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The Ultimate Conservative Nightmare? (McCain "stupid enough" to pick Hillary as VP, says Coulter)
Townhall.com ^ | 05/09/2008 | Mike Gallagher

Posted on 05/09/2008 2:58:08 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

I consider it a banner day when I can render my friend Ann Coulter speechless.

The wonderful conservative warrior was a guest on my radio show this week (Ann is one of the best guests in the business) and I hit her with something so wild, so preposterous, and so outrageous, that she just, well, stayed silent for a few seconds.

After a long pause, she laughed and said, “You know, he’s just stupid enough that he might do it!”

The “he” in question is Sen. John McCain. Ms. Coulter has made no secret of her total and utter disdain for the GOP presidential candidate. To many diehard conservatives, Sen. McCain is that horror of horrors, a Republican with enough moderate tendencies as to attract people to him who might not ordinarily vote for a Republican.

So I thought I’d have some fun by sharing with her a prediction that one of my radio callers made earlier that day.

When the caller, Tim from Atlanta, first suggested it to me, I had virtually the same reaction as Ann. I was stunned.

“Mike”, he started. “Something came to me last night while I was watching the TV coverage of the primaries in Indiana and North Carolina. I was wondering just who John McCain might pick as a running mate and it hit me like a ton of bricks: I predict that after Hillary is finally forced out of the race, McCain will shock the world and pick Hillary Clinton as his vice-presidential candidate!”

Think about that for a minute. “McCain/Clinton 2008.”

After I pulled myself off the floor and sat back down in my chair, I asked Tim from Atlanta how that idea could possibly have any merit.

“It’s simple”, he replied. “The media keeps beating the drum about bi-partisan cooperation in Washington in order to get things done. People continue to harp about being tired of all this bickering and politicking and fighting. McCain is well known for wanting to reach across the aisle and work with Democrats – who could forget McCain/Feingold – and it’s pretty much understood that Madame Hillary would do just about anything to get back to the White House,” he said. “A McCain/Clinton ticket would be virtually unstoppable!”

The only thing stopping right now is the beating of my heart at the prospect of such a nightmare.

But his prediction demonstrates just how loopy this entire campaign cycle has become. It also reinforces the heartburn and headaches that many of us Republicans are experiencing as we get nearer and nearer to the general election.

Writer David Frum believes that John McCain is possibly the perfect GOP candidate in an ever-changing country. Frum, a daily contributor to National Review Online and best-selling author, thinks it’s a huge mistake for us to pine for the days of Ronald Reagan-era conservatism. He argues that a successful Republican presidential candidate will be the sort of person who demonstrates unshakable integrity, a willingness to shake off some of the previous conservative orthodoxies, and can challenge and even disagree with some of the cultural philosophies that helped define the Reagan Revolution. Frum makes the case that a successful GOP candidate will be the one who returns to fiscal conservatism, reigning in out-of-control spending, even if he or she wanders off the reservation over an issue like illegal immigration.

That view, of course, is heresy to a rock-ribbed conservative like Ann Coulter. In fact, when I asked her about Frum’s arguments, she chortled and admonished me to stop asking her about people like David Frum “who aren’t real conservatives.”

I greatly admire the torchbearers of conservatism like Ann and Rush Limbaugh and others who believe that the real peril is in Republicans even considering moving one inch to the center.

But David Frum is a smart guy, too. He makes a compelling case that if the GOP has any chance of retaining power in D.C., the party should realize that this isn’t our father’s Republican Party anymore. Instead of hearing all the supposed stories of Republican voters willing to support Barack Obama (a bizarre concept that I still can’t understand), why not produce a GOP candidate that Independents and even Democrats can support?

He seems to think McCain might be that guy.

Whichever point of view you endorse, it seems pretty evident that as Sen. McCain prepares to gear up for a full scale battle during the next six months, the Republican Party is at a crossroads.

Let’s hope Sen. McCain doesn’t choose to cross the road hand-in-hand with Sen. Clinton.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008veep; anncoulter; elections; hillary; hillaryclinton; mccain; yeshesstupidenough
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1 posted on 05/09/2008 2:58:08 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
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To: Liz; Calpernia; calcowgirl; indylindy; AuntB; Tennessee Nana; pissant; SoConPubbie; ElkGroveDan; ..

Ping!


2 posted on 05/09/2008 2:59:13 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (If McCain really CAN "win without conservatives," then why do you care if I vote for him or not?)
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To: Grunthor; E. Cartman

Ping!


3 posted on 05/09/2008 3:00:38 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (If McCain really CAN "win without conservatives," then why do you care if I vote for him or not?)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Why not Ann?

After all, your stupid enough to campaign for her.


4 posted on 05/09/2008 3:00:53 AM PDT by HEY4QDEMS
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To: HEY4QDEMS

I hope Ann gets better soon.


5 posted on 05/09/2008 3:03:58 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (Vote for McCain but trust in the Lord)
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To: jellybean

Ann Coulter PING! ;)


6 posted on 05/09/2008 3:08:48 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (If McCain really CAN "win without conservatives," then why do you care if I vote for him or not?)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
Frum makes the case that a successful GOP candidate will be the one who returns to fiscal conservatism, reigning in out-of-control spending, even if he or she wanders off the reservation over an issue like illegal immigration.
You can't reign in out-of-control spending while allowing uncontrolled immigration (I didn't use the word "illegal" because it might not BE illegal anymore, after next Jan 20).

The continued influx of needy immigrants makes out-of-control spending impossible to reign in.

7 posted on 05/09/2008 3:13:41 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Congressional Booty Calls ;)

8 posted on 05/09/2008 3:13:47 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (If McCain really CAN "win without conservatives," then why do you care if I vote for him or not?)
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To: HEY4QDEMS

I guess Ann’s sarcasm is too far above your low IQ.


9 posted on 05/09/2008 3:18:31 AM PDT by bmwcyle (I always rely on God and Guns in that order)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

McCain/Clinton = pure fantasy.

Not gonna happen.

And Annie, girl, you should be all for it. After all, you’re for Hillary for Prez, so why not VP?


10 posted on 05/09/2008 3:19:49 AM PDT by txrangerette (Just say "no" to the Obama Cult and the Clinton Machine!!)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
Great socialists dream alike....


11 posted on 05/09/2008 3:22:04 AM PDT by TADSLOS (The GOP death march to the gravesite is underway.)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
If McCain even hints at a McCain/Clinton ticket, to me it will be proof positive that we do not have a two-party system, but we have a one-party system working, and I will start looking for evidence that the heads of both parties have been or soon will be actually conducting joint meetings on the future (if one can call it a “future”) of the nation.

I do believe that the United States is now a one-party socialist democracy (mob rule). We need some real (genuinely Constitutional/Conservative third-party movement so that we can re-establish a two-party system.

12 posted on 05/09/2008 3:23:51 AM PDT by John Leland 1789
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
Hindenburg and Hitlery...


13 posted on 05/09/2008 3:24:32 AM PDT by johnny7
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
Let’s hope Sen. McCain doesn’t choose to cross the road hand-in-hand with Sen. Clinton.

Oh, why not? It would demonstrate the ultimate in bi-partisan cooperation, hands across the aisle, love thy liberal thinking.

Actually, Ms Coulter is correct. He would be stupid enough to do it.

14 posted on 05/09/2008 3:27:08 AM PDT by MaggieCarta (Disobedience is in our DNA. - Charlton Heston)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

I’ve had the same fear.


15 posted on 05/09/2008 3:27:10 AM PDT by SueRae
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To: TADSLOS
If not Hillary... then we all know who his second most likely 'Rat "friend" would be, insofar as potential VP running mates are concerned:

"Look, John: since I was willing to consider you as my VP back in '04, then it's only fair that you consider me for..." ;)

16 posted on 05/09/2008 3:27:57 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (If McCain really CAN "win without conservatives," then why do you care if I vote for him or not?)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

More BS from AC.


17 posted on 05/09/2008 3:30:15 AM PDT by Perdogg (Four years of Carter gave us 29 years of Iran; What will Hilabama give us?)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
Let’s hope Sen. McCain doesn’t choose to cross the road hand-in-hand with Sen. Clinton.

That would be enough to ensure an Obama victory.

18 posted on 05/09/2008 3:30:19 AM PDT by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Gallagher is not the sharpest knife in the drawer


19 posted on 05/09/2008 3:32:53 AM PDT by don-o (My son, Ben, reports to Parris Island on June 30.)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

If he does, he’ll never see 73! Fort Marcey Park.


20 posted on 05/09/2008 3:33:30 AM PDT by noname07718 (The Senate is based on consensus. “Consensus is the absence of leadership” - Lady M.Thatcher)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
The entire idea of HRC as McCain's VP borders on hysteria.
McCain will not declare defeat in Iraq, and he will stand behind our armed forces no matter what, something HRC has repeatedly said she would not do.

People who seek to diminish McCain because of one grievance or another forget the totality of a BHO nightmare presidency. Barry is seeking to “change” everything about our country, including disarming it. Hamas has endorsed him for good reason. With Barry as POTUS, they can just walk in...here and in Israel.

21 posted on 05/09/2008 3:35:06 AM PDT by ishabibble (ALL-AMERICAN INFIDEL)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

I love Ann, but this? Really, really dumb.


22 posted on 05/09/2008 3:39:49 AM PDT by lexusppd
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

They look like two people who just discovered they both drive a hybrid.


23 posted on 05/09/2008 3:41:09 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Hey—she’d bring in those dem votes that all of the McCainiacs seem to embrace. And, they could beat Obama!

Just win, baby!

/s


24 posted on 05/09/2008 3:41:50 AM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: calcowgirl
LOL!! You've got 'em pegged, you do! ;)
25 posted on 05/09/2008 3:44:28 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (If McCain really CAN "win without conservatives," then why do you care if I vote for him or not?)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
What all these people forget is that George Bush running as a conservative won the most votes ever in 2004. 62 million or something like that. I think Kerry was 3 million behind and he was the second most votes ever. Conservatism wins.

However, this year conservatism may not win because the Republicans have screwed things up so much when they were in power and the John McPain approach may succeed.... we will see in November.

26 posted on 05/09/2008 3:46:30 AM PDT by Galactica
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

How about it. Could all of you “hold your nose and vote for the lesser of two evils” still do that if Hillary is the Republican VP?


27 posted on 05/09/2008 3:55:45 AM PDT by liliesgrandpa ("Republican Party = "Hold Your Nose and Vote Party"")
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

I just LOVE this woman.


28 posted on 05/09/2008 4:00:57 AM PDT by imahawk (Defeat liberalism, its the right thing to do for America.)
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To: HEY4QDEMS

That would be “YOU’RE”.


29 posted on 05/09/2008 4:02:23 AM PDT by imahawk (Defeat liberalism, its the right thing to do for America.)
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To: liliesgrandpa
How about it. Could all of you “hold your nose and vote for the lesser of two evils” still do that if Hillary is the Republican VP?

Once a young woman has made that first, fateful decision to degrade herself by descending into the world of prostitution... the pertinent question, each and every night, is no longer will she, but rather: how will she attempt to rationalize it all away, the following morning...?

30 posted on 05/09/2008 4:04:03 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (If McCain really CAN "win without conservatives," then why do you care if I vote for him or not?)
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To: liliesgrandpa

They still would. For some reason, an “R” by a guy’s name means he’s qualified to be president.

Our side is just as stupid as their side, and it makes me sad and angry to see it.

This election has been a total shocker to me. I didn’t know conservatives were almost as ignorant as liberals when they want to believe something. (McLame)

People must understand how lose-lose this is. But how can they when they’re willing to lie about McLame’s conservatism and walk around kissing his rear.


31 posted on 05/09/2008 4:04:33 AM PDT by Crazieman (Vote Juan McAmnesty in 2008! Because freedom abroad is more important than freedom at home!)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

I wouldn’t put it past McCain to pick Hillary. And I don’t think she would turn it down. After all, the Democrats have already deserted her—what would she have to lose? And McCain is old, so she wouldn’t have to wait long before she could step into his position. At his age, any number of things could...happen.


32 posted on 05/09/2008 4:06:12 AM PDT by giotto
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To: ishabibble
What the hell do you mean “one grievance or another"? My word, there is a whole laundry list.You really are in the tank for the trainwreck are you not?
33 posted on 05/09/2008 4:07:45 AM PDT by imahawk (Defeat liberalism, its the right thing to do for America.)
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To: HEY4QDEMS

you’re ?


34 posted on 05/09/2008 4:08:21 AM PDT by ASA Vet (Do we really want either Huma Abedin or Michelle Obama answering the White House phone at 3 AM?)
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To: MaggieCarta

“Actually, Ms Coulter is correct. He would be stupid enough to do it.”

I’m pretty sure there must be Republican Party rules against such apostasy...but rules seem to be pretty liquid these days.

And McCain *would* be stupid enough to do it, just to be a media darling for a little longer.


35 posted on 05/09/2008 4:09:22 AM PDT by PLMerite ("Unarmed, one can only flee from Evil. But Evil isn't overcome by fleeing from it." Jeff Cooper)
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To: imahawk

I guess so...I’m 100% supporting and voting for the U.S. military this election, and that ain’t Barry!


36 posted on 05/09/2008 4:12:52 AM PDT by ishabibble (ALL-AMERICAN INFIDEL)
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To: PLMerite
I’m pretty sure there must be Republican Party rules against such apostasy...but rules seem to be pretty liquid these days.

Ronaldus Maximus' 11th Commandment: Thou shalt not speak ill of another Republican. McCain doesn't qualify.

37 posted on 05/09/2008 4:16:22 AM PDT by MaggieCarta (Disobedience is in our DNA. - Charlton Heston)
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To: John Leland 1789

I fear that you are very much correct. The GOP lost it’s strength and integrity the day Reagan finished his last term. From Bush SR. on, it started slipping down hill. Then the spineless Trent Lott/Graham group took charge of the party and it has retreated hopelessly left.

The only way to fix this is for the GOP to fail miserably and the American people to see what real Socialism actually means. The economy will fail along with the Democrat stupidity that taxes create prosperity. That is, only for the parasites who believe they are owed something, which is most modern Democrats.

The only way to get through to an Alcoholic is to let them hit bottom hard. And the GOP pretty much drunk with their misguided leadership. Let this train-wreck find it’s own end of the track.


38 posted on 05/09/2008 4:17:26 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (Juan McCain....The lesser of Three Liberals.")
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To: giotto
"After all, the Democrats have already deserted her—what would she have to lose?"

Reminds me of an April 20th post:
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To: jwparkerjr
" Hillary is just such a creature and any celebrating of her demise could be a big mistake until the death certificate arrives in the form of a convention naming Obama as the candidate."

Assuming things don't get so nasty that she ends up supporting McCain.

15 posted on Sunday, April 20, 2008 3:29:27 AM by LZ_Bayonet (There's Always Something.............And there's always something worse!)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2004224/posts?page=15#15

39 posted on 05/09/2008 4:27:05 AM PDT by LZ_Bayonet (There's Always Something.............And there's always something worse!)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
Think about that for a minute. “McCain/Clinton 2008.”

We got McCain as the nominee, not because of issues, but because of too many Republicans insane fear of Hillary. A McCain/Clinton ticket would be the perfect punctuation on a bizarre election year. What sweet irony!

I think it would be hilarious!LOL

40 posted on 05/09/2008 4:38:01 AM PDT by upsdriver (My kingdom for an acceptable presidential candidate!!)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
Great.

Republicrat becomes an official third party.

Hey, Kent. I got the hell out of Seattle two years ago and haven't regretted it a minute.

41 posted on 05/09/2008 4:39:15 AM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (If Hillary is elected, her legacy will be telling the American people: Better put some ice on that.)
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To: John Leland 1789
We need some real (genuinely Constitutional/Conservative third-party movement so that we can re-establish a two-party system.

Amen, brother.

It may only be worth 35% of the vote but that would be enough in a 3 party system. A genuinely conservative party would balance political equations and provide a voice for conservatism, sorely lacking in our political climate.

The Libertarian party has tried for years to garner support and failed completely to be competitive. A conservative party would be competitive. It is time and McCain proves it.

The only remaining issue is to select candidates outside the primary electorate process. The shenanigans of this cycle has demonstrated the thorough corruption of the system.

42 posted on 05/09/2008 4:39:33 AM PDT by Amos the Prophet (here come I, gravitas in tow.)
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To: liliesgrandpa

There would be no lesser-of-evils in that case. The enemy would be in both camps.

No choice but to vote third party.


43 posted on 05/09/2008 4:43:32 AM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (If Hillary is elected, her legacy will be telling the American people: Better put some ice on that.)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
“He makes a compelling case that if the GOP has any chance of retaining power in D.C., the party should realize that this isn’t our father’s Republican Party anymore.”

It's a compelling case if your primary goal is to get the GOP elected. That has never been my goal.

My goal has always been to get elected the candidate who will be best for the country, and, being best, by my definition, is protecting the US Constitution, defending the nation, protecting its borders, and not only upholding but defending traditional American values (protection of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness) as the Pope and Sarkozy have done recently and which no American running for POTUS has done this entire campaign cycle.

I really don't care about the GOP and they can disappear for eternity should a truly conservative (classically liberal) party come along that can replace them and win elections.

44 posted on 05/09/2008 4:47:07 AM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (If Hillary is elected, her legacy will be telling the American people: Better put some ice on that.)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP
The only way to get through to an Alcoholic is to let them hit bottom hard. And the GOP pretty much drunk with their misguided leadership. Let this train-wreck find it’s own end of the track.

It has been a long time coming. Out of the ashes may yet come a new nation founded on liberty and dedicated to the God given rights of personal freedom.

We need a Constitution party that will return us to our founding principles.

45 posted on 05/09/2008 4:49:52 AM PDT by Amos the Prophet (here come I, gravitas in tow.)
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To: Amos the Prophet

......We need a Constitution party that will return us to our founding principles.....

Recipe for failure. We have a two party system with primaries. Work within the American system or elect Liberals..... that’s your choice. A third party vote is a trashed vote by a marginalized voter.


46 posted on 05/09/2008 4:53:46 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . The Bitcons will elect a Democrat by default)
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To: HEY4QDEMS

Well, as long as they keep an ‘R’ after their names they’ll get my vote! Haw haw haw - vote Republican, I always say!


47 posted on 05/09/2008 4:53:50 AM PDT by AD from SpringBay (We deserve the government we allow.)
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To: PLMerite
You raise an interesting question. US political parties are unlike the European ones, which have the power to expel members when they become apostates. Theoretically only here, if McCain directed his controlled delegates to the Republican Convention to support Hillary Clinton for Veep, that would be it, plain and simple.

How else can you explain Dan Quail and Spiro T. Agnew, to name two obvious examples?

Congressman Billybob

Latest article, "Why I Deservedly Lost"

48 posted on 05/09/2008 5:01:43 AM PDT by Congressman Billybob ( www.ArmorforCongress.com)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Not in a million years, it will never happen.

Lieberman there might be a tiny chance, but Hillary, no way.


49 posted on 05/09/2008 5:04:50 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

So if I read this right, we need to burn the constitution, embrace our communist brothers in the rat party and get ourselves measured for a ball and chain.

Gallagher has made his disgusting liberal leanings well known this election cycle. Sam Adams had Gallagher in mind when he wrote this -

“If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude
greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us
in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; May your chains set lightly upon
you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.”


50 posted on 05/09/2008 5:07:04 AM PDT by sergeantdave (Governments hate armed citizens more than armed criminals)
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