Great articles I hear...
Posted on 05/07/2008 10:18:13 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
According to the Martin County Sheriffs Office, just about everyone wants a gun, and some gun dealers in the east agree.
The reason why may surprise you.
One dealer says it has to do with who may win the presidency.
"That's my 2nd Amendment right. I should be able to have a handgun permit,” said gun owner Dallas Barber. “That's my 2nd Amendment right."
And apparently in Martin County many others feel that way.
The Sheriff tells us since January 180 people have applied for a permit. Like dozens of others Dallas Barber was denied a handgun carry permit. In his case, he is a Vietnam Vet who has been diagnosed with Post Traumatic Stress Disorder..
"I don't think they should be anymore strict than they already are,” Barber said.
That’s why gun shop dealers say, get a permit first. “Why should I waste my time showing them something that I can't sell them,” said Doc Bowen, owner of Doc's Gun & Pawn Shop.
This owner says business is booming; he sells at least 10 to 15 handguns a day.
"I think in North Carolina everyone feels they have the right and obligation to own a handgun,” Bowen said. But surprisingly he attributes the spike in the sale of fire arms to politics.
“Hillary Clinton and Obama both have said they don't like guns--especially assault rifles--guns that will hold over 10 rounds,” Bowen said. “So the people now think they're going to lose their right to have a gun in November."
An argument that those who were denied permits don't agree with; But gun dealers are reaping the benefits.
Bowen tells us when former president Bill Clinton ran for office back in the early 1990’s for month’s rifles were out of stock at many stores across the east.
"They must be bitter."
lol The threat of gun control has to be the best thing ever for your local gun shop. Every time its mentioned, people rush in to buy guns, and every time a gun grabbing presidential candidate is in the running people rush in to buy guns. I myself went out to buy some hand guns, and what the gun grabbers refer to as “assault weapons” during the time when gun control was a big media driven issue between the Columbine shootings and the 2000 election. With a dem congress in place, and the candidates that are running(who knows what McCain would do), I will seriously consider stocking up on more guns I want....and bulk ammo purchases in the next year.
No, gun buyers & owners in general. I wouldn’t make light of a fellow disabled veteran.
for month’s? Hmmm. Proofreading is your friend, Mr. Mondale.
Oh!
I get it now.
The whole religious gun owners clinging to bitterness thing.
(Or however it went.)
PTSD is not something I would wish on anyone, veterans especially.
Serve your country, lose your right to carry a weapon. That is seriously f'ed up.
We don't have the benefit of affirmation action acquired degrees from Princeton/Harvard.
>>>”Serve your country, lose your right to carry a weapon. That is seriously f’ed up.”<<<
Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD) is classified as a mental illness in the DSM IV: http://www.mental-health-today.com/ptsd/dsm.htm so they do have something of a point, in this case.
Someone needs to come up with a standard and effective treatment.
(If there is not already.)
America’s Heroes deserve better.
I find myself wondering if there is a medical “cure” for the mental agony resulting from the severe trauma of watching friends die, living for months with the threat of imminent death, killing other people. . .I can see where love and support and kindness and rest could all help, but I find myself doubting there is a specific pill or therapy for this.
Yeah. That was silly paranoia too, because Clinton didn't do anything like make them illegal, did he?
Oh, he did?
Gosh - maybe it isn't paranoia after all.
Make no mistake about it - both Democratic candidates are big-government city people with no real understanding of gun owners and who view us as bugs under a microscope, to be explained away by some sneering theory of mental pathology. They are from, respectively, two of the urban areas with the most restrictive gun laws in the country. They are both shameless and blatant liars on the topic. They are likely to enjoy a Democratic majority in both houses of Congress. They will absolutely move on this issue early on in their presumed administrations, and once again we will hear earnest and unlimited repetitions of the mantras "sensible gun control" and "keep guns out of the hands of those who shouldn't have them" in an entirely sympathetic press whose operators share the candidates' mistrust and contempt of gun owners.
My personal advice is if you think you might want not an "assault weapon" but any semiautomatic firearm at all including a .22, purchase it now. If either of these people gets in the prices will be going up until the guns are altogether illegal. That isn't a prediction, it's a recitation of history.
Clinton made it practically impossible for anyone with any kind of “domestic violence” charge on their record, even if not actually convicted, to purchase a firearm or CCW, IIRC. Experts: Correct me on this one, if I’m mistaken.
I can understand why, say, a paranoid-schizophrenic might be barred the use of arms. In the case of PTSD, though, the question is whether PTSD so affects one's judgement / ability to right from wrong / whatever that the suffer can't be trusted with a weapon. If not, the law should be modified.
I could not agree more. Bill Clinton made me a gun collector and by his and MSM measurement I now have an arsenal. Me a little single female. Indeed.
NO THEY do not. You have to be determined by the court to be incompetent due to your mental illness to be denied your 2nd amendment rights. This guy may have a legal case.
I wish I had “invested” in more than one HK91 that I sold in ‘96. 2 1/2 profit.
Legislation, followed registration, followed by confiscation, followed by genocide.
I’m reading Unintended Consequences now.
I’m hoping we change ‘genocide’.
This law effectively mandated the discharge of servicemembers who had been convicted of domestic violence or who have had a permanent restraining (protection) order entered against them, and mandates the discharge of all servicemembers who are convicted of domestic violence in the future.
Now, a restraining order isn't a conviction of anything. The trick was that a servicemember must have access to firearms by virtue of his, and yes, her, job. All one had to do to end somebody's military career was to obtain one of these restraining orders. Quite a threat, actually, and the divorce lawyers loved it.
Who are the ones that are like a conservative “ACLU” that help individuals in cases like this? I can’t recall the name of the group or groups...
SKS is the way to go for quick profits but I did the same thing with my HK91 and I wouldn’t be able to do it again. I still cry over it sometimes. Just too painful letting go of it.
ACRU
www.theacru.org
ACJU. But those are ususally freedom of religion cases. He needs a good firearm lawyer. Maybe there is a State law where he live but not Federal. I remember reading where Clinton had ten of thousands of vets added to the do not sell NICS database b/c of PTSD but I thought that all got worked out. Maybe not. It needs too. Gun owners of America where big on his case about that.
Is gunbroker.com having trouble?
Me too. I loved that rifle.
I had all the goodies too. PSG-1 trigger group and adjustable stock, assorted hand guards(fore stocks), the quick release scope mount and the bipod...okay....gonna go cry in my beer now....
Someday again.
I would absolutely not trust McCain or any other RiNO not to roll over on RKBA.
Look at the two briefs the Bush Administration has sent up in firearms cases -- the Emerson brief and the current District of Columbia case. In both cases they argued that all restrictions should be ruled legal, never mind that RKBA is an individual right.
Including, presumably, restrictions that ban firearms ownership, or in the case of the Clintonoid Violence Against Women Act (VAWA), which was pure Hillary malevolence, felonizes people like Dr. Emerson simply for owning a firearm if a divorce court should grant an automatic restraining order on a gun-owning husband. (Presumably, this felonization would reach both sexes, but notice that Slick and Beast called their pet rock the "Violence Against Women Act".)
LOL, I had a Redfield 6x18 scope, Celinni compensator, and the bipod.
I would pay more now to get it back, and now it’s not banned.
Actually, one.
Both of them are from Chicagoland.
Where restrictive gun control was invented: Presser vs. Illinois. They bastardized their militia law so they could deny the citizen body's RKBA. They ignored 2A and 14A (both of which were the law of the land by the time they passed their law), both of which do bind the States as well as the federal government, by their language.
Your advice about purchases is well-framed.
I'd add, that it isn't too early to consult a tax and financial advisor, about possibly moving your IRA or other savings out of reach. When/if Obama or Beast change the tax laws to screw you, they'll almost certainly do it retroactively to January 1, 2009 -- Congress has done that trick before, and the Supreme Court closes their eyes and stops their ears to any suggestion of ex post facto legislation.
I predict the big yachts will hoist hook about Christmas Eve, and get underway, loaded to their Plimsoll marks with K-rand, for Vonaire and Grand Cayman. And I don't doubt that many of them will be flying the Jolly Roger, too.
That's why the big-rich 'Pubbies aren't giving so much this year. They've given up on the election as of last year, and are resigned to a 'Rat administration. They also think the roof will come in during the next year or so, and that whoever is in office will get the blame. They may underestimate the ability of the 'Rats to exploit the situation and turn the whole country into a People's Republic.
My [limited] understanding of PTSD is that it’s like an invisible prison.
Vets suffering from this disorder need close friends to break them out.
I agree that there is no ‘magic cure’, but somebody needs to figure out how to give these people relief.
All 3 are telling us how they’re going to punish us for electing them.
Soon many will long for the Bush days return.
“That’s my 2nd Amendment right. I should be able to have a handgun permit,”
The fact that he thinks this way shows that the leftist indoctrination has taken hold. You either have “permits” or you have a right to keep and bear arms, not both.
Now you've done it! (trust me, you'll get replies on this)
You think they’ll be positive or negative?
My husband and I have discovered that just talking about it is probably the most helpful. It helps if the person you talk to is someone who has also experienced war. Hubby does a group “talk session” at the VA for our young military folks.
Negative. Weapon terminology dictates using the word “magazine” not “clip.” Maybe we’ll head it off. It can be worse than correcting bad grammar (on the Internet?) and not fun to wade through.
Oh, and I too have a Mini-14!
Oh, jeez, that’s right! I’ve gotten in trouble for that before. Hubby ribs me about it all the time!
Great articles I hear...
The people in who don’t have guns are now buying them so they can cling to them as our ‘savior’ has decreed. And they are going to go to church more often, too.
“Clingest thou to thy guns, O ye bitter and redneckish amongst us.” book of Colt, verse .45
Alright, already. ;^) I stand corrected, but do I HAVE to read that magazine? YUK.
(I still want a rifle for Mother’s Day.)
lol I just knew there was a Banana Magazine out there somewhere...
Have been telling many people that very thing. THESE are the good old days....
However, may we not give up the fight. God is not finished with this nation....
I recently picked up a copy of The American Rifleman from 1997.
It brought back memories of no small pistol primers on gun dealers shelves, only 30% of FFL Licenses remaining, Assault Rifle bans, jack booted thugs, gun dealers treated like baby killers by people they had gone to church with all their lives, restraining orders at the drop of a hat and so much more.
The 1990's were indeed The Dark Ages for firearms owners.
I have no desire to return to those days.
Lautenberg ammendment ???
“So the people now think they're going to lose their right to have a gun in November."
One canNOT 'lose' [or recind] a GOD given RIGHT...
supplying in preparation to defend the Right is more like the answer...
LFOD...
My buddy at our local shop told me that more AR-15s have been sold in the past 8 months than the previous 36 months.... more than that for ammo.
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