Posted on 05/05/2008 8:16:13 PM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo
A young woman jumped out a second story window after being sexually assaulted early Sunday morning at her home near the University of Minnesota campus, according to Minneapolis Police.
Police said a 20-year-old woman was confronted by a stranger in her residence on the 1000 block of 15th Avenue S.E. The woman was sexually assaulted and then fled out of a second story window, breaking her ankle from the fall. Police said she then ran to a neighbor's house to report the assault.
Minneapolis police are investigating this recent incident.
On April 26, an 18-year-old female student was sexually assaulted in Pioneer Hall, a campus dorm building.
According to police, one suspect grabbed the victim and pulled her into the restroom on the third floor of the dorm. A second suspect held her down while the first suspect assaulted her. Police said the attackers ran and the young woman got help from a friend in the building.
Police have not arrested anyone in the April 26 incident. They do not believe Sunday's incident is related to the assault in April.
The perps know that they won't pay the price, so they continue to offend on a weekly basis.
Don’t try to make this about guns. You’re hijacking a thread before it even gets started.
Parents pay $40,000 a year to these colleges so their girls can get raped?
When are these colleges going to be FORCED to provide adequate security?
This has been going on since Ted Bundy raped tortured and killed girls in their college dorms in the 1970’s.
Well, then it isn’t a hijack, is it? I think the article’s poster should be allowed some discretion as to what to say in post #1 for having gone to the trouble of posting the article. If we weren’t allowed to editorialize about stories posted here, why would FR be the active discussion site that it is?
Forceable rape should carry the death penalty.
The Second Amendment is a Womans Rights Issue.
Don’t allow your children to go to these institutions which allow them to be victimized. Commuter colleges are an economical answer. Don’t let your children live in dormitories. They are asylums for insane predators parading as a diverse intellectual community, and have been fotr many years.
No, parents don’t pay tuition so their girls can get raped. That was an uncalled-for slam at the school.
Please, let’s look at this awful story for what it is: the story of a sexual predator who is preying on that campus and needs to be caught.
When you’ve got that many students living in close proximity, the great majority of them good young people, it’s hard to spot a pervert.
Moreover, college kids are by nature trusting. They don’t lock doors, they mix freely and don’t expect a new acquaintance to be a criminal. It’s an easy environment for abuse, even with the best official security procedures in place.
I have no doubt whatsoever that both the university and the students are highly alarmed and doing whatever they can to provide security and, more importantly, to catch the perp.
This is not the norm. Don’t blame the victims, and that includes the university in this case.
Sorry. You are correct. It is not a hijack. It’s just an unfortunate attempt to twist a story for a personal agenda.
Obviously there’s not enough interest in increasing security.
Well, it is about guns, at least indirectly. One pull of the trigger would have stopped the assault.
Are we supposed to draw any conclusions from the fact that college girls are raped in their student housing, or not? If so, what? Please enlighten us, but without injecting any of your own personal agenda as the rest of us tend to do.
The leftists sure are against choice when it comes to letting women choose to defend themselves.
where is the description of the rapists?
Many schools do deserve to be slammed for lax security and a trust for way out of the ordinary persons, and an obvious preference for foreign students who think their own laws should prevail over America’s laws.
“Don’t try to make this about guns. You’re hijacking a thread before it even gets started.”
It’s my thread and it’s all about the fact that the University of Minnesota has become a hotbed of crime because it is a gun free zone and the perps know it.
Just like the Uptown crimes in the past couple of years.
The opportunist criminals know that MN uptowners are liberals with no permits, let alone, guns.
Don’t try to make this about your pals with their dew-rags.
LOL! The fundamental of the story is about a thug pig that took advantage of a defenseless woman. Had the woman took it upon herself to mount an effective defense against such a vicious pig, she wouldn't have been subject to the sexual assault and had to jump out a second story window. I think she should have gutted the pig with a Buck Special and told the authorities to shove it if they had any complaints.
If the young lady was armed And pulled the trigger at the right time the "perp" would already be caught.
What’s a dew-rag?
The story was not twisted in any way. Sometimes reality supports certain agendas. Learn to deal with that.
One pull of the trigger could also have killed the girl. Depends on who gains control of the weapon, and I’m betting she wasn’t the strongest of the two.
Here is somthing to chew on. Most armed people don't become victims.
Universities are more likely to cover up the incidents than to admit how their policies (of all kinds) make students targets of predators (of all kinds).
A bandana worn around the head of gang bangers to identify their affiliation. Otherwise known as colors.
God made man. Sam Colt made them equal.
If I had a dog in this hunt, I’d tell you.
To answer your question, the conclusion that I draw from the fact that college girls are raped in student housing is that a sexual predator is targeting girls in student housing. He could just as well have targeted them off-campus.
Here’s what I am trying so say, from experience of sending three kids to college and observing, up close, both security and lifestyle in college dorms:
Those are young adults. They keep absurd hours. They socialize and study at all hours. The dorms, even with the best electronic security, are a place where many people come and go every day.
In my children’s cases, there were electronic entry keys. In theory, only dorm residents could enter. In reality, there’s so much coming and going that they let each other in and out. I have no idea how the university can monitor that kind of student behavior.
These kids are trusting. They’re meeting lots of new people all the time. They don’t think bad things will happen to them. The university (and parents, please) can teach caution and install the latest in security, but it’s still going to be a place that is ripe for an evil perp to take advantage.
We should place blame where it belongs, on the creep who’s doing this, and hope he gets caught soon.
I thought the poster was refering to something connected with dew, instead of a shortened form of hairdo like the clothing article suggests.
And if she was armed and overpowered, she would most likely be dead.
Dew.....sweat......sweatband....dewrag....
She was basically overpowered as it was. A weapon could have made the difference. I know your type. Try to understand the offender but God forbid arming the innocent.
some good points. what are your views on concealed carry?
The pattern at the U of M has become women being assaulted by (you won’t hear this from the Hennepin County Sheriff, nor the University of Minnesota...) Somali males, not U of M students, just opportunists, knowing that the ‘U’ is a gun free zone.
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This is the banglist and generally the most vulnerable members of society are those who most need technological advantages to prevail over predators.
The primary tool in this technological competition is mindset and the ability to acquire,possess,transport and competently use weapons especially firearms.
Your objection is unclear. This assault is absolutely about guns and should be.
Best regards,
>One pull of the trigger could also have killed the girl. Depends on who gains control of the weapon, and I’m betting she wasn’t the strongest of the two.<
The Gun is Civilization
by Marko Kloos of the
Munchkin Wrangler blog
Human beings only have two ways to deal with one another: reason and force. If you want me to do something for you, you have a choice of either convincing me via argument, or force me to do your bidding under threat of force. Every human interaction falls into one of those two categories, without exception. Reason or force, that’s it.
In a truly moral and civilized society, people exclusively interact through persuasion. Force has no place as a valid method of social interaction, and the only thing that removes force from the menu is the personal firearm, as paradoxical as it may sound to some.
When I carry a gun, you cannot deal with me by force. You have to use reason and try to persuade me, because I have a way to negate your threat or employment of force.
The gun is the only personal weapon that puts a 100-pound woman on equal footing with a 220-pound mugger, a 75-year old retiree on equal footing with a 19-year old gang banger, and a single guy on equal footing with a carload of drunk guys with baseball bats. The gun removes the disparity in physical strength, size, or numbers between a potential attacker and a defender.
There are plenty of people who consider the gun as the source of bad force equations. These are the people who think that we’d be more civilized if all guns were removed from society, because a firearm makes it easier for a [armed] mugger to do his job. That, of course, is only true if the mugger’s potential victims are mostly disarmed either by choice or by legislative fiat—it has no validity when most of a mugger’s potential marks are armed.
People who argue for the banning of arms ask for automatic rule by the young, the strong, and the many, and that’s the exact opposite of a civilized society. A mugger, even an armed one, can only make a successful living in a society where the state has granted him a force monopoly.
Then there’s the argument that the gun makes confrontations lethal that otherwise would only result in injury. This argument is fallacious in several ways. Without guns involved, confrontations are won by the physically superior party inflicting overwhelming injury on the loser.
People who think that fists, bats, sticks, or stones don’t constitute lethal force watch too much TV, where people take beatings and come out of it with a bloody lip at worst. The fact that the gun makes lethal force easier works solely in favor of the weaker defender, not the stronger attacker. If both are armed, the field is level.
The gun is the only weapon that’s as lethal in the hands of an octogenarian as it is in the hands of a weight lifter. It simply wouldn’t work as well as a force equalizer if it wasn’t both lethal and easily employable.
When I carry a gun, I don’t do so because I am looking for a fight, but because I’m looking to be left alone. The gun at my side means that I cannot be forced, only persuaded. I don’t carry it because I’m afraid, but because it enables me to be unafraid. It doesn’t limit the actions of those who would interact with me through reason, only the actions of those who would do so by force. It removes force from the equation...and that’s why carrying a gun is a civilized act.
So the greatest civilization is one where all citizens are equally armed and can only be persuaded, never forced.
You just can't keep sending young kids out like lambs for the slaughter without a method of defense regardless of the views posted by some here.
Suspect 1: Black male, 20 to 24 years old, about 6 feet tall, muscular build, short, dark hair Suspect 2: Black male, 18 to 22 years old, 5’7 to 5’10 inches tall, muscular build, short, dark hair
>We should place blame where it belongs, on the creep who’s doing this, and hope he gets caught soon.<
I would prefer the woman took care of the situation herself. I’ll give her the authority to determine if this rapist deserves the death penalty since she was the victim. Instaed of running for the window I’d prefer she ran for her purse or desk drawer for an equalizer.
I don't think he will get it. What's up?
The U of M continues to be an unsafe/deadly campus.
Not so, in my neighborhood.
If you know what I mean.
I think I do.
Bad people don’t respect “ONLY” zones.
;-)
They do respect a 230 gr FMJ in the bread basket.
Well, when it’s a women’s only dorm and it’s enforced, someone would have noticed they were out of place and called the police.
For just a fleeting moment, they do.....
On that note goodnight sir.
Kennesaw State University is a firearms free zone, but it is in the town that for 25 years has had an ordinance that states that every head of household must possess a firearm and ammunition. My daughter graduated from KSU and I never worried about her the whole time she attended.
It’s a known and well advertised no-personal-protection zone.
Allow me to spell it out for you......
The criminal element, from the inner-city, knows that the U of M is easy pickings.
Simple as that..
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