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At West Virginia rally, Clinton vows to fight on
Pittsburgh Tribune Review ^ | david brown

Posted on 05/08/2008 11:37:07 AM PDT by Salena Zito

At West Virginia rally, Clinton vows to fight on By David Brown TRIBUNE-REVIEW Thursday, May 8, 2008 CHARLESTON, W.Va. -- Memo to those writing political obituaries for Hillary Clinton: She ain't done yet. Clinton sought to drive home that message to hundreds of cheering supporters at a rally here today, contending West Virginia will muzzle the pundits by giving her a resounding win on Tuesday over Barack Obama, whose victory Tuesday in North Carolina and strong showing in Indiana moved him closer to clinching the Democratic presidential nomination. "I know that according to the polls, I'm doing well here. But I want to do really well," Clinton said. "Some people call you swing voters, I call you hard-working Americans." She said she is best able to defeat Republican John McCain in the fall because she can carry swing states like Pennsylvania, Ohio, and, according to most predictions, West Virginia. Noting that no one has won the presidency since 1968 without carrying the Mountain State, she said West Virginians "represent the heart and soul of the Democratic Party."

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: West Virginia
KEYWORDS: 2008; barack; bitter; catholic; clinton; democrats; election; elections; hillary; hillaryclinton; immigration; obama; operationchaos; rush; talkradio; wright; wv2008

1 posted on 05/08/2008 11:37:07 AM PDT by Salena Zito
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To: Salena Zito

You go, Beast.


2 posted on 05/08/2008 11:40:26 AM PDT by Retired Greyhound
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To: Salena Zito

“Memo to those writing political obituaries for Hillary Clinton: She ain’t done yet.”

Yeah, just ‘cause the power hungry, mega-whore won’t quit, that means she’s still alive.

You know what — I haven’t conceeded either, and my wife and kids will vote for me, and I’ve got money in the bank. Guess that makes me a viable candidate, too.


3 posted on 05/08/2008 11:43:18 AM PDT by ProfessorGage
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To: Salena Zito
Yeah, hillary!

You just keep on going. Fight to the finish! Never give up!

Maybe you can get in a wrestling match on the convention floor, and crush Magic Man with your cankles.

4 posted on 05/08/2008 11:45:45 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Salena Zito
People are starting to walk away. This has gone on long enough.

My theory is that white votes for Obama is IN FACT, an anti-Hillary vote. I suppose that is inconceivable in her mind.

5 posted on 05/08/2008 11:45:59 AM PDT by Sacajaweau ("The Cracker" will be renamed "The Crapper")
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To: Sacajaweau
There are plenty of Donks who've had all of the Clintons they can stand. Many are state party people who saw their contributions vacuumed up every time the hateful pair came around.
6 posted on 05/08/2008 11:48:41 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: All

At the end of the day...I’m betting she retires EARLY from the Senate. No way she wants to walk into those chambers with a Big “L” on her forehead...She’s simply a poor loser...not an unrelenting go getter.


7 posted on 05/08/2008 11:49:14 AM PDT by Sacajaweau ("The Cracker" will be renamed "The Crapper")
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To: Retired Greyhound

I hope she runs third party.


8 posted on 05/08/2008 11:52:26 AM PDT by proudpapa (May God Bless Our Troops.)
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To: Sacajaweau
Wonder what's going to happen when it comes time for her to endorse Obama to "unite" the party.

Personally, I still think she will pull something to get the nod.

9 posted on 05/08/2008 11:54:17 AM PDT by Las Vegas Ron ("I fear we have woken a sleeping giant and filled her with a terrible resolve" - Osama 9-11-01?)
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To: Salena Zito

I imagine there are a lot of West Virginians who weren’t pleased at Obama’s opinion of blue collar voters...


10 posted on 05/08/2008 12:06:33 PM PDT by cake_crumb (Obama's bus needs a lift kit just to clear all the bodies!)
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To: Sacajaweau

You mean like John Kerry? or Teddy Kennedy who lost out to Carter.


11 posted on 05/08/2008 12:14:24 PM PDT by rod1 (u)
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To: proudpapa

I hear the Stalinist Party line is still avilable if she wants it.


12 posted on 05/08/2008 12:15:15 PM PDT by rod1 (u)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

But how can she win the nomination? Either she and Bill can persuade the bulk of super delegates, and/or, they get Florida and Michigan delegates based on those elections to boost her delegate count. Otherwise, this contest is over.

The projections already assume that she will win big in West Virginia and Kentucky and get the bulk of thee delegates from those states. Even taking that into account, she’s still far behind.

Can the Clintons pull off a back room deal/strong arm delegates, and still unite the party behind them?


13 posted on 05/08/2008 12:22:19 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: All

Some numbers:

Estimated Obama delegate count: -— 1848
Estimated Hillary delegate count: - 1686

That includes committed Supers.

Remaining:

West Virginia — 28
Kentucky -——— 51
Oregon -———— 52
Puerto Rico —— 55
Montana ———— 16
So. Dakota -—— 15

Total remaining 217. Estimated (based on polling proportional splits):

WVA -— Clinton 17 —— Obama 11
KY —— Clinton 33 —— Obama 18
OR —— Clinton 25 —— Obama 27
PR —— Clinton 33 —— Obama 22
MT —— Clinton 9 -—— Obama 7
SD —— Clinton 6 -—— Obama 9

Net change expected +27 Hillary. Obama will lead by 135, including presently committed supers.

There is no possible scenario for him to be less than 50 delegates ahead.

It would appear to me that her optimal strategy is to seek to persuade the DNC to fund Congressional races with enormous proportions of total funding, denying every penny of that money to Obama — all while making the occasional NY speech in his support to win him a state he already owns. The funding focus earns her IOUs from those Congress people (super delegates) for 2012, with her hoping for an Obama loss.


14 posted on 05/08/2008 12:23:46 PM PDT by Owen
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To: proudpapa

3rd party would be awesome, but I don’t see it happening.

If they steal if from Obama, he will likely run as an Indy, but he will have good reason.


15 posted on 05/08/2008 12:32:46 PM PDT by Retired Greyhound
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To: Owen

The Clintons are scorched earth politicians. Why should that change? Makes me think there is an even bigger Obamashell about to explode.


16 posted on 05/08/2008 12:33:45 PM PDT by Rippin
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To: Dilbert San Diego
I don't know...it's just, well, I wouldn't put anything past Clinton, Inc.

But to unite the party after...well your guess is as good as mine. Lot's of speculation on my part but I can say this for sure.

It's gonna be fun as hell to watch!!!

17 posted on 05/08/2008 12:33:52 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron ("I fear we have woken a sleeping giant and filled her with a terrible resolve" - Osama 9-11-01?)
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To: Salena Zito
Did Senator Byrd attend her WV rally?


18 posted on 05/08/2008 12:36:45 PM PDT by jimbo123
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To: Retired Greyhound

I don’t either, but I can dream, can’t I?


19 posted on 05/08/2008 12:44:56 PM PDT by proudpapa (McCain-Pawlenty '08)
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To: proudpapa

if you ask me, that is a wet dream (of course the words Hillary and wet-dream should ever appear on the same page)


20 posted on 05/08/2008 12:51:57 PM PDT by Retired Greyhound
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To: Salena Zito

Obama would have to be nuts to offer her the VP slot. His life expectancy would be 6 months after taking office—tops.


21 posted on 05/08/2008 12:51:59 PM PDT by rbg81 (DRAIN THE SWAMP!!)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

I agree with you...Look for an October surprise in late May or early June...It will be something on “BO” that hasn’t been uncovered and the Clintonistas will spring it on him and make the case that he can’t be elected in November. This witch may be down but she is a long way from being out of this thing. You can bet she still has something underhanded in her bag of tricks that she will use.


22 posted on 05/08/2008 12:56:17 PM PDT by bestrongbpositive
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To: Salena Zito

It cost the Clintons 6.5 million to lose NC big time and eke a win in Indiana. Keep on going Hillary, it is good for the economy.


23 posted on 05/08/2008 12:59:18 PM PDT by Biblebelter (If the big blue states got to choose the Republican nominee, I say let them elect him in the fall)
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To: Owen
Net change expected +27 Hillary. Obama will lead by 135, including presently committed supers.

There is no possible scenario for him to be less than 50 delegates ahead.

True, but "ahead" isn't the criterion for nomination. Unless Obama can come up with enough delegates to clinch, Hillary will argue that simply being ahead in the count doesn't cut it - a plausible position, actually - and she will have every right to proceed to the convention floor.

24 posted on 05/08/2008 1:01:43 PM PDT by Interesting Times (Swiftboating, you say? Check out ToSetTheRecordStraight.com)
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To: Salena Zito


HILL'S ALLIES JUMP OVERBOARD
25 posted on 05/08/2008 1:04:54 PM PDT by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: Salena Zito

Hillary is in the scorch and burn mode.

If she can’t have it, no one will, and she may be able to run against McCain in 2012 - which would be unlikely if Obama gets elected.


26 posted on 05/08/2008 1:13:34 PM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: Salena Zito

Go Hildog!


27 posted on 05/08/2008 1:16:28 PM PDT by marinamuffy (I really dislike McCain but I'll crawl over broken glass to vote against Hillary or the Obamanation.)
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To: Salena Zito

Thanked ElRushbo and OPERATION CHAOS.


28 posted on 05/08/2008 1:54:38 PM PDT by Biggirl (A biggirl with a big heart for God's animal creation, with 4 cats in my life as proof. =^..^=)
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To: rbg81

I was watching one of those cable talking head shows on an unnamed cable news channel, and a panelist said that Obama would need a food taster if Hillary was his running mate.

I couldn’t believe that somebody on a mainstream cable news show would say that. Talk of Arkancide and Clinton mysterious deaths are the stuff of internet bloggers, not so-called legitimate news commentators. I must say, I was shocked to hear somebody on TV say that.


29 posted on 05/08/2008 2:40:51 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Sacajaweau

True. I tell all who will listen-Obama’s votes practically doubled once Edwards dropped out. Most anti-Clinton white votes were going to Edwards. Once he was out, there was nowhere else to go except the Magic Negro. Had Obama not been running, and without the asinine operation ‘KAOS’, The Clintons would have been done for long ago.


30 posted on 05/08/2008 3:02:36 PM PDT by The Ghost of Rudy McRomney (Using Hillary to nip Obama's heels is like beating a dead horse with an armed nuclear bomb.)
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