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Earth 'Noise' Could Attract Alien Invaders
New Scientist ^ | 5-3-2008

Posted on 05/03/2008 1:07:20 PM PDT by blam

Earth 'noise' could attract alien invaders

03 May 2008
From New Scientist Print Edition.

No matter how quiet we try to be now it's too late to prevent alien invaders. So says Alexander Zaitsev of the Institute of Radio Engineering and Electronics in Moscow, Russia, who points the finger at astronomers.

For 40 years, astronomers have fired microwaves off objects to chart near-Earth space and track the movement of close asteroids - and these signals are traceable back to us. By comparison, Zaitsev says, dedicated transmissions - often described as "shouting into an unknown jungle" - are a mere whisper. He calculates the astronomy signals have filled an area of the sky 2000 times greater than dedicated broadcasts have managed to date (www.arxiv.org/0804.2754).

(Excerpt) Read more at space.newscientist.com ...


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KEYWORDS: alien; astronomy; earth; invaders; noise
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Shhhh!

(The Triffids are already here)

1 posted on 05/03/2008 1:07:20 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam
There are all kinds of aliens among us.
2 posted on 05/03/2008 1:11:04 PM PDT by TheWasteLand
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To: blam

Time to stock up on ammo.


3 posted on 05/03/2008 1:12:06 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: blam; martin_fierro; Mr. Silverback; Slings and Arrows
... and then, once they do find us:

THEY'LL TAKE SANTA AWAY FROM US!!!!!!"

;)

4 posted on 05/03/2008 1:12:53 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (If McCain really CAN "win without conservatives," then why do you care if I vote for him or not?)
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To: blam

The guy’s a moron. What are the chances that a civilization lasting long enough to develop faster-than-light interstellar travel would still be violent enough to want to conquer another planet?


5 posted on 05/03/2008 1:13:04 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny
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To: Cementjungle
Time to stock up on ammo.

And Slim Whitman albums.

6 posted on 05/03/2008 1:13:21 PM PDT by OSHA (framing it as though you've magically neutralized any potential negative eventuality)
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To: blam

I’m willing to do my part by wearing a tin foil hat and thinking quiet thoughts........


7 posted on 05/03/2008 1:13:37 PM PDT by Kimmers
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To: blam

Our acreage used to be part of a farm over 20 years ago. It grows stuff a local botanist has had trouble identifying. We’ve simply named them “Triffids.” Very few family members get the joke but we’re the nerds of the bunch.

As to the noise output of the Earth, if aliens are stupid enough to come here they deserve what happens to them.


8 posted on 05/03/2008 1:14:45 PM PDT by Kieri (Midwest Snark Claw & Feather Club Founder)
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To: blam
Any intelligent life in the universe is going to take one look at our various radio and television transmissions, declare earthlings dangerously schizophrenic and place us under permanent quarantine.

Either that or they will sell tickets to the freak show.
9 posted on 05/03/2008 1:14:57 PM PDT by Dr.Zoidberg ("Shut the hell up, New York Times, you sanctimonious whining jerks!" - Craig Ferguson)
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To: blam

I believe that if hostile aliens tried to subdue the Earth, humans would very quickly learn the technology that brought them here and before long we would be running the show again.


10 posted on 05/03/2008 1:16:23 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (The road to hell is paved with the stones of pragmatism.)
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To: blam

Aliens will never come here due to Global Warming.


11 posted on 05/03/2008 1:17:10 PM PDT by beltfed308 (Heller: The defining moment of our Republic)
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To: blam

Quick! Everybody hide behind the sofa! (This always worked when we were kids watching a scary space monster movie on TV.)


12 posted on 05/03/2008 1:17:20 PM PDT by 6SJ7
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To: blam

I can only wonder how long that would take for that sound to travel such great distance?

I think if there is a threat at all would still be from space rocks or even some organisms that just might make it past burning up on entry in our atmosphere.

I mean... if a guy REALLY have a need to feel doomed.... are are far more likely scenarios.


13 posted on 05/03/2008 1:18:46 PM PDT by Tut
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To: Kieri
they deserve what happens to them.

Yep. Overrun by WalMart, McDonalds, and Starbucks in a very short time.

/johnny

14 posted on 05/03/2008 1:19:48 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Bless us all, each, and every one.)
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To: blam

Baraack Obama niktu!


15 posted on 05/03/2008 1:20:21 PM PDT by billorites (Freepo ergo sum)
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To: billorites

You have that wrong...
its:

“Gork Baraack Obama niktu!


16 posted on 05/03/2008 1:21:50 PM PDT by woofie
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To: Psycho_Bunny
The guy’s a moron.

The man has a PhD. in Astrophysics.
Just the kind of "moron" that would be forced off FR.

17 posted on 05/03/2008 1:23:14 PM PDT by ASA Vet (Do we really want Huma answering the White House phone at 3 AM?)
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To: OSHA

when i’m calling you.......


18 posted on 05/03/2008 1:23:42 PM PDT by brivette
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To: Psycho_Bunny
What are the chances that a civilization lasting long enough to develop faster-than-light interstellar travel would still be violent enough to want to conquer another planet?

Pretty good, I'd say, if you assume a society with very strong internal bonds of cohesion but extreme antipathy to others.

IOW, they're violent to everybody but each other. We have a pretty good example right here on earth with 1930s and 40s Japan. Very low internal conflict. Extreme aggression channeled outwards, even towards people that were no threat to them such as Pacific islanders.

19 posted on 05/03/2008 1:24:14 PM PDT by Sherman Logan (Those who deny freedom to others deserve it not for themselves. - A. Lincoln)
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To: blam

Meanwhile in another part of the galaxy other life forms are saying “Be quiet, or we’ll attract earthlings!”


20 posted on 05/03/2008 1:24:42 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: 6SJ7; blam

This movie had me literally hiding behind the sofa...

“People of Earth attention. People of Earth attention. This is a voice speaking to you from thousands of miles beyond your planet...”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2o4fdX8gUMY


21 posted on 05/03/2008 1:25:47 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: blam

I’ve already written on this topic in “SETI in Reverse” on Amazon.com (Downloadable Kindle, 99 cents)


22 posted on 05/03/2008 1:26:55 PM PDT by tbw2 ("Sirat: Through the Fires of Hell" by Tamara Wilhite - on amazon.com)
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To: Sherman Logan

Interesting how we assign human traits, emotions, and characteristics to potenial aliens.....


23 posted on 05/03/2008 1:29:33 PM PDT by G Larry (HILLARY CARE = DYING IN LINE!)
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To: blam
They are already here making noise for the others to follow...


24 posted on 05/03/2008 1:29:48 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (Vote for McCain but trust in the Lord)
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To: ASA Vet
"The man has a PhD. in Astrophysics."
"Just the kind of "moron" that would be forced off FR."

I thought of that during the recent 'fundraiser'.

25 posted on 05/03/2008 1:30:38 PM PDT by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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To: Dr.Zoidberg
"Either that or they will sell are selling tickets to the freak show. "
26 posted on 05/03/2008 1:32:35 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (I reserve the right to misinterpret the comments of any and all posters)
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To: Kieri

“As to the noise output of the Earth, if aliens are stupid enough to come here they deserve what happens to them.”

And that’s why they don’t stay long.


27 posted on 05/03/2008 1:33:26 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (I reserve the right to misinterpret the comments of any and all posters)
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To: ASA Vet

“Just the kind of “moron” that would be forced off FR. “

Reminds me, Where is Radio Astronomer these days?


28 posted on 05/03/2008 1:36:00 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (I reserve the right to misinterpret the comments of any and all posters)
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To: blam

I bet they can’t wait for the final episode of ER!


29 posted on 05/03/2008 1:36:13 PM PDT by Soliton
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To: blam

Global Warming has already done so. The terraforming is already under way. It’s too late.


30 posted on 05/03/2008 1:36:47 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham ("The land of the Free...Because of the Brave")
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To: OSHA

“And Slim Whitman albums.”

I prefer Boxcar Willie.


31 posted on 05/03/2008 1:37:31 PM PDT by mothball
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To: Psycho_Bunny
The guy’s a moron. What are the chances that a civilization lasting long enough to develop faster-than-light interstellar travel would still be violent enough to want to conquer another planet?

It's not about the numbers, Intergalactic Delegates will decide if they could get here or not.

32 posted on 05/03/2008 1:38:22 PM PDT by Soliton
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To: Sherman Logan
Apples and oranges: Those societies are internally cohesive and outwardly aggressive for only a few score years at best. Then they are thrust into inevitable bursts of internal violence.

The more technologically advanced - the more likely those civil wars will wipe out most or all of the population.

It is more probable that a civilizations advance into technology is inverse to its tendency to be aggressive.

33 posted on 05/03/2008 1:39:07 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny
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To: UCANSEE2; Dr.Zoidberg
"Either that or they will sell are selling tickets to the freak show.

It's on network TV!

34 posted on 05/03/2008 1:40:48 PM PDT by uglybiker (I do not suffer from mental illness. I quite enjoy it, actually.)
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To: G Larry
Yup.

However, I think it is at least as likely that aliens would be the equivalent of Predator as the equivalent of ET or Ghandi. Or they might have alien motivations for wiping us out that we might never be able to understand.

35 posted on 05/03/2008 1:41:00 PM PDT by Sherman Logan (Those who deny freedom to others deserve it not for themselves. - A. Lincoln)
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To: BenLurkin

That movie just proves one thing, for sure.

Those dang aliens drive worse than 80 year old chinese women.


36 posted on 05/03/2008 1:41:13 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (I reserve the right to misinterpret the comments of any and all posters)
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To: ASA Vet

Oh, puleeze.


37 posted on 05/03/2008 1:42:11 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny
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To: Soliton

Here’s the obligatory “WE’RE All GONNA DIE” Post.


38 posted on 05/03/2008 1:43:31 PM PDT by JimC214
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To: ASA Vet

you are saying people on FR force off those that have PhD in specific subjects?


39 posted on 05/03/2008 1:46:12 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* 'I love you guys')
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To: blam

40 posted on 05/03/2008 1:47:37 PM PDT by Bobalu (What do I know, I'm a Typical White Guy)
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To: Man50D

Hopefully it's not: "Be vewy, vewy qwiet -- we'w hunting earfwings..."

41 posted on 05/03/2008 1:48:27 PM PDT by mikrofon
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To: blam
Let's hope that the evil bug-eyed aliens coming here from 80 light years away are just big fans of the Jack Benny radio show and want some delicious Grape Nuts Flakes® and JELL-O® in strawberry, raspberry, orange, lemon, and lime.


42 posted on 05/03/2008 1:48:41 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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To: uglybiker

Great!

btw, do ya know the episode/title of that one?
I want to look it up and watch it again.


43 posted on 05/03/2008 1:49:03 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (I reserve the right to misinterpret the comments of any and all posters)
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To: Psycho_Bunny
Well, they could be multilegged large mouthed intelligent beings whose favorite delicacy is bipeds, soft on the outside and crunchy on the inside.
44 posted on 05/03/2008 1:49:11 PM PDT by going hot (Happiness is a momma deuce)
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To: blam

What happens if they find V?Y?GER?


45 posted on 05/03/2008 1:50:15 PM PDT by microgood
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To: UCANSEE2

He’s still posting, (but not here,) and educating those who wish to discuss and learn science stuff.


46 posted on 05/03/2008 1:52:32 PM PDT by ASA Vet (Do we really want Huma answering the White House phone at 3 AM?)
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To: UCANSEE2
The title was: Cancelled.

Forget which season.

47 posted on 05/03/2008 1:54:02 PM PDT by uglybiker (I do not suffer from mental illness. I quite enjoy it, actually.)
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To: Psycho_Bunny
It is more probable that a civilizations advance into technology is inverse to its tendency to be aggressive.

Your odds are based solely on the physiological ruminations of a human brain on planet Earth. There is no way to lay odds on an alien view of "morality" and "ethics".

48 posted on 05/03/2008 1:55:45 PM PDT by JoJo Gunn (Help control the McCainiac population. Have them spayed or neutered.)
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To: Steve Van Doorn

“you are saying people on FR force off those that have PhD in specific subjects?”

Sorry to butt in, but I think it’s limited to forcing off posters who really are smarter than everyone else. The subject isn’t that important. Neither is the PhD, or any other scrolls (diplomas).


49 posted on 05/03/2008 1:55:46 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (I reserve the right to misinterpret the comments of any and all posters)
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To: blam
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50 posted on 05/03/2008 1:56:51 PM PDT by skimask (Never argue with an idiot, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience)
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