Vote accordingly.

44 posted on 05/09/2008 3:15:48 PM PDT by freedomwarrior998
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To: freedomwarrior998
Advice for Hillary: If nothing changes, it really IS over for you.

It's time to bring out the material you hoped to never have to use - those photos with (fill in the blank), the forged documents, the paid bimbos with plausible stories.

You know, the stuff you were going to hit McCain with in October. Just change the names on the docs, paste in the new faces on the photos, and roll 'em out.

If you're going out, GO NUCLEAR!

45 posted on 05/09/2008 3:18:25 PM PDT by ZOOKER ( Exploring the fine line between cynicism and outright depression)
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To: Sooth2222
When was the last time a Republican carried West Virginia in the general election?

President Bush carried WV by 13 points in 2004 and by six points in 2000.

46 posted on 05/09/2008 3:24:33 PM PDT by rogue yam
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To: ZOOKER

I’m sure the Clintoons will torch as much of the landscape as possible to hurt O’Bammy.
In 2012 she’ll be 64 yrs old, pumped full of Botox, and reporting for duty.


47 posted on 05/09/2008 3:25:35 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: freedomwarrior998
Conservatives need to realize that the Supreme Court is the Ultimate Prize this November. McCain is the only Shot we have at getting anything resembling a Conservative Court.

Stevens and Ginsberg are going to retire under the next President.

The only question that remains is do you want McCain to pick their replacements or Obama.

What you say is true but the reality is even worse. There have been almost no Federal judges approved at any level since November, 2006. There are loads of vacancies. If Obama gets in there with a 'Rat Senate then the Federal bench will be packed with young leftists that will undermine this country for decades.

48 posted on 05/09/2008 3:32:53 PM PDT by rogue yam
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To: Zakeet

I bless you in the name of the Father, the Son and...


49 posted on 05/09/2008 3:42:08 PM PDT by Marysecretary (.GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL)
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To: Zakeet

I bless you in the name of the Father, the Son and...


50 posted on 05/09/2008 3:42:44 PM PDT by Marysecretary (.GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL)
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