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Frank talk about teens and sex
WTNH Television ^ | 5/7/08 | Puppage

Posted on 05/07/2008 8:01:45 AM PDT by Puppage

New Haven (WTNH) _ Sex. It's everywhere. Online, on the radio, on TV and on the minds of your children.

"I don't think oral sex is real sex," said Georgia Wetmore of New Haven, a peer educator who works with Planned Parenthood of New Haven. "I think most teens believe that."

"As long as you don't let yourself out more, to get yourself a name as a slut or a dog or something, you're cool," said Domenia Dickey of New Haven, another peer educator.

"We're still learning. We're still curious. We have hormones," Georgia Wetmore, another peer educator, said. "I think it's normal to want to have sex and to be curious about sex."

But is curiousity infecting the cat? Yes. A 2008 study from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention shows one in four girls aged 10-24 have an STD, or sexually transmitted disease.

"I think what is a little bit staggering is we're starting to see the onset of sexual activity a little bit earlier," said Pierrete Silverman from Planned Parenthood. "So maybe a behavior that may have been whe I was growing up, a behavior we might have done when we were 17 and 18 now actually happening at an earlier age. And I think that that's the piece that people are starting to really react to."

According to a 2005 report from the Connecticut Department of Public Health, an estimated 80,000 Connecticut high school students report they have had sexual intercourse, and nearly 80 percent had sexual intercourse for the first time between the ages of 13 and 16.

Plus, Generaton-Y is getting creative. The 'Snap Game' involves wearing muti-colored plastic bracelets. You know, the ones made popular by the original trendsetter Madonna. They're now worn to show how far a teen will go in the bedroom.

And those metal soda tabs? Domenia Dickey explains. "The little thing you click open, like to open a can of soda. Some come in colors or whatever. You put them on your neck and it represent, like, how many time you done this, or how many time you done that, or how far you will go."

"I see a lot of beads and they not doing it correctly," Kevin Zollarcoffer of New Haven said.

That's right -- sex beads and fifteen-year-olds. Used by adults as a sex toy, they're now another risky trend peer educators say teens are engaging in too young.

"The media contradicts itself, but it tries to help the situation," Dickey said. "I don't think you can blame it all around media, because if you're a smart kid you're not going to believe everything you see. You're gonna research into it and find out more."

When it comes to curbing sex at a young age it's believed real talk with parents will reap real results.

"If their parents don't step up and tell their children from right and wrong, they might want to go to the media to find the things out," Zollarcoffer said.

According to sex educators it's all in the parent's approach.

"We make the mistake of thinking that the sex conversation is one conversation, and that you harness your child in the car and you drive them somewhere for a long car ride and you give them the talk between exit 8 and exit 9, and the reality is that it's really a lifelong conversation," Pierrete Silverman said.

"Teens are a lot smarter than you think," Georgia Wetmore said. "All they need is information and good decisions will come after that."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; US: Connecticut
KEYWORDS: abortion; antiabstinence; culturewar; domeniadickey; georgiawetmore; hedonism; peereducators; pierretesilverman; plannedparenthood; sexeducation; sexpositiveagenda; sexualizingchildren
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"I don't think oral sex is real sex," said Georgia Wetmore of New Haven, a peer educator who works with Planned Parenthood of New Haven. "I think most teens believe that."

Yeah, great educator

1 posted on 05/07/2008 8:01:47 AM PDT by Puppage
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To: Puppage

“I don’t think oral sex is real sex.”

I see. So, what it is then? A really enthusiastic greeting?


2 posted on 05/07/2008 8:04:37 AM PDT by RexBeach
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To: Puppage

About the only thing that the Clinton Administration will be remembered for.

Remember, these are the same people that consider partial birth abortion NOT to be murder.


3 posted on 05/07/2008 8:05:17 AM PDT by whitedog57
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To: Puppage
"I don't think oral sex is real sex,"

If it's something that you would get bent out of shape seeing your wife do to another guy, then it probably is real sex.

4 posted on 05/07/2008 8:05:20 AM PDT by krb (If you're not outraged, people probably like having you around.)
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To: Puppage

“Teens are a lot smarter than you think,” Georgia Wetmore said. “All they need is information and good decisions will come after that.”

Oh my God. What a drooling buffoon.


5 posted on 05/07/2008 8:05:25 AM PDT by L98Fiero (A fool who'll waste his life, God rest his guts.)
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To: Puppage

Speaking from personal experience, the ones who don’t believe that are ostracized losers.


6 posted on 05/07/2008 8:05:45 AM PDT by messierhunter
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To: Puppage

“I don’t think oral sex is real sex,” said Georgia Wetmore of New Haven..”

Awesome. Then you won’t mind dropping to your knees. /ziiip


7 posted on 05/07/2008 8:06:32 AM PDT by L98Fiero (A fool who'll waste his life, God rest his guts.)
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“Plus, Generaton-Y is getting creative. The ‘Snap Game’ involves wearing muti-colored plastic bracelets. You know, the ones made popular by the original trendsetter Madonna. They’re now worn to show how far a teen will go in the bedroom.

And those metal soda tabs? Domenia Dickey explains. “The little thing you click open, like to open a can of soda. Some come in colors or whatever. You put them on your neck and it represent, like, how many time you done this, or how many time you done that, or how far you will go.””

Pretty much an urban myth. That’s not to say that it’s never happened in small circles, but we’re not talking a national trend.


8 posted on 05/07/2008 8:09:05 AM PDT by gracesdad
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To: Puppage
Compare and contrast these two quotes:

"I don't think oral sex is real sex," said Georgia Wetmore of New Haven, a peer educator who works with Planned Parenthood of New Haven. "I think most teens believe that."

"Teens are a lot smarter than you think," Georgia Wetmore said. "All they need is information and good decisions will come after that."

First, she says that teens don't think oral sex is real sex, and then she says teens are a lot smarter than people think. Ah, the hubris of youth. Anyone doubt that in 10-15 years, when Georgia is married, and her husband comes home and tells her he just got lewinskied by a chick at work, Georgia will not think "it's not sex?"

9 posted on 05/07/2008 8:09:12 AM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: Puppage
"I don't think oral sex is real sex," said Georgia Wetmore of New Haven, a peer educator who works with Planned Parenthood of New Haven. "I think most teens believe that."

Idiot - simply too stupid to take a breath.

Well, honey, if "it's not sex" then why can one get sexually transmitted diseases from it - oh and by the way, there's no cure!

Useful idiots continue to rise to the top, as it were.

10 posted on 05/07/2008 8:09:51 AM PDT by zerosix (native sunflower)
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To: whitedog57

“About the only thing that the Clinton Administration will be remembered for.”

I knew girls in the 1970s who didn’t believe oral sex was officially “sex.” Same with handjobs or even dry humping. I didn’t realize they had gotten this notion from Clinton way back then.


11 posted on 05/07/2008 8:12:01 AM PDT by gracesdad
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To: Puppage
Frank talk about teens and sex

Whoopsie.

12 posted on 05/07/2008 8:12:34 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: Puppage
"I don't think oral sex is real sex," said Georgia Wetmore of New Haven, a peer educator who works with Planned Parenthood of New Haven.

So Mr. Wetmore can go get hummers morning, noon, and night and she won't be bothered because hey, it's not sex.

But this is from the same people who say a fetus isn't a baby, affirmative action isn't discrimination, and cold weather is one of the effects of global warming.

13 posted on 05/07/2008 8:12:49 AM PDT by Lizavetta
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To: gracesdad

“Pretty much an urban myth.”

A 30-year old one at that. I knew this article was written by children when they though that myth was either real or new. But they are “educating” the children of CT about sex.


14 posted on 05/07/2008 8:12:50 AM PDT by L98Fiero (A fool who'll waste his life, God rest his guts.)
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To: RexBeach

“I see. So, what it is then? A really enthusiastic greeting?”

wouldnt that be something
“hi nice to meet ya” *drop pants*


15 posted on 05/07/2008 8:12:53 AM PDT by DM1
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To: gracesdad

“I knew girls in the 1970s who didn’t believe oral sex was officially “sex.” Same with handjobs or even dry humping.”

You possibly knew girls who used that rationale to excuse their sluttiness.

That was not at all a common theme among girls in the 70’s as it has been since Clinton’s famous remarks.


16 posted on 05/07/2008 8:16:54 AM PDT by L98Fiero (A fool who'll waste his life, God rest his guts.)
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To: martin_fierro

"It may not look like it...but my butt is sore."

17 posted on 05/07/2008 8:17:44 AM PDT by jetson
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To: krb
And if it's not something you'd get bent out of shape watching your wife do it with another guy, you should immediately run for political office. It's where most of those types hang out.

RIP Chandra Levy

18 posted on 05/07/2008 8:18:40 AM PDT by blackdog
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To: gracesdad

You must of hung around with a really slutty crowd of girls. As a female getting ready to turn 51, not a single girl I knew growing up didn’t think oral sex was sex. In fact, I believe they thought it was worse than having regular sex.


19 posted on 05/07/2008 8:18:47 AM PDT by beandog (Quit serving me mud and telling me it's chocolate pie.)
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To: Puppage
Because teens get so much of their information from their peers, and are so heavily influenced by their peers, I don't think many of the sort of "superstrict" parenting approaches often taken by very socially conservative parents are likely to be effective.

The most important thing a parent can do in helping teens learn about sex is to teach them to respect themselves, to have sound overall values, and to concentrate on real accomplishments, be it in academics, sports or otherwise. And to be good parents in the sense of providing a wholesome environment and example.

Our now adult daughters thank us today both for being reasonably strict (but not overly so) and for showing them by example what good choices and behavior are.

20 posted on 05/07/2008 8:19:55 AM PDT by CatoRenasci (Ceterum Censeo Arabiam Esse Delendam -- Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit)
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To: Puppage
"Teens are a lot smarter than you think," Georgia Wetmore said

In genenral, I would agree. But using Georgia as a specific example, I would say that she's dumber than I expect.

21 posted on 05/07/2008 8:20:17 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Et si omnes ego non)
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To: Puppage

This is like the “much-needed” national discussion on race....How many frank talks about sex do we need to have? IMO we need a frank talk about SELF-CONTROL.


22 posted on 05/07/2008 8:22:26 AM PDT by opus86
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To: L98Fiero
That was not at all a common theme among girls in the 70’s as it has been since Clinton’s famous remarks.

I completely agree. It wasn't that long ago when girls wanted to maintain a good reputation, and had certain standards and expectations about what constituted proper behavior. The current era of emotionless "hookups" is a new thing.

23 posted on 05/07/2008 8:23:23 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Et si omnes ego non)
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To: RexBeach
"I don't think oral sex is real sex," said Georgia Wetmore of New Haven, a peer educator who works with Planned Parenthood of New Haven and graduated from the Bill Clinton School of Sexual Education. "I think most teens believe that."

There, I fixed it.

24 posted on 05/07/2008 8:24:06 AM PDT by Long Island Pete
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To: jetson
Barney Frank no longer has that problem.........

Botox is the gay man's best friend.

25 posted on 05/07/2008 8:25:42 AM PDT by blackdog
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To: opus86

>>IMO we need a frank talk about SELF-CONTROL.<<

Oh Lord, thank you from the bottom of my heart!!!!!
Spot on!


26 posted on 05/07/2008 8:28:30 AM PDT by netmilsmom (I am very mad at Disney. Give me my James Marsden song!!!!!)
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To: gracesdad

I knew girls in the 1970s who didn’t believe oral sex was officially “sex.” Same with handjobs or even dry humping. I didn’t realize they had gotten this notion from Clinton way back then.
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I wonder where all these people were in the 70’s and 80’s that think Clinton invented oral sex, and was the first person to popularize the notion that it wasn’t ‘real’ sex.

For girls it was simple, it wasn’t sex because they could still truthfully say that they had never had intercourse and were still virgins. And let’s face it, we male humans beings really didn’t analyze the situation too deeply, because we were still being, uh, serviced.

For many, it is an article of faith that the decline of the western world is almost entirely on Bill’s back. Friends, he was symptomatic of the changes already well in place, not even close to being the cause.


27 posted on 05/07/2008 8:28:32 AM PDT by dmz
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To: opus86
"frank talk about SELF-CONTROL?"

That could be a problem....since so many parents (and politicians) don't know the meaning of the word....but, I agree with you.

28 posted on 05/07/2008 8:30:01 AM PDT by goodnesswins (20 is the new 10)
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To: Puppage

WTF?? These are teachers??!!


29 posted on 05/07/2008 8:30:16 AM PDT by cardinal4
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To: Puppage
A 2008 study from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention shows one in four girls aged 10-24 have an STD, or sexually transmitted disease.

If I remember right, this study was *very* biased. The sample consisted of teens taken from 10 ZipCodes in InnerCity Cleveland.

Bodes poorly for Cleveland, but represenative of the entire country? Hardly.

30 posted on 05/07/2008 8:30:52 AM PDT by wbill
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To: Puppage

One thing I will always regret but did not regret at the time was having sex at an early age (16th Bday)did not get married till 24 I was not a whoredog and kept my reputation per say but premarital sex in my opinion is wrong.. I regret it now because my son is getting ready to turn 11 that is only 5 years away. THAT IS YOUNG. But I can’t change it so best thing to do is make sure he does not do the same.


31 posted on 05/07/2008 8:32:51 AM PDT by JackDanielsOldNo7 (On guard until the seal is broken)
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To: CatoRenasci
Our now adult daughters thank us today both for being reasonably strict (but not overly so) and for showing them by example what good choices and behavior are

There is no substitute for good parenting. I see to many parents try & be their kids friends. That comes later. My Dad & I were always at odds, but now at 46 & he at 78, we are certainly the best of friends.

It's amazing how much he's learned in that time. :-)

32 posted on 05/07/2008 8:34:05 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: krb
If it's something that you would get bent out of shape seeing your wife do to another guy, then it probably is real sex.

Like in Pulp Fiction, Marcellus tosses the guy off a balcony for a foot rub. Vincent and the other hitman are talking about it, and Vincent says it is in the ballpark. Would you give a guy a foot rub? etc.

33 posted on 05/07/2008 8:34:38 AM PDT by sharkhawk (Here come the Hawks)
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To: JackDanielsOldNo7

“Frank Talk About Teens And Sex”

Frank said all that?

Well, shame on Frank!


34 posted on 05/07/2008 8:35:38 AM PDT by zeestephen
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To: krb

OUCH! Short and to the point.

I agree, of course.


35 posted on 05/07/2008 8:39:38 AM PDT by cvq3842
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To: goodnesswins

Excellent point, and it shows up in a variety of other ways, notably personal finances (e.g. this latest mortgage debacle).


36 posted on 05/07/2008 8:41:19 AM PDT by opus86
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To: Puppage

“peer educator”. Now the “street” has a name for teaching your children liberal myths about sex.


37 posted on 05/07/2008 8:43:12 AM PDT by weegee ("I didn't kill innocent people." - Bill Ayers, Weatherman. Terrorist. Obama's comrade.)
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To: sharkhawk

Can an adult and a minor legally do it together? If not, it’s sex.


38 posted on 05/07/2008 8:44:33 AM PDT by weegee ("I didn't kill innocent people." - Bill Ayers, Weatherman. Terrorist. Obama's comrade.)
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To: dmz
I was in my teen years during the 70's with exact precision. I had more sexual activity with more girls in more places than my wildest present era fantasy could ever scour up. There were a few rules.

You never spoke about it with anyone else.

You never embarassed anyone you were with in any way, ever.

You never pressured anyone into doing anything.

If you stuck to those rules in the 70's, you were a very busy youngster.

39 posted on 05/07/2008 8:46:55 AM PDT by blackdog
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To: zerosix

It’s not sex because Planned Parenthood can’t sell them an abortion to “fix” their “little punishment”.


40 posted on 05/07/2008 8:47:49 AM PDT by weegee ("I didn't kill innocent people." - Bill Ayers, Weatherman. Terrorist. Obama's comrade.)
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To: Puppage

Honestly, I don’t trust anyone who talks about ‘snap bracelets’ or the soda tab thing as having accurate information on what teens are up to sexually. Sure, when I was in high school I knew kids who wore the snap bracelets and the soda-top-liner bracelets, but they either did it to collect and trade them, or to look like they were sexually active. I never actually knew anyone, sexually active or otherwise, who actually used them like all these ‘experts’ claim they did. The same can be said for the colored can tab necklaces - they really only serve as a count of which different flavors of Monster the person wearing them has consumed.


41 posted on 05/07/2008 8:48:50 AM PDT by Hyzenthlay (I aim to misbehave.)
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To: Puppage

“Peer educators” were what they had in “Lord of the Flies.”


42 posted on 05/07/2008 8:51:44 AM PDT by lady lawyer
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To: Puppage
Umm...Georgia Who said that?
43 posted on 05/07/2008 8:54:21 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh (Politicians cannot buy votes that are not for sale.)
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To: opus86
Americans are so convinced that their children and young adults must conform to a perpetual adolescent state until they are 25 or join the armed forces. I just don't get it?

Kids mature with wildly different clocks. No set of rules, laws, or social norms fits all. Make sure you know your kids well enough that you can discuss anything with them. Treat all their interests, desires, and explorations with respect for who they are and what their actions or inactions may bring them to be. Make sure that if their adult interests are on deck, they are also comfortable with the adult responsibilities that go with those adult pleasures.

44 posted on 05/07/2008 9:01:39 AM PDT by blackdog
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To: whitedog57

I think people knew about this, and believed the same, way before Clinton.


45 posted on 05/07/2008 9:03:55 AM PDT by stuartcr (Election year.....Who we gonna hate, in '08?)
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To: L98Fiero

Exactly what I thought when I read that statement.


46 posted on 05/07/2008 9:08:08 AM PDT by rlmorel (Clinging bitterly to Guns and God in Massachusetts...:)
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To: stuartcr

“Your mouth doesn’t get pregnant” - Tina Fey, on Saturday Night Live newscast editorial.


47 posted on 05/07/2008 9:13:23 AM PDT by blackdog
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To: krb

I wouldn’t want to see my wife rob a bank, murder someone, kiss another man, get hit by a truck and many more things, but they’re certainly not sex.


48 posted on 05/07/2008 9:13:32 AM PDT by stuartcr (Election year.....Who we gonna hate, in '08?)
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To: weegee

Neither is drinking alcohol or robbing a bank...


49 posted on 05/07/2008 9:15:30 AM PDT by stuartcr (Election year.....Who we gonna hate, in '08?)
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To: blackdog

I believe that’s something we will all have to agree with.


50 posted on 05/07/2008 9:17:41 AM PDT by stuartcr (Election year.....Who we gonna hate, in '08?)
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