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Train quarantined in Ont. after death reported (260 aboard)
CTV.ca ^ | Fri. May. 9 2008 | CTV News Staff

Posted on 05/09/2008 8:04:35 AM PDT by fanfan

A Via Rail train, carrying more than 260 passengers to Toronto, has been quarantined in Foleyet, Ont. after one person died and several people fell ill.

"Currently there are a few people who are seriously ill on the train and one person is being airlifted right now," OPP Sgt. Laura Nichols told CTV.ca from the North Bay Communications Centre.

The train was quarantined at the train depot in Foleyet, a community near Sudbury, Ont., after officials notified police that someone was feeling ill. More than 260 people were aboard the train when it stopped in Foleyet.

Police believe there are a total of four to five people who are ill on the train, experiencing flu-like symptoms.

"As far as determining what it is, we're not there yet," Nichols said.

Via Rail spokesperson Catherine Kaloutsky told CTV News she can confirm that one person has died, but they are waiting for more details from the scene.

The train had left from Jasper and was bound for Toronto, Nichols said.

CN Rail spokesperson Frank Binder confirmed to CTV.ca that the train has come to a stop in Foleyet.

"Our crews have come to a complete stop at that location and they are dealing with emergency personnel there."

With more to come...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Canada; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cassandracrossing; outbreak; publichealth; quarantine; rail; train
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1 posted on 05/09/2008 8:04:35 AM PDT by fanfan
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To: GMMAC; Clive; exg; kanawa; conniew; backhoe; -YYZ-; Former Proud Canadian; Squawk 8888; ...


2 posted on 05/09/2008 8:06:07 AM PDT by fanfan ("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
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To: fanfan

This doesn’t sound good. Have we raised out threat level yet?


3 posted on 05/09/2008 8:07:20 AM PDT by Eurale
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To: 2ndreconmarine; Fitzcarraldo; Covenantor; Mother Abigail; EBH; Dog Gone; ...

Ping...


4 posted on 05/09/2008 8:08:18 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: fanfan

5 posted on 05/09/2008 8:08:29 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: fanfan

From Jasper. This is newsworthy for now.


6 posted on 05/09/2008 8:09:05 AM PDT by RightWhale (It's still unclear what impact global warming will have on vertical wind shear)
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To: fanfan

Wonder if it was from eating some of that wonderful, “gourmet” train food?


7 posted on 05/09/2008 8:09:09 AM PDT by capt. norm (Never underestimate the power of very stupid people in large groups.)
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To: Cindy

Ping


8 posted on 05/09/2008 8:10:17 AM PDT by fanfan ("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
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To: fanfan

9 posted on 05/09/2008 8:11:15 AM PDT by Squawk 8888 (TSA and DHS are jobs programs for people who are not smart enough to flip burgers)
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To: capt. norm; All

Wonder if it could be bird flu, and where is Jasper. The location could be significant in terms of migratory bird flight patterns. Did the dead person have farm/bird contacts?


10 posted on 05/09/2008 8:12:35 AM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: RightWhale

I’ve never heard of the authorities quarantining a whole train here before.


11 posted on 05/09/2008 8:12:53 AM PDT by fanfan ("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
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To: fanfan
The first place I'd want to be is off that train. Quarantine me by myself, or with just my family.
12 posted on 05/09/2008 8:13:06 AM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: fanfan
"WORLD WAR Z"
"An Oral History Of The Zombie Wars"
--Max Brooks
13 posted on 05/09/2008 8:14:21 AM PDT by devane617
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To: gleeaikin

Ah, that’s right - I had the lasagne.


14 posted on 05/09/2008 8:14:24 AM PDT by null and void (My brain is a sieve, and Aratosthenes is nowhere to be found. ~ Stolen from Darksheare...)
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To: gleeaikin
Jasper, Alberta.

http://www.discoverjasper.com/

15 posted on 05/09/2008 8:14:51 AM PDT by fanfan ("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
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To: fanfan

Many possibilities. Legionaire’s Disease. Bird Flu. more, much more.


16 posted on 05/09/2008 8:16:25 AM PDT by RightWhale (It's still unclear what impact global warming will have on vertical wind shear)
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA
The first place I'd want to be is off that train. Quarantine me by myself, or with just my family.

Remember the beginning of Stephen King's The Stand?

17 posted on 05/09/2008 8:17:27 AM PDT by fanfan ("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
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To: null and void

Back away from the pasta!


18 posted on 05/09/2008 8:18:31 AM PDT by fanfan ("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
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To: gleeaikin

“... and where is Jasper?”

Southeast Texas, home of Byrd dragging.


19 posted on 05/09/2008 8:18:40 AM PDT by Eurale
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To: gleeaikin

Would people show symptoms that quickly from the bird flu?


20 posted on 05/09/2008 8:20:12 AM PDT by alicewonders (I'm a conservative, and I'm hated by the GOP & the Dems - I must be doing something right!)
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To: fanfan

Scary stuff. I’ll be staying tuned on this one.


21 posted on 05/09/2008 8:20:56 AM PDT by NorthOf45
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To: Squawk 8888
As for being near Sudbury, I wouldn't want to have to walk it.

Foleyet 's claim to fame, white moose .


22 posted on 05/09/2008 8:21:31 AM PDT by Snowyman
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To: Smokin' Joe

Thanks Joe,I just put the news on.Prayers for everyone.


23 posted on 05/09/2008 8:22:09 AM PDT by fatima (Pray for our FRriend Jim founder of this forum.)
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To: alicewonders

I’m wondering if the people who are symptomatic may have been travelling together, a large family maybe?


24 posted on 05/09/2008 8:22:46 AM PDT by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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To: All
Updated Fri. May. 9 2008 11:12 AM ET

A Via Rail train, carrying more than 260 passengers to Toronto, has been quarantined in Foleyet, Ont. after one person died and several people fell ill.

“Currently there are a few people who are seriously ill on the train and one person is being airlifted right now,” OPP Sgt. Laura Nichols told CTV.ca from the North Bay Communications Centre.

The train was quarantined at the train depot in Foleyet, a community near Sudbury, Ont., after officials notified police that someone was feeling ill.

Police believe there are a total of four to five people who are ill on the train, experiencing flu-like symptoms.

“As far as determining what it is, we're not there yet,” Nichols said.

Via Rail spokesperson Catherine Kaloutsky told CTV News she can confirm that one person has died, but they are waiting for more details from the scene.

The train had left from Jasper and was bound for Toronto, Nichols said.

CN Rail spokesperson Frank Binder confirmed to CTV.ca that the train has come to a stop in Foleyet.

“Our crews have come to a complete stop at that location and they are dealing with emergency personnel there.”

The Canadian Press reported that only emergency response personnel are being allowed on or off the train, which was carrying 260 passengers and 30 crewmembers.

A CN Rail sleep station has evacuated and local health facilities are on standby.

“The whole place is being overrun with ambulances and police cars, and we've got helicopters,’’ said Deborah DesRochers, chairwoman of the town of 380 about 100 kilometres southwest of Timmins.

“They've got the train quarantined. They're trying to isolate what it is,” she told CP.

Link

25 posted on 05/09/2008 8:22:55 AM PDT by fanfan ("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
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To: fanfan

I didn’t read that one (and, no, I’m not stuck in Iraq) — I’ll check it out. Thanks.


26 posted on 05/09/2008 8:24:35 AM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: fanfan

If the flu-like symptoms include diarrhea I wouln’t rule out ricin.


27 posted on 05/09/2008 8:25:36 AM PDT by Eurale
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To: Eurale

Lovely.


28 posted on 05/09/2008 8:26:53 AM PDT by fanfan ("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
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To: All
The CBC is saying:

Police said as many as 10 people were ill with flu-like symptoms when the train made its regular morning stop in Foleyet.

The illnesses appeared to be contained to two train cars.

Link

29 posted on 05/09/2008 8:31:06 AM PDT by fanfan ("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
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To: fanfan

Airlift. That’s like a germ crop-duster...


30 posted on 05/09/2008 8:31:50 AM PDT by null and void (My brain is a sieve, and Aratosthenes is nowhere to be found. ~ Stolen from Darksheare...)
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To: fanfan

If it was bird flu, it would probably have been contracted by the dead person before getting on the train. So the question might be, are the other sick people traveling together with that person, or did they pick up something on the train?

If it was the latter, then food poisoning seems more likely to me. How long does it take to travel across Canada by train? Three days? Four?


31 posted on 05/09/2008 8:32:49 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: fanfan
Thanks for the links. Depending on what those folks have, the people on the train may be the least of the authorities' worries.
32 posted on 05/09/2008 8:32:53 AM PDT by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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To: fanfan
ZOMBIES!

33 posted on 05/09/2008 8:33:57 AM PDT by Petronski (When there's no more room in hell, the dead will walk the earth, voting for Hillary.)
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To: All
The Globe and Mail is saying the train came from Vancouver.

Link

34 posted on 05/09/2008 8:34:00 AM PDT by fanfan ("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
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To: Cicero

I guess it depends on what the reporters mean by flu-like. Do they mean upper respiratory symptoms, or are the referring to the so-called GI flu, which isn’t an respiratory illness at all.


35 posted on 05/09/2008 8:35:28 AM PDT by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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To: fanfan

I wonder if they had the Chicken or the Fish...


36 posted on 05/09/2008 8:36:50 AM PDT by KoRn (CTHULHU '08 - I won't settle for a lesser evil any longer!)
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To: mewzilla

Good question. Can you come down with bird flu symptoms in a couple of days, the likely travel time from Vancouver to somewhere in Ontario?


37 posted on 05/09/2008 8:39:33 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: fanfan

How long a ride would that be, time-wise?


38 posted on 05/09/2008 8:40:19 AM PDT by browardchad ("We are all mavericks now." -- Rush Limbaugh)
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To: Cicero

I have no idea how long the trip would be.


39 posted on 05/09/2008 8:40:50 AM PDT by fanfan ("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
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To: browardchad

See 39


40 posted on 05/09/2008 8:41:40 AM PDT by fanfan ("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
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To: RightWhale

I have taken that train from Toronto to Vancouver (and back). It stops right outside a very good hamburger stand in Winnipeg and Jasper.


41 posted on 05/09/2008 8:42:25 AM PDT by Perdogg (Four years of Carter gave us 29 years of Iran; What will Hilabama give us?)
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To: fanfan

CTV.ca Videos

http://watch.ctv.ca/news/latest/train-death/#clip51913

Dr. Michael Gardam, infectious diseases expert, says they have no information that the death is actually connected with the illnesses of the other persons.


42 posted on 05/09/2008 8:42:40 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: RightWhale
Many possibilities. Legionaire’s Disease. Bird Flu. more, much more.

Wouldn't that take longer to kill someone than the train ride would have lasted?

Seems like if it was terrorists they would have done gas or bio to the entire train not just a couple of cars.

43 posted on 05/09/2008 8:42:57 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys: Can't drive, can't fly, can't ski, can't skipper a boat; but they know what's best for us)
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To: fanfan

Two cars only? How many cars were there total? If it was food poisoning it would be more widespread than 2 cars.


44 posted on 05/09/2008 8:43:17 AM PDT by acoulterfan
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To: fanfan

The time frame rules out avian flu, it seems to me.

Its 3-4 days from B.C. to Jasper. . .

Unless, the person who died was infectious when they got on, and then infected the others...still, not enough time . . .

More likely poison or food contamination of some sort.


45 posted on 05/09/2008 8:43:35 AM PDT by BabaOreally
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To: Smokin' Joe; fanfan

Thanks for the ping Joe. FF ~ keep us posted on the latest please.


46 posted on 05/09/2008 8:43:40 AM PDT by Oorang (Tyranny thrives best where government need not fear the wrath of an armed people - Alex Kozinski)
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To: browardchad

according to viaRailCanada a trip from Vancouver to Foleyet takes 2 days 11 hours.

VirginiaMom


47 posted on 05/09/2008 8:43:59 AM PDT by VirginiaMom (lost in the wilderness)
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To: Cicero
From the WHO.....

Avian influenza (" bird flu") - Fact sheet

As for bird flu, looks like incubation takes a while, but the decline can be rapid.

48 posted on 05/09/2008 8:44:50 AM PDT by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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To: fanfan

My family once took the train from New York City to Seattle, back in the 60s. It took us four days, with a change of trains in Chicago.

That was quite a while ago, but I figure the time across Canada is probably similar.


49 posted on 05/09/2008 8:46:15 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: mewzilla

If this is really a GI bug, suppose it could something as mundane as a norovirus.


50 posted on 05/09/2008 8:46:28 AM PDT by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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