John McCain and War

National Review Online ^ | February 04, 2008, 5:00 p.m. | Andrew C. McCarthy

[TigersEye]

Is it? Where were you during the Cliton presidency? Did I somehow miss their swift and strong actions against NUMEROUS terrorists attacks against the US?

That was pre-9/11. Do you honestly think the American people will sit still and silent in the face of new attacks? A Democrat administration, that has campaigned on backing off of the war on terror, will be far more vulnerable to the political backlash should new attacks occur.

Let's get real here: your notion that the Dems in power will do anything other than actively cower and "seek dialogue" in the face of terrorist aggression is an absurdity. Have you forgotten who holds Congress as well?

That is all under a Republican President that they can and have deflected all blame and criticism too. A President they could count on to prevent any attacks that would make them look bad. The MSM has been glad to go along with that. Under a Dem Pres. they will have no choice but to take the blame and the MSM won't be able to cover for them in a post-9/11 world. They can try but it won't wash.

[calcowgirl]

I think some folks forget that we are electing a President, not a King.

[TigersEye]

I don't know what they think an uber-RINO like McCain will do when Congress will still be filled with RINOs and likely still be a Dem majority??? Even with a Pubbie Pres. and a Pub majority Congress McCain preferred to work with the most left-leaning Dems of all. He seemed to want to get his name on the most left-leaning bills of all too.

Apparently he's giving secret hand signals to his supporters that say he plans on doing a 180 the day after his election. No doubt the Dem Congress will be so impressed by his Maverick individualism they will swoon and work in bi-partisan harmony to get all of his conservative plans, which he has never spoken of, implemented immediately.

[Shryke]

Firstly the "worst of the worst" statement does not jive at all with what we know about the people detained there. Secondly if they were then that should make it enormously easy to convict them with a fair trial, the US government should falling over itself to demonstrate just how very awful these guys are.

Neither China nor Russia teach their children that blowing up other children in a suicide attack is the path to heaven. Equating either of them to regimes like Iran, N. Korea, or Syria is a very, very big mistake. Dialogue with a terrorist state is a waste of time.

[lexusppd]

What about the Independents, smart guy? Your claim they vote on a 50/50 split is bogus as hell. If you had taken the time to actually study the numbers you would have seen that while the Democrat ranks shrunk by 14% (56% to 42%) between 1966 and 2006 the Rep ranks shrunk half of that. Meanwhile the ranks of Ind increased the total of the shrinkage between the Dems and Rep. Common sense indicates that the growth of the Independent ranks included TWICE as many Dems becoming Ind as Rep becoming Ind. It doesn't take an Einstein to know how these people will be voting.

Try again later on when you can be bit more civil and can reign in your need to make wise ass comments simply because you (erroneously) thought you had won something. For you to say the demographics, politically are the same in Ca as they are in the nation generally is so far beyond the pale as to not be worth addressing. A few other inconvenient facts for you to chew on:

A major survey [pdf] seeking to identify characteristics of independent voters, conducted by the Washington Post, the Kaiser Family Foundation and Harvard University, found that unaligned voters view the Democratic Party favorably by a 55-41 margin, and the Republican Party unfavorably, 55-41. Independents were asked which party they prefer on 10 different issues, and they chose the Democrats on nine issues, including healthcare, 48-20; the situation in Iraq, 44-28; global warming, 49-21; and on such social issues as abortion and gay marriage, 43-26. The only issue on which independents preferred Republicans was "the U.S. campaign against terrorism," 39 GOP, 30 Democrat.

[calcowgirl]

Last October, in an interview with Charlie Rose, McCain said
“I’d ask Warren Buffett to come back and run a commission to reform the institutions of government.”

I wonder if he’ll find a place for George Soros, too. ;-)

http://www.charlierose.com/guests/john-mccain

[lexusppd]

Your choice. However I expect you won’t be here whining about Obama or Hillary and their decisions regarding the WOT etc since you didn’t bother to make an effort in choosing anyone at all.

[Shryke]

That was pre-9/11. Do you honestly think the American people will sit still and silent in the face of new attacks? A Democrat administration, that has campaigned on backing off of the war on terror, will be far more vulnerable to the political backlash should new attacks occur.

You've missed my point entirely. They will minimize the first few probing attacks, as they have before. Then, when the terrorists have been encouraged and left alone for long enough, we lose a city or two. THAT is what I fear is going to happen.

This notion that the citizenry is all awake because of 9/11 is flat out false. Our towers were bombed BEFORE. NOTHING WAS DONE. People want to BELIEVE that "everything is ok", even when it clearly isn't.

You are gambling with a Democrat in the Whitehouse, clearly commited to surrendering Iraq, talking with terrorists regimes, and sacking the military (just like Clinton) COMBINED with a Democrat controlled congress. I just can't fathom how you could possibly think that is anything but disaster.

[lexusppd]

No its NOT what we hear every 4 years (except 4 years ago) because the danger was NOTHING 8 years ago or before compared to now.

[calcowgirl]

???

Is that in response to anything that I wrote?

Those certainly are not my words that you italicized.

[lexusppd]

I said the GW hoax will disappear, go away, be gone just like the next ice age scare went away in the 1970’s.

BTW, Reagan raised taxes. I didn’t like that but I remained loyal to him and the Party. Did you? If so why?

[Shryke]

Oops! Bloody copy and paste error. It was in reply to this:

Nixon talked to China. Reagan talked to the Soviet Union. All promises from our enemies should be looked upon skeptically but it does not mean that aggression is the only solution. Non-dialogue, especially when combined with aggression, often escalates the situation.

[calcowgirl]

What about the Independents, smart guy? Your claim they vote on a 50/50 split is bogus as hell.

LOL. Your lack of reading comprehension abilities are glaringly obvious.

I said: "independents vote pretty much in the same ratio as the D/R ratio".

Are you familiar with the mathematical concept of "ratio"?

For you to say the demographics, politically are the same in Ca as they are in the nation ...

There you go again. I didn't say that.

With respect to California, I said: "the demographics as to party are not much different than they were in the Reagan gubernatorial era"

I see little benefit in continuing this dialogue if you can't accurately read my posts and instead twist them for your own purposes.

Good day.

[TigersEye]

You've missed my point entirely. They will minimize the first few probing attacks, as they have before.

You have missed my point entirely. With all the efforts now in place, since 9/11, it isn't likely that there will be any "probing" attacks. No more than there has been anyway.

This notion that the citizenry is all awake because of 9/11 is flat out false.

It isn't false at all. Terrorism is one of the major subjects of discussion and media attention now and it wasn't at all before 9/11. That is a very objective standard of the reality of it.

You are gambling with a Democrat in the Whitehouse, ...

I'm not gambling with anything. There is no gamble. All three potential candidates are unfit for office. Any of the three will be a disaster. There is nothing I can do about that.

[calcowgirl]

Me: "Nixon talked to China. Reagan talked to the Soviet Union. All promises from our enemies should be looked upon skeptically but it does not mean that aggression is the only solution. Non-dialogue, especially when combined with aggression, often escalates the situation."

You: "Neither China nor Russia teach their children that blowing up other children in a suicide attack is the path to heaven. Equating either of them to regimes like Iran, N. Korea, or Syria is a very, very big mistake. Dialogue with a terrorist state is a waste of time. "

Yeah... the communists just advocated the violent overthrow of the U.S. Government--no threat there. /s

[calcowgirl]

All three potential candidates are unfit for office. Any of the three will be a disaster. There is nothing I can do about that.

Sad, but true. :-(

[TigersEye]

Try again later on when you can be bit more civil and can reign in your need to make wise ass comments ...

What the heck are you talking about? calcowgirl has been far more respectful than you have. Where in her post was there any "wise ass" comment? You're getting hysterical.

[Shryke]

And do they raise terrorists?

More importantly, do they recognize the sheer madness of attacking us with a nuclear weapon? Of course they do.

Do you seriously believe that Iran, Syria, or N. Korea wouldn't use a nuke on us, via terrorist?

[Shryke]

I'm not gambling with anything. There is no gamble. All three potential candidates are unfit for office. Any of the three will be a disaster. There is nothing I can do about that.

Your failure to differentiate between Barack Obama and Mccain, and their primary job duty as Commander in Chief, astounds me. IT ASTOUNDS ME.

Nothing more I can say to you, really. Good luck with whatever you are going for, I guess.

[calcowgirl]

I said the GW hoax will disappear, go away, be gone just like the next ice age scare went away in the 1970’s.

Before or after McCain gets his cap-and-trade restrictions in place? You are very, very naive, IMO. This will not just go away--the PTB have way too much invested. FYI--laws have already been passed in several states laying the groundwork for this scam. And McCain continues to call this a TOP PRIORITY of his agenda. McCain will try to push this through and a bunch of folks like you will be on here telling all those who oppose it that they are just "haters" or that it is good because we will have a "cleaner planet." AGW represents the largest wealth redistribution scam ever attempted and a huge leap toward global governance. Wake Up! Ignoring these destructive programs will lead to our demise--not a guy living in a cave in the M.E.

BTW, Reagan raised taxes. I didn’t like that but I remained loyal to him and the Party. Did you? If so why?

I have never voted other than Republican. Schwarzenegger was the first time I drew the line and refused to vote for him (I left it blank). McCain will be the second time.