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Mass. schools feel the $$ pain [BOO HOO]
The Boston Herald ^ | May 7, 2008 | Marie Szaniszlo

Posted on 05/07/2008 10:17:40 AM PDT by Disturbin

The rising price of gas for buses and food for cafeterias is forcing Bay State schools to either pass the cost on to students this fall or cut staff and programs.

“Districts are facing a lot of tough choices as they make their budgets this year,” said J.C. Considine, a spokesman for the state Department of Education. “Everyone agrees kids have to get to school, and it’s essential that kids are properly fed at school. The question is how to pay for those things when the price of gas and food keeps going up.”

In Boston Public Schools - with 56,190 students, the state’s largest school district - the cost of bread alone has increased by 74 percent since last year.

“That’s a huge increase in the cost of one of our staples, and indicative of the challenges we face,” district spokesman Jonathan Palumbo said.

Experts and food industry insiders say food prices are being inflated by rising fuel costs and increased wheat demand in China and India, and U.S. farmers turning to corn instead of wheat to meet a new demand for corn-derived ethanol.

Unlike some suburban school districts, however, districts like Boston and Brockton, where the majority of students come from low-income households, don’t have the option of charging students a transportation fee or significantly raising school lunch prices.

Instead, Boston, for example, is cutting costs by:

• Moving to self-insurance for the school bus fleet.

• Freezing all vacancies except classroom teaching positions.

• Freezing all salary increases except those required by union contracts.

• Restricting most travel, contracted services and other discretionary spending.

• Adopting energy management practices to reduce utility costs.

• Deferring the cost of painting projects and bus-fleet replacement.

Brockton Public Schools - the state’s fourth-largest district, with 15,500 students - has estimated a 5 percent increase in energy costs, amounting to about $300,000, as well as increases in the cost of milk and bread, said spokeswoman Jocelyn Meek.

“For a large district like us, it’s definitely a major concern,” Meek said.

But, like Boston, the district doesn’t see bus fees as an option and has yet to determine lunch prices for the coming school year.

Larry Quinzani, co-owner of Quinzani’s Bakery, which supplies Boston Public Schools with bread, said he will have to charge more next year, although he would not say how much.

In the last nine months, he said, the bakery’s prices for a loaf of bread have risen three times, or 24 percent, because of the rising cost of flour and fuel.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: budget; dough; education; school
Easy solution for the left: continue to make those without kids and/or those who home-school their kids subsidize public education.

"the district doesn’t see bus fees as an option"

Of course not! Who wants to pay for their own ride when you can pass the buck to the taxpayers?

1 posted on 05/07/2008 10:17:41 AM PDT by Disturbin
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To: Disturbin

How about getting rid of public schools all together and privatizing it????


2 posted on 05/07/2008 10:23:39 AM PDT by Havok (MOLON LABE!!!!)
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To: Disturbin
the cost of bread alone has increased by 74 percent since last year.

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In the last nine months, he said, the bakery’s prices for a loaf of bread have risen three times, or 24 percent

What?

3 posted on 05/07/2008 10:25:29 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Et si omnes ego non)
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To: Havok

Sounds good to me!!!


4 posted on 05/07/2008 10:27:28 AM PDT by Disturbin (Liberals: buying votes with your tax dollars)
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To: Disturbin

Let’s see. How many “counselors” do you have on staff? How many layers of administration do you have between the principal and the teachers?


5 posted on 05/07/2008 10:27:40 AM PDT by doodad
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To: Disturbin
amounting to about $300,000

One or two less administrators would probably do it. How many "Vice Principals" and "Directors of Blah di Blah" do you bet they have in this district?

6 posted on 05/07/2008 10:28:23 AM PDT by Mygirlsmom ("My advice: Quit supporting the party that is symbolized by an ass." Ted Nugent)
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To: ClearCase_guy

True. I work part time in the kitchen of a country club and the bakery just gave us similar news. Flour costs mostly. Some restaurants are starting to charge for a bread basket.


7 posted on 05/07/2008 10:31:37 AM PDT by doodad
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To: doodad

My point is that the percentage increase was listed as both 24% and also 74%. I almost think the reporter has sloppy handwriting and couldn’t read her own notes. No question prices have gone up — but consistent data would be a plus.


8 posted on 05/07/2008 10:36:33 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Et si omnes ego non)
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To: Disturbin

More taxes will solve everything...


9 posted on 05/07/2008 10:38:13 AM PDT by bill1952 (I will vote for McCain if he resigns his Senate seat before this election.)
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To: Disturbin

When I was a kid, all the kids in a 4 square block area walked to the one school bus stop. Now it seems that buses stop at every house. I can see that on a busy street with no sidewalks, but schools could save a bunch in transportation costs, fuel and labor, by going back to the old system.
And how much of your time and fuel is wasted if you are unlucky enough to get stuck behind a school bus?


10 posted on 05/07/2008 10:39:09 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ("Don't touch that thing")
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

The kids are so fat they get winded if they have to walk 100ft. Don’t want to make the little darlings tired before their Federally-funded pancakes and syrup breakfast at school.


11 posted on 05/07/2008 10:43:50 AM PDT by CholeraJoe (I follow the Last Time Lord)
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To: Havok
How about getting rid of public schools all together and privatizing it????

And kill all those "good jobs at good wages?" Not a chance! Last year (2007), the average teacher's salary in Boston public schools was over $71,000. You can imagine what the Administrative Hackocracy gets paid. Loads of six figure salaries with two months off a year, accumulating sick time, and fully-funded pensions and disability pay on the taxpayer's dime.

12 posted on 05/07/2008 10:46:17 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh (Politicians cannot buy votes that are not for sale.)
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To: Disturbin
districts like Boston and Brockton, where the majority of students come from low-income households, don’t have the option of charging students a transportation fee or significantly raising school lunch prices.

Yet more evidence that the Left wants to live in a world where market forces are inoperative.

One of these days, Atlas is going to shrug.

13 posted on 05/07/2008 10:47:39 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Et si omnes ego non)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Gotcha. Sorry, after lunch catharsis.


14 posted on 05/07/2008 10:53:10 AM PDT by doodad
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

Our school district stopped allowing the drivers to take buses home a few years ago and have them all at a central depot. Sounds good on the surface if you think about a government employee driving on taxpayer gas to their house. But, when they all erupt at the same time from the depot and have to get to far flung parts of the county during rush hour the gridlock is awful. I leave 15 minutes earlier to avoid the additional 30 if I hit the bus road block.


15 posted on 05/07/2008 10:58:25 AM PDT by doodad
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To: Havok
How about getting rid of public schools all together and privatizing it????

How about de-funding government schools and let all the egg heads figure out how to make them private

16 posted on 05/07/2008 10:59:45 AM PDT by tiger-one (The night has a thousand eyes)
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To: tiger-one

The House of Reprehensibles passed an addition $750,000 for Homosexual Programs on Monday.


17 posted on 05/07/2008 11:01:56 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Never let the facts get in the way of a good story


18 posted on 05/07/2008 11:02:32 AM PDT by Nailbiter
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To: Disturbin

Mass. is a good view of what the rest of America will look like once the liberals convince the majority of voters to elect them.


19 posted on 05/07/2008 11:03:33 AM PDT by caisson71 (Times change, values don't.)
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To: Disturbin

Apparently, Romney’s and Patrick’s calls for illegal immigration have paid off. /s


20 posted on 05/07/2008 11:12:28 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: doodad

How many other bloated government agencies are NOT being threatened with cutbacks?


21 posted on 05/07/2008 11:14:39 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: Disturbin

In the middle 80’s when my husband was transferred to that horrible state on an AF Education with Industry assignment, we moved to the Groton, MA, area and were told that we had to transport our own kids to school as there was no more room on the buses and there would be no more buses.

Had always taken the kids to school so that was no problem but I did ask if we would receive a rebate since we were not allowed to use their transportation. They didn’t think that was funny but it didn’t hurt to ask.

My opinion of education under Dukakis and his wife is not much. Worst education my daughter received in the public schools was that one year in Groton that wasn’t even a full year as we were transferred at the end of May and they went to the middle of June.


22 posted on 05/07/2008 11:46:21 AM PDT by PhiKapMom ( Broken Glass Republican -- http://democratsforsale.blogspot.com/ -- JUST SAY NO to OBAMA)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra
When I was a kid, all the kids in a 4 square block area walked to the one school bus stop.

When I was a kid (in Boston), we walked to school (one school I went to was about a mile away) and brought our own lunch, which we ate at our desks. The school sold those little half-pints of milk, I guess at cost. IIRC, each school had a full-time principal, but the vice-principal was a classroom teacher -- no other administration.

23 posted on 05/07/2008 11:52:21 AM PDT by maryz
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To: Disturbin
I thought there was some court decision a couple of years ago against busing . . . or did that only mean they don't have to??? How much does busing in Boston cost per year?
24 posted on 05/07/2008 11:53:54 AM PDT by maryz
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To: massgopguy
The House of Reprehensibles passed an addition $750,000 for Homosexual Programs on Monday.

I'd be tempted to tell them what they can do with their Homosexual programs but, well, you know.

25 posted on 05/07/2008 11:57:32 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh (Politicians cannot buy votes that are not for sale.)
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To: Havok
How about getting rid of public schools all together and privatizing it????

I was very active in the MA school voucher movement ten years ago. Back then, the per-pupil expenditure in Boston was $10k/student. I can't imagine what it is now.

One reason for this outrageous cost is teacher union salaries (twice that of private, i.e., Catholic, schools). Another reason is administrative overhead. Typically, city gov't schools have 100 times as many administrators as Catholic schools. A Catholic archdiocese might have 4 or 5 administrators, in comparison to 4-500 administrators for gov't schools.

To make matters worse is the fact that the schools teach a smorgasbord of worthless PC dogma, they can't deliver the three R's, and they prohibit the free exercise of religion by forcing the children of religious parents into "God-free zones" for 6 hours per day. Finally and ultimately, any form of education that purports to prepare children for life, yet ignores the final end of human life, eternal life with God, is not true education at all, but child abuse.

The whole contemptible system should be abandoned and replaced by just about anything else, vouchers being the obvious, but union-hated solution. The system does more harm than good. Future generations will look back at 20th century gov't schooling the way we look back at the dark, satanic mills of the 19th century.

26 posted on 05/07/2008 12:12:27 PM PDT by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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To: Disturbin
Some of the female teachers can pimp themselves out to the boys in school for charity reasons instead of the selfish can't find a normal man reasons we have been seeing across the nation. (sarc)
27 posted on 05/07/2008 12:24:41 PM PDT by Siberian-psycho (An oppressed class which did not try to possess arms, would deserve to be treated as slaves." Lenin)
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To: Disturbin

“and it’s essential that kids are properly fed at school.”

That is mom and dad’s job.


28 posted on 05/07/2008 12:26:53 PM PDT by Marie2 (I used to be disgusted. . .now I try to be amused.)
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