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Tipster ends fugitive's respectable double life(for 30+ years!)
CNN ^ | 5/01/08

Posted on 05/02/2008 9:46:50 AM PDT by Santa Fe_Conservative

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To: SF Republican
do you feel justice will be served for a drug conviction 30 years ago by this 53 year old serving the next 20 years (pretty much a life sentence) in a maximum security prison?

Justice certainly isn't served by rewarding an escapee with freedom because she was so good at evading justice for so long.

The just thing to do is to put her in a facility where her chances of escape are drastically minimized so she can serve out the rest of her sentence.

If the parole board sees fit to extend clemency at her first review that's up to them. If she files a successful appeal of her original sentencing hearing, so be it.

But she cannot just walk away. It would be a mockery of the rule of law.

81 posted on 05/02/2008 10:57:24 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: heartwood
Social Security fraud sounds like drawing funds fraudulently

What do you think she would be doing with that SSN when she turned 65?

82 posted on 05/02/2008 10:59:16 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: wideawake

That’s pretty harsh. She was stupid, she made some stupid mistakes but you have no idea whether she learned anything or not, you do not see her heart.


83 posted on 05/02/2008 10:59:20 AM PDT by tiki (True Christians will not deliberately slander or misrepresent others or their beliefs)
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To: wideawake

Yea, she’s lead a life for 30+ years without getting in trouble... she’s learned no life lessons at all. Be serious.


84 posted on 05/02/2008 10:59:23 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: wideawake

That I would agree with.


85 posted on 05/02/2008 10:59:48 AM PDT by SF Republican
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To: wideawake

What do you think she would be doing with that SSN when she turned 65?
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If the original possessor of the number died when she in her teens or younger, this lady won’t be drawing out much of anything that she didn’t put in herself so I don’t really care what name or number she used.


86 posted on 05/02/2008 11:02:13 AM PDT by heartwood
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To: wideawake

What do you think she would be doing with that SSN when she turned 65?
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If the original possessor of the number died when she in her teens or younger, this lady won’t be drawing out much of anything that she didn’t put in herself so I don’t really care what name or number she used.


87 posted on 05/02/2008 11:02:14 AM PDT by heartwood
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To: heartwood

Beyond the whole Ponzi scheme that SS is in the first place, but that’s not the point here.


88 posted on 05/02/2008 11:04:06 AM PDT by heartwood
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To: tiki
you have no idea whether she learned anything or not, you do not see her heart

Her heart is on her sleeve.

In the article we see that (1) she blames her crimes on being depressed over the death of an alleged boyfriend and (2) she blames her sentencing on her parents for giving her bad advice and (3) she claims that the Social Security number she was using was just a number she made up - which is a blatant impossibility.

She is telling lies and blaming others for the consequences of her bad decisions.

89 posted on 05/02/2008 11:05:07 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: wideawake
But she cannot just walk away. It would be a mockery of the rule of law.

I would agree with you also.

90 posted on 05/02/2008 11:05:37 AM PDT by YankeeGirl
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To: HamiltonJay

See post 89.


91 posted on 05/02/2008 11:06:20 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: ken5050
And who do you think will play her in her Lifetime movie story...wanna bet she makes several million in a book and movie deal?

How long before she's on Oprah's show?

92 posted on 05/02/2008 11:07:17 AM PDT by Constitutionalist Conservative (Global Warming Heretic -- http://agw-heretic.blogspot.com)
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To: heartwood
I don’t really care what name or number she used

The law is not so nonchalant in such matters.

Also, no one gets what they paid in.

Everyone who lives a natural lifespan collects far more than they paid in, at the expense of the taxpayers.

This escaped criminal would have gladly put her hands in all of our pockets. I am also going to guess that between 1974 and 1981 she didn't pay any taxes into the system.

I've never even been arrested, but I guarantee that the SSA will not give me credit for a free decade.

93 posted on 05/02/2008 11:11:42 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: YankeeGirl

You also can’t put today’s education and mores on that time. The drug revolution had started, lots of “good kids” were being influenced by drugs. Even a lot of medical authorities didn’t think cocaine was addictive.

When they caught these kids they threw the book at them to make an example.

In our town, the “drug cartel” was composed of local businessmen. Three of them took off when the heat finally came down on them and the real bigwig actually paid a young guy who was involved to cop to the whole thing. He went to prison and got a college education. The bigwig died filthy rich and now his extremely religious son is a multi-millionare.

I’m no liberal but I would like to know what good it would have done to society, her victims, or her family for her to have been locked up for 20 yrs? As you said, it was her first offense and I feel the sentence was more than harsh.


94 posted on 05/02/2008 11:14:47 AM PDT by tiki (True Christians will not deliberately slander or misrepresent others or their beliefs)
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To: wideawake

Okay so let’s chuck her back in prison for twenty years plus another ten for escaping and ten for SS fraud. Save the taxpayers a bundle.


95 posted on 05/02/2008 11:15:51 AM PDT by heartwood
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative

I hope she gets a book and movie deal.

Look at all the hard core criminals who rape, murder, get deported and come right back to walk the streets here - AND commit crimes again. Like it’s good use of tax dollars to put this woman back in prison for 20 years? Hardly.


96 posted on 05/02/2008 11:16:03 AM PDT by ladyjane
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To: heartwood
Okay so let’s chuck her back in prison for twenty years plus another ten for escaping and ten for SS fraud. Save the taxpayers a bundle.

Either way, the taxpayers were bound to lose.

Better my money goes to the administration of justice than the abetting of fraud.

97 posted on 05/02/2008 11:18:10 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: ladyjane
I hope she gets a book and movie deal. Look at all the hard core criminals who rape, murder, get deported and come right back to walk the streets here - AND commit crimes again. Like it’s good use of tax dollars to put this woman back in prison for 20 years? Hardly.

The reason why our prisons have become revolving doors of late is precisely because of the attitude you are now embracing: namely that we should show lenience to people who commit crimes - and even give them book and movie deals - if they tell a good enough sob story.

And as far as "hard core criminals" are concerned, I would argue that selling hard drugs on the streets of Detroit is a pretty hard core activity.

I am also guessing that you would not be advocating such leniency for a 19 year old black man arrested today on the streets of Detroit for selling heroin to an undercover cop. Especially not if he breaks out of prison.

98 posted on 05/02/2008 11:23:59 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: engrpat
hat occurred was years ago and as her life has been above reproach nothing to be served by sending her to jail.

I think a pretty hefty fine is in order here. Not so much the jail time.

99 posted on 05/02/2008 11:24:16 AM PDT by Ouderkirk (Hillary = Senator Incitatus, Clintigula's whore...er, horse.)
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To: wideawake

I have to admit that I started off thinking maybe a little mercy was in order here, given that we really don’t know all the facts of the arrest, etc. But, now that I’ve been exposed to the wisdom displayed be a few here that obviously have a much greater handle on this justice thingy, I must confess my naivete’ and admit I was wrong. Yes, she should be sent back to serve 20 years plus some more time for escaping. We need to think of some appropriate punishment for her husband and children, too. I’m sure they are just as evil as she is. I think this also needs much more publicity if they are all to be sufficiently embarrassed and humiliated. There, now I feel so much holier than thou.


100 posted on 05/02/2008 11:28:20 AM PDT by Perfesser
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