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Driver sues owners of dog that struck his car near Cloquet
Associated Press ^ | May 7, 2008 | AP

Posted on 05/07/2008 6:37:34 AM PDT by Dan Nunn

DULUTH, Minn. - The driver of a 1997 Honda Civic that struck and killed a dog near Cloquet is suing the dog's owners for damage done to his vehicle.

Jeffery Ely was driving on the night of Jan. 4 when Fester, a miniature pinscher, squeezed past owner Nikki Munthe as she was letting in her other dog and ran out onto the road. Ely's car struck Fester, killing the 13-pound dog instantly.

Now Ely is suing the Munthes for about $1,100 for damage to his car, time he had to take off from his two jobs to get the car repaired, and court fees.

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Stories like this make my stomach turn.
1 posted on 05/07/2008 6:37:34 AM PDT by Dan Nunn
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To: holdonnow

Ping


2 posted on 05/07/2008 6:38:24 AM PDT by Dan Nunn
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To: Dan Nunn

A 13 pound dog does $1,100 in damages?! Me thinks Jeffery Ely needs to just man up, file an insurance claim and move on.


3 posted on 05/07/2008 6:39:13 AM PDT by mgc1122
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To: mgc1122
This makes me want to bring back the stocks. Anyone who wastes the courts time and further traumatizes the dogs owners. Jerk.
4 posted on 05/07/2008 6:41:22 AM PDT by benjamin032
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To: mgc1122
A 13 pound dog does $1,100 in damages?!

I can see it.

5 posted on 05/07/2008 6:43:45 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

A 13-lb. rock can do a lot of damage.


6 posted on 05/07/2008 6:44:46 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Yes, but how does that help?)
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To: Dan Nunn

This isn’t about the dog, it’s about the owner.


7 posted on 05/07/2008 6:45:19 AM PDT by Beelzebubba (Guns don’t kill people, criminals and the governments that create them do.)
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To: Dan Nunn
when Fester, a miniature pinscher, squeezed past owner Nikki Munthe as she was letting in her other dog and ran out onto the road.

Why does she let her other roam around in the front yard? As far as the damages to the car, he must have been going pretty fast that a 13 pound dog made it possible for the bumer to have gone through the radiator.

8 posted on 05/07/2008 6:45:38 AM PDT by Long Island Pete
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To: mgc1122; 1rudeboy

$1100 in damages is very easy to do, especially on a Honda. I’m surprised it wasn’t more. But more to the point, if the dog was a cow that got out and destroyed some property, would he not be entitled to damages?...................


9 posted on 05/07/2008 6:46:09 AM PDT by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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To: Tax-chick

Exactly. Toss a 13 pound watermelon at a car moving down the road, say at 30 mph, and you have the makings of a real expensive accident......


10 posted on 05/07/2008 6:47:50 AM PDT by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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To: Dan Nunn

I’m glad the owners of the dog are countersuing him. I hope they win.


11 posted on 05/07/2008 6:53:13 AM PDT by Cecily
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To: Tax-chick

“A 13-lb. rock can do a lot of damage.”

What about a 13-pound goose-down pillow? I hit a 40 pound traffic barrel and it didn’t scratch my car.

Maybe densidty and mass might have something to do with it.


12 posted on 05/07/2008 6:53:24 AM PDT by L98Fiero (A fool who'll waste his life, God rest his guts.)
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To: Red Badger
Toss a 13 pound watermelon at a car moving down the road, say at 30 mph, and you have the makings of a real expensive accident......

Probably not to my van, unless you hit the windshield, but definitely to a little car.

I don't know if this guy really has the damage, but if he does, there's something to be said for the dog owner's being liable. It's her responsibility to keep her pets from harming people or property.

13 posted on 05/07/2008 6:53:37 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Yes, but how does that help?)
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To: L98Fiero
Maybe density and mass might have something to do with it.

I'm sure that's true. I haven't hit anything recently except my lawnmower.

14 posted on 05/07/2008 6:54:43 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Yes, but how does that help?)
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To: Tax-chick

“I haven’t hit anything recently except my lawnmower.”

Ouch. A two-fer. Gotta fix the car AND the mower. :(


15 posted on 05/07/2008 6:57:58 AM PDT by L98Fiero (A fool who'll waste his life, God rest his guts.)
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To: Dan Nunn
Stories like this make my stomach turn.

Yeah, me too. I can't stand irresponsible pet owners.

16 posted on 05/07/2008 6:58:27 AM PDT by Drew68
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To: L98Fiero

Low-speed impact. The car just had a scratch on the bumper, and my son straightened up the mower :-).


17 posted on 05/07/2008 6:59:09 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Yes, but how does that help?)
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To: benjamin032
further traumatizes the dogs owners

I guess it wouldn't occur to you that the driver of the car might be "traumatized" too about killing the dog. I know I wouldn't feel good about hitting a dog.

ML/NJ

18 posted on 05/07/2008 6:59:30 AM PDT by ml/nj
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To: Tax-chick

Exactly right. My home owner’s insurance will not cover any damages my dogs do.

A friend of mine had a conversion van with one of those air dams on the front that went practically down to the ground. He hit a armadillo on the interstate and there was a perfectly shaped silhouette of an armadillo right in the middle of the front of his van.........IIRC, it was nearly $1000 damages.......in 1979!...........


19 posted on 05/07/2008 7:00:25 AM PDT by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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To: Beelzebubba
This isn’t about the dog, it’s about the owner.

Dogs sneak out sometimes, even with the most careful of owners.

Sorry for the guy's car, but I have no respect for someone who is doing what he did in these circumstances. I hope he loses.

20 posted on 05/07/2008 7:00:26 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall cause you to vote against the Democrats.)
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To: ml/nj
I guess it wouldn't occur to you that the driver of the car might be "traumatized" too about killing the dog.

Yeah, right. That's why he's suing the owners for damage to his 11 year old car.

:::rolls eyes:::

21 posted on 05/07/2008 7:02:21 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall cause you to vote against the Democrats.)
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To: Red Badger
My home owner’s insurance will not cover any damages my dogs do.

Really? I've never owned a dog, so I hadn't considered the coverage. I assumed it would be covered, when reading this story.

An armadillo would be like hitting that 13 lb. rock!

22 posted on 05/07/2008 7:03:11 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Yes, but how does that help?)
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To: Cecily

They are going to lose.


23 posted on 05/07/2008 7:03:53 AM PDT by QQQQ
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To: MEGoody
Sorry for the guy's car, but I have no respect for someone who is doing what he did in these circumstances. I hope he loses.

If he had been jogging instead of driving, and the dog rushed out and bit him, causing $1100 worth of medical bills, would you feel the same?......

24 posted on 05/07/2008 7:04:07 AM PDT by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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To: Dan Nunn

The owner is responsible for the damages done by his animal. Grit your teeth, pay the bill, and move on.

The simple way to avoid such liability is to not have a dog. To me, they are worth the price, and I will pay for the damage they might do.


25 posted on 05/07/2008 7:04:11 AM PDT by gridlock (The natural state of the world is Darfur. The freakish aberration is America - - Ann Coulter)
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To: L98Fiero

“I haven’t hit anything recently except my lawnmower.”

Why were you driving through the yard and which kid was mowing?


26 posted on 05/07/2008 7:05:34 AM PDT by Rebelbase (Carbon is the fifth most abundant element on the planet.)
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To: Red Badger
He hit a armadillo on the interstate and there was a perfectly shaped silhouette of an armadillo right in the middle of the front of his van.........IIRC, it was nearly $1000 damages.......in 1979.

Why would your repair such a thing. Just reinforce the edge from the back, maybe pick it out with a little pinstriping, and drive with pride!

It's not a bug, it's a feature!

27 posted on 05/07/2008 7:07:01 AM PDT by gridlock (The natural state of the world is Darfur. The freakish aberration is America - - Ann Coulter)
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To: Red Badger

When my son and I were walking home from the poll last night, a dog owner let a yellow lab the size of a bear out of the garage. It rushed up to us, gasped, and then collapsed and started licking my son’s feet. The owner kept saying, “Don’t worry! He won’t hurt you!” while the obese animal sighed and slobbered on Tom’s toes.

That said, I don’t like dogs that bark and chase me when I’m running. My cats never do that to anyone.


28 posted on 05/07/2008 7:07:43 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Yes, but how does that help?)
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To: Tax-chick
An armadillo would be like hitting that 13 lb. rock!

Yes they are compact and hard as a rock! And nearly as smart.... As for insurance, my "old" Allstate policy did cover pet damages, but when they dropped us, after 25 years and NO claims, because of the hurricanes in '04-'05, we had to go with a "cut rate" insurance company (as many here in Florida had to do) and they don't cover animals..........

29 posted on 05/07/2008 7:07:46 AM PDT by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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To: Rebelbase

That was me. I was putting the Purple Thing in the garage.


30 posted on 05/07/2008 7:08:29 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Yes, but how does that help?)
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To: MEGoody

Why is HE suing the owners? File the claim with his insurance company, get his car fixed, and let the insurance lawyers file a suit to reclaim the damages. That is one great reason for having insurance coverage, you get lawyers just waiting to sue someone.

Now, if the driver doesn’t have insurance, why is he allowed to drive?


31 posted on 05/07/2008 7:09:02 AM PDT by burroak
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To: Tax-chick

“An armadillo would be like hitting that 13 lb. rock! “

Nah, they splatter real good. I remember driving with my parents once through a newly opened section of interstate highway in Louisiana one morning. The amount of armadillo road kills in a two mile stretch looked like Omaha Beach on D-Day.


32 posted on 05/07/2008 7:10:05 AM PDT by Rebelbase (Carbon is the fifth most abundant element on the planet.)
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To: Red Badger
But more to the point, if the dog was a cow that got out and destroyed some property, would he not be entitled to damages?

About 600 (probably more) years of common law legal tradition says yes.

33 posted on 05/07/2008 7:11:31 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Rebelbase

Maybe it depends on what you’re driving.


34 posted on 05/07/2008 7:12:00 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Yes, but how does that help?)
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To: gridlock
The owner is responsible for the damages done by his animal.

I love my dog but I would understand completely if I was held responsible to any damage he did to someone else's property. If I did not know this was Freerepublic I would think I was on a Democratic Underground thread. I though one of the main things people who post here have in common is their respect for individual responsibility.

35 posted on 05/07/2008 7:13:30 AM PDT by Zevonismymuse
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if the driver doesn’t have insurance, why is he allowed to drive?

Hello??

Most States requite liability insurance. None require collision/comprehensive. Getting ones own insurance company involved is like asking them to raise your rates.

ML/NJ

36 posted on 05/07/2008 7:14:58 AM PDT by ml/nj
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To: Dan Nunn

Ranchers know that they will be held liable if their animals wander into traffic. This is old and established law.

Don’t know why it would be different for loose pets.


37 posted on 05/07/2008 7:16:30 AM PDT by Jedidah
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To: Rebelbase
My neighbors had a large dog that was out running loose a lot. The dog also had an obsession with moving cars; it would run right at our tires.

I always said that if I ever hit the dog, I was going to sue them for the damage.

38 posted on 05/07/2008 7:17:18 AM PDT by Dianna
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To: Dan Nunn
I am a dog owner and lover and in this case I think they owners are responsible for damages however I do question the claim by this man on the amount of damage..... IMO he is looking to get some pre existing problems fixed
39 posted on 05/07/2008 7:17:20 AM PDT by Kimmers
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To: burroak

That is an EXCELLENT question, sir.


40 posted on 05/07/2008 7:18:10 AM PDT by Arkansas Toothpick
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To: burroak
Why is HE suing the owners? File the claim with his insurance company, get his car fixed, and let the insurance lawyers file a suit to reclaim the damages. That is one great reason for having insurance coverage, you get lawyers just waiting to sue someone.

Now, if the driver doesn’t have insurance, why is he allowed to drive?

If he's driving an older car that's paid off then it is possible he only has the minimum liability insurance that's required by law. This won't pay for damage done to his vehicle. This isn't unusual.

More importantly, why should this guy just suck it up and eat $1,100 bucks worth of damage done to his vehicle and lost wages for something that wasn't his fault?

I feel bad these folks lost their dog but they should have been more responsible. They should pay up.

41 posted on 05/07/2008 7:18:47 AM PDT by Drew68
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To: Dan Nunn

The dog should not have been on the road, the car should have. The dog owners are responsible.

Now if the dog were on a leash on the sidewalk and the guy ran it over, he would not have an argument.

Dogs do not belong in the road, and it’s the owners fault that it was and their dog damaged someone’s property because the dog owner’s carelessness made the street unsafe for motorists.

Dog lovers think that dogs can do no wrong.
In this case, the dog owner is responsible for keeping the dog off of thoroughfares used by motorists. The owner was incompetent and should pay for damage their neglect and carelessness caused.


42 posted on 05/07/2008 7:19:47 AM PDT by Bon mots
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To: ml/nj
So he traumatized and drags the dog owner into court for financial relief ?
43 posted on 05/07/2008 7:20:10 AM PDT by ncalburt
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To: Dan Nunn
First, note that the $1,100 includes time taken off from two jobs.

Second, note that this report is from yankeeland.

44 posted on 05/07/2008 7:20:47 AM PDT by HIDEK6
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To: Dan Nunn

I’m not for suing, but I would. The driver of the car is out maybe $500 for his deductible. Why should he have to pay for his deductible and possibly get his insurance premiums hiked because some dog owner can’t keep his dog in check?


45 posted on 05/07/2008 7:20:59 AM PDT by caver (Yes, I did crawl out of a hole in the ground.)
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To: Tax-chick

My Lab would lick you to death and probably help the burglars tote our stuff to their vehicle....................


46 posted on 05/07/2008 7:22:37 AM PDT by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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To: Kimmers
however I do question the claim by this man on the amount of damage..... IMO he is looking to get some pre existing problems fixed

Have you ever worked in the auto repair industry? $1,100 ain't nothing. A damaged bumper, radiator, parts and labor --not to mention the two days of missed work and court fees could easily add up to $1,100. If you ask me, the guy's being generous.

47 posted on 05/07/2008 7:22:46 AM PDT by Drew68
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To: gridlock
Why would your repair such a thing

Remember, this was back during the Chevy Van craze. He was totally PO'd.............

48 posted on 05/07/2008 7:25:02 AM PDT by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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To: Dan Nunn

Is he suing, or is the insurance company suing in his name?


49 posted on 05/07/2008 7:25:22 AM PDT by ikka
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To: Dan Nunn

My elderly neighbor was hit by a car crossing the street in front of our apartment building. The man who hit him sent my neighbor a certified letter requesting payment for the damage to his automobile. The old man has been in the hospital since it happened.


50 posted on 05/07/2008 7:27:41 AM PDT by My hearts in London - Everett (I'd rather be single than wish I was.)
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