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McCain says he would veto farm bill
http://www.upi.com ^ | 5-2-08 | UPI

Posted on 05/03/2008 11:35:23 AM PDT by NoLibZone

McCain says he would veto farm bill Published: May 2, 2008 at 9:11 PM

DES MOINES, Iowa, May 2 (UPI) -- Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., told an audience of Iowans that if he were president, he would veto a farm subsidy bill now making its way through Congress.

"I do not support it. I would veto it," McCain told the audience of about 250 people in Des Moines Thursday. "I would do that because I believe that these subsidies, the subsidies are unnecessary."

The Republican Party's presumptive presidential nominee later told The Des Moines Register in an interview, "At this time, to have an increase in agricultural subsidies when farmers are having higher incomes than at any time in memory, I just think it's legislation that's not in keeping with the economic hard times of America where people are losing their homes and their jobs."

McCain said, however, he hoped voters in farm states such as Iowa would appreciate his plan to expand markets for U.S. agricultural products abroad, The Register reported Friday.

"I will open up every market in the world to the most efficient, productive sector of America's economy, and that's our farm and agricultural worker," he said.


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Iowa
KEYWORDS: 110th; agriculture; farmbill; foodprices; ia2008; mccain; notill; setaside; socialisim

1 posted on 05/03/2008 11:35:23 AM PDT by NoLibZone
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To: NoLibZone

WOW!

Even Reagan would not take a stand on this, one of the four pillars of FDR socialism!

McCain, I shall now vote for you.


2 posted on 05/03/2008 11:36:59 AM PDT by NoLibZone (Is the purpose of the 2nd amendment to brag at gun shows and chat rooms?)
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To: NoLibZone

Wow is right! I’m shocked.


3 posted on 05/03/2008 11:38:13 AM PDT by Fawn (Judge Judy Rules.)
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To: NoLibZone

Whoops, look like McCain is going after the Farm welfare. (at least from what I saw of this article)

Wish I knew the whole story.


4 posted on 05/03/2008 11:39:29 AM PDT by MCCRon58 (Freedom does not mean you are free from the consequences of your own freely made decisions.)
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To: NoLibZone
"I do not support it. I would veto it," McCain told the audience of about 250 people in Des Moines Thursday. "I would do that because I believe that these subsidies, the subsidies are unnecessary."

Conviction over votes via pandering?

Impressive for a politician.

5 posted on 05/03/2008 11:39:51 AM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: NoLibZone

Plus the freaking farm bill is still loaded up for food stamps.


6 posted on 05/03/2008 11:40:49 AM PDT by stylin19a
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To: NoLibZone

With all the problems in America today why is McCain trying to alienate farmers. Farm subsidies are not a big expense as a part of the total budget and not a big problem. Over the lasr 60 years of farm subsidies America has had cheap and abundant food supplies. If it ain’t broke don’t fix it.


7 posted on 05/03/2008 11:44:01 AM PDT by detective
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To: NoLibZone

I will withhold comment until after the vote. Republicans have voted for this annually since the beginning - paying the richest farmers not to farm and hold prices up.


8 posted on 05/03/2008 11:47:07 AM PDT by edcoil
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To: detective

Wrong. The subsidies for ETHANOL are outrageous and are driving food prices up...as a result


9 posted on 05/03/2008 11:47:48 AM PDT by JaneNC (I)
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To: NoLibZone

Well...good on him. That’s a bright spot in the otherwise cookie cutter world of the current Presidential race.


10 posted on 05/03/2008 11:50:57 AM PDT by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion)
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To: detective
Farm subsidies are not a big expense as a part of the total budget and not a big problem.

There are other reasons to oppose it besides the cost. The massive dislocations that ethanol subsidies are creating in the energy and food markets, to name one. We'd be better off just giving them money with no strings attached.

11 posted on 05/03/2008 11:57:11 AM PDT by lesser_satan (Vote McCain - The Choice who Sucks Less!)
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To: detective
Farm subsidies are not a big expense as a part of the total budget and not a big problem.

Farm subidies are a pretty big budget item and a lot bigger than stuff that people stupidly get their undies in a bunch over, like Congressional Salaries and Foreign Aid.

Over the lasr 60 years of farm subsidies America has had cheap and abundant food supplies.

Which has diddly squat to do with the subsidies. There are plenty of unsubsidized industries producing cheap and abundant supplies of whatever they produce.

12 posted on 05/03/2008 12:02:10 PM PDT by Strategerist
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To: JaneNC
I don't believe it's the ethanol subsidies he's talking about vetoing. From what I understand, farmers are still getting the age-old subsidies -- for growing certain crops/not growing crops/whatever -- in addition to the ethanol subsidies, and those traditional subsidies is what he would veto.

I don't think McCain wants to talk about ethanol subsidies, for fear of offending environmentalists.

13 posted on 05/03/2008 12:09:32 PM PDT by browardchad ("We are all mavericks now." -- Rush Limbaugh)
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To: Strategerist

“There are plenty of unsubsidized industries producing cheap and abundant supplies of whatever they produce.”

My point was that farm subsidies are not necessarily beneficial but there are far bigger problems for McCain to deal with. During the time farm subsidies have been in place we have enjoyed cheap and abundant food supplies and for the most part a stable agricultural economy. So why is there such an urgent need to change things?


14 posted on 05/03/2008 12:23:05 PM PDT by detective
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To: JaneNC

The article didn’t mention ethanol. I’m not sure that it was about ethanol.


15 posted on 05/03/2008 12:25:56 PM PDT by detective
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To: lesser_satan

The article didn’t mention ethanol. I’m not sure it was about ethanol.


16 posted on 05/03/2008 12:27:51 PM PDT by detective
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To: NoLibZone

I like it!


17 posted on 05/03/2008 12:32:56 PM PDT by 1035rep
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To: NoLibZone

McCain is not too bright, has no coherent set of principles, is wrong more often than right, and has some truly destructive positions that make me worry for the future and direction of my beloved country under his Presidency.

But he does have major nads, I’ll give him that. And I do support him on this position.


18 posted on 05/03/2008 1:01:13 PM PDT by Maceman (If you're not getting a tax cut, you're getting a pay cut.)
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To: detective
America has had cheap and abundant food supplies throughout its history, not just in the last 60 years. Also, two-thirds of our food production is unsubsidized, and unsubsidized crops have also been cheap and abundant in the last 60 years. Our country's agricultural production ain't broke with or without subsidies.

Farm subsidies were meant to be nothing more than a temporary measure to deal with a crisis in farm income during the Depression, when there were a lot more farmers than there are today and many of them were facing a serious financial crisis due to falling income and rapid depreciation. Today, farm subsidies serve no purpose; like most government programs, they're a solution in search of a problem.

They're a waste of resources and are, by and large, just a form of corporate welfare. It's well past time to get rid of them.
19 posted on 05/03/2008 1:02:14 PM PDT by The Pack Knight (Duty, Honor, Country.)
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To: NoLibZone

BUMP!


20 posted on 05/03/2008 1:17:14 PM PDT by Norman Bates (Freepmail me to be part of the McCain List!)
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To: JaneNC
"Wrong. The subsidies for ETHANOL are outrageous and are driving food prices up...as a result"


You are absolutely right! Furthermore, EVERY group looking for a taxpayer funded hand out finds a way to rationalize THEIR hand out. It is about time we started saying no across the board.
21 posted on 05/03/2008 4:01:06 PM PDT by rob777 (Personal Responsibility is the Price of Freedom)
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To: browardchad

It is my understanding that he has always been against ethanol subsidies which is why he did not do well in the Iowa caucus.


22 posted on 05/03/2008 7:04:05 PM PDT by srmorton (Choose life!)
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To: NoLibZone

While McCain is right on this issue, it won’t get him many votes in my neck of the woods. Lots os “Conservative” voters around here who will forsake their values for farm subsidies.


23 posted on 05/03/2008 8:54:50 PM PDT by TheBattman (LORD God, please give us a Christian Patriot with a backbone for President in 08, Amen.)
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To: TheBattman
"Lots os “Conservative” voters around here who will forsake their values for farm subsidies." Iowans have feigned being Republicans for over 70 years.
24 posted on 05/04/2008 12:45:31 AM PDT by NoLibZone (Is the purpose of the 2nd amendment to brag at gun shows and chat rooms?)
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To: NoLibZone

I own a chain of car washes. It rained all winter. I lost 40% of my gross revenue.

I want subsidies too.

Where are Cougar and Willie for me?

Car washes are American as apple pie and tractors


25 posted on 05/04/2008 1:02:24 AM PDT by wardaddy (Wright offers church for blacks who can't quite stomach Islam)
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To: NoLibZone

Around here, it has been folks who have been “Democrats” all their lives - because their daddy, grand-daddy, and so on were Democrat.

Of course, when discussing issue they are 99.95% Conservative. They are often active church members in good, solid, conservative New Testament churches.

But when election season comes around, and the word is spread that the mean ol’ Republicans aim to destroy farming by eliminating farm subsidies and the wonderful and caring Democrats are going to give out even more in subsidies, they easily close their eyes and file away their conscience in the name of a government check.

That is how we got the super-liberal Blanche Lincoln here in Arkansas. She votes for every farm subsidy she can. Of course, the fact that she owns a great big farm in Eastern Arkansas and directly benefits from every vote she casts for farm programs... Nahh... no conflict of interest.


26 posted on 05/04/2008 6:41:28 AM PDT by TheBattman (LORD God, please give us a Christian Patriot with a backbone for President in 08, Amen.)
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