Posted on 05/03/2008 8:05:04 PM PDT by ricks_place
Experts say Supreme Court ruling upholding law could disenfranchise minorities, youth and the elderly.

Experts say African-American voters a key constituency of Barack Obama in the primaries thus far might be disproportionately affected in Tuesdays Indiana primary by the Supreme Courts recent decision to uphold the states voter identification requirement.
Studies show that African-Americans are especially likely not to have the identification necessary to vote on Tuesday. Several other groups, notably elderly voters, disabled voters and young voters, are also more likely than the general population not to have the necessary identification.
The research is pretty clear that in Indiana this will disproportionately affect certain groups and African-Americans are certainly one of them, said Julia Vaughn, Indiana policy director for Common Cause. Common Cause and verifiedvoting.org issued a report on May 1 detailing which groups are least likely to have a government-issued photo identification card that meets the Indiana laws requirements.
As the report noted, a University of Washington study found that 28 percent of African-Americans in the state of Indiana do not have the proper ID to vote. African-Americans make up 9 percent of the voting population in Indiana.
By comparison, slightly less than 20 percent of Indianans over 70 do not have the necessary ID, according to the same study. Older voters tend to favor Hillary Rodham Clinton, while Obama has strong support among youth. According to a recent Rock the Vote poll, 19 percent of people under 30 do not have a valid photo identification with their current address as the Indiana law requires. Since young people move frequently they are less likely to have identification cards with their current address.
And young African-Americans are especially likely to not meet the requirements.
(Excerpt) Read more at politico.com ...
I see BHO is lining up his excuses in advance...
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If free healthcare required a picture ID, everybody would find a way to get one....
You are exactly right.
I don’t believe this.
I work with a food pantry that serves the disadvantaged, many, perhaps most, of them minorities.
In order to qualify for virtually any charitable help, public or private, identification for everyone in the household is required. Otherwise, the unethical can pad the number of people in the household — and, believe me, they will.
These folks have state-issued photo IDs. If they’re too unmotivated to get one, they have no business voting.
If there were any truth to her claims why did it turn out that the Democrats couldn't produce a single individual who did not have appropriate identification?
This particular group, Common Cause, was the inspiration for Herr McCain's idea for campaign finance reform. He must have mush for brains to have ever listened to that bunch of fascist pigs.
So the majority of blacks have no ID of any kind? Good Lord, the propagandists aren't even trying to stay rational anymore.
Death will finally be an impediment to voting Democrat!
“Not in California!”
How can showing an ID disenfrancise anyone?
Inquiring minds want to know.
An ID of just any kind will not do; it must be a Government issued photo ID.
This is typical scare tactic BS. When are minorities going to wake up & see that libs NEED for them to feel depressed, oppressed, and scared to question their handlers. Libs power comes from maintaining an underclass.
Are mugshots considered a state identification?
At the same time, I bet any of these LOSERS have no problem at all producing an ID for renting a movie or buying a beer at a bar.
what a crock! YOung African-Americans don’t have a driver’s license ? If they move and don’t keep up the address they are in violation of the law, anyway.
The law could discriminate against dead people, non-citizens, and multiple voters
How do people get by in society without having ID? You can’t really use a credit card, get a job, enter a bar, and many other things I’m sure. Even if you are old don’t you have to have some ID to get social security checks?
Your post provides a profound point of which I had not given any thought. It bears repeating.
I don't guess we would be hearing any disenfranchisement complaints, now would we????
Part of the reason they lost this one in court is because they could not produce a single victim. The only study they did here was staring into bong smoke.
I’m wondering how so many people without a valid photo ID managed to register themselves to vote in the first place.
Hence, the problem Dems are whining about: there are people out there the Dems would dearly love to get to the voting booths who are reluctant to show or obtain a government ID. Unfortunately, they are illegal, wanted on warrant, ex-cons who have lost their privileges, etc., etc.
maybe. I've seen a guy use his parole papers as identification before.
Bump
Knocking down doors to get one.
Just try to open a bank account, write a check or get into a age-restricted building/event without one.
Nobody has ANY excuse for not having an ID, especially when friends/relatives/community programs can help you if you are *somehow* unable to do it yourself.
Any state DMV can issue a Non-Driver Photo ID Card.
Just another liberal fraud tactic.
I hope Indiana leads the way for other states to require photo IDs.
The voting system needs a big overhauling of honesty.
Disenfranchisement my butt
“19 percent of people under 30 do not have a valid photo identification with their current address as the Indiana law requires. Since young people move frequently they are less likely to have identification cards with their current address”
Wrong. Wrong. Wrong. Wrong. Address doesn’t matter. As long as the name, the photo, match up and the signature is reasonably close the address doesn’t matter.
I voted early and showed my US Passport. No address given on a passport.
I don’t believe this is true, but even so, Hillary won’t be complaining.
*Every* state should have this requirement.
Voting is privilege, not a “right”.
I have no problem showing my ID to poll workers...probably because I’m exactly who I say I am, there to vote legally and only *once*.
The only people who will “benefit” from ‘no-ID-required’ voting laws are those who are attempting to circumvent the ID/legality issues.
http://www.in.gov/sos/photoid/
Public Law 109-2005 requires Indiana residents to present a government-issued photo ID before casting a ballot at the polls on Election Day.
Your photo ID must meet 4 criteria to be acceptable for voting purposes. It Must:
1. Display your photo
2. Display your name, and the name must conform to your voter registration record. Conform does not mean identical. Below are examples of names that would conform to "Robert John Crew"
3. Display an expiration date and either be current or have expired sometime after the date of the last General Election (November 7, 2006)
In most cases, an Indiana driver license, Indiana photo ID card, Military ID or U.S. Passport is sufficient.
A student ID from an Indiana State school may only be used if it meets all of the 4 criteria specified above. A student ID from a private institution may not be used for voting purposes. For more Information for College Students click here.
If you are unable or unwilling to present ID meeting these requirements, you may cast a provisional ballot. If you cast a provisional ballot, you have until noon 10 days after the election to follow up with the county election board and either provide the necessary documentation or affirm one of the laws exemptions applies to you.
House Speaker Decries Supreme Court Decision on Voter IDs
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif) called the Supreme Courts decision on Indianas voter identification law undemocratic. The law requires voters to show a valid photo ID in order to obtain a ballot.
The Courts decision places obstacles to the fundamental rights of the people, especially the ignorant, the undocumented, and the inanimatethe very people whose circumstances tend to impede their ability to register or cast a vote, Pelosi complained. The right to vote is a foundation of our democracy. Everyone who wishes to vote must be allowed to do so.
Pelosi predicted that the ruling would reduce 2008 voter turnout and permit a narrowly defined clique of established citizens to determine the outcome, resulting in another four years of Republican misrule.
read more...
http://www.azconservative.org/Semmens1.htm
Pelosi predicted that the ruling would reduce 2008 voter turnout and permit a narrowly defined clique of established citizens to determine the outcome, resulting in another four years of Republican misrule.Ah, come on Nancy...just think of this narrowly defined clique as Super Delegates!
Democrat voters have been disenfranchised already. Florida and Michigan voters don’t count at all and the nomination will be decided by the so called super delegates. What a srewed up party
How many thousand times will democrat leaders repeatedly call black “voters” STUPID, INEPT, and HELPLESS (in one way or another, such as in this case) before more blacks realize what their liberal “Masta” is really doing to them???
It is 2008! Let them leave the Plantation, already!!!!
And why, Mr. Moonbat, would you declare that young African-Americans be likely not to meet the requirements? Because they've not bright enough? Too lazy? Not ambitious enough? Shiftless? Indifferent? Illiterate? Cowardly?....
Ah, the subtle bigotry of the Left.
I’ve had ID since I was 15. Why can’t others?
And Communist Cause would be making sure of it!
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus
Oh? How do any/all of these purportedly disenfranchised individuals manage to cash and/or deposit checks, then?
How do they manage to obtain prescription medications?
Most glaringly obvious query: how do they even manage to drive...?
I call crapola. ;)
Simple get an ID. There is no reason a person who is legally here cannot get one.
Im angry because my grandparents lifelong conservative republicans vote democrat since they died in Chicago.
Dead vote Democrat in Chicago.
(by the way my grandparents worked hard for Ronald Reagan in 1980 and an invite to the innauguration was the inspiration for my grandmother to recover from a massive heart attack 2 days after the election.)
Mark
According to the website of the Indiana BMV, "The holder of a driver license, identification card or learner permit must notify the BMV of a change of address and apply for an amended license, identification card or permit within 30 days of the address change." Are these 19 percent people who have moved within the last 30 days of are they in violation of the law? I am a Hoosier and have lived here in Indiana my whole life. I haven't seen people from Indiana referred to as "Indianans." Maybe the writers of this article should have done their homework. If you have to present ID when exercising your 2nd or 21st Amendment rights, why should voting be any different?
Best line of the week.
I venture that no matter what the numbers say, those without state approved ID’s are not very likely to vote anyway. These are the types of people who live on the fringes of society. They are wanted by the law, scam social services, father dozens of kids and have a huge child support bill - whatever. They are not very likely to perform a civic action unless they are ordered to do so by a court of law.
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