Rush Limbaugh urges vote for Obama

CNN ^ | May 08, 2008 | Alexander Mooney

[Berlin_Freeper]

He has publicly urged Republicans to vote for Sen. Hillary Clinton to keep the divisive Democratic nomination fight alive, but talk radio host Rush Limbaugh said Wednesday he really wants Sen. Barack Obama to be the party's nominee.

"I now believe he would be the weakest of the Democrat nominees," Limbaugh, among the most powerful voices in conservative radio, said on his program. "I now urge the Democrat superdelegates to make your mind up and publicly go for Obama."

"Barack Obama has shown he cannot get the votes Democrats need to win -- blue-collar, working-class people," Limbaugh said. "He can get effete snobs, he can get wealthy academics, he can get the young, and he can get the black vote, but Democrats do not win with that."

[Berlin_Freeper]

Obama's image is damaged by Hillary who spent many millions of her own money.

Operation CHAOS is a success.

[Berlin_Freeper]

CHAOS

[ovrtaxt]

Despiote all the panic and freaking out among Freepers over this, I think Operation Chaos is the funniest thing Rush has come up with in years. The brilliance is in the psychology of it- the paranoia and conspiracy aspects of this thing are just genius. Go CHAOS!

[Soliton]

The GIANT Pu**y now seeks CYA in case Hillary causes damage. Obama doesn’t want Hillary as VP, but he may be forced to take her because OC has kept her close.

[Berlin_Freeper]

Definitely. See this item I just posted for a good example of that.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2012891/posts

[familyop]

"'I now believe he would be the weakest of the Democrat nominees,' Limbaugh, among the most powerful voices in conservative radio, said on his program. 'I now urge the Democrat superdelegates to make your mind up and publicly go for Obama.'"

I'm sure that the superdelegates will listen to Mr. Limbaugh's show and fall for that bit of "reverse psychology"...not. Even more of them will vote for Morpheus...I mean Obama.

Most people in both parties are unhappy with the appointed candidates, and so far, have the small consolation that Hillary won't make it to the White House to punish them for being insubordinate peasants under the new western socialism.

[igoramus08]

Obama will crumble in the GE. He has trouble even taking out Hillary inspite of his overwhelming money advantage, media advantage and Dean/Pelosi/Kennedy/Kerry support advantage.

[livius]

That’s what Rush thinks, obviously, but it’s a miscalculation. If Obama is the candidate, I think he’ll probably win. There are enough fools in this country, not to mention the cheating he can summon up from his days with ACORN, to get Barry elected, particularly since the turn out for McCain is not going to be heavy or enthusiastic. I think we’re in for a rough future.

[modest proposal]

I do not believe this loser will win. Anyone who votes for him she be deported for treason. And I mean that as nuts as it might sound.

[ToastedHead]

Landslide victory for McCain. Every “reliable” democrat I work with won’t vote for Obama. They’ll stay home, and Republicans will be smart enough to go vote against him.

[driftless2]

I would tend to favor McCain as long as he runs the right campaign. He must run negative ads about Obama. As with everything else there are plenty of Americans who are oblivious to the event surrounding Obama of the last month. If McCain can point out Obama’s leftist connections and Marxist world view, he can sway many voters. Remember many Americans are still ignorant about Obama. They more they know, the less they’ll like.

[nathanbedford]

Is very dangerous to predict presidential elections based on an analysis of the issues, especially when we see those issues through the prism of our own conservatism.

First, we should think about these elections as taking place within the Electoral College. That means that we are dealing with 50 individual state elections. When the election contest is viewed geographically, our prospects are less sanguine than many cancer victims'. Briefly, we lost virtually every key senatorial contests in the last election in places where we should have won and, more importantly, in places where we must win if we are to take the White House. We lost in Virginia, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Missouri, Florida. If we lose any one of these states, we cannot have the White House. If you think it is likely that we will take all of the states, reflect that we even lost Montana!

After one applies a geographic grid to an analysis of the election, one does not get to the issue of issues until after one grapples with the real driver of American election results: race. Nothing is going to crack Obama's 90 plus percent hold on black America. He will get 98% of the largest black turnout ever. He is likely to get a majority of Hispanic votes which now exceed in number the African-American electorate. Since Obama is doing very well among elites, especially university and post-university educated elites, he will do very well in the Jewish electorate. So, on election morning, John McCain will wake up confronted with a wall of ethnicity over which he must climb. Add to that, the probability that most females will vote Democrat this year, and Obama will not even need the gays. Some of us are old enough to recall the days of Barry Goldwater and the talk of "white backlash." Any Republican candidate who relies on white people voting their race is doomed to lose. What percentage of white males must John McCain persuade in order to overcome these odds? In my judgment, whatever it is, it is beyond the realm of rational expectation. Now we can turn to the issues for these issues that McCain must try to pry apart the overwhelming superiority enjoyed by Obama in registration, new registration, money, and monolithic mainstream media support. Seems to me that there will be two issues: the economy and the war and probably in that order unless the economy improves more rapidly than anyone who ought to know has publicly stated. We can argue all day long that the economy should be blamed on the Democrat Congress (in fact I have been posting so for years on these threads and I have been railing especially about the appalling failure of the Bush administration to expose the Democrats' slavish pandering to the environmentalists as a significant cause of our gasoline prices) but the simple fact is that the truth of the matter is that this will be the Bush economy. It will be very difficult for a Republican presidential candidate to walk away from a Republican president's economy.

The second issue is the war. Even if you accept the arguments voiced on these threads that a majority of the American people are against precipitate withdrawal, there is very little evidence they will vote to keep the boys in Iraq. There is very little evidence that the public has great intensity in that belief. In my judgment, the country at his about had it with the war and will vote against the Republicans as a way of disposing of it from their consciousness. If I am wrong, I have to be very, very wrong indeed for McCain's position on the war to overcome his wall of difficulties which I have described above.

[Typical_Whitey]

Obama’s base is the loon’s of the party the far left moveon.org nut cases that are championing change for a socialist agenda the likes of which this country has never seen.

Obama has adopted this sophisticated heal the divisions campaign however, one must ask oneself, who are the divisive? Who’s ideas are we changing? Obama says Corporate America is bad, bringing freedom and democracy to Iraq is bad, protecting our allies and friends from tyranny and opression is bad, unemployment rates at 5 percent bad, gas prices at close to $4.00 a gal bad, (they could be closer to $8.00 gal).

If anybody that does not want to be ruled by a totalitarian dictator that uses nanny state entitlements to lure the lemurs to the cliff then are they being divisive, in Obama’s world it appears that is the selling point.

Masterfully he plays the true blue 100 percent liberal, unashamedly wearing it on his sleeve under the guise of a “Come on guys, you all know things aren’t working out right because the media and the left have been driving this point home to you no matter how well off things actually have been, forget that Islamo-Nazis came to this country on 911 to kill us and will come again to terrorize us by killing our children, forget about being on offense and fighting a pre-emptive battle before more American citizens pay for the governments “Failure to imagine the threat before it materializes”. You are indoctrinated and made to believe that we are on the wrong track, my change is simply Karl Marx vision for this country and if you don’t agree with it then you are more of the same old D.C. problems that don’t work. You are the reason for change, either that or you are a bigot, racist, homophobe, white Christian Conservative and the rest of the country would like you silenced.

[raybbr]

The GIANT Pu**y now seeks CYA in case Hillary causes damage. Obama doesn’t want Hillary as VP, but he may be forced to take her because OC has kept her close.

Hear that bell ringing in the background? It's time for your meds.

[lentulusgracchus]

Obama's image is damaged by Hillary who spent many millions of her own money.

Hillary broke and beaten, Slick down in the dumps and losing his mojo-hold on the Dems, and Obama all beat up with the shiny inevitability and Media-supplied Teflon knocked off him......Dems all mad at each other.....

Gotta give it to Rush and Company, Operation Chaos has done its job.

Too bad McCain + RiNO's + Yacht Club Pubbies is such a losing bet.

[lentulusgracchus]

Obama doesn’t want Hillary as VP, but he may be forced to take her because OC has kept her close

He won't offer Beast the VP slot because he values his life.

[johnny7]

Landslide victory for McCain.

Barring any monumental gaffes... the RINO, Juanito McCain, will obliterate the black Dukakis. Many “purple” and “blue states” will turn red on November 4th... and the racist, DemocRAT party will finally be exposed.

[lexusppd]

An Obama/Clinton ticket would be the worst possible one for the Dems. It would mean having a ticket comprised of a person who is NOT trusted by 60%+ of Americans running with an individual who is mired in controversy regarding his religious affiliation as well has his statements regarding the bitterness of people who have strong religious beliefs. Then there is the problem of who is at the top of the ticket? Obama will never win running for the top position and if it goes to Hillary the blacks take a hike in great numbers since it can only happen by her stealing it from him.

The problem with the democrats and why they cannot sustain the fever generated early on by the likes of Hillary (can't lose candidate 1 year ago) and Hussein (unbeatable in February) is that there is no “there” there and it is impossible to maintain the illusion over a long period of time. The longer the process drags out the more truth comes out. This is why Limbaugh's idea for OC was nothing short of pure genius since it played on the greatest weakness of the liberals, their total lack of anything but empty promises and feel good sound bites.

[lexusppd]

He will lose by the largest margin since Reagan CRUSHED McGovern.

[lexusppd]

He will lose by the largest margin since Reagan CRUSHED McGovern.

[lentulusgracchus]

....and the racist, DemocRAT party will finally be exposed.

By whom, CNN? CBS? Fat chance. Oprah and Katic Couric are stabbing hatpins in a McCain voodoo doll every night already.

[Rummyfan]

No, I don't think a lot of people are going to vote for McCain, but a lot of people are going to vote against B Hussein Obama.

[lentulusgracchus]

.....e will lose by the largest margin since Reagan CRUSHED McGovern.

Ronald Reagan never ran against George McGovern. He ran against Jimmy Carter in 1980 and Walter Mondale in 1984.

Richard Nixon beat George McGovern in 1972, taking every State in the Union except Taxachusetts. That was the election in which something like 10 of 11 journalists admitted they voted for McGovern. But insisted they were "independents", lol.

[lentulusgracchus]

Your pessimism seems to be shared by the glitterati who normally give serious political money to the GOP. They've been keeping it pretty well zipped up for the last 18 months, and the guys who write about these things report that the uberrich / Yacht Club Pubbies expect a big Democrat win this year. Which they'd just as soon happened, since they think the country's headed for a big economic smashup (despite the labors of the Plunge Protection Group, now publicly known as "the President's Working Group on Financial Markets" chaired by Sec'y. Paulson in the President's absence).

The big yachts will be running up the Jolly Roger and getting underway this Christmas, right before the retroactive DemonRat tax super-duper-mega-increases and capital-movement controls go into effect January 1, 2009.

[LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget]

I agree with you 100%. The tin foil hat portion of the dim party is substantial. The diagnosed ones must be upping their meds at this point, and the undiagnosed ones bashing their heads against something and singing “They are coming to take me away...” Pure sheer unadulterated genius.

[ovrtaxt]

That happened right after the Germans bombed Pearl Habor, right?

[Soliton]

an Obama/Clinton ticket is a sure winner. It will unite the press like never before.

[6SJ7]

Obama doesn’t want Hillary as VP, but he may be forced to take her because OC has kept her close.

You do not want Hillary saying "Got your back". She'll take it literally.

[lexusppd]

"That happened right after the Germans bombed Pearl Habor, right?"

LOL, my bad, had a brain cramp. Just finished a discussion elsewhere on the strength of Reagan and the discussion turned to the Nixon 49 State victory over McGovern and I somehow used his name instead of Mondale's.

Thanks for correcting me.

[ovrtaxt]

haha those Kraut bastards!

[advance_copy]

That happened right after the Germans bombed Pearl Habor, right?

Forget it, he's rolling.

[lexusppd]

"an Obama/Clinton ticket is a sure winner. It will unite the press like never before"

This is a joke, right? Do you actually believe the press can be any more united behind Democrats, any Democrat versus a Republican then they already are? Do you believe there was ever a chance that they would get behind McCain in any way if the Dem ticket was not Obama/Hillary?

BTW, that combination is the worst possible scenario for the left and they know it. It will happen only if they have a death wish.

[never4get]

He won't offer Beast the VP slot because he values his life.

LOL....

[lexusppd]

I have noted my error and accepted responsibility for same. But as you are a 4 year registered member of FR you are obviously in a superior position and your opinions are so much more valuable then one who is, as you folks refer to us, a "newbie".

Thanks for the input. It's always interesting to gain insight into an individuals thought processes. It reveals things about them many times they would rather not have known by others.

[Soliton]

Hillary knows she has lost the nomination. The ONLY reason to go forward is to force an offer for VP

[lexusppd]

I know, see #26

[Huck]

I agree. It’s been very very funny and hasn’t gotten boring even though it’s been the main topic for weeks. It’s hilarious, and the way he has played on fears etc like you say is great. Plus, it’s turned out to be a brilliant political move.

[smalltownslick]

“That’s what Rush thinks, obviously, but it’s a miscalculation. If Obama is the candidate, I think he’ll probably win. There are enough fools in this country, not to mention the cheating he can summon up from his days with ACORN, to get Barry elected, particularly since the turn out for McCain is not going to be heavy or enthusiastic. I think we’re in for a rough future.”

I’m glad you said that, I’ve been feeling very depressed the last couple days and, like you, fear he will be our next President. He appears unstoppable, nothing hurts him.

[LadyNavyVet]

“Is very dangerous to predict presidential elections based on an analysis of the issues, especially when we see those issues through the prism of our own conservatism.”

Yep. The vast majority of what passes for political analysis by Freepers is little more than psychological projection. They can’t seem to grasp that this election will not be decided by people like them. It will be decided by mushy middle voters who care about likeability and their pocketbooks, and couldn’t give a rip about Rev. Wright or William Ayers. Witness Obama’s numbers in the Rasmussen head-to-heads, which have rebounded completely in the past few days. He and Hillary are both up over McCain, despite Operation Chaos. To anybody willing to look at it objectively, that should reveal that McCain is a weak candidate. If he isn’t killing Obama now, with all Obama’s recent negative press, he isn’t going to be beating him in late October when the undecideds start deciding.

“Even if you accept the arguments voiced on these threads that a majority of the American people are against precipitate withdrawal, there is very little evidence they will vote to keep the boys in Iraq.”

Again, the arguments about the war voiced on these threads are more psychological projection. Rasmussen’s latest numbers:

“April 29-30, 2008
When it comes to the War in Iraq, should the United States withdraw all combat troops immediately, bring the combat troops home within a year, or stay until the mission is completed?
24% Withdraw all combat troops immediately
38% Bring combat troops home within a year
34% Stay until the mission is complete
4% Not sure

So 62% say bring them home now or within a year, which is even faster than either Dem candidate is saying. Those who think the war is going to cause people to vote for McCain are kidding themselves. It’s likely the opposite is true.

[nathanbedford]

I agree with your post entirely. In the context of trying to identify the appeal of Obama I published this post, which discusses the mushy middle which will decide this election and which has virtually nothing in common with those of us who post here:

Yes Obama is an empty suit but he is actually more than that, he is a candidate who is African American and this racial reality entirely disguises the fact that the suit is empty. In fact, it was always better for Obama's campaign for the suit to be empty.

The American left, indeed the international left, is a hodgepodge of mutually inconsistent plans and programs which history has demonstrated cannot work. Leftists persist in their leftism because they believe that they are smarter than everybody else. Which really means," I am smarter than all the leftists who've come before and failed with this idea." The glue which holds leftism together when it should splinter apart because of its mutually inconsistent precepts, because it has shopped the entire country to ravening special-interest groups, is their idea that Republicans/conservatives are racists and they are not.

As long as we are racists and they are not, the left need not face up to its own looniness. This is why the left reacts so vehemently to politically incorrect racist remarks. This is why the left goes so far as to force employees to undergo reeducation camps so that their anti-racism can be justified. This is why Imus was forced off the air and why even posters on this forum object to my avatar. The coin of this political race card is white guilt.

Now comes Obama. As one black writer has pointed out, he is made a tacit deal with white liberal America: you support me blindly and I will in turn refrain from rubbing America's nose in its history of slavery and segregation. You can expiate your white guilt by voting for me. But Obama has to hold up his end of the deal, he must not rub our noses in our sins like Jesse Jackson or Reverend Al. As long as he was seen to be an empty suit-offering no reproach to America-we were comfortable with him.

Now comes The Right Reverend Wright. He has broken the deal. This is why Obama had to disown him. Wright rubs our noses in racism. To a conservative his crazy allegations are so bizarre that it makes not much sense and doesn't change the equation. We don't buy into this AIDS in Africa business, for example. But for a liberal, Reverend Wright's allegations are not bizarre but actually within the realm of intellectual respectability. We can dismiss them, the left cannot because much of it comes right out of their own catechism.

What about the great mass in the middle? The moderates, the undecideds, the people who don't follow politics until after Labor Day, the folks who permit the likes of Barbara Walters or Oprah Winfrey to persuade them, what about them, the people who actually decide our elections? Until now, these decent folks don't want to be racists. They are always looking for a savior because they will tell you, "I always vote for the man." They shrink from the very idea of voting based on ideology. So an empty suit is no problem as long as he is also a savior. Obama was a savior. More, he was an empty vessel into which we could pour all of our yearnings and simplistic hopes about the political process.

Now this illusion has been shattered by the right Reverend Wright and it remains to be seen whether the mainstream media can put Humpty Dumpty's pieces back together again.

[KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle]

I find myself nodding admiringly at your postings more and more frequently, as the days go by. Thank you for being both intelligent and sane. ;)

[LadyNavyVet]

“They shrink from the very idea of voting based on ideology. So an empty suit is no problem as long as he is also a savior. Obama was a savior. More, he was an empty vessel into which we could pour all of our yearnings and simplistic hopes about the political process.”

Exactly. Swing voters are lazy voters. Don’t bother them with issues, appeal to their emotions and look good doing it, and they’re yours. Another thing Obama has going for him is that he’s not the status quo. He is the “not Bush.” Freepers underestimate the appeal of that. After eight years of incumbency by one party, it is rare for the Presidency not to change hands. Bush 41 is an exception, and he had the distinct advantage of following the most popular president of the modern era. McCain does not.

All those Freepers who are confidently predicting that Americans will not vote for a socialist need to remember that 59 million of them voted for a stilted, unlikeable guy in 2004 whose ACU rating is only a few points better than Obama’s, against an incumbent president in wartime.

[LadyNavyVet]

Aw, shucks...

[Fundamentally Fair]

He will lose by the largest margin since Reagan CRUSHED McGovern.

Nixon.

I agree.

[a real Sheila]

On his show earlier today, he totally denied what was said in this story. He also said CNN and several other MSM outlets were blatantly LYING and running stories that he had called off Operation Chaos.

[lexusppd]

I know, I know, see #29

[rob777]

"Hillary knows she has lost the nomination. The ONLY reason to go forward is to force an offer for VP"


More likely to damage Obama enough so that he loses the GE and thus setting her up to be the party's "savior" in 2012.