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Mayors Want To Turn Florida Into Two States
CBS4.com ^ | 5/6/2008 | CBS4

Posted on 05/06/2008 11:42:12 AM PDT by RepublitarianRoger2

The City of North Lauderdale is taking a tough stance on home rule, and because of this they are spearheading an effort to split Florida into two states. They have passed a resolution, asking that a boundary line to split South Florida from the rest of the state be drawn at the Palm Beach County line. They're taking it so seriously that they want counties in South Florida, such as Miami-Dade, Broward, and Monroe to join in supporting them.

CBS4 viewers responded enthusiastically, and often humorously, when asked to submit a motto for the new state of South Florida.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: florida; separation; state
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I suggested the motto: "North Cuba"
1 posted on 05/06/2008 11:42:12 AM PDT by RepublitarianRoger2
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To: RepublitarianRoger2

As goofy as this sounds, there is some merit to it. North Florida is to South Florida, as Georgia is to New York.


2 posted on 05/06/2008 11:43:53 AM PDT by Paradox (Politics: The art of convincing the populace that your delusions are superior to others.)
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To: RepublitarianRoger2

Florida... that’s America’s wang.


3 posted on 05/06/2008 11:45:26 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: RepublitarianRoger2

I’LL VOTE FOR IT!!!!!..............


4 posted on 05/06/2008 11:45:29 AM PDT by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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To: RepublitarianRoger2

Actually, Florida has been two states for a long time...


5 posted on 05/06/2008 11:45:42 AM PDT by Prov1322 (Enjoy my wife's incredible artwork at www.watercolorARTwork.com! (This space no longer for rent))
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To: RepublitarianRoger2
Great! Two more RATS in the Senate.Then we can make DC a state,split CA in two and make Boston and Cambridge a state and the Senate will be bleeped into the 23rd Century.
6 posted on 05/06/2008 11:46:15 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Women swooned in Mao's presence too.)
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To: RepublitarianRoger2

The quad-county area practically is a separate country anyway...


7 posted on 05/06/2008 11:46:24 AM PDT by Terpfen (Romney's loss in Florida is STILL a catastrophe. Hello, McCandidate!)
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To: RepublitarianRoger2

We keep FSU, UCF and UF, they get Miami Hurricanes......


8 posted on 05/06/2008 11:46:45 AM PDT by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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To: Paradox
North Florida is to South Florida, as Georgia is to New York.

For a while yet at least. The retirees and urban sprawl is creeping ever northward. It is only a matter of time.
9 posted on 05/06/2008 11:47:16 AM PDT by contemplator (Capitalism gets no Rock Concerts)
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To: RepublitarianRoger2
The City of North Lauderdale is taking a tough stance on home rule, and because of this they are spearheading an effort to split Florida into two states. They have passed a resolution, asking that a boundary line to split South Florida from the rest of the state be drawn at the Palm Beach County line. They're taking it so seriously that they want counties in South Florida, such as Miami-Dade, Broward, and Monroe to join in supporting them.

Congress' and the State Legislature's consent are needed for this. If they think a democrat owned Congress is going to go for this, they are smoking crack.

10 posted on 05/06/2008 11:47:46 AM PDT by Centurion2000 (Party ahead of principles; eventually you'll be selling out anything to anyone for the right price.)
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To: RepublitarianRoger2

two states, sure. florida and floriDUH!


11 posted on 05/06/2008 11:48:16 AM PDT by camle (keep an open mind and someone will fill it full of something for you)
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To: Prov1322

From West Palm Beach to Key West and across to Fort Meyers can be Liberalia.............


12 posted on 05/06/2008 11:48:50 AM PDT by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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To: RepublitarianRoger2
I hope they are successful so that it will set a precedent and we then we can split California in half!
13 posted on 05/06/2008 11:49:00 AM PDT by mickeylee ("EXPELLED" the movie...Go see it!)
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To: RepublitarianRoger2

two states? Hell why not three or fifteen.


14 posted on 05/06/2008 11:49:20 AM PDT by Natchez Hawk (What's so funny about the first, second, and fourth Amendments?)
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To: Paradox

I want New Jersey to go for this also. Take Trenton, Camden, Atlantic City, Essex County, Passaic County and Hudson County and let them be New Jersey. Let the rest become the Garden State.


15 posted on 05/06/2008 11:50:30 AM PDT by rocksblues (Folks we are in trouble, "Mark Levin" 03/26/08)
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To: RepublitarianRoger2

That way the Democrat Party can disenfranchise both of them!

Maybe the Northern Counties can just join Georgia...


16 posted on 05/06/2008 11:50:35 AM PDT by gridlock (The natural state of the world is Darfur. The freakish aberration is America - - Ann Coulter)
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To: Paradox

My kids have never seen a beach, so I am taking them to the Redneck Riviera in June.


17 posted on 05/06/2008 11:50:37 AM PDT by lormand (Let's all be mavericks now)
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To: Centurion2000
If they think a democrat owned Congress is going to go for this, they are smoking crack.

They probably are smoking crack, and the Dems would love it.......Two guaranteed liberal senators and several more liberal representatives in the House.........

18 posted on 05/06/2008 11:50:46 AM PDT by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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To: RepublitarianRoger2
If it wasn't for that pesky Constitution.

Section III. New states may be admitted by the Congress into this union; but no new states shall be formed or erected within the jurisdiction of any other state; nor any state be formed by the junction of two or more states, or parts of states, without the consent of the legislatures of the states concerned as well as of the Congress.

19 posted on 05/06/2008 11:51:00 AM PDT by mnehrling
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To: mickeylee

There was a move to try and split California into 3 states......


20 posted on 05/06/2008 11:51:29 AM PDT by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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To: RepublitarianRoger2

New New York ... and they’re welcome to it.


21 posted on 05/06/2008 11:51:32 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (Who Would Montgomery Brewster Choose?)
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To: lormand

C’mon down!...........but the traffic is terribler in the summer........


22 posted on 05/06/2008 11:52:37 AM PDT by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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To: Centurion2000

The Democrats know that even when South Floridans want to vote Democrat, they end up voting for Pat Buchanan anyway.


23 posted on 05/06/2008 11:53:01 AM PDT by The Pack Knight (Duty, Honor, Country.)
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To: mickeylee
or New York


24 posted on 05/06/2008 11:53:04 AM PDT by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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To: Paradox

if you’ve been to Atlanta lately, you’ll realize it has more to do with New York than the rest of the State of Georgia..the attempts to “de-southernize” it have worked..


25 posted on 05/06/2008 11:54:15 AM PDT by GeorgiaDawg32 (www.liberallunacy.bravehost.com..I'm a Patriot Guard Rider. www.patriotguard.org for info.)
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To: Gay State Conservative

You mention making D.C. a state. I am in greatly in favor of that. Give D.C. Prince George and Montgomery counties from Maryland. Maryland would then become a red state. Everyone wins.


26 posted on 05/06/2008 11:55:02 AM PDT by jeffDavis1861
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To: contemplator

Yep..in Brevard County it has that 1988 Broward feeling creeping in on a daily basis.


27 posted on 05/06/2008 11:56:11 AM PDT by My Favorite Headache (Our memories remind us, Maybe road life's not so bad...)
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To: NonValueAdded

I always thought that the boundary should be I-4. As far as making North Florida part of Georgia....No can do. How would that work for Gainesville, huh?? Knowing those Bulldogs they’d make Gainesville the “Girls-Only” campus out of spite.


28 posted on 05/06/2008 11:56:19 AM PDT by MajorTom56 (I don't need no stinkin' ground control)
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To: qam1

It used to be New York City and Upstate, but they’ve started creeping northward along the Hudson.


29 posted on 05/06/2008 11:56:25 AM PDT by Tanniker Smith (Tony Stark makes you feel he's a cool exec with a heart of steel . . .)
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To: Red Badger

I just wish we could move Austin out of Texas...


30 posted on 05/06/2008 11:57:31 AM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: Red Badger

Not so sure about that..Collier county would fall in there and it is very Conservative/GOP.


31 posted on 05/06/2008 11:57:44 AM PDT by My Favorite Headache (Our memories remind us, Maybe road life's not so bad...)
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To: Red Badger
We keep FSU, UCF and UF, they get Miami Hurricanes......

Don't forget USF!

32 posted on 05/06/2008 11:57:50 AM PDT by Prov1322 (Enjoy my wife's incredible artwork at www.watercolorARTwork.com! (This space no longer for rent))
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To: My Favorite Headache
Yep..in Brevard County it has that 1988 Broward feeling creeping in on a daily basis.

Very true. After Andrew when folks came north flush with cash and saw the price of waterfront property in Brevard, they thought it was on sale! We sold our beautiful piece of paradise in Brevard County last year. But I do not miss the taxes and insane insurance rates.

33 posted on 05/06/2008 12:02:37 PM PDT by Prov1322 (Enjoy my wife's incredible artwork at www.watercolorARTwork.com! (This space no longer for rent))
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To: ravingnutter

Texas is actually the only state that can self-segment (into five states) without the permission of the Congress?

http://www.snopes.com/history/american/texas.asp


34 posted on 05/06/2008 12:04:09 PM PDT by dr.zaeus
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To: mnehrling

Didn’t stop West Virginia. Of course, there was a little Civil war going on at the time...


35 posted on 05/06/2008 12:04:57 PM PDT by The Pack Knight (Duty, Honor, Country.)
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To: Tanniker Smith

Almost every state could do this, in that, there are different regions in the state that don’t seem to belong together.

I’ve heard of talk that California should be split, because northern and southern California don’t have a lot in common.

But the same could be said of the Chicago area and the rest of Illinois, the New York City area and upstate New York, the example of Florida mentioned here, the Seattle area and the rest of Washington, the Portland area and the rest of Oregon, the Maryland suburbs of Washington DC and the rest of Maryland, the Twin Cities and the rest of Minnesota, etc. etc.

I would be concerned about this type of trend, because new states added by such splits might tend to be the more urbanized areas splitting off from the rest of the state. The result would be more liberal Democrats in the Senate, as additional states would each get their 2 senators.


36 posted on 05/06/2008 12:08:37 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: RepublitarianRoger2

Two states my butt! Take the Northeast and the west coast, put them together and make one nation and we can keep ours.


37 posted on 05/06/2008 12:09:33 PM PDT by Bob Buchholz
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To: Red Badger

I’LL VOTE FOR IT!!!!!..............Me too if they throw in Collier.


38 posted on 05/06/2008 12:09:46 PM PDT by Bringbackthedraft (Where have all our Great Leaders gone? Certainly there must be one out there?)
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To: RepublitarianRoger2

How about “Chadahoma”.

Seriously a state that cannot even hold an election free of controversy and they want to double the trouble.


39 posted on 05/06/2008 12:10:39 PM PDT by rod1 (u)
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To: rocksblues

We, in the civilized Penssylvania, would dearly love to kick out Phildelphia and have them join New Jersey. We’ll take the decent part of your state in exchange. Then our crooked governor and your crooked governor could square off to see who becomes governor of New New Jersey and New Pennsylvania can elect somebody decent.


40 posted on 05/06/2008 12:10:54 PM PDT by Vigilanteman ((Are there any men left in Washington? Or are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud))
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To: rocksblues

When I was a kid there was serious talk about breaking out the Delaware Valley...South Jersey, Philly, Wilmington and the rest of DE. As much as the folks I knew resented North Jersey there was no way they wanted to be tied to Philly so it never went anywhere.


41 posted on 05/06/2008 12:11:12 PM PDT by pgkdan (Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions - G.K. Chesterton)
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To: JulieRNR21; kinganamort; katherineisgreat; floriduh voter; summer; Goldwater Girl; windchime; ...
Florida Freeper


42 posted on 05/06/2008 12:11:19 PM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: camle

Floridumb
The Snowbird State
Southern Ohio


43 posted on 05/06/2008 12:13:51 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ("Don't touch that thing")
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To: Vigilanteman

I am all IN!


44 posted on 05/06/2008 12:13:55 PM PDT by rocksblues (Folks we are in trouble, "Mark Levin" 03/26/08)
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To: Paradox; qam1; mnehrling; Centurion2000
Noth Florida is to South Florida as Georgia is to New York.

Florida is far from the only state split along these demographic and urban/suburban/rural kinds of lines. New York has NYC, NYC suburbs, and "upstate." Illinois has Chicago, Chicago suburbs, and "downstate." Michigan has Detroit, its suburbs, and the rest of the state. Pennsylvania has Philadelphia and Pittsburgh, and the rest of the state.

So there is nothing very unusual about part of a state talking about secession from the rest of it. However, it has actually come to pass just once, or possibly twice, in American history. And it took a Civil War for West Virginia to secede from Virgina.

The founding fathers were wise to put the provision requiring congressional approval in the Constitution, although perhaps they could have done better by requiring a supermajority of Congress.

45 posted on 05/06/2008 12:24:26 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: jeffDavis1861
You mention making D.C. a state. I am in greatly in favor of that. Give D.C. Prince George and Montgomery counties from Maryland. Maryland would then become a red state. Everyone wins.

even better...give them NOVA too. That way VA becomes a red state again.

46 posted on 05/06/2008 12:25:15 PM PDT by pgkdan (Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions - G.K. Chesterton)
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To: gridlock

“Maybe the Northern Counties can just join Georgia...”

Trade Miami for Atlanta? No way.


47 posted on 05/06/2008 12:25:22 PM PDT by bobjam
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To: Red Badger
We keep FSU, UCF and UF, they get Miami Hurricanes......

They get South Beach, Coconut Grove, and Key West, and we get Disney World, Universal Studios, and Cape Canaveral?

-PJ

48 posted on 05/06/2008 12:31:43 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (Repeal the 17th amendment -- it's the "Fairness Doctrine" for Congress!)
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To: Political Junkie Too

We keep the Jaguars, maybe the Buccaneers and they keep the Dolphins.......


49 posted on 05/06/2008 12:33:00 PM PDT by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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To: Gay State Conservative
Great! Two more RATS in the Senate.

One more, but we'd also get one more Republican. Bill Nelson lives in Miami, so we'd be able to elect another Republican Senator in the new state of North Florida.

50 posted on 05/06/2008 12:33:20 PM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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