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Tesla electric sports car ready to hum onto highways
Associated Press ^ | 5-2-08 | JOHN ROGERS

Posted on 05/02/2008 8:58:21 PM PDT by kingattax

LOS ANGELES — It's safe to say Jeremy Snyder gets a charge out of the two-seat Tesla Roadster whenever he pulls one off the lot — and not because it's equipped with an all-electric engine.

As he pulled one of the sleek new automobiles down a side street Thursday and put the pedal to the metal, its lithium-ion battery-powered engine didn't give off sparks. It just emitted a powerful hum, something like a much quieter version of a jet taking off.

"Accelerate pretty good?" asked Snyder, head of client services for Tesla, who knew the answer.

"I call it a turbine sound," he said of the sound. "Because it's an electric motor it's got 100 percent torque all the time. So it just pulls you like when you're taking off in an airplane."

After several years of development, the Roadster — with sleek lines like a Ferrari or Porsche and a sticker price of $109,000 — officially moves from the drawing boards to the market next week when Tesla's first store opens. It's near the University of California, Los Angeles, in the city's toney Westwood neighborhood where Beverly Hills, Brentwood and Hollywood practically intersect.

"Because it's Hollywood and glamorous, this is the flagship store," Snyder said.

The next store is to open in a couple of months near Tesla's headquarters in the Silicon Valley city of San Carlos, where the car was developed with venture capital of more than $40 million from such investors as Google Inc. founders Larry Page and Sergey Brin. More stores are planned for Chicago, New York and other cities by early next year.

Although a fully loaded model can set a buyer back as much as $124,000, that's still cheap compared with a high-end Ferrari. And its 6,831-cell lithium-ion battery pack gives off no emissions.

The car goes from 0 to 60 mph in just under four seconds and tops out at 125 mph. It goes 225 miles on one charge and can be fully recharged in 3.5 hours, which Tesla officials say should allow most people to drive it to work and back and recharge it at night like a cell phone.

Driving from Los Angeles to San Francisco, however, would require stopping in, say, Fresno and plugging its adapter cord into a motel room wall socket.

Some critics have expressed concerns about the durability and safety of the lithium-ion battery pack, which weighs about 1,000 pounds, more than a third of the entire weight of the 2,700-pound Roadster, whose body is made up of carbon fiber materials. Tesla officials respond that the car has passed all required safety tests. They say the battery should last for about 100,000 miles of driving.

The company, formed in 2003, is named for inventor Nikola Tesla, an early pioneer in the field of electricity. The people buying its cars so far, said national sales manager Doreen Allen, are celebrities, early adopters, wealthy people and environmentalists.

Tesla officials say Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, actors George Clooney and Kelsey Grammer and musicians Will.i.am and Flea have each ordered a Roadster.

It will be awhile before anyone can walk in and drive a Tesla home off a lot, however.

"Delivery is running about 15 months," Allen said, adding the company was surprised by the demand.

Tesla began taking orders last year for the 600 Roadsters it planned to produce in 2008 and had sold all of them by October, Allen said. The first ones began rolling off the production line six weeks ago, and Allen said all of the 2008 models should be delivered to their owners by March of next year. The first ones should begin going out the door later this month.

Meanwhile, orders are being taken for 2009 models, with plans calling for production of about 1,500 cars.

Eventually Tesla also plans to produce cheaper, family vehicles.

"There's a model in the works right now, a five-passenger sedan that will be styled comparable to the roadster but a lot roomier to accommodate families, and that is slated for 2010," Snyder said.

The Tesla Roadster, the world's first highway-capable all-electric car available in the United States, is displayed on its production debut in the Tesla Flagship Store on May 1, 2008, in Los Angeles. Vince Bucci: Getty Images


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nice lookin ride
1 posted on 05/02/2008 8:58:22 PM PDT by kingattax
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To: kingattax

I want one!!
Smoke just about any car at a red light and never have to go to a gas station.


2 posted on 05/02/2008 9:03:46 PM PDT by mowowie
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To: kingattax

3 posted on 05/02/2008 9:05:54 PM PDT by Bobalu (What do I know, I'm a Typical White Guy)
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To: kingattax

Yankee Ingenuity.


4 posted on 05/02/2008 9:06:05 PM PDT by Spruce
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To: kingattax

I drove one of these in PGR4. :)


5 posted on 05/02/2008 9:06:13 PM PDT by Doohickey (I'd rather be free than have the government keep me "safe".)
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To: kingattax

You know...the blind are allready having problems with silent cars...there will be blood before they have to put artificial noise in these cars...


6 posted on 05/02/2008 9:08:15 PM PDT by Crim (Dont frak with the Zeitgeist....)
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To: kingattax

100,000 miles is not very long, although I suppose in the ten years it will take you to hit that it wont take thirty thousand dollars to replace the battery packs.

It is also interesting to not that a few years ago they were being sold for 92,000 on preorders.


7 posted on 05/02/2008 9:10:25 PM PDT by aft_lizard (born conservative...I chose to be a republican)
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To: kingattax

Like a typical journalist, the reporter neglects my first question: How many kilowatt-hours does it suck up in those 3.5 hours?


8 posted on 05/02/2008 9:10:39 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: kingattax

I’m not exactly sure how it works but don’t we need fuel for electricity? This is great if we can be more energy dependent but I was just wondering if we will still need foreign oil.


9 posted on 05/02/2008 9:13:18 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: kingattax

I’m not exactly sure how it works but don’t we need fuel for electricity? This is great if we can be more energy dependent but I was just wondering if we will still need foreign oil.


10 posted on 05/02/2008 9:13:18 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: aft_lizard

The price will go way down. Not to be negative.. but how much will it cost to charge?


11 posted on 05/02/2008 9:15:08 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: kingattax
I prefer this color red!


12 posted on 05/02/2008 9:18:26 PM PDT by MadelineZapeezda ( MUST SEE: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkgHkxIfgBc)
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To: Spruce
do people realize where electricity comes from?....nuclear power, gas or coal fired plants... sometimes wind power and sometimes water power....but it has to be produced...it has to come from something ..

electric cars are no panacea.

13 posted on 05/02/2008 9:18:42 PM PDT by cherry
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To: kingattax
The company, formed in 2003, is named for inventor Nikola Tesla, an early pioneer in the field of electricity.

Tesla was a lot more than a simple inventor/pioneer.

14 posted on 05/02/2008 9:19:03 PM PDT by DTogo (I haven't left the GOP, the GOP left me.)
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To: DTogo

You can say that again!


15 posted on 05/02/2008 9:22:58 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: Spruce
Yankee Ingenuity.

On a British chassis. It's based on the ultra-light Lotus Elise aluminum chassis. Keep the weight down, your batteries last a lot longer.

16 posted on 05/02/2008 9:24:17 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: cherry

Ah...I though so. Well if they could add some hidden wind blades...we could recharge on the highways.


17 posted on 05/02/2008 9:25:38 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: CindyDawg

Will battery acid spill on me if I crash and end up upside down?


18 posted on 05/02/2008 9:26:58 PM PDT by umgud
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To: mowowie

For me, design is everything. Usually they design these things and make the look like a Prius.


19 posted on 05/02/2008 9:29:19 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (Buy a Mac ...)
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To: umgud

You have battery acid in your car already. I think that would be the least of your worries.


20 posted on 05/02/2008 9:29:59 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: mowowie

“I want one!!”

And when you’re driving thru Butte, Montana and forward motion stops due to mechanical issues, you will....


21 posted on 05/02/2008 9:30:14 PM PDT by Rembrandt (We would have won Viet Nam w/o Dim interference.)
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To: CindyDawg

Central energy generation is a lot more efficient than energy generated in your car. And when you plug in your socket, it’s highly like the raw material for that energy came from inside the U.S.A.


22 posted on 05/02/2008 9:30:36 PM PDT by Our man in washington
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To: DTogo

If they really wanted to be true to the Tesla name, they’d have the car powered by the magnetic field coming off the roadside power lines.


23 posted on 05/02/2008 9:31:40 PM PDT by wolfpat (If you don't like the Patriot Act, you're really gonna hate Sharia Law.)
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To: kingattax

Tesla may begin delivering Roadsters with temporary transmissions[will fail in a few thousand miles]
Monday December 24, 08:01:39 GMT-0800 2007 · by grundle · 25 replies · 6+ views
autoblog.com ^ | Dec 13th 2007 | John Neff
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1943844/posts


24 posted on 05/02/2008 9:32:20 PM PDT by Libertarianize the GOP (Make all taxes truly voluntary)
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To: Arthur McGowan; Rca2000
Like a typical journalist, the reporter neglects my first question: How many kilowatt-hours does it suck up in those 3.5 hours?

Well, I remember they asked this question back in the 1970s in an old "Elementary Electronics" magazine where the answer would have been that you would need a large gauge wires to handle all the electricity needed to recharge such a car in short a time. Of course, the higher the voltage, the lower the amps you needs, so maybe, just MAYBE, you can do it on a 220/240 VAC outlet, we need the specs to be sure. Don't forget, you will not always have to go top speed all the time, so you might need only a small percentage of battery power to get around town if one drives like a normal person. So if you have say a 75 kw hour battery pack and the motor requires 150 kw hour top speed, your range will go down the toilet but if you drive it at street to common highway speeds, you might need only 20 or 30 kw hours and that will last much longer. Don't forget you will need more electric plants if we make these cars and unless we build more atomic power stations, all we are doing is transferring the burden from one place to another for these cars.

Pinging RCA2000, we've talked about electric cars before.
25 posted on 05/02/2008 9:32:21 PM PDT by Nowhere Man (Is Barak HUSSEIN Obama the Anti-Christ? "Barak Ho-Tep!! Barak Ho-Tep!")
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To: CindyDawg
You have battery acid in your car already. I think that would be the least of your worries.

Yeah........ but I've only got one battery. Just a concern. Other than that I'd like to have one of these things.

26 posted on 05/02/2008 9:36:27 PM PDT by umgud
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To: CindyDawg
I’m not exactly sure how it works but don’t we need fuel for electricity?

Cindy, you can get yourself a hand operated generator, it will charge the batteries.

Most people will plug it into a powered outlet and depending on their power resource, it could be nuclear, diesel, jet engine, coal, wind or hydro, etc. that will charge the batteries. So unless you can change the laws of physics, YES, one form of energy or another will be converted to electricity.

27 posted on 05/02/2008 9:38:41 PM PDT by JoeSixPack1
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To: kingattax
Nikola Tesla, an early pioneer in the field of electricity

Nikola Tesla, a pure genius, he invented tomorrow!

28 posted on 05/02/2008 9:42:30 PM PDT by MadelineZapeezda ( MUST SEE: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkgHkxIfgBc)
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To: Rembrandt

Call AAA...


29 posted on 05/02/2008 9:45:03 PM PDT by DB
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To: JoeSixPack1

I have an ER radio with all the lights and whistles that I crank:’) My question was though...would we be decreasing our dependence on foreign oil. Solar, water, wind, etc, I just want to be able to tell these guys to take their high priced oil and go pound sand.


30 posted on 05/02/2008 9:46:12 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: umgud

What do you drive?. I though everyone has at least two batteries on their truck? :’)


31 posted on 05/02/2008 9:48:42 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: kingattax
I like the whole concept, and if I could afford it I would buy one tomorrow. I would like to see the charging time down to about 30 minutes so that cross country trips would be convenient. And a SUV version. Possibly some enterprising company could build rest/charging stops along our nations highways.
32 posted on 05/02/2008 9:49:53 PM PDT by BigCinBigD (")
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To: umgud
Lithium-ion batteries don't have liquid acid like typical car batteries (I believe). It is more like goo...

Lithium burns when exposed to oxygen...

If you crash and short/rupture your battery pack it isn't likely going to be pretty, so to speak...

33 posted on 05/02/2008 9:49:58 PM PDT by DB
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To: Arthur McGowan

It has a 50kWH Battery Pack that recharges from a home charging station from 240V at a 70A.


34 posted on 05/02/2008 9:50:53 PM PDT by Dimples
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To: CindyDawg
What do you drive?. I though everyone has at least two batteries on their truck? :’)

'07 Chevy Silverado 4x4 crew cab.........., but only one battery way up front.

35 posted on 05/02/2008 9:51:46 PM PDT by umgud
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To: DTogo

Man outta time!


36 posted on 05/02/2008 9:52:14 PM PDT by ConservaTexan (February 6, 1911)
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To: kingattax
Have they fixed the transmission?

Tesla’s Chairman and New CEO Talk Transmission Snags and Raising Another $40M

December 21st, 2007

They’ve set a goal of getting the company’s first vehicle -– the Roadster -– to a limited amount of customers in the first quarter of 2008. To meet that deadline they are overcoming a technology snag: the transmission.

Two suppliers failed to make Tesla’s transmission up to snuff, the executives say, and the company is now working with new companies in the hopes of figuring out a fix fast. The first cars they ship will actually have an interim, one-speed transmission, which the company will swap out for a two-speed transmission.

earth2tech.com

37 posted on 05/02/2008 9:52:29 PM PDT by Daaave (Magically delicious!©)
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To: CindyDawg
Well, see, the hollywood libs don't think that far out of their own little reality. You just plug it in and it has no emissions. The fact that you must burn coal or gas or use nuclear to produce the electricity doesn't enter the picture.

There is no free lunch.

38 posted on 05/02/2008 9:53:00 PM PDT by Eagles6 ( Typical White Guy: Christian, Constitutionalist, Heterosexual, Redneck)
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To: DB

Yup......... my luck would be to have the batts blow up on me.


39 posted on 05/02/2008 9:53:11 PM PDT by umgud
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To: JoeSixPack1; CindyDawg
A back of the hand calculation indicates that the 225 mile trip over 3.5 hours with a couple 150 lb passengers will eat up about 395 kw-hr. I don't expect anyone is going to hand you that electricity for free. There will be metered outlets where you can connect and pay the cost of the electricity. That electricity is going to be priced according to what the local utility charges per kw-hr plus a service fee for allowing you to occupy and use the charging equipment.
40 posted on 05/02/2008 9:58:13 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: CindyDawg

The honest answer, Cindy, Who knows?

The Hummer was determined to be more efficient and had less of an environmental impact then the Toyota Prius. So day to day cost and use or conversion of energy to the proper power format for this thing in the article above is not nearly the whole picture as it was with the Prius.

But will it cut dependence on foreign oil? At the pump, Yes.


41 posted on 05/02/2008 9:58:32 PM PDT by JoeSixPack1
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To: umgud
Will battery acid spill on me if I crash and end up upside down?

No. The battery pack is made of cells that look like large AA batteries. There is no "battery acid." The electrolyte in the battery is not a liquid ... it's more like a paste ... and the cells (all 6831 of them) are individually sealed in steel containers which are in turn enclosed inside the battery box which is enveloped by the frame and body. Upside down, sideways, right side up or tipped on a corner, there's nothing to leak out of the cells ... even in a crash.

42 posted on 05/02/2008 9:58:38 PM PDT by Dimples
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To: kingattax
Amazing...



Here's Jay Leno's 1907 Baker electric.
43 posted on 05/02/2008 10:02:42 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life)
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To: CindyDawg
I’m not exactly sure how it works but don’t we need fuel for electricity?

As the Democrat governors are prohibiting nuclear and coal electric stations, each buyer will be given a windmill to place on top of the vehicle to recharge it.

44 posted on 05/02/2008 10:04:03 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Ted Kennedy - Codename -> "Bobber")
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To: MadelineZapeezda

Tesla rocked. I want to see his notes.
I want to drive his gravity powered car!
(and no, that doesn’t mean it was great at going down-hill.)


45 posted on 05/02/2008 10:05:50 PM PDT by getitright
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To: Dimples
It has a 50kWH Battery Pack that recharges from a home charging station from 240V at a 70A.

50 kw-H X 10 cents/kw-H = $5.00 on your power bill. I don't believe the 225 mile claimed range if that's the actual size of the battery. A paid up AAA membership and a cell phone will be most wanted accessories.

46 posted on 05/02/2008 10:06:28 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Nowhere Man
It appears that it takes 70 amps at probably 240 volts to charge it in 3.5 hours. Or about 59 kWh of electricity. So if you electricity cost 20 cents a kWh the total cost to fully recharge it would be $11.80 or about 5.4 cents a mile. Cost of electricity varies widely. In some places it is closer to 10 cents a kWh. Where I'm at I regularly pay about 37 cents a kWh.
47 posted on 05/02/2008 10:08:54 PM PDT by DB
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To: Myrddin
A back of the hand calculation indicates that the 225 mile trip over 3.5 hours with a couple 150 lb passengers will eat up about 395 kw-hr.

... Hmmm ... I don't follow your math ... you seem to be high by a factor of 8.

The car has a EPA range of about 225 miles ... yes, your mileage will depend on how you drive ... but a 225 mile trip that consumes the entire 50kWH energy store consumes 222WH/mi. If it takes you 3.5 hours to make the trip (64 mph), then you consume a little over 14kW/hr. Remember that you are not accelerating the full mass at full throttle ... you're freeway cruising with enough throttle to overcome air and rolling resistance.

48 posted on 05/02/2008 10:16:52 PM PDT by Dimples
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To: kingattax

This is going to end up being a disaster for anybody who buys one. I just know it.


49 posted on 05/02/2008 10:19:05 PM PDT by gunservative
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To: Myrddin
Believe what you want, the battery pack is indeed 50kWH. And the range is over 200 miles ... EPA certified. And, yes, if you actually pay 10 cents per kWh for electricity, then you'll "fillup" for about 5 bucks. (In CA we pay more like 35 cents)

And yes, if you're foolish enough to run out of juice far from a charging station, you'll get stuck.

50 posted on 05/02/2008 10:22:26 PM PDT by Dimples
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